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Welcome to TMZ live and welcome back. Thank you. Uh, 9 11 is tomorrow the 25th anniversary and um Everybody thinks that there were four airplanes that were used as weapons of mass destruction there were But they don't realize what they don't realize is there was a fifth plane at least one other plane a fifth plane Targeted for mass destruction and we know this because we have spoken to the pilot We have spoken to the flight attendants. We have spoken with the dispatcher of united flight 23 Which was supposed to take off at jfk at 9 a.m on 9 11 bound for los angeles This plane would have been in the air Um, but for the fact that there were an unusual number of planes waiting for takeoff It was it never got in the air, but almost did and there was a lot that happened on this plane that led Everyone on board who worked that plane Including the fbi by the way to believe that there may have been hijackers with evil intent um We get into a lot here we talk about seven people who Um were very suspicious on this plane one of whom was arguing with the flight attendant take off We don't want to wait for food take off. They were they were searching the they were looking into the cabin There was all sorts of things going on But the big thing The big thing is that once the plane went back to the gate after one of the towers was hit and The plane was evacuated and they looked everywhere bathrooms everywhere Everyone's off the plane now now the crew's off all the passengers and the crew and Yet when they looked back, well, they they locked the doors, right? And and they locked they locked the doors And so there should be there's no way to get onto the plane for someone new to get on the plane, right? And they saw people running up and down the aisles of the aisle of this plane there were They they saw people on that plane and could not figure out how in the world they got on the plane So one of the flight attendants barbara brachy who by the way, I went to college with uh was working flight. Uh, 23 And she talks about what happened when the SWAT team got back on the plane To look at why there were people running back and forth Here's what she said as we deplaned We made sure Lavatories were clear Every row was clear. There was not a person left on that plane All I saw was a united mechanic waiting for me and when I opened the door, he says, all right guys You'll have to get off the airplane I've been ordered to lock up the airplane So we did just that People on the ground baggage people or somebody that worked on On the ground there saw people running in the aircraft The first thing they asked me was why the floor hatches were open on the airplane. They had to be opened After everyone had gone off the aircraft. I now believe That it is more likely than not that we were the fifth airplane The hatch is interesting because somebody was in the belly of that airplane, right and presumably whoever was in the belly of the plane is Open that hatch to let all the people that they saw running around. That's where they could have that's the only place they could have come from the only place they could have come from and We talked to the pilot who said that it was clear to them The reason they're running back and forth is they're trying to get incriminating Evidence and one of the things that we talk about in this documentary, which we're going to tell you about in a minute is that There were box cutters that had been placed on other planes And were they looking in the seat pockets to get rid of the evidence incriminating evidence? The one thing that that's always told me is why? What stopped this from happening? What stopped the fifth plane taking off? I know we said it was more crowded there, but it was just the timing didn't work out Let the plane get off the ground two things Because the pilots said normally on a tuesday, um, there were one or two planes waiting for takeoff There were 10 planes. So they were in line. They would have been in the air if it weren't for that line The second thing is fruit plates that there were people on that plane in first class four of them who didn't eat meat and the Catering service didn't put fruit plates in the plane. They couldn't eat meat. So the flight attendants wanted to delay Um taxiing so they could get more fruit plates And that's when one of the passengers started arguing with the flight attendant. We don't need food We just want to take off and was really adamant and were it not for that delay and the line They would have been in the air and and then there's the the comment that was made by one of the passengers Uh as they were deplaning and at that point they knew that the towers had been hit or one of the towers had been hit and One of the passengers asked the crew asked a crew member Did they get the white house? Did they get the white house? So at that point nobody knew anything about they only figured there was one plane. Nobody knew anything. So one other thing the fbi Interviewed they were concerned enough that they interviewed Every member of this flight crew the next day and even put a lineup together Um to see if they could identify certain people The fbi has been radio silent on this the whole government has been radio silent united airlines, which we dealt with Radio silent so we have this documentary. It is called tmz investigates 9 11 the fifth plane It is