دکتر شهرام خلدی، پژوهشگر تاریخ خاورمیانه و روابط بینالملل، در گفتوگو با شهرزاد قانعی در برنامه «نگاه سوم»، احتمال حمله آمریکا به سایت هستهای «کوه کلنگ گزلا» را بررسی میکند و توضیح میدهد که آیا ممکن است در چنین حملهای از موشک اتمی استفاده شود یا خیر.
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This interview with Dr. Shahram Khouli analyzes Iran's nuclear ambitions, focusing on the secretive Koh-e Kulang site and the immense technical challenges of neutralizing deep underground facilities. It explores the geopolitical risks associated with U.S. elections, the role of regional proxies, and the potential environmental catastrophes resulting from military strikes on nuclear infrastructure.
Greetings to you, Dr. Shahram Khooli, and greetings to the esteemed listeners of APAC Times Persian. I am Mahsasad Qanahi, and we are back with another conversation. Welcome once again, Mr. Khooli.
Greetings from my heart to the people of Iran, the beloved ones, and the viewers of Apak Times Persian.
Thank you. The International Atomic Energy Agency has confirmed activities at the Kuh Kolang site, and yesterday, Trump and his administration confirmed that they would not rule out an attack on this site if activities continue.
How likely do you think it is that this attack will occur before the U.S. mid-term elections, and if it does occur, in what form would it take?
Yes, I do believe, Your Excellency, that we may have seemed rather strange in this regard, particularly because of the likelihood of a Republican attack, and indeed, it is astonishing that missiles equipped with warheads from Fuchs launchers have also targeted Ardán.
It clearly shows that the Islamic Republic is actually using the very things it claims to oppose.
It appears that they have failed to achieve their goal by merely hitting the door and wall, and are now forced to resort to using their more advanced missiles, which they currently possess through the Taabani and Ebtikhi engineers.
Right next to that thing used in the Kolang stone mine, there are very fast Bitcoin mining components; these are sites they have in Varamin, Marivan, and Torkozabad, these places.
And in the comprehensive report issued by the IAEA at the end of May 2025, which led to the IAEA resolution in which Israel carried out a thousand military operations against Islamic groups.
In that comprehensive report, it was mentioned that a number of uranium ores had been discovered in Marivan, Varamin, Torkozabad, and similar places.
And they even raised the possibility that there might be centrifuges at that site, capable of processing ten kilograms of enriched uranium.
If we look at that report, the Islamic group was in default of its own commitments.
And there was no shortage of military supplies for this Islamic group and the foreigners.
Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the group was Islamic, and it wasn't an NP.
These flaws were sufficient to trigger Snapchat or our mass activation mechanism, which activated in a city that came after.
But what was strange to me was that despite all this information being provided
As for the Israelis, they have conducted various assessments carried out by different organizations, such as the aforementioned Strategic and Scientific Studies Organization.
Yet, there was nothing—neither in the official transitions nor in the elevated positions of the chief administrator of the Agency—related to Brockaling.
It was for Natanz, it was for Verdo, it was for Isfahan, it was for this, that it might have been bombed.
These have also been examined, but it is not possible to clearly determine where the uranium materials and the placed items are located.
After Araxi, he told him that they had already taken them out earlier.
After they said those things, they got stuck in the tunnels in the Asfahan area.
After studying the heated oxides, it did not show that they were raising their own temperature.
Now with our heavy machinery like Komatsu, Caterpillar, and others.
These missile specifications and technical details have helped Chinese companies build them.
Even Chinese workers and Chinese engineers were brought in, and then many parts became such that even the Chinese themselves didn't like them.
To the northern furnaces, passing through, since the northern furnaces also have a certain significance in these tunneling endeavors.
And for years now, this formula has been steadily rising, and Hozbala has also been moving toward the same region, Ali Taher.
It has an underground passage, and the elevated section also extends toward its own niche; these parts are connected to each other.
The only thing the Russian had ever been told, based on what I remember
Unfortunately, I didn't remember to check your exact date, but I wish you all the best.
Several times, the Russian had said that we had asked about these things at Barik Taran.
