There's a lot happening beyond the workbench in this episode. I'm getting a small boatbuilding club started here in Victoria, thinking about our first group build, exploring traditional boatbuilding methods from overseas, and developing a few ideas for future projects.
The club is inspired in part by the Oarlock and Sail boatbuilding group in Vancouver, BC. We've started with a small handful of members and are working out how to share workshop space and build boats together. Our first project will likely be a small Forest and Stream skiff, based on a design published in 1890.
I also take a look at a couple of traditional boatbuilding methods I've been watching online, including some ingenious ways of using available materials to build boats in Bangladesh and Indonesia. Seeing how other builders approach the same basic problems is a great source of ideas.
On the design side, I've been getting interested in model building again. I'm considering using a planked model to develop a small, lightweight rowing boat that would be ideal for a local outing my wife and I enjoy: paddling up an inlet for coffee.
There's also an update on the upcoming lapstrake course, a possible small run of Nomad workshop aprons, an idea for a miniature brass bevel square, and a new boatbuilding project-log website that may be useful for our club.
And finally, I'm putting together a Q&A video. If you have questions about wooden boatbuilding, tools, techniques, design, or my approach to a particular problem, send them along.
The Forest and Stream skiff model plans are available through Patreon at any level. At the $5 and up level, I'll also mail you a paper set of plans and a sticker. They're also available through my website.
The January lapstrake course is full. If you're interested in a future course, contact the Cowichan Bay Maritime Centre and ask to be added to their mailing list. https://www.classicboats.org/
**A couple of questions for you:** Would you be interested in a Nomad workshop apron? And what would you consider a reasonable price for one? I'm also curious whether a small brass bevel square for model making would be useful.
If there's a boatbuilding question you'd like me to cover in a future Q&A, leave it in the comments, send me an email, or get in touch through Instagram.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for supporting the work.
0:00 A workshop update 0:12 Starting a boatbuilding club in Victoria 1:34 Finding a place for the club to build 2:40 Choosing our first group project 2:47 The 1890 Forest and Stream skiff 3:24 Building a scale model from the plans 4:18 Taking the design to full size 5:07 Lapstrake course update 5:42 Inspiration from traditional boatbuilders 6:21 A clever method of building a flat-bottom boat 7:19 Using metal for the sides 8:03 Another traditional boatbuilding method 9:30 Judging the Victoria Classic Boat Show 10:17 Model making as a way to develop boat lines 10:47 Designing a boat for a local outing 12:19 Possible Nomad workshop aprons 13:53 A miniature bevel square for model making 14:44 BoatbuildingLog.com 16:03 A project log for the boatbuilding club 17:08 Send me your boatbuilding questions 17:57 Supporting Nomad Boat Building
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The speaker discusses the launch of a boat building club in Victoria, the construction of an 1890s skiff, and his interest in global traditional shipbuilding. He also shares updates on a custom \"wheelbarrow boat\" design, potential merchandise, new tools for model makers, and a digital project tracking resource for the DIY boat-building community.
so today we're just going to do a little vlog. i
had some notes. so i started a boat building club
when i was in vancouver. there's a small club
that we have there called Orlock and Sail. a great
little organization. it's
been going oh man probably like almost 30 years now or something
like that. and they've got a little workshop down
on the water at the maritime museum. like a small
i don't know how big it is like 10 by 12 foot shed kind
of thing maybe it's a bit bigger than
that 10 by 15 but sure so the club builds boats together collectively
and they've got a small
fleet that they use and they probably get like i don't know 20
or 30 people out on a saturday
coming down there to uh take part in either building
or just maintaining the boats and
using the boat so great organization it
was started by Dave Bradford of Alder Bay Boats
Dave has retired in the last few years.
The club started out in his shop and it has expanded.
I was on the board for a little while while I was in Vancouver.
I ran into somebody who reached out to me who's a member there.
He lives in Victoria now and he's been traveling back and forth
from Victoria to Vancouver to participate in the builds over there.
So I said to him, you know, that's stupid.
We should have a small building club here in
Victoria. And there was one a long,
long time ago, but it was short-lived, I think.