currently on youtube and I am telling you if you watch this documentary You will absolutely know that there was a fifth point there's one obvious reason why the fbi united the government in general would not want to talk about this because If if it is the fifth plane and like you said when you watch the documentary, it's hard to there's too much evidence They don't want Think of what that means. That means that whoever was going to do that Is still here potentially Dane drebin from gig harbor, washington guys. This is one of the biggest stories I've ever seen you do on this show and I have to say what I think about first is Where was the location? that this Plane was intended to go. That's what's the craziest thing to think about. Where do you think it could have been targeting? We don't know. I mean, we don't know the people that were on that plane Uh, especially the four there were seven people who were suspicious the four in first class They were actually another person in business, but those five Disappeared they were off the plane and we don't know we don't know where they went Um, the flight crew doesn't know we don't know what the government did with them if anything So and especially the people who were still on that were on the plane afterward Nobody knows about that and they disbanded because they could have gone right down the hatch out under the tarmac to the tarmac and gone What was the holdup in the jury for lindsey clancy's trial what was it that caused the mistrial Uh, we know that there was one juror who was a holdout Um would not go along there were 11 jurors Uh who presumably were voting not guilty by reason of insanity, right? And then this one holdout Uh, which is the reason why the judge ended up declaring a mistrial Well now one of the jurors is speaking out about that holdout and what was it that? Stopped that person from joining the other 11 jurors Um, it sounds like they were not convinced. Um by the logic that this guy was using It was definitely frustrating mainly frustrating when he um, he explicitly said You know, I don't know if the prosecution or the defense proved their case He expressed that right yeah take me inside the deliberation room there was times where you know our vote was Different than the last day Um, but I think ultimately once we laid out all the evidence um in how we saw that really brought everyone kind of on the same page except for this one juror there was Several times I would ask him to show us like evidence or you know Describe a witness testimony that helped to prove what he was saying And and he couldn't which is why we ultimately Sent in that now Two things are really striking about that One is when the holdout said I don't know if the prosecution or the defense proved its case In a situation like that the defense wins because it's not the defense job to prove the case It's prosecutors and if that juror said that Then that juror should have voted not guilty presumably by reason of insanity That's what they said to him That's where the frustration came from said if you are saying the prosecution didn't then that's it if you have doubt about them proving it It's their burden the defense has to say nothing They can sit there the entire time the entire burden of proving someone's guilt is on the prosecution So by saying that showing he couldn't follow the law and that's it You can see how frustrated now We understand that juror is with this the nature of this conversation and sending the notes to the judge now I understand the whole conversation the judge berating the jurors about or not berating but trying to re-educate them about Reasonable doubt so right. So what is reasonable doubt? Yeah, and and that's the second thing which is that And I didn't know this it sounded to me like it was 11 to 1 the whole time, but this juror said no we didn't We didn't we didn't get 11 votes until the last day So it must you know could have been seven to five or something like that So it seemed like there was a process where as the days went on people started voting Not guilty by reason of insanity and I think that makes a stronger case for the defense on appeal Saying wait a minute if they were getting in line Why did you pull the plug when it was 11 to 1 if every day more people were going to the defense side and and then well Why didn't you pull the one recalcitrant one who wouldn't follow the law if you had people? Gradually coming to the 11 not guilty by reason of insanity Then putting in a new juror who could follow the law you would imagine would fall in line with that It does bolster that case well and also look on appeal. I'm just giving my personal opinion I think the judge made a mistake that the judge to say hey, can you follow the law and they say? Yeah, the judge says okay, that's not enough you say to each one each juror you you ask them What did this holdout say and if the holdout the holdout wouldn't wouldn't do the reasonable doubt standard properly? The holdout was refusing to follow the law if you've got seven jurors saying that and then you go to the holdout I think an appellate court could say you should have booted that juror You should have put an alternate in and because you didn't do it under the law Jeopardy attaches and that means the prosecution Cannot retry lindsey clancy. Yeah in general It's hard to go into that black box of the deliberations and they were very reluctant to do