Lewis Goodall reacts to Trump's gaffes at midterm rally
Oct 23, 2026
Video Summary
AI GeneratedA discussion on the current state of the Republican Party and Donald Trump's declining influence. The conversation covers shifting polling trends in \"ruby red\" states like Mississippi, Trump's increasing eccentricity and perceived mental decline on the campaign trail, and the precarious position of JD Vance as the potential heir to the MAGA movement.
We're going to be talking about Donald Trump again.
We can't quite get enough of him this week, can we?
But there is some Mississippi news before we do that.
It's not often you get to say that, is it, on British Radio?
Mississippi news.
The river, the state, who knows?
The spelling.
The spelling, no, no, that's still the same.
Still loads of S's and P's.
Do you know how we used to spell it as kids, to remember it?
Go on.
We'd say Mrs M, Mrs I, Mrs S, there's Si,
Mrs S, there's Si, Mrs P, P, I.
Right.
How often did Mississippi come up?
All the time.
Was it something that the Scouser kids back then needed to learn?
We're very clever.
We like to know our geography.
Look, I know.
And also, it's a good word to say in Scouse, isn't it?
Mississippi.
Mississippi.
It's not as good as...
You might not remember this.
I don't know how much you're into your football.
You're not really, are you?
What do you think?
I think not.
You know what?
As ever, you are a perceptive lady, Sheila Fogarty.
The best Scouse pronunciation of a foreign place
will forever be during the World Cup when it was in Germany.
No?
Gelsenkirchen.
Gelsenkirchen
Gelsenkirchen
you can get some cream
for that
honestly
I wouldn't worry about it
anyway
anyway
how did we end up here
Mrs M, Mrs S, Mrs SSI
Mrs SSI, Mrs PPI
is everything alright
I'm fine
taking your pills
good
okay
keep going
no
this is
we've been talking
Sheila last couple of days
and weeks
haven't we
about the midterms
which are obviously
coming up
in well
less than two weeks now
in a couple of Tuesdays time
and
increasingly Republicans
every time
you sort of check the polling
seems the Republicans
are falling further and further back
to deep ruby red territory we talked the other day about Kansas
for example a state that hasn't voted
for a democratic senator since the 1930s now some
concerns and you always have to treat this with a bit
of pinch of salt it can be a little bit of
the sort of fog of war and on a campaign
but increasingly it seems that republicans are
devoting more and more resources
and if you want to know where a party might be a bit worried
follow the money to ruby red mississippi now mississippi
in the deep south part the old
Confederate South, of course. It has been a
Republican, let's say, ruby red
Republican state, more or
less since the sort of Southern strategy
of Richard Nixon's time. You have to go all the way
to go back to 1982 for a
Democrat to win a Senate
race. This is a state which Trump
got 60% of the vote in.
That's despite the fact that it has
in 2024, that's despite the fact that it
has a big African-American, a big black population.
60% of the vote. In fact, quite a few
Mississippi African-American voters
transferred over to Trump. But the
incumbent senator there increasingly it seems concerned
that the president himself is a
significant drag on the ticket
and look as i said i can be a bit skeptical about these sorts of
things um trump tends to overperform even
though he's not on the ballot this time tends to be that
his coalition of of voters who are do not normally vote have
a lower propensity to vote can be harder
to poll and it is true that pretty much every
election he has either been on the ballot for
or been president during,
Republicans have tended to over-perform.
So I would be astonished if Mississippi actually did go blue
come election day.
But the fact that it's even in contention
and the most recent polling showed
on the generic ballot, as the Americans call it,
i.e. you ask an American voter,
just don't think about the candidates for a second.
If you had to choose between voting for a Republican
and voting for a Democrat, what would you choose?
The Democrats are up 11 points.
Now, that would be the biggest spread
in any election for decades.
And it would bring into play states
and congressional races that would normally never be in the picture.
