TMZ Live - 11/6/26

Welcome to TMZ live. This is a shocker. The FBI has arrested Meghan Markle's father, Thomas Markle, for a possession of child pornography. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to challenge you on that. I do not think it's shocking at all. From the moment the Philippines officials started their investigation and made it clear that the FBI was involved here. I kind of assumed it was just going to be a matter of time before the FBI found something. Can I tell you what's shocking? That now there is... Child pornographic material in the Philippines. There is child pornographic material in an abandoned storage locker in Mexico. And now there is an abandoned, or not even abandoned, there is a storage locker, a current storage locker in the United States. There are three storage lockers, but in three different countries. That's stunning to me. That is stunning to me. He is now under arrest. Actually, he was at an assisted living home in a wheelchair, and he was wheeled out by the FBI early this morning. The FBI went into the retirement community in Lakeland, Florida, and brought Thomas Markle out in his wheelchair. Thank you so much for your time here today. And I'll see you in the next video. Weird to, you know, see the FBI swarming around a retirement home, but that's what happened this morning, and now he is in custody, and they say that he's in possession of... Uh, material that shows child abuse, um, and pornographic, uh, scenarios as well. Oh, yeah. I mean, they found boxes and boxes of things over in Los Angeles, as well as the Philippines and Mexico, but what they found in, in, uh, Los Angeles, two different storage units. One of them, they pulled, um, uh, 27 items, including slides, film negatives, books, and And a bunch of different things that are depicting kids that were. Possibly under the age of 10 years old. Now, were there photos of Thomas himself? So, it was unclear if there was an adult with a child that was unclosed. Now, it wasn't perfectly clear with his face in the image, but they did get a friend that this person, unidentified, did say that that is Thomas in the pictures. According to the FBI. According to the FBI and what the FBI came out with. Again, the second unit that they did pull things from, 51 items, very similar situation where they grabbed cameras, they grabbed footage, they grabbed negatives, where they developed that and saw this child pornography. And I think it's interesting, like you said, this is not an abandoned, this was a place that he was still paying. He was paying, so we're talking four, at least, we don't know, there may be more storage lockers, but the fact that he's got four storage lockers in three different countries. So this actually now goes all the way back. To 2019, when Meghan and Harry were getting married. Actually, 2018. 2018. When Meghan and Harry were getting married, and Meghan was given a heads up that... By British authorities. By British authorities. Who had gotten tipped by, I believe it was The Sun, right? Yeah. That had tipped them that there was some... He wrote a letter. That he was in possession of these things. And what was also interesting is the fact that she was not really talking to her dad at the time because of the fact that there was allegedly, he set up paparazzi right before them getting married. We all thought that that was the only reason for the rift. Megan, a couple weeks ago, is saying today. There may have been two things. And that's what she said a couple weeks ago when the Philippines thing first came out, that she had been made aware of this. You know, that he may have had this stuff and that she decided to distance from him. And then made it clear that he would never see her grandchildren. Right. And so that kind of ruminated in England because there's really nothing British authorities could do because none of this, at least as far as we know, relates to England. But it was interesting how the FBI jumped on this when they found out about the Philippines. And then they started digging in the United States, including Los Angeles, which is where he was living. Thank And and they rooted this up. And we don't know. Listen, there are four storage lockers. There could be five storage lockers. What I also thought was interesting you when he was getting arrested at the assisted living is actually he was asked to leave a rehab center. very So we all remember what that he got his leg amputated and that that's why he had to come back to the Philippines. But he was staying at a rehab center. much. When these allegations came out about the Philippines, the rehab center actually asked him to leave. And that's when he started staying at the assisted living. It would be interesting to know why the rehab center said leave. That would be interesting. Yeah, and Mary in the chat is wondering, how did the authorities catch on to him? And how did this