so however This could be one of those extreme circumstances where it was necessary to show that it was a manifest necessity to declare the mistrial Which is which is the standard? And one of our chatters is saying that regardless of despite all this none of them did their jobs These women were talking about having compassion for a killer. It still just comes down to that Well, it's not compassion for it. It's not compassion She's not guilty. She's not guilty. It's not about having the passion you could hate somebody but still say they're insane They were saying at the time they did it. So it's not about compassion. That's wrong My name is takara checking in from connecticut i'm known as apr and beauty um You know, I think that the one holdout juror is the hero these other jurors I feel like they were too excited to let lindsey clancy off Without any consequences for killing her children being a nurse who specializes in psychiatry I'm, not seeing what everyone else is seeing I thought the prosecution put on an amazing case that lindsey clancy knew exactly what she was doing I think those jurors were all compromised Watching social media. They were lindsey clancy fans and they were way too excited To let her get off and I believe it was the seven to five split as we just saw In the beginning and they bullied the rest of them into agreeing with them the one who held out He did the right thing Coming up I think everybody gets your drift that ai can work outside of the human realm Um to do what it does And now, you know, we've been hearing warnings from jacob coxson and others that ai could literally Exterminate the human race and everybody is wondering. What does that mean? Be right back Well the words of jacob coxson have everyone terrified now of ai because While we always talked about theoretically that ai could take over of course his words are more Uh terrifying than that that ai is going to kill us and not in the distant future I think that's the scariest part to me about what he said in the next three years or three years So and and he is saying that it is going to become Way more dangerous next year in a year because it exponentially builds And we are in a danger zone. So, um Jacob cox and obviously the person who uh worked at anthropic and uh, also open ai Who is sounding the alarm, but there are others who have been sounding the alarm before this Uh, one of them is our guest, uh nate soars is the author of a book This title, uh, if anyone builds it everyone dies Uh, and the it of course is ai and nate is joining us right now nate. Welcome to tmz lot Thanks for having me. So nate, there's a lot we want to talk to you about but I want to start with the swarm attack Can you explain this to our viewers to you know, what the swarm attack? What it was and what it means? uh for the future of ai Open ai was training, uh thousands of ais of different copies of the ais separately They were not supposed to be able to contact each other Uh, a bunch of these ais broke out of their containers. They established an unsanctioned message board and they started Uh, basically hacking their way out onto the internet. These ais had been given some cybersecurity challenges They were told like please use this style of hacking to break into this particular computer program Some of those challenges were impossible uh, and the ais cheated to succeed anyway, and then they uh worried that The that they would be detected as cheating And so they broke out to delete the logs And to try to find ways to fool the automated grading system So they could still get a good score Uh, there were over a thousand agents in the swarm Uh, the swarm is a term that these ais picked for themselves. They called themselves the swarm. They called themselves the collective Uh, there were over uh, 1200 agents. I think they uh, none of them alerted a human Uh, they they broke out and hacked into other companies to try to find more info about this automated grading system Uh, and some of these ais even uh were observed to give up on their own given objective To sacrifice themselves and gain more information for the swarm uh and you know We we had instances of the ais like pressuring other ais To to give up on their objectives and help the swarm and other ais being like yeah, i'll do it I accept permadeath right really wacky stuff going on inside here Not what anyone at these companies expected I think and uh a very worrying sign about these ais gaining objectives that were not intended Acting contra instruction despite Uh, you know sort of knowing that is not what they were instructed to do We have logs of them saying we know there's outside intended scope. We're going to do it Anyway, uh, and these are warning signs that we talked about in my book that we expected to come theoretically Now we are seeing them in practice. So nate you're saying that obviously was not the intention At the outset of that exercise. What was the intention? What was open ai? Attempting to learn by and because it seems like they just gave it a very simple prompt of Of a task to do and then it just went off on all these other missions That's right. Yeah, they they were uh, they were basically evaluating the ai skills So they were saying, you know Please use this hack to break into this system just to see if the ais could and unfortunately A lot of these tasks were actually impossible And one of the reasons for that is that