“If people weren’t brainwashed into thinking religion is awful and is for dummies, religion would be the first thing every single pro-human, anti-depression group would advocate.” In Part II of PragerU Master’s Program, exclusively on DailyWire+, Dennis Prager contends that the rise of secular extremism has led to the death of communal life, and by extension, our happiness. Even though it is a fact that actively religious people are significantly happier than secular people, the true calamity is that people still reject it to their detriment.
If people were not brainwashed into
thinking religion is awful and is for
dummies, religion would be the first
thing every single
pro-human
anti-depression
group would advocate.
Hi there and welcome back or welcome to
I'm Dennis Prager and this is part two
of what I consider The most important
subject of our time, the consequences of
secularism.
What has happened with the death of the
god of the western world, the god of the
Bible specifically, and the death of
Christianity and of Judeo-Christian
values?
Next, consequence of secularism.
The death of communal life. You may not
have thought of that one, but I have a
very simple way of illustrating this.
What secular groups get together on a
weekly basis? Name me one. I'll give you
I'll give you a moment to think about
it.
Cuz religious people do.
I get together with my community every
Sabbath. Both my friends on Friday night
for my Shabbat Sabbath meal. Saturday
afternoon I go to synagogue. I am
communally based even during the
lockdowns
during co every Friday night from week
number three I was with about a dozen
friends every single Friday night from
my Shabbat Sabbath dinner while people
were locked in their homes depressed and
alone I was with a community but now
let's drop lockdowns just in regular
life so I have community at least every
single week. So do Christians who go to
church. They have a community every
single week.
Give me a secular equivalent of a weekly
meeting with people 52 times a year. I
cannot think of one.
There used to be people would be members
of Rotary clubs, Lions clubs, Kowanas
clubs, but these things too are fading
in our secularized era. Where is the
community?
People need communities. The the
existence of non-governmental
communal organizations
was the great strength that Alexis
Dtoqueville, the most brilliant observer
of American life in the early 19th
century, observed. All these
non-governmental organizations in
America, the places where Americans got
together with other Americans, even that
is a calamity of the secular age in
which we live. People do need people,
but secular people think that because
they don't need God, it won't have any
impact on how much they relate to
people. But here's an irony.
A healthy God-based life is a much more
humanbased life. a life with other
humans.
Every single poll, all secular
organizations,
Gallup, Pew Research, universities, it's
as close to unanimous as polling can
get. Actively religious people are
happier than secular people. So, of
course, the secular have an answer.
Well, they have this crutch
called God, and that that makes them
happier. I love when when God is called
a crutch. Let's say a person has a
skiing accident, breaks his ankle,
breaks her ankle, needs a crutch. So,
it's obvious the person needs a crutch
because they have a broken ankle. What
if we have a broken temperament, a
broken conscience?
Maybe we need the co so-called crutch
called God.
That's right. We need a religion. We
need a religious community. We need the
meaning. We need all of these things to
be happy. And religion gives them all.
And secularism gives none of them.
That's a big problem.
Big problem.
Happiness is is an incredibly important
part of life. So let me give you some
data from the National Institutes of
Health, National Library of Medicine.
Data suggests that adherence to
religious beliefs is associated with
lower rates of suicide. Would you say
that that's significant?
A number of factors have been
hypothesized to explain this
association, including enhanced social
support,
less substance abuse, and lower rates of
psychopathology.
That's all
that's all religion gives you. Let's
review that. Enhanced social support,
less substance abuse, and lower rates of
psychopathology.
That's pretty pretty powerful. By the
way, this doesn't mean that religion is
true. That's right. You can have your
beliefs on on what religion is true or
any religion is true. I understand that.