all get? Well, they caught on to him because his son blew the whistle that he had this kind of material in the Philippines. But now the son is now under investigation too. That's right. The son is now investigation in the Philippines. So, wow. Hi, I'm Roseanne in the Catskill Mountains of New York, and I am highly disturbed by the comments and allegations against Thomas Markle Sr., particularly the timeline and how long, how many people have known about this, because the two storage lockers in. In. L.A. and the storage locker in Mexico and in the Philippines depicting at least over seventy five hundred images of abused and exploited children is not the sick lies that Thomas Markle said they are because the police and the FBI had probable cause to arrest him And hearing that he was asked to leave his facility. And, and what is the reason behind this? How, how deep does this go? We don't know. And I mean, look, there's no way of knowing because number one, the FBI might not even know because they're still doing investigating. Right. And, and we don't know if that's the end of the materials that were stored. We also don't know what defense, if any, he's going to offer to the charges he's clearly going to be facing. But wow, it is, it looks really bad, right? Yeah. Boy, talk about treading on dangerous turf. Yes, Taylor Swift is causing a huge rift among the NBA champions. Oh, you're blaming it on her? Yeah, it's Taylor Swift's fault. You remember she was at Game 4 last year during the NBA Finals cheering on the Knicks. Very exciting. It was an epic game. And ever since then, there's been this dialogue about whether or not Taylor Swift is really a Knicks fan. Or was she just there for show? Well, two of the Knicks players were sitting down for an NBA 2K chat. Tyler Kolek, who is the backup point guard, and Donte DiVincenzo, another backup point guard. One of them was very, very honest about his feelings about Taylor Swift, and it has caused a rift now between the players and the Knicks organization itself. I think scared the Knicks organization. Somebody's running scared. Maybe everybody is. But here's what they said about Taylor. Who's the fakest celeb fan you've seen sitting courtside in an NBA game? At the Knicks games, I would say it's very performative because, like, they just want to be seen at the game. They're not necessarily fans. Maybe Taylor Swift. I would agree. I don't know if I've seen her at any of the games. Yeah, Swifties are not going to like that answer. Yeah, no, I'm going to get some hate from the Swifties. Everybody else is usually solid, like, you know, like Ben Stiller, Tracy. Like, those are, those are. I guess she's got a lot going on, so she can't come all the time. He's trying to save his ass. It's a little performative. Wow. Can I just say, wow. He was so quick to say, I agree. I agree. But then what else did he realize? I think that means they talk about it. Yes, the players definitely talked about it that night and probably ever since. You could tell. What's even more interesting than what they said is how quickly. The Knicks organization, their own team, said forget about those guys. We don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, they literally did, Charles. They reached out to us. I didn't reach out, didn't ask any questions. They reached out to us. Did the players say what they said? It's the only time I can ever remember the Knicks proactively reaching out and it was over Taylor Swift. And what did they say? We have the statement here. Do we have it? Okay. Taylor Swift has been a Knicks fan for many years. Has a long history with Madison Square Garden. And we are incredibly appreciative of her support of the organization. I have never seen anything like this ever. That the organization would come out and say, you put this out right now. I mean, the question is, why? You know why. No, because she got married there, and she paid a lot of money. And not just that. Taylor Swift liking a team brings all these new fans. Look what she did for the Chiefs and the NFL. She got that for the Knicks. Do you think that somebody from the front office called in Deuce and Tyler and said, let me explain something to you two guys, all right? Yeah. All right? You're sitting on the bench over there, but let me tell you what people are tuning in for. Not for you. They're tuning in for the celebrities on Celebrity Row. Are they going to get fined? It's fine. It may be a quiet. Right. Maybe it's just, give me those rings back. Right, right. Give me those rings. It is shocking that the power she has, that the organization would jump and call you. I was shocked. Never seen anything like it. Any doubt how powerful she was. Listen, money talks. Yeah. You know what walks. Yeah, and it's walking now. She got a lot of it. Hi, this is Hannah from Boston. I don't think it's fair for her to be called performative for going to a Knicks