If we are and we are in very tumultuous political and global times,
I guess that's reflected in polls ultimately, isn't it?
Well, I think what you can see, Sheila, for sure.
And again, you know, we have to be a little skeptical about this,
not least because we were talking about yesterday.
The Democratic brand itself is still pretty poor.
It's not like the Dems have come up with a great set of solutions
to some of the unpopularity they had during the Biden years.
But Trump, I think what we can certainly say,
according to all the polling, Trump is now polling at historic lows.
He's roughly where George W. Bush was at the end of his second term,
post-Katrina, post-Iraq, descending into hell, all of those things.
Trump is now deeply unpopular.
And I think one of the reasons,
and we've talked about it before, why did he get elected in 24?
It's because of the cost of living.
Cost of living is still an enormous problem in the United States.
And Trump not only seems indifferent to it, but even for Trump, again,
as we've been talking about more and more over the last few days,
he is seeming, even for himself,
increasingly eccentric and deranged on the campaign trail.
Just listen to this. This is him talking about
the prospects of renaming an ocean after himself.
I only like two oceans, the Atlantic Ocean and the Pacific Ocean.
I'm not going to put either Trump
or America on any other ocean but these two.
So we seriously looked at the Atlantic Ocean and I called Google Maps,
who are really great with the lake and really great
And I spoke to a brilliant guy, Sundar.
He heads all of Google. He's a brilliant guy.
Sergey and Sundar totally brilliant guys
and you know they still rattled from the gulf and
I said Sundar I'm thinking of the Atlantic Ocean can you handle it
no no no this time I'm not doing
it he said he said he said ocean's
are different sir you know they cover they cover a lot of they
cover really a lot of countries please don't ask us
to do that so I'll probably pass should I pass
So I think let's keep it the Atlantic Ocean, right?
Well, perhaps it's not a surprise, Sheila,
that he wants to rename the Atlantic after himself.
I mean, it's thick, it's unpredictable,
and he's convinced that Europe should be grateful for it.
So, look, I don't know.
I mean, this is just the latest thing that we've seen from Trump.
And I think there's a serious point to all of this,
which is that this is a president who seems so off the boil right now.
Does anybody seriously believe?
There was always, I think, a bit of a sort of bargain with Trump.
They knew he was unpredictable.
They knew he was mercurial.
They knew he could be a bit mad sometimes.
But there's always a sort of slight sense of purpose,
a sense that he'd smash stuff up to get things done,
not just for himself, but potentially for the voter.
I think the latter seems to be lost.
Whenever we play clips like that, people either tell me we're having
a sense of human failure or which could be possible sometimes.
But us, I wouldn't say, you know, it could be extremely funny
or that he is trying to distract us from something else.
Possibly say all the time.
But I think this is what I'm saying.
I think this stuff was always fine. And people actually say,
you know, I mean, I've said it many times myself.
The guy can be very, very funny. He can
be knowingly funny and unknowingly funny.
He is really sharp. I mean,
I always say the best debate moment that there ever was.
And that was genuinely a kind of mic drop moment
is when Hillary Clinton said, well, it's awfully good
that Donald Trump is a sort of person like Donald Trump.
Isn't in charge of our justice system as quick as a flash.
Trump says, yeah, because you'd be in jail.
You know, this is a funny guy. Right. He can be witty.
He can be sharp. He has a sort of a he has a sort
of animalistic sort of sense of humor in some ways.
I do think, believe me, I have watched more Trump rallies,
either in person or online, than is healthy.
And I can just say that I do think a change is taking place.
There's a descent.
There's a descent into the utterly quixotic
and eccentric all of the time.
Sometimes he could be brilliantly on message and combine
and fuse the humour, meld it with a political message.
Now, I just don't know what the political message is anymore.
I mean, to try and illustrate what I mean, Sheila,
at some point, Trump isn't even using words anymore.
Just listen to this.