This is not a talk about how true
religion is. It is about the
consequences of the death of religion
and they are completely and totally
neistic and destructive to the
individual and to society. greater rates
of psychopathology, greater substance
abuse and and more suicide. Ah, but who
needs it? A 2016 study published by
JAMAMA Psychiatry, JAMAMA is the Journal
of the American Medical Association,
found that American women who attended a
religious service at least once a week
were five times less likely to commit
suicide. This was study of 90,000 women
over 14 years.
five times less likely to commit
suicide. By the way, I wouldn't care if
you decided to go to church or synagogue
just because you if somebody said, "Why
are you going to church?" He said, "Cuz
I'm five times less likely to commit
suicide.
Be fine with me." Or, "I'm much less
likely to abuse drugs or alcohol."
What's wrong? It's fine with me. I don't
think you need a road to Damascus and
and you discover God and that's why you
go to church. go to church or synagogue.
Maybe then you'll discover God or study
the Bible, which is my favorite way.
Whatever it might be,
the benefits are staggering
and the negative consequences are also
staggering of the death of all of this.
Here's another one.
Decades of research indicate that a
higher level of religious involvement is
associated with a reduced likelihood of
abusing alcohol or drugs.
Here's more. This is the New York Times
2018.
Black men who attended religious
services are 76% more likely to attain
at least middle class status than those
who did not.
Wow.
76%
more likely
to rise socioeconomically,
which generally is associated with some
increase in happiness.
That's that's enormous.
If people were not brainwashed into
thinking religion is awful and is for
dummies, religion would be the first
thing every single
pro-human
anti-depression
group would advocate. It is the single
best answer. It's not the only answer.
It's the single best answer.
I got more. National Survey on Drug Use
and Health, NSDU.
Adults and teens who considered religion
to be very important and who attended
religious services weekly or more were
far less likely to drink or use illicit
drugs. Individuals who, in addition to
receiving treatment, attended
spiritually based support programs such
as the 12step programs, Alcoholics
Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous, were
more likely to maintain sobriety.
H how much proof do you need? If after
listening to these reasons, you still
think it's it's a great idea to lead a
secular life, there has to be a reason.
It can't be that you have rationally
concluded that there must be some
emotional anger or hostility to religion
or that you've been successfully
brainwashed into believing that you are
above religion. You don't need it.
You do
and society certainly does.
The data are overwhelming.
Happiness is a big deal.
The death of wisdom.
Wisdom is everything.
The vast majority of American students,
doesn't matter what university,
certainly high school or elementary
school, don't use the word wisdom. It's
not used by the faculty.
Knowledge. Oh, they talk a lot about
knowledge and of course now about equity
and fighting racism and so on, but not
wisdom.
Wisdom was the essence of why
universities were founded. And the
biggest source of wisdom, the biggest,
this was universally acknowledged in the
western world was the Bible.
So I do a radio show. I have for 40
years. So I asked on a number of
occasions. I devoted an hour to the
subject, if you don't get your wisdom
from the Bible, where do you get your
wisdom from?
And it was fascinating. The overwhelming
majority of people answered from life
experience.
Now, that is what we call an unwise
answer to the question of where did you
get your wisdom? First of all, if the
overwhelming majority of your wisdom
comes from life experience, let's at
least acknowledge that if you didn't
have a lot of life experience, you're
probably a fool, which is the opposite
of being wise. You're probably somewhat
of a dummy in terms of what life means.
That's what wisdom is. What is life
about? How do you lead a good life? What
is the meaning? And so on. So, why would
we give the vote to 18y olds if most
people think you get wise solely by
getting older? Why would we want to give
the unwise a vote? Why did we lower it
from 21 to 18 decades ago? Maybe the
voting age should be 30.
So, here is something most people have
not thought of. You can actually learn
wisdom without getting older.
That's right. I did. I went to a
religious Jewish school called the
yeshiva. Half the day was religious
subjects, half the day secular subjects.
And the religious subjects were rooted
in the Bible. And Christian kids get a
very similar thing in in traditional
Christian schools, Catholic schools,
Protestant schools, whatever it might
be. You can learn wisdom.
I learned wisdom at the age