These are things they said don't concern you.
Like, for example, four elementary school kids got into an argument over a schoolyard life-or-death issue.
Now, this morning, Eastern U.S. time, Shamadi, Mr. Russo said that there were signs of movement observed in this neighborhood, Safat and Sast.
But there are no specific details about the activities inside it.
And this is completely correct, and this is exactly what Sis said—studying the X-rays from the Crab Nebula.
Based on the physical composition that Cord Cooling has
For example, it is stated that the granite layer is approximately eighty meters thick.
where it is located above the place where these foundations were built underneath
Well, the question for these is whether all this tunnel and all these achievements
There is an eighty-meter-thick granite layer above its head.
And if indeed this is something like that
How do we know that these are the Oramiam Gali?
This is usually a gas station.
They didn't convert there, using some things that the Northern Kurds took.
Tinabliš to Fles
Now, how much should the flow rate be?
How much should the alloy be to ensure it can be placed in the furnace?
All of these are determinative.
It's not easy either.
And anyone who cannot see in these circumstances, in such years
There are several types of reeds.
There is a small village where some of the residents have become scholars.
There is a discharge site at its location.
And after that, those neighborhoods that use it
To turn it into a flyer that you can use this flyer
Of course, by building local explosive mixtures
For example, non-vegetarian sauces and the like
Just leave it in a bucket.
A warhead that can carry riders on these hypersonic missiles that are coming
Well then
What is the area of the space beneath it?
And are we talking about a certain guy?
Are there any other sections below this cob?
No one has noticed that these might be good.
They are producing those missiles.
So that you would want to build a kalaak.
And place it somewhere else on the rocket
Thank you. Regarding this sensitivity, you should quote it.
There is a triple example there.
And
I'm fine now.
Trabulsi is not honest with you.
It must be present in tangible forms.
They must have a special wall.
Be made for these
He pays attention to all of this.
So even this much they couldn't know either.
These are the tools or instruments and the defects
Related to missile production
I mean, the missiles themselves
They have one somewhere right there, nearby.
that they can ride them
You are clearly aware of him.
which was the thing that had always worried him
Some Islamic group fled toward the escape route.
Yefzadi is heading toward escape.
And
Now
Until the students enter
Now, how does this ending get concluded?
It ends as an Islamic gathering.
On all these websites
Announced
Varami
And websites that are now
The agency knows.
Like a tennis ball
Firdo
Isfahan
Of course
This also needs to be added.
that the report from the agency
On the issue of the Syrian nuclear facility
The very same place that
The Israelis' strike showed that
The Syrians wanted to
From
Hesedite Zobalot
Plutonium
Draw a rope
Plutonium that
Get rich
When the envy of the envious
Plutonium
It changes very little.
And we don't know what
These are with the Hesda'ite sect
What do the Niregah Busheh people do?
That is to say
A menu
He's very wealthy.
That they are having
They operate that way
And apparently even in ancient times
Borjan and After Borjan
These ones here
Explaining the Hesdai's assessments
Being
I mean all those guys who were there
Those who said that
He is washing dishes.
It gives you a chance to do these things
Without transparency
And regarding the tasks
The tricks they pull
Transparency
In reality, the protesters
For example, a friend of mine has a website.
What is the device?
Santik Biyosh is a statement.
Install the turbine so that the Arshans' officials can report.
Be realistic
And in fact, their work
On the other side
Do it
They are 11 years old.
Since the time of Bijan
And even specifically arranging them
Long before the time of the towers
They were coming toward themselves
To master the art of war
To make a promise
The Qur'anic reciters became silent.
While they have been clean for a period of time
And this is the soul of a sheep
That thing which
The reality
Half of them say
They say yes, we want competence.
We should have jealousy.
For the record, we want to emphasize the importance of competence.
They've had it for two months already.
How many weeks are in three months?
You guys are going to do this emotional manipulation thing
Fight the war of the goblins
I'm here, today I'm a little bit tired.
The fact is that there exists this...
If he had been thirty-three years old
If it's about this transition
Thickness of this tube
Specific drawings
Granite thickness
Okay, now I don't know either.