game. She lived in New York for many years. She loves New York. And I think she should be able to go to a game with her friends without being criticized for it. She has every right to go to the game. You're right. But the players were just voicing their opinion about who was there during the playoffs. And the Knicks said, how dare you? How dare they? The big question is, what do the Democrats do with this huge lead that they have? The Democratic agenda that is putting money back in people's pockets, dealing with the issues that the Democrats have been hired to do, and not getting lost in some of the other kind of shiny objects. Be right back. Well, on the heels of what was an absolutely historic election, The big question is, what do the Democrats do with this huge... A lead that they have, not just in the House, but clearly after the numbers, you see that the government, that the country wants the Democrats to lead. And will that continue in two years when it's time to elect a new president? One of the people who is, we think, going to be in the conversation about who becomes the next president. And who is prominent in the polls. Yes, clearly the polls want him to. We'll see if he's on board with that. Is Pete Buttigieg, former transportation secretary and someone who was out stumping for the Democrats. So he's got to be happy with the results of what happened this week. And now we're going to talk to him about... Two years from now. Pete, welcome back to TMZ Live. Hey, thanks. Excited to be with you. We are excited to have you. So I want to start with the present. And it's something that is really confusing me. So there is this push now to impeach Pete Hegseth. And there is a resolution and it could pass as early as next week in the House. It could quickly go over to the Senate. I don't understand why this isn't more of a long play for the Democrats, because if Hegseth goes before January, Trump can get a new guy in that may not be to the liking of Democrats and Democrats won't have a say in the Senate because they're in the minority until until January. So why not sit back and wait? Until you get power. I don't know all the ins and outs there. Obviously, anybody that the president is going to put into that role, probably not somebody that Democrats are going to love. Although, remember, in the past, there were credible figures like General Mattis, people who had an extraordinary military record and reviewed as nonpartisan. Now, it's more kind of a Trump one thing than a Trump two thing. But look, the bottom line here is. The Iran war has been such a drag on the country's safety, on everyday life in this country. And Pete Hegseth was a Fox News character who got put in charge of the most important organization in the world, which is the American military, and has made it clear again and again that he has no business in that leadership role. And I think part of what you're also seeing is that Republicans are fed up with him. But if they think that tossing him to the wolves is This is going to satisfy the American Public about the bigger picture here and the broader failures that start with President Trump himself. They are probably on the wrong track. Bottom line for my dime is not all Secretary Pete's are alike. This is a guy who just never had any business in this job. I think the American people can see it. As a retired member of the military, how do you feel about the triumphal arc going up in D.C. At the gates of Arlington National Cemetery. The idea of putting that in the shadow of a monument to the ego of a president who used his father's connections to get out of serving when it was his turn as a millionaire teenager is a pretty disgusting thing to contemplate. That being said, the biggest thing we need to focus on now, obviously, when it comes to the military, is this war in Iran that's going on right now. There will be plenty enough time later for dealing with the president's architectural ambitions. Right now, we got to make sure that we keep this country safe, and the war in Iran has made America less safe. Okay, so 2028. I was fascinated by this and thought about you this morning when Congressman Jim Clyburn had an interesting thought. and said, you know, we should be looking at governors because they have executive experience. I found that interesting for a couple of reasons. One, there's a guy named Pete Buttigieg who also has executive experience running a department. And that seems to align, although he didn't say it. But number two. I think there's something to it. I run a company that's got a couple hundred people, and sometimes it is a nightmare, and it takes time to learn how to do it. And it took me a long time, and I bet it took you a long time too. So does Representative Clyburn know of what he speaks when he says that maybe senators are not the best people to look at because they haven't run stuff? I think he makes a