So he and I said, you know, let's just, let's start something up.
So let's try it. So that's
what we've done. We've just had one meeting.
We've got a second meeting tonight.
and at the moment we're just we have i don't know somewhere between six
and ten members for the
moment keep it relatively small
because we don't have a a fixed place to hold it what we've decided
to do is take turns using our own shop spaces as to host the event
so we did the first one here at my space
Going to another guy's tonight.
I arranged to collaborate with the Cowichan Bay Maritime Center
to host our group builds.
So that's a bit of a drive for us, unfortunately.
It's like about an hour to drive out there.
um from Victoria so that's a little bit of an impediment
but at least it's a start you know
and they've got the workshop space they've got insurance
to cover uh people working in that
workshop so they're they're down with that idea
which is cool and of course if there's some locals
there that want to jump on or whether it's other members
of the Cowichan Bay Maritime Center Society
that that want to participate with us that's cool too
so I'll make sure that we extend that
that invitation. So anyhow we've decided to
get rolling on our first build pretty quickly
and i think we've decided on doing my forest and stream
skiff now that's it's not my own design it's um it's
a design that hold on a sec so i found this guy
online somewhere. i think greg russell has got it
in his book too. it was designed in 1890 and
was published in forest
and stream magazine. and it's just like a nine foot uh no it's a
little bit longer it's like nine foot nine
or something like that. if you're interested in this
in this by the way this is a design
that i have produced sort of a set of plans for to build
I built like a scale model version of,
so it's the same boat, but I've designed it.
With little plank expansions and things like that,
you can knock out a little wooden scale model
right off the plan. So it'll come out like this size
if you're just working with printouts that
are like standard US letter size sheets.
And you could build it in wood, you can build it
in cardboard. Here's sort of a just
a little simple cereal box cardboard version of it.
And the idea is that this is supposed
to be give you sort of a taste of a boat building
to get you started. The plans are all annotated
to educate you about the basics of wooden boat building and it
also has the original article that came with that that set of
plans from 1890. Anyway,
I thought it would be a kind of a fun place for us to start so we'll
probably build that and i'm going to bring out materials
for us to loft it full size while we're
out there at the meeting. now you can get that set
of plans if you join my patreon group at any level
you can download digital version. if you join me
at like the five dollar and up level i mail you out
a set of paper plans along
with a sticker. if you don't feel like joining me on patreon
that's fine you can buy them off my website for five bucks as well.
Regardless, you could take the model version, you could expand
that to make it a full-size version if you want to, like you could use
the plank expansions and scale those up if you wanted to,
or you can just build it traditional where you don't use
the plank expansions exactly, you just build it with solid wood planks.
So it's basically convertible from solid wood to plywood if you want.
Since we're on the subject of Couch and Bay,
my lapstrake course there is full, so that's happening in January.
We'll run, there'll be another one next year,
and if you're interested in participating that
at any time, you should just contact the Maritime Centre there,
the Cowichan Bay Maritime Centre,
or Cowichan Bay Maritime Society, and get onto their mailing list.
Let them know that you're
interested in the course, and they should put you onto
a call list for the next time we're running
one, which will, in theory, be somewhere around fall,
winter next year. So I've been kind of
back into the interest of model building a little bit.
I was watching the YouTubes and there was
this video that came up about these guys
in Bangladesh that live in this area that is all
farmland but when monsoon season comes through it just
the whole thing floods. Everywhere floods
and there's just these little islands
that are left where people's homes are and you can't get
anywhere without a boat and so there are these guys
that build these boats and so I was really
The way they're building them,
they're very simple double-ended flat bottom boats,
but they have this cool process that I hadn't seen before
in which they're laying out what is essentially like a ladder.
and uh two ladders that they connected
the ends with you know raked stems and so as i
were watching the videos like i i want
to try building one of those so i was following their
process and took a bunch of screenshots to try
and work out some rough dimensions and uh and then
decided to build a model using their process
and so what i found kind of cool about it was they're
very efficient with the materials they're using
the way they plank the bottom of this thing so
clunk clunk clunk clunk like they just like
maximize whatever plank they slam down first
they don't worry about trying
to make everything symmetrical you can see they run a plank off one
angle and just plank across
and do the same thing the other way and i thought it's kind of
kind of a neat use efficient use of materials
that way they do the same thing with decks kind
of like that and then what was really interesting i found
was that they didn't plank the sides they
They used like a roll of tin or probably like aluminum.