Many of Iran's forces
Physical and physiological
They are gone.
The granite thickness that it has
If
Really
890
100 meters long
Several
Bambu
Breakwater
Iran
Bambu
Breakwater
Bambu
Thirty bombs
Breakwater
Is there another way?
Just this one
Atomic bombs of the atomic era
Play this one
In order to
Destroy it
The existing patches
That's it.
Atomic rocket missile
Use it
I turned the panda-shaped jar back on.
At that time
This excuse of yours
Let's leave Russia and China out of it entirely.
Call the northern black one.
Let him use the bomb to retaliate.
Against others and another dispute
Turn it over.
Untrained pimtys
Oya
Very much
It exists.
It's like this and very sensitive.
And in my opinion, it seems to me that
What are you doing, O Qa'az?
A very long course
More beautiful than steam
And these remarks that Trump's supporters are making
Or they say at the end
The White House is becoming increasingly...
After the war
Once the U.S. midterm elections are over
Every war, whenever it draws near
You've seen the memorandum, haven't you?
He might want to negotiate.
Could you please write a poem?
These go behind the altar.
They create precise alignments.
Could you please write a memorandum?
They place this memorandum below.
There is no topic about closeness, is there?
Here is the one who is at war
Establish an Islamic collective gathering
It's not a matter that an Islamic group is unwilling to attend.
There is no topic about war.
Ali al-Mutayyid al-Qurb in the region
And exacerbate the instability in the region.
The situation in Iraq
In Lebanon
The head of the camel is the most important part.
We see the situation that is in
We see Yemen with our senses
This indicates that
War and conflict until the time when
It's an Islamic gathering, a shadowy one.
Pariq and his heavy one
Front of the area
Sister Clerk
How much do you think that
This statement by Trump regarding this
If the Republic of Khwahan takes control of the upper hand, then
After the elections
The war will end.
How to take this interpretation from him
What Trump says is that if
After the presidential election, the people will be the ones to decide.
The winners of these elections shall be.
The Islamic Republic that is ending
That the war comes to an end
That's it.
This is possible.
In order for us to be alright
Still
The election is scheduled for the 12th of Bahman.
Where I can remember
Now second replies
And
So many different events happening lately
It could happen.
What you said is way too much
In the journal of Sinan and Warsto
Blue Peak
Financial Times
Reuters Associated Press
Someone who doesn't look toward that side
If Donald Trump
House of Representatives
Give me the rest
In that case
Even that symbolic support
As much as possible
At the gatherings of Mughal courtiers
America will not have it
And at that time
That's a two-month gap.
From the beginning of the month
As evidence
New gatherings
They form
Time interval program
would be that
Trump has to do something about it.
Automated Program of the Republic
Islamic and work
Decide on the Islamic Republic
And in my opinion
Agreed
The trembling of this
For the Islamic Republic
If the Islamic Republic
The actor is not Aqil.
Therefore, this should not be.
Bombero, the actor Aqil
Collided
But
You can do this.
Trump
Islamic Republic of Iran
As far as this is concerned
Base it on
Because his hand might be in the legislative council.
The U.S. consulate is not open.
Good day, sir/madam
The Islamic Republic has arrived.
And a strike
Very much to them
My weight today and yesterday
They are listening in different directions.
that exercises
A lot of grayish blue has been given
It can be done through these American-made devices.
Special holidays
It will be sent in order to
The thing underneath the tiger's strength
Blow up and disappear
Baburnama means from
Don't use the Taktiki missiles.
Without the help of the Israelis
From the palm of their hand
Many of these things
Do you know them?
It's the Israelis, whom we know.
Using Iranians who
They are being taught.
Iranians who are opposed to the Islamic Republic
Shenshai Operation
Against the collective people of the Islamic community
Inside
We don't know whether Qalibaf
O Qani
My goal is to achieve a state of tranquility and peace.
They themselves are Israeli spies.
No or yes
Wani
In my opinion
Donald Trump
Peter the Painter
For the Islamic community it will be.