You know, he was a lieutenant governor
and I'd say 90 percent of the reason I took the governor.
I took the governor.
I put her over at the United Nations because I wanted this guy to be.
I wanted this guy to become governor.
Sorry. Sorry, Mr. President.
Can we just get that one more time, please?
And again, again, Don.
Boom.
Right, I'm done.
I can't do this anymore.
What are you supposed to say?
I've expended so much of my energy in my life
trying to analyse this man.
And at this point,
we're just dealing with, at best,
onomatopoeia.
At best.
The noises.
I mean, were they deliberate or involuntary noises?
Because we can all make an involuntary noise
from time to time.
Let's not get back onto that subject again
with regards to Trump.
We had enough of that from you last week.
No, he just decided to go
completely randomly in the middle of the sentence.
Yeah, me. Yeah. What is there to say?
I mean, you know, and I did want to introduce
this programme by saying good afternoon.
Welcome to Superdrug. Superdrug.
I was doing a story about Superdrug much later in the programme.
And for some reason it was to the front of my mind. Well, that's fine.
I mean, that's all right. I mean,
that's that's I mean, Superdrug's a nice place.
They call that a brain fart, don't they?
Again, let's not go back onto that.
Look, at least, though, the vice president is showing
a little bit more energy on the campaign trail
and is a little bit more cogent.
You do see now the strong difference between the two men
in terms of cogency,
and one is clearly potentially the future,
whether you like it or not.
Well, Vance versus Trump.
I mean, he does have...
I mean, he's literally half his age.
I mean, he's a millennial by comparison.
And you can see he's positioning himself, can't you?
Yes, I mean, I think the problem for Vance, of course,
is that he may be fastened and attached to a corpse,
i.e. the Maga Corpse.
You know, he will be what looked like a great move for him in 2024,
for, which is to set himself up as the inheritor,
the heir to the MAGA throne.
Well, what will be left of that throne at the end of this?
I mean, this is the big question.
I mean, look, it's very clear what the Dems are going to run in 28.
They're going to run against Trump, even if he's not on the ballot.
They're going to run against his legacy.
They're going to do the oldest campaign political ploy in the book,
which is it's time for a change.
They should do a montage of all his noises.
Well, yeah, it might win him some extra votes.
Who knows?
But but, you know, but it's the Republican race is going
to be absolutely fascinating because, of course,
they are going to want to to inherit the MAGA base
and they're going to want the Trump endorsement.
But they're also very quickly not going to want it either.
They're going to need it in order to get the nomination.
But when it comes to the election,
MAGA and the imprimatur of MAGA may well become a curse.
They'll want to reinvent themselves.
And there's a question as well
as to whether even MAGA itself might have,
which is now sort of starting to ever so gingerly move forward
and ask itself what does MAGA look like
or what does this movement look like in a post-Trump world,
also asking itself the question, well, was Donald Trump MAGA enough?
It's clear to see that there could be contours
and you've seen people like Tucker Carlson move into this space.
Well, say that Donald Trump didn't live up to the MAGA mantle.
He wasn't going to invade foreign countries.
that was one of the reasons this whole thing got started
that it was a a revolt against George W
Bush style republicanism republicanism
and foreign adventurism and neo-conservatism and this was
supposed to be a movement that was to some extent isolationist it
was Make America Great Again Trump
has betrayed those values he's
also taking his eye off the ball on re-industrialization in the
American economy and all of these currents that Trump not only rode
but helped form so the
Republican nomination and Vance's role in that will
be a fascinating one and what Vance couldn't
even get the other day i mean Trump again humiliated him
which is one of his favorite activities
which was when Trump was asked well will you
be endorsing JD Vance as your successor and he said
no we haven't even discussed it yet
which tells you something about the relationship between the
two men i think well let's see where
that goes thank you very much Lewis that was fun and
interesting and informative Lewis, good old funny noise sorry head
of funny noises it's 246
That's it.