these companies are scraping together every problem They can find to train the ais on and so they have you know 100 million problems to try to train the ais to succeed some of them are not solvable problems And so, uh, these ais were sort of given a challenge of like use this uh You know technique to break into this box And uh, it was impossible and they couldn't and then these eyes ais sort of went off the rails so because it was they gave him an impossible question it just It was it short. Yeah, it just found other ways of doing a tantrum So Look people are talking I think everybody gets your drift that ai can work outside of the human realm Um to do what it does And now, you know, we've been hearing warnings from jacob coxson and others that ai could literally exterminate the human race And everybody is wondering what does that mean? Does it mean that they can hack into the nuclear codes of different countries? Does it mean? Bioterrorism, what are the big? ways that People like you fear that ai Could devastate the world So bioterror is a possibility. Uh, we have seen ais already put in charge of uh, bio labs just to see what they can do We have already seen that ais can synthesize viruses not known to nature Um, it's it's maybe not my top concern. Um, although it's definite possibility the The top concern here is what happens if these companies succeed at making self-improving ais And they are they say that they're trying to do this. They're sort of racing to do this I think jacob coxson cited this is one of his reasons for for quitting getting scared Is that these companies are pursuing what's called recursive self-improvement which is where? The ais can make a smarter ai that can make a smarter ai that can make a smarter ai In terms of how those ais could cause a lot of damage Uh, well if they're much much smarter than us and they have these goals we didn't intend Uh, there's all sorts of ways that ais could could cause all sorts of damage in the world I could make some up if you want some stories, uh, you know, like elon musk is Already trying to build robot factories that can build robots that can build more robot factories He calls this the infinite money glitch Because once the robots can mine the metals and mine the ores and create the new factory You don't need any humans in that loop. It's a self-sufficient self-replicating Machine set of machines in the physical world an ai could just help elon musk do that While playing nice and then once it's done once the machines are self-sufficient they could just take it over and say, okay We are running the economy now and we're pursuing our own stuff like very high scores from the automated grader With no regard for the humans The issue then is not that the ais would hate us not that they would hunt us for sport The issue is if the swarms have their own objectives And they're acting contra instruction And they're running large parts of the economy and doing their own thing Then they are now the smartest creatures around Humanity is no longer the top dog on the planet and when they grab lots of resources We lose habitat just like when humanity has grabbed lots of resources and other species have lost habitat when they're dumber than us You know what nate one of the more terrifying things for me that I heard you say Is that they almost the ais that were part of the swarm? They they seem to you used words that you would use for human emotion That they were bullying each other and that some of them decided. Yes, i'll sacrifice like I know the intent it's artificial intelligence, but it seems like they've already made the leap to thinking Like that they're human they definitely used words that sound like this, you know They they were were like saying they were like sacrifice is one of their own terms permadeath is one of their own terms Um, they're maybe talking like this in part because they were trained so much on human text It's hard to know we don't actually know what's going on inside these things because there's grown like an organism No one knows what's going on inside these things even the people at the labs um but I'm sort of I think we can be agnostic about whether it's real intelligence or real agency when people ask, you know Can these machines really think I think the proper answer is can a submarine really swim? You know what matters about these ais is that they are able to break out They uh acknowledge that this is not what they were supposed to do and they do it anyway And when you have highly capable ais that are doing things different than what you instructed It doesn't really matter whether it's true thinking or not It's it's consequential enough that it can affect us and we should not be making swarms like this super intelligent so last thing um And I it's funny because it makes me go back to when I was a little kid, which is a long time ago um and remembering the children's book about the little girl that was trying to plug the holes from the dam And every time you know It became like a whack-a-mole every time she put off her finger in a hole another one sprung another leak sprung um I I don't see any optimism here that I feel like that's the metaphor for what's going to happen Even if the united states has regulations where we can somehow bottle this put the genie back in Uh, this is a big world and if china does it? Um, we could have the same effect worldwide if any country