really important point. Look, I learned so much being the mayor of my city that I never would have known until I did that. And then when I went from running a 1,000-person organization that was the city administration to the U.S. Department of Transportation with tens of thousands of employees and a budget of $150 billion, which is bigger than the GDP of most countries, there's just things you learn about how the world works and how government works and even things you learn about yourself. That are different than what you learn from being in politics in a different way. And it's a funny thing about our system. There are senators, members of Congress who. are very senior, who are nationally known, but who have never in their lives managed more than a few dozen people. And I do think there's just a different mentality sometimes between somebody who has legislated, somebody who has led an organization. And of course, there's plenty of people out there who've done both. So you have the experience. How are you feeling now about the run? I know you've been asked several times this year, and you said that you're open I'm open to anything. Do the results of the election this week make you feel stronger one way or another? Well, they're definitely encouraging. You know, I think there are some folks who maybe were waiting for election day to come and then within days of that, they'd be making national announcements. I'm not going to be one of those people. You're not going to see me making some kind of big announcement in the next few weeks. There's time enough for that. One focus I have right now is as we prepare to have this new majority, we've got to make Make sure that we use it well, which is why I really am. Pressing both in public and in private the importance of a Democratic agenda that is putting money back in people's pockets, dealing with the issues that the Democrats have been hired to do, and not getting lost in some of the other kind of shiny objects that come along in political life when we have a chance here to show the country what Democrats are about. Yeah, I want to talk about the Democratic Party. Can I, would you mind, can I give you a personal opinion and I want to see how you react? You know, there has been this wave of anti-Semitism across the country, and there has been some of it in the Democratic Party that has made Jews, some of them feel, you know, uncomfortable at various levels. I really doubt, personally doubt, that a Jew can become the nominee of the Democratic Party for president. And I'm talking about John Ossoff and Governor Shapiro. And I say that because I'm thinking about the primary debates. And somebody is going to say to them, Everybody who believes that the Jews, that Israel committed genocide in the Gaza War, raise your hand. And I see questions like that being asked and disqualifying Jews. And I think there is an element of that in the party that would make it almost impossible for anybody who is Jewish. To get the nomination. So I hear you. I know where that comes from. But I don't share that pessimism. Look, there is no denying that there's been an explosion of anti-Semitism around the world and in the United States. We've seen it on the far right. And we've seen it in some corners of the left as well. But another thing I would say is that I think it is absolutely possible to be critical of the actions and choices of the Israeli government and also to be absolutely full-throated and And one hundred percent clear. That anti-Semitism is intolerable. And, you know, one thing I've noticed is that some of the most eloquent and important voices criticizing Israel's conduct of the war have been Jewish voices. And many of those have been voices from within the Democratic Party. And by the way, mine too, in terms of the way Netanyahu handled it. Exactly. So, look, I know this is a painful issue and I think it will continue to be in our coalition, but I think that there will be many leaders who manage to hold space for multiple things that are true at the same time. Concern, more than concern, anger over the choices of the Netanyahu government. Thank Israel's conduct of the war and a commitment to the safety of the Israeli people and a commitment to the dignity and safety and human rights of Palestinian people you and clarity that all forms of hate, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia very and any other form of hate has no business being on American soil. I know that sounds like a lot to handle. It is a lot to handle. much. All of those things are correct. All of those things are true. It has to be the case that all of those things can be compatible, too. And I'm drawn to leaders who have a way of voicing that. And I think Jewish leaders and not only Jewish leaders will be capable of rising to that challenge in our political life, both right now in Congress and then I trust in the presidential