to uh to plank the sides and so they just nailed
this thing on and i'm pretty sure they didn't put
anything underneath the the edges of the tin
so i think they uh they did mention in the video that
they leave the tarring up to the customer
so i think customers just come along and they just
gobble that thing up with you know some sort of roofing tar
or something like that
But regardless, it was just kind of interesting,
the methodology they used, and so I found
it quite intriguing.
I'll put a link to that video down
in the description for you to go check out.
And I've also been watching this other guy who I think is from...
Indonesia and he does a different style of boat
that is well it's not dissimilar than this
in some ways but it's got a very different methodology.
The garboard's first method much
like we would do with a flat bottom skiff
and he's connecting those garboard planks up and then
fitting some floors in between and then he's using
the technique for extending the sides by edge nailing.
the board so he'll drill a pile of holes put nails in there
and make a mating plank that
goes on on edge on top of that with mating holes
and they drive them all together and he uses
this kind of big hooked scarf joint
to join the planks uh longitudinally
So I find that kind of interesting.
Just the way they're able to sort of do this stuff freehand I
find quite cool. And then what's interesting
to me about the Indonesian guy is he takes
that same methodology
and he produces quite a wide variety of boats using the same
basis but then building on top of that like he'll use
this canoe form as as a as a bottom but then
he'll like extend out to make this platform
for a wider boat that's got more capacity or something
that'll you know have a long tail on it
or he'll you know make a transom version to make it more
like a a planing hull. Anyhow that gets me on to my next subject.
I got invited to be a judge at the
Victoria Classic Boat Show.
It's been running for I don't know 30 years or more something like that
and I don't really go down to it too much you know once
in every few years I pop down for an
hour or something like that but I know a lot
of the people that are involved in the show and so
this year they had a couple judges that retired out I guess
and so they asked me to come join.
And as well as Sam Devlin. If you're a fan of stitch and glue boats,
you would know who Sam Devlin is.
And so it was really cool to get to meet him,
spend a little bit of time with him.
So I had a great time with Sam,
and I picked up Sam's book on boat building.
I had it on my shelf already, so I was skimming through it,
and then I found he had a really interesting
Thank
chapter in there about model making and about using
Model making as a form of developing lines,
like building planked models, as opposed to...
carved half models and he
so he lays out his method for doing that which i found quite
you.
intriguing and so of course is mainly focused
on building chine hulls every now and then my wife
and i go out for some boating we jump in a canoe
and we go to a local waterway it's like an estuary
and along the way there's a little coffee shop
that's right down by the water and so
we can actually paddle up to it they don't have like a dock
or anything like that we kind of cut
clamber out at the edge of the water.
Hopefully the tide is favorable to us. We don't have to
get muddy, but it's just something we like
to do is to sort of paddle up
this estuary, this inlet, and then, you know,
stop for coffee on our way back down and
have a snack. But I've always thought it'd
be kind of cool to build a boat
that is specifically for doing this one little day trip.
The canoe is fine for it, but it's not
necessarily the perfect thing.
And so I came up with this idea for this simple
chine hull, kind of a scow
or an elongated pram that would actually roll well. But I'd also like
it to be like a wheelbarrow boat so I can,
you know, pull up to a parking spot, offload this
thing, and then wheel it down to the water
because there's some different places along
this waterway that you can launch easily enough.
And so I want this thing to be sort of canoe.
Sam's book gave me some ideas about how to develop that design.
I kind of did a rough sketch without taking
any actual measurements into consideration.
So I thought I'd like to sort of expand on that,
redraw that thing, and use Sam's method to
try and build a model of it.
Another thing I wanted to talk about was products for sale. I
haven't really done much for that.
I've had t-shirts and stuff available and they really aren't.
don't move too much. but the one thing i
do get inquiries about are aprons. like i've got an
apron on my the youtube store
but it's it's you know it's okay it's nothing special it's
pretty much just like a cooking type apron uh
not really a great shop apron i would say.