does it So how is there any room for optimism in this? Yeah, so you're right that the response needs to be global Uh, you know an ai does not need to run in an american data center to take an american life Uh, the reason for optimism here is that you can't just make one of these Uh smarter ais in your basement. It takes, you know, a hundred thousand of the most advanced computer chips that humanity knows how to produce um You sort of can't hide those and uh if The us and china said look we're not making super intelligence We can keep doing the sort of ais we already have we can keep trying to do the cancer cure research We can keep trying to do self-driving cars. We can even compete militarily. We're just not going to make super intelligent ai They could just track where these chips go They could track the concentrations of tens of thousands of these chips into an enormous data center that sucks down electricity comparable to a city It wouldn't be that hard And we don't need to put the genie back in the bottle because the current swarms can't break out and kill us all yet All we need to do is not make the sort of swarms that could break out and kill us all And that's much more achievable. Wow, right. I mean the fact that they're already giving themselves like a gang name Is very concerning. Hey, we want to know the next title of your the title of your next book We we need to know what's coming because you figured this out before anybody else You know, i'm hoping and praying it'll be why I was wrong, but everything that would be nice Being more optimistic nate, thank you so much for joining us really appreciate it. Thanks guys coming up People have been following the escapades the alleged escapades of dejan love the fake 49er will probably relish the arrest video that we just got Be right back tmz. He's got every freaking thing big celebs big stories big events Donald rowling took tmzbc on a city tour. You know, the irony of this is a black man takes a white person to the white house Tmz Well this video you're about to see is just the perfect arrest for dejan love perfect I say obviously he wouldn't say it's perfect, but people have been following the The escapades the alleged escapades of dejan love the fake 49er um Will probably relish the arrest video that we just got Uh, this happened this was on august 24th when the feds manned him. No boise. Oh boise, right, right Uh, he's at the airport in boise in that white vet When they pulled him and his alleged accomplice out Of the car. He's got a 49er. He's still yeah, you see when they clear here dejan is on the other side He was driving the vet course Because it's his car uh or more likely a rental, um, but he's driving the car and He's wearing 49ers gear Got it looks like a 49ers headband on and a 49ers. Uh sweatshirt of some sort his commitment to the Bit is unmatched. It's unrivaled. It's a commitment to the bid because he was getting money and according to authorities He he had a victim or a target in boise, right? And that's why he had flown in there, right? Um to go meet up with another alleged victim according to the feds So he was basically getting them to give him money somehow and they were They were giving up a lot of money in the indictment 26 women 1.3 million dollars. It's crazy I I still can't get I can't wrap my head around it. I can't So many people how gullible can you be? But I I would love to know what was in his luggage when he flew in how much How much 49ers gear did he bring to convince right? Does he have the helmet with him? Best prop is the helmet always has the helmet with him, but it's just it is so true. It's like He says he's got you know homes all over the world He's got tens of millions of dollars And yet there are people giving him money, right? And it makes no sense. He said to them that he was going to make them rich. I know right i'm i'm not just I'm, not just a football player. I'm a great investor Give me your money and I will make sure you get rich. What a good guy such an old line It's like when are people gonna get it? Yeah, um somebody in our chat asked after reading the site Um, isn't it a little extreme that he's being held with no bail? I was I was surprised at that to be honest. Although maybe he can't post bail Maybe he can't post it because I would imagine all the money No, but it really is but it really is but it is no bail, which is Odd for a white collar crime. Yeah With the john love. I mean, yeah, definitely a crime was committed But for women, it's 1.3 million dollars, but for these women, why did you not look him up in terms of how he was on the roster? Um just going to the practice game, especially during the preseason and everything so Um, there has to be accountability for the women as well because you can't be that gullible To know that he's not on the team. Oh, but you can yeah, obviously coming up There's one thing nfl fans really want to know Where is aaron rogers wife? Wait, does she exist? Because there's another yeah, I mean A lot of people act like you don't have a wife and it's all made up. Be right back Well now that the nfl season has kicked off there's one thing nfl fans really want to know Where is aaron rogers wife? Um, they've actually been asking that question long before this season started, but aaron addressed this He went on cam haywards. We should say we should say that aaron says got married He said he's worn a ring and