debates, too. All right. Well, we got one more question. Come on. How are the kids? They're great. We had a great Halloween. Halloween, um... I think it took a day or two for the sugar to kind of work its way through their system. By the way, how old will they be in, say, two years? Oh, geez. Well, they're five now, so I guess they'll be seven. Seven. All right. You got some interesting decisions to make. We do. But, you know, every family has a lot to balance, and we're no exception. Hey, we so appreciate you coming back. Really appreciate it. Same here. Great seeing you guys. Thanks, Pete. Good seeing you, Pete. Take care. See ya. Coming up. Can two guys that successful really do an entire tour together without egos coming into it? They've actually done pretty well up until last night in Atlanta and egos were flaring. Like, you know what, be right back. TMZ's got every freakin' thing! Big celebs, big stories, big events! Donald Rawlings took TMZ DC on a city tour. You know what the irony of this is? A black man takes a white person to the White House. How was that? It's TMZ! I think a lot of people would've said they saw this coming. Um, Usher and Chris Brown have been on tour, and right from the start, we're like, can two guys that successful... Really do an entire tour together without egos coming into it. Without like an oasis moment. They've actually done pretty well up until last night in Atlanta and egos were flaring. Like a you-know-what. And it actually led to a lot of fans noticed this, that something was just off once they finally did get on stage. And by the way, they didn't start. They were hours late in starting, though there's an explanation for that. But just listen to how Usher addressed the crowd when he came out. By the way, he came out second. Chris performed first, then Usher. And yet, listen to what he said when he came out. I'm sorry, my show? Chris Brown, I'm sure, is backstage going, whose show? This is our show. Well, isn't the second person the headliner? Well, they go back and forth as to who opens first, but what happened last night had a lot to do with the fact that the arena was basically empty. Uh, when... When... They were supposed to start. Now, this is 30 minutes. This is allegedly 30 minutes prior to the set time that the concert's supposed to start. We should say we've been told that in Atlanta there was a very bad car accident where the police... Their roads closed outside the arena. They had to close the road, so it was very hard for fans to get to the arena at the right time. If you've been to Atlanta, you already know Atlanta traffic without road closures is diabolical. What does that have to do with Chris? So, what happens backstage... We're getting there. And. Chris is supposed to go out and perform first. Chris wants to just go. He wants to get the show going. We're told. No, no, no, no. Usher wants to get the show going, and Chris is like, why would I do that? Because there's no one there. Oh, because Usher's like, yeah, Chris, you go out and do the empty arena, and by the time I come out, it'll be full. Essentially, that's what it is. Selfish. That's not, he just wanted, well, they're basically saying Usher wanted to keep the things on as track because Atlanta also has a 12 o'clock ordinance. They got pissed off because Usher wanted Chris to go out and he wasn't going to be performing to a lot of people and it looks bad. Chris is like, I'm not doing that. But then when Usher comes out, all these people are there. Essentially, that's what you could say, what Chris would say. I am team Chris. Wow, that's a first. You're never team Chris. And ironically, like, I'm like, so the other thing is they. During this tour, they do actually do some songs together. Usually, how many, like two or three songs? Yeah, like at least two, three, maybe four. They definitely do multiple numbers together. Well, last night they did one song together. Oh. And the show ended earlier than... And the one song is like... I got a triple, triple check that they even did that one song together. Did Chris Brown ever react to what Usher said when he said, Welcome to my show? I mean, we don't know what he said backstage, but what he did do is comment on social media and put, the internet is capped, don't fall for it. But this is the only issue with that, Chris, is because if you remember back in 2023, when Usher had his birthday party at the Roller Wink, they got into a fight there. They literally got into a physical altercation at his birthday party. Which is why everyone thought them going on tour together was going to blow up. Was going to blow up. And Oasis got through it and they didn't. By the way, we should say, it's not like the tour is... You know, derailed now. They're still going to complete the tour together. Yep. No one's talking about that. What's your theory? I have a theory. What's your theory? That... Usher is still butthurt