Agreed, if the council is convened
In tone
So that time
For the next two years
His hand will not remain open like that.
From a military perspective
From a time perspective, the product
And
When Donald Trump referred to it
To the resort list
Think about her
The last one who's thinking about you
And the last one left
A set is a collection of operations.
or a punishment
Iran
In the region of the Hormuz Strait
Take it or give me your card
Destroy it
Let them all do this job
Special lights to the messenger
Sarakh, places like Tenspordu
Or if he doesn't want to do that job
Finally
Use atomic energy
It means the work might have been brought here.
who wants to make use of atomic energy
I don't know how to do it
They want to destroy somewhere like
100 meters of mosquito gravity
Underground
If one hundred meters
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Or whatever we call it
Geological sprayer
North
The parks of Quebec
Ontario
Manitoba
Why?
When you get to North Ontario
From a certain point onward
Asphalt
Colorful suit
Round and round, your granite foolishness.
Why is it that
This advice from ten thousand years ago
These places were all power.
When the ice age of the Banderan
It would agree, and this
The ice forces began to move across the ground.
After settling down and
Go toward the north
These powers
From
Root
granitic root
In northern Ontario
Canada
One in the form of
Through power
Civilian supplies
China
He has way too much control over it.
Me and Greenland
With each other
We are China.
Well then
You went where all of you
They are going to build a road.
In northern Ontario
From a large quantity of explosives
They must use it
So that these very cliffs that
Verdict
It is on the ground.
The remaining noodles are the intermediate forces.
Blow up the highway so they can manage the freeway
Pull them apart from the middle of them.
Consider it
I've read this already.
Various prices, my lord
Yes, well
100 meters
It's only the density that's high.
90 meters 80 meters
It's dense, it's heavy, it's oil.
which must be deleted
If
The school should not have a stone crusher nearby.
They cannot do this thing.
Just recently, I had to go to school, coffee shop, and then the hospital.
Have a stone crusher
Someone needs to check the check.
Clergy
Done it.
No or yes
The Monty Hall game show is really good.
If you come here, I'll be waiting
Mr. Khuli
from the earth
Be yourself
Kunat
missile
Right at this moment
Tehran can be destroyed by the people of Tehran.
But we are using the tactical atomic problem so that it can be used.
Just target that specific location and destroy it.
And if he wants to use it, we think he'll probably want to put it under study.
How much is it? Will it harm ordinary people?
I am not a scholar. I do not claim ownership of this.
They are people who specialize in the study of explosive incidents involving unusual items.
And those who understand it should say this about the physical composition of that power.
And occasionally, some stone-throwing bombs may also be used.
that actually makes it go until a specific section
Since we're talking about the mountain anyway, then
And this beneath the mountain.
How deep is it actually under the mountain?
I really don't know what half of you is to that thing, since Iran is a flatland again.
You cannot do this for me.
Many of you know that its height, half of which is below sea level, is right here beneath the mountain.
How much is the elevation of the deepest point inside the mountain, half of your height above sea level?
They will break the stone fortress with bombs.
Horizontal penetration tunnels
Make a vertical penetration
And then, after they finish this motion, just enter here.
And then blow it up from inside.
Because this thing is absolutely impossible, it can't happen.
I am not an expert in this matter.
Yes, the study they did
P.I. a year ago
Yes, it was one of the responsibilities.
For example, Ferdou
It's a place where exactly such a thing exists.
Omdan with Mombai Sangar broke the seal.
Yes, it is clear that they will not destroy him if he does not become a hypocrite.
Fardo also became a physical mixture.
Continuing with great strength, loudly
They are not that different from each other, not even a bit.
Now it might possibly make a difference if they were combined.
Doesn't matter how big you are.
Again and again for Iran International
I spoke on the BBC, on both sides.
I'll take his military rank into account.
Strategic and tactical situation in the world
For example, when the Germans
They had made a heavy water mixture.
For making an atomic bomb
In the Norwegian mountains
Britons
With the King's approval, the decree of Nurosh
But still, I'm sorry.
Reason
But recently
In the past
King Nurosh
Omdan
Norwegian soldiers
and non-systematic individuals of Nurovish
who had betrayed the Allies
When Germany occupied Norway
They taught him in Scotland.
A half-baked idea
You can go now.
They removed the heavy water from the reservoir.
Heavy underground water
Where the relevant museum is located
I went to Oslo and saw it.
That
That operation
I left my car key there.
These are
And I can serve you
I value it when it's on the ground that we
World War Two as well
Send me the excess power
Do this task.
Because you think that AI with technology
That place during World War Two as well
Lancaster bombers
You cannot send these because
Carry it out
With today's technology, twenty twenty-six
Even if
Bombe stone throwing
Work even if
The automatic missile launcher will work.
Just for example
For example, Kurdish slits
That's great.
Come on, it has to make a shape.
Did you go or not?
And then
If they use atomic missiles now
The Ray of Ragiou Act
It's a blank page.
For a while longer in the area
The ground is outside, the ground is outside.
What kind of power do they plan to send?
What kind of coverage are they going to send?
That's what he should hammer down.
And after the next question
You who
They themselves are the elders.
Population area
Creating
From the population area surrounding the construction site
If
These ones themselves
I'm so tired of these ridiculous things
He is a good person.
If it bleats outside
Gio Actib
It becomes a half-circle here.
In that valley
In that area
It means the difference will be noticeable.
These are questions from a climatologist.
and climatologist
They should respond to him with an answer.
Therefore
A group of researchers
The statement must be clarified.
And talk about this topic
Regarding this topic
Give the reader the right to read.
But if the Americans
You're taking a picture of the Islamic Republic
He wants to build a homemade bomb.
Or is he building a bomb shelter?
In the form of a later date
With the translation of the Islamic Republic
Omicron variant
and the country of Jordan is carrying out
Consider this
Who are these people building so many improvised bombs?
And this one
In the following figure, on
Leave a nice comment
The same radioactivity
that it could create
Not just that Omicron variant's database
Caught in the grip of sorrow
would do so, rather
It will kill the people of Jordan.
It will cause cancer in them.
O people of Qatan
Rou
Or any other color that people prefer
Rou
and the Islamic Republic, if
Reached such a degree of madness
Radioactivity
Bring it on
Even with a bomb, someone can still come into existence.
There's no need to bring it.
who is the two-man from
Automated later
May it be of use
And you know
It will go to both sides
Theorem of Gaze
They have a duty.
Omicron Base
Why? Why is the Omicron base in Jordan?
In the fight against ISIS
That base has been established.
First and foremost
Omicron base in
Bahrain, Kuwait, and this side
They are located on the other side in Jordan.
Due to Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait
and the Kuwaiti arson in the degree
First establishing these bases
And then, due to the Islamic Republic
These are their own relatives and descendants.
They have responsibilities
And it is not inhibition.
You go ahead and tell them the other side
That you are to
Destroy that capability.
And this
And this is sometimes the time
In conventional sloth forms
They were reading the agreement.
For example, Qasrani are those who are in the capacity of
He should
Bambu atemi in hiryoshiman
They are doing Nakazaki.
Level
The disappearance that with
Those eight ones' pots
It happened in Leipzig, Riesdorf, and Hamburg.
Comparable
and the extent of destruction that
That native one in the city of Jerusalem
They threw it away
Now
Equalizing it with the soil
That's what happened in the city of Hīrōshīmā.
It coincided, but from a standpoint
Tragedy
A human who happened to be there
In riding
In Leipzig
Comparable when
And
An Islamic collective soul
At the very least, thanks be to God.
These tensions have not come about.
Rō
Below
Let Tehran be correct.
Or make it right under the arch.
It wasn't in its place anymore; now Tehran is at this point.
It's mountainous.
It would have been more feasible.
Granite thickness
I don't know
Ferdou
Oya
They couldn't.
It is specified.
Fortunately
That's it.
Protect the people, O Lord.
It's not human.
Two of the Maliks
They are here.
In my opinion
This one
Don't hide from anyone in the world
Guest of the program Ghaat
Three Apocrypha Times
Thank you very much.