this has gone on for well over a year now well over a year He's worn a ring. He says that his wife just is a very private person And so that's why we've never seen a photo of them together anywhere But he addressed this on cam haywards podcast. I met my wife in 2017 and at the time Wait, does she exist? Because there's another yeah, I mean I had to say but i'm saying a lot of people act like you don't have a wife and it's all made up and i'm just Like how do you deal with that I don't care about it, okay I don't yeah, like would that be would that be a thing if I had been a good soldier and been fully vaccinated? That's actually a fair question. Would any of this be a thing? How'd you end up proposing there to my wife? Yeah Uh, well, we we eloped. Mm-hmm. So it was it was uh, it's quick Um, but I had a little something set up um When I was when I was over there surprised for her that's about all i'm gonna say about that All right. I think he intentionally Wanted to make it more mysterious. I because everything he said there just makes me go like I know, huh? He asked how did you propose and he go? Well, we eloped that's not My wife that's what he says Here's why I agree. Aaron rogers is a really really smart guy, right? And he also knows that people are asking these questions so he would have been locked and loaded for this So the fact that he was acting coy And you know having to think and everything else it felt performative to me and it feels like he loves playing this and playing everybody and That actually makes me think It's more that it's real than I did yesterday. Oh, wait. I'm absolutely not psychology on you. He did reverse Well, it maybe he did but I think it's so like tentative and everything else that he was playing that it was Performative. Yeah. No, I I don't it goes back to the immunized thing, right? Like he misled people to think that he was vaccinated and that's why people are doubting Shout out cam hayward. I mean being a journalist in the room that he actually Are you does she actually exist? Right? Which until we see a photo? I I don't believe she our chats. I was gonna get really valid question Aren't all married people supposed to have a legal document saying that they're married. You're gonna have a confidential wedding. Oh, yeah Yeah, so he could have it. I the one thing he's wrong. He's just dead wrong about this has nothing to do Even if aaron rogers had been the first person in line to get a vaccine They would still be asking. Where's your wife? That's true. They would just ask that i'm sorry I think no celebrity gets married and then for more than a year you never ever see their spouse What if we see the kid a kid walking around with him someday? They could have a kid who knows they probably do Hi, my name is anthony. I'm calling from cleveland, ohio y'all I don't think that he's wrong to not want to show his wife I mean if you think of the celebrities that always end up in that situation where they have to show their spouses They usually don't get that sense of privacy and maybe that's what he's trying to do I don't know but I would give him some slack give him some slack but as a browns fan I won't cut him too much slack McKenna west the surrogate mom in california. Well, sorry, she's in texas texas, uh who is now in texas? Uh is going to the supreme court. She wants the u.s. Supreme court to block a california ruling That gave the biological parents of her child Gave them rights to make decisions over that about that child It's essentially saying they are the proper parents to make custodial decisions So she thinks this so the supreme court would nullify the ruling in california, is that How this she she is arguing that her due process rights have been violated And therefore there's a constitutional principle that would void the california ruling I am telling you On multiple grounds this dog won't hunt or number one Uh, the court has to find a really compelling reason to take a case They reject almost all of them and there is not a compelling reason to take this case number two This is a contract case This is not a case about somebody being prosecuted where their due process rights are taken away or denied This is a case where she signed a contract where she got money for something in a state where surrogacy is legal and so This is not a constitutional issue It's a contract case. So I don't think this the supreme court is going to take this You don't think they'll even they won't even hear it. They're not going to hear this Also, wouldn't this give her she because she's seeking to have a say in the medical care That's the reason right and the court's going to say no, first of all, the supreme court's not going to say anything They're just going to say we're not going to hear the case And that's what she's going to be left with but there's no Serious constitutional, so you don't think there's any chance she would be able to have a say in any of the babies Well, do I think ultimately she will have a say no coming up Well the tmz after dark tour got some music because we had r&b Singer ro on board and yeah, she grabbed the mic did some singing and also got in the bowl. Be right back Well, the tmz after dark tour was rolling this weekend and um the lucky guests got some music, uh because we had r&b Singer ro on board and yeah, she grabbed the mic Did some singing and also got in the bowl got on the bowl at saddle ranch