when that woman came up and said, I really would rather have been on TV. No, Usher just wanted to have... He made that a thing. And the next time he wanted to make sure... Everyone's forgotten about that. It's his hometown. He just wanted some respect. The chat's wondering, they have another show in Atlanta tonight. Do you guys think they're going to address this internet feud or just going to pretend nothing ever happened? If it simmers, it's going to boil. Well, we've been told that there are still tensions. They're tension on both sides. What kind of metaphor is that? It's a good metaphor. When something's simmering, at a point it starts to boil. Not necessarily to turn down the heat. But we know that there's still tension. They're not used to turning down heat. So... And those guys don't seem like they're going to turn anything down. Check TMZ.com tomorrow morning. First thing. Coming up. Congressman Don Beyer, we told you that he is vehemently opposed to the triumphal arc that President Trump wants to build just outside Arlington National Cemetery. Listen, he is planning a very 60s-like protest. Be right back. Welcome back to TMZ Live. There is one person in the D.C. area who has taken it back to the 60s. That's the way you see this? It is. I think that's, I mean, there have been a lot of protests since the 60s, but I get it. You like to hold on to it like you guys created it. Magical moment for me. We're talking about Congressman Don Beyer. We told you that he is vehemently opposed to the triumphal arc going up that President Trump wants to build. Just outside Arlington National Cemetery. And he represents that district that includes Arlington National Cemetery. Now, since we spoke to Don about this, and he is planning a very 60s-like protest. But since then, there's been a big development that a judge, a federal judge. Has blocked any construction of the arch for at least 14 days. There'll be a hearing at that point. But I don't think that's going to change Don's protest plans. Because we should say protest plans that includes getting arrested for civil disobedience and a sleeping bag, putting a sleeping bag on that ground so that they cannot dig it up and build that arch. And there's a good reason he's doing that. So joining us right now is the congressman himself, Don Beyer. Welcome to TMZ Live. Thank you very much. I'm thrilled to get the invitation to talk to you. Well, we're really honored that you're talking to us. So You know, I am a child of the 60s, and I have seen these protests. They can change hearts and minds, but they don't necessarily change the result you're looking for. So if you get hauled off, it's not going to stop Trump from doing what he wants to do, at least the way I see it. What say you? Well, we're relying on the courts and so far, and we hope that Trump will obey the courts. But, you know, I actually had the pleasure of sitting in front of John Lewis for two years on the House Ways and Means Committee, one of my great heroes. And he always said, look for good trouble. You know, maybe when he crossed the Edmund Pettus Bridge and got arrested and got beat up, it didn't change everything right away. But we just elected four black governors the other night. I'm including a black woman governor in Georgia. So what John Lewis did all those years ago did make a difference. I certainly don't want to compare our little protest to what he the civil rights movement. But but there's an example there that we something we don't like in public policy. We have a responsibility to stand up and protest. So you mentioned that we mentioned the judge has stayed this for 14 days. But you mentioned something that we've been talking about this morning. Will the president obey that? We'll Will you be out there protesting, out there in a sleeping bag, sleeping on the ground where they plan to break ground? be Are you going to go ahead and do that just in case the president says, screw that, I'm right not going to listen to the judge, and let's get construction going? Well, certainly if there's any indication that he plans to move forward, we will be there. back. And I won't be by myself, by the way. Everybody I've talked to about it in Northern Virginia is eager to come join me. And we hope to have people there, not just in the morning and the afternoon, but 24 hours a day. As we know from the East Wing of the White House, they can do evil things in the middle of the night. Yeah. And you know what? The Supreme Court has said that Donald Trump has immunity from prosecution for whatever he does. And even though he's lost control of Congress, he is not slow to use executive power, even if it's stretched beyond the limits. So what you talk about, which is, you know, digging things up in the middle of the night, that's real. It's very real. In fact, there's so many of us, you know, he put his name on the Kennedy Center and then when the