But I thought I would throw it out there anyhow. But I've had enough
people ask me about the apron that I wear like, where did you get that?
Well I made it. So I was wondering if there's
interest in my producing say a small run of aprons just to try
this out. I'd probably just do a short run myself
of say half a dozen or ten aprons or something like that and if it's
a hit talk to there's a local outfit in Vancouver that produces
aprons.
commercially like a small mom-and-pop kind
of shop that I would probably go talk to.
Anyhow, if a Nomad apron is something that might be of interest to you,
let me know in the comments
and especially let me know what your price point would be on that.
I know like Adam Savage has an apron that he sells.
I don't know what the price tag is on his.
So I'd like to get a feel for if that's of interest,
you know, what's going to be the breaking point
or what's the reasonable range that you'd be willing to spend
on an apron that's sort of largely duplicating my sort of...
style of apron and the detailing that I have in it,
the functionality that I have in it.
And another sort of interesting product I thought about was making
like a model maker's size bevel square.
Like I've got this guy that I use here.
And I was thinking about making one
that's just like teeny tiny for for model making because when
you're when you're doing stuff like this and you want
to pull an angle off of something and
transcribe it you know a square like that gets to be a bit chunky
but a little tiny little one that's
maybe we'll say it's I'm gonna guess it's maybe three quarters
of an inch or an inch long something
You know, big enough that you can actually handle it,
but small enough that it fits into the scale of the model.
I'd probably do that all in brass.
If that's of interest to you, please let me
know. And again, what kind
of price point would you find reasonable for it?
Let's see, okay,
I got a call from a guy who's set up a website that I find interesting.
This is not sponsored,
I'm just doing this out of community interest, shall we say.
This website is called boatbuildinglog.com.
It's a site that is intended to act as like a...
A tracking tool for your own projects
and as a resource for people who are interested in boat
building projects, DIY boat building projects.
And so the users are invited to create a specific log
for a specific project and then you log
the time you're putting in the materials you're putting in
And it works like a journal.
So that others can refer to it
and see how long it took you to build your thing.
You can upload photos, you can leave notes, all that sort of stuff.
I thought that's kind of cool because it's like, you know, there's
a lot of people put a lot of blogs out there of their personal builds.
And this sort of brings it all into one resource to allow you,
the interested party, to get on there and see if you can find something
that's helpful to you in terms of like the cost and time.
And that sort of thing and the challenges there within.
So I think we're going to
employ this tool for the boatbuilding club,
or at least I'm going to propose that.
So that we've got a single point
for the club members to go and see how the
project has come along. Those who can't participate
or haven't had a chance to
come down and work on a project.
So we don't have to worry about setting up our own website
or anything like that right away.
The one thing about the boat club is that I don't have the time
or energy to do all this administrative stuff with it.
So I'm just trying to facilitate.
The club, hopefully there'll be some members
in there that want to take on these roles.
So I think the boatbuildinglog.com website would
be a great tool for that club.
And I've been talking with the creator
of that website, and he thinks so too.
He thinks it could be a good resource for other clubs.
So he's building it out a little bit to suit a club.
He's building out a portion of it
to suit small community organizations like that so they can use it.
for their own purposes and so it'll have
some different factors that allow you
to sort of plug in how many participants were working on
a particular project at any given day and that sort of thing. So it
it'll log things a little differently.
The last thing I want to talk about is
I want to do a Q&A video and so I'm putting out a call for
questions for me. So if there's anything you want to know
about small boat building, about
About how I do things
or answers to your questions about challenges you have or anything.
Sky's the limit.
You can leave a comment and I'll pull those questions out
and put them into my pile.
Or you could send me an email if you want.
Or you could go on to Instagram
and send me a DM over there and present your question.
So if you throw your name in there
and you want your name called out, I'm happy to do that too.
Or if you don't want your name called out, by all means, let me know.
Okay, so there we are. Q&A call out.
Give me your questions. So that's it for today. If you
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And I want to thank you all for
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and we will see you later. Ciao for now, folks.