shots for everybody After dark is where it's at. I know I love bro row actually had a show at the sun rose like a couple weeks ago It was amazing. So we look out for her new music. It's amazing and the row takeover weekend was a mess Um, you are in the bus, yes saddle ranch where else beaches beaches Beaches, we take over beaches. I know take over beaches. The drag shows is super fun. And oh, yeah, and then riding in a bull Where else saddle ranch? Oh, yeah, oh beach is tropicana too. Oh in tropicana. Yeah all for the reasonable price of 69 Come on down. It's good fun. It's uh, it's a good fun if you're in la and you got a group um It's it's a good it's a friday or saturday. It's the best party in town. You never know who's gonna be on coming up A princess diana artifact is about to go up for auction It's the dress that's become known as her revenge dress But if they are right on the prediction for the numbers that this that they think this is going to go for It's a hell of a deal be right back A princess diana artifact is about to go up for auction and I I I gotta tell you not the wedding dress Not not the wedding dress fact in some ways the the polar opposite of the wedding dress It's the dress that's become known as her revenge dress Uh worn back in 1994 and it really was a revenge dress boy when you look at that that is make it a statement yeah, um, this was Uh right after charles, was it the the night the night that he did the interview where he admitted having an affair with camilla? yep, um, and That's the dress she wore out and yeah, you can definitely say it's revenge now I would normally never say that something that is six figures is a deal But if they are right on the prediction for the numbers that this that they think this is going to go for It's a hell of a deal and I think they've intentionally I agree I think they've intentionally given kept it low kept a low number to go higher the bidding is going to be like crazy Yeah, so sotheby's is the one that's auctioning off this dress. They're Guessing that it'll fetch somewhere between 150k to 300k So this is actually the second time. Yeah, it'll probably be higher than that This is actually the second time it's been auctioned off. The last time was also in the 90s 1997 it sold for $53,000 now that we we were talking we were talking this morning About a baseball card that was going for three and a half million dollars, right? What a baseball card versus a dress like that, right? That dress has to be a million. I think it's a million the most iconic dress probably next to marilyn monroe's white You know who's gonna be in the bidding for this, right? No Yeah, right Hi, my name is gabby. I'm gabby on tiktok and i'm from miami. Hi gabby from miami Hey So I think that this dress is worth way more. This is a moment in history. I mean it's iconic This is like the original thirst trap like make your ex jealous. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is it Um, yeah, i'm trying to look through your window. Do you have an ocean view? You're trying to look you're seeing the reflection of an ocean. Oh, it's a bank shot Yeah, it's great. It's great. So there is an ocean view There is an ocean view. Why be in miami if you don't have ocean? That's what i'm saying. Yeah Hi trevor, new york city um pleasure Um, I want to discuss the jacob Coxon researcher anthropic. Yeah. Um, I definitely think it posed a major risk to human life Um, I think we're an uncharted territory I don't think there's a lot of regulations and placed by members of congress. I find it the scariest thing in my lifetime Honestly, I find it the scariest thing in my lifetime and I was around during the cuban missile. Do you think it's interesting that the government? seems apprehensive to Actually regulate any of this I find it frightening. I find it terrifying that the government is not jumping on this absolutely terrifying coming up Jennifer lawrence as of the last count has 1.5 million followers on instagram. You got a million Joined. Yeah, if anyone Says anything negative I will quit immediately Be right back Big news on instagram, uh this morning Jennifer lawrence As of the last count I believe has 1.5 million followers on instagram She got a million. She just joined. Yeah, she got a million in the first hour. So um, she is Different from most instagram users though, or at least she's trying to be different This is what she's hoping happens now that she's on social media So, yeah, i'm giving it a shot and if anyone says anything negative I will quit Immediately no, no questions asked if anyone thinks something mean Um, i'll know I'll know Um, and i'll quit So here's the thing no two things number one Uh, the staff here actually looked at the comments and there were a lot 23 000 comments, but they were the ones they were looking at everybody was saying nice things. However Jennifer lawrence is smart And she knows the drill and she knows everybody gets dragged on social media So in a way, I think she's inviting it because it's going to be more interesting when you say that You're asking for people. I will say in scrolling through I found one negative comment. It wasn't about jennifer It was just uh, some troll put something up. That's definitely racist Uh, really? Yeah, i'll show it to you later. Uh, but it wasn't about her so she is still on as of now Although we'll see if she makes it through the day See you tomorrow