judge decided that he had to take it off, he literally said that if they can't put the name on the Kennedy Center, I will demolish it. That's a quote. And so there are many of us who are ready to just watching the Kennedy Center day and night for the bulldozers to show up. So I'm curious if you are opposed to the idea of the arch altogether of the Triumphal Arch Or are you only opposed to that location? Well, especially that location because of the, you know, the 40,000 men and women buried there, including my parents, my grandparents, my sister. You know, it's a sacred place. However, I still am against the notion of building an arch to one man's ego. You know, normally we honor people for their lovely service, their distinguished service after they're dead and gone. George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson. Rarely do we build statues to people While they're still alive. Especially this president. So do you think this is going to make a difference? I mean, look, I think these protests are meaningful. But do you think, you know, if for whatever reason, either the court backs off or Donald Trump does it anyway, is this symbolic or do you think it can actually make a difference? I think it definitely can make a difference. And because it's symbolic, we just look at Gandhi or Martin Luther King Jr. They were big fans of civil disobedience in order to establish what the future should be. And you know there is a free India right now. We have made, we're not perfect, but we've made enormous progress in civil rights in America. So yes, this is not as big a deal. This is just an arch, but I think this is our opportunity to stand up. Well, and I know you say it's just an arch, but I think, and I'm sure you've heard from constituents, it's more about the cemetery and what a sacred place that is. And that there have got to be so many families who are not only, who don't live in Virginia, but have loved ones laid to rest there who gave their lives for this country. So I would imagine that you're hearing a lot of support from people even outside of Virginia. And this is very unifying. It's every Democrat I talk to, every Republican I talk to. I love the picture you just put up because you notice that every gravestone at Arlington is exactly the same. Different names, of course, but there's no bigger stone for a general and a smaller one for a seaman or a private. So the notion of an arch. You know, we talked yesterday about how the Arc de Triomphe in Paris has the names engraved on it of the generals and admirals that fought in the world wars. And ours would have the name of a draft dodger. So the last thing we want to do is build a huge monument to somebody so out of scale with the people who actually gave their lives for our country. Well, we are going to be watching. You have your sleeping bag upstairs? I do, I do. Right in Rome? A number of Congresses hiked the whole Appalachian Trail, so I've used that sleeping bag a lot. Okay. This is not performative. By the way, if you go in the middle of the night, that means Charlie and or Jacob will be out there in the middle of the night, too. Absolutely. Great. Well, we'll have the flashlights for you. Okay. Congressman, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Thank you very much. So Martha Stewart has flip-flop, flip-flop, and flipped. She's owned it and said, -"I'm sorry, I was stupid. That's it." -"On our way out of the Today Show, our camera person gets Martha, and now, oh, my God, be right back. So Martha Stewart has flip, flop, flip, flop, and flipped over this whole Halloween costume where she came as a homeless person. You remember that the first thing she did was she posted the picture. And people are thinking, this is tone-deaf. Totally tone-deaf, yes. And by the way, tone-deaf is exactly what it was. But remember, she said at the time that she was trying to raise awareness for homeless people, which made no sense. Right, and then she told a different version when she was in Florida earlier this week. So now she goes back. And in Florida, she's like, she says, I just had hot chocolate spilled on me. Craig Melvin from the Today Show spilled this coffee on me. And I didn't have time to get a costume. I had 10 minutes. So I dressed as a bum, she said. So Craig Melvin is like, what the hell do I have to do with this? So Martha was back on the Today Show this morning, sitting in the hot seat with Craig Melvin. And now this is the story she is telling. I didn't have a costume because you had spilled some chocolate on my white sweater, and I don't blame you at all. It was a joke that I said I blamed you. It was stupid. And then I, tone deaf or whatever I was, according to my grandson, I was tone deaf. Why was I dragged into it? Oh, no, I was making a joke. I was giving a talk, and I just made a joke that you would spill chocolate on me, and so I couldn't wear that costume, which I had planned to wear on Halloween night to this party. But to be clear, there was no connection between that and the costume later. Oh, no. Okay. Oh, no, no, no. What lessons learned? Yeah. Pay closer attention to social issues, and I care desperately about all the problems facing us, but... I made a mistake. I mean, I mean, I was stupid. So the funniest thing, the funniest thing about this is Craig Melvin was just determined to get it out there. I had nothing to do with this. Hysterical. So now she's, she actually said that the Today Show appearance was like a day before the costume. So it wasn't like she needed to do it. There was no connection at all. So she's now clarified things. And she said, look, it was tone deaf. She's owned it and said, I'm sorry, I was stupid. That's it. On our way out of the Today Show, our camera person gets Martha, and now... Oh, my God. It's flipping harder than Texas. Why did the story change initially? I know you said it was for homeless awareness. It is. So you stick by that story? It's a complicated story, my dear. I appreciate you. Was that an apology to Craig, or were you guys just hanging out and doing a segment? Thank you. Well, Ms. Stewart, we always appreciate you. Thank you for your time. So she's still clinging to the first thing, to the awareness, to the first thing, which is the homeless awareness. So she's told five different stories. And I got an email from somebody connected to Martha the other day. And it said, she's 85 years old. Give the woman a break. But she keeps doing this. Flip, flop, flip, flop, flip. Hello, it's Manny from Atlanta. And I do agree, this lady is 85 years old. She was caught trying to clean it up. Craig said, not today, baby. Y'all don't get that up out of here. I was not involved with any of that. But let's just be happy it's just tone deaf and this lady isn't actually deaf being the age she is. Let's redirect that anger from an 85-year-old to the 80-year-old who is in that office and the actual reason people are homeless, okay? I figured it was going to get back to Trump. I got to say, Martha Stewart is awesome. I mean, what she's done in her lifetime in terms of just building a career. Just this week? Well. Coming up. So guess what I got here. What do you got there? I got the winner of our week-long contest. Our 24 hours in Vegas takeover. And one of them is going to get a $20,000 gift package to the F1 Grand Prix in Vegas. The winner is... Be right back. So guess what I got here. What do you got there? I got the winner of our week-long contest. Our 24 hours in Vegas takeover. Between Chris, Luca, and Talia. And one of them is going to get a $20,000 gift package to the F1 Grand Prix in Vegas. And what we did this week is we had sent them to Vegas for 24 hours. And we wanted you guys, everybody in the audience, to vote. On who had the most awesome 24 hours. We showed you the hotels they stayed in. We showed you their experiences. And we showed you the nightlife. And everybody voted. They voted on TMZ.com. They voted on our social channels. And we have a winner. We do. We do. What do you think? How confident? Extremely confident really Chris. Yeah. No, never been more sure of anything in my life. Harvey came here, I agree, came here. Sure that you won or sure that someone else? No, two of you guys, two of you guys. Need to clarify Two of you guys are full of it. Okay, the winner is... Can you be trusted? Oh, oh there you go, you can't. Oh, you trying to get me to get a paper cut Cut. What's happening here? Hundred man. Here we go. 20,000 And the winner is... Oh yeah! Twenty thousand, Talia! Great work. Women can do anything. Who, more than... 45,000 people voted. Who are you taking? I will be taking my mom. Hi, Mom. Aw. Shout out Sarah Block. Shout out Sarah Block. Sarah deserves it. I'm still chaperoning, though. Oh, not fun anymore. Congrats, Talia. Good job, Talia. Good job, the champion. Girl power. Competition coming up An awesome lesson in parenting here from Bill Skarsgård. He was on the Happy, Sad, Confused podcast and talked about how he's worked his movie characters into keeping his kids in line. Be right back. Yeah. All right, an awesome lesson in parenting here from Bill Skarsgård. He was on the Happy, Sad, Confused podcast and talked about how he's worked his movie characters into keeping his kids in line. I would imagine you're not doing, like, your Pennywise voice in the company of your children. Have they heard you do Pennywise? Yeah, if they misbehave, you know? Yeah, he can slip out there, yeah. He can slip in, slip out, and the Nosferatu can pop in. You know, there's a whole colorful bunch of schizophrenic daddy. Because the kids know it's him doing it, they would probably laugh. No, but you turn off the lights, and then you do it. And then you really get some results. Better. Yes. Better. Okay. That'll do it. Have a great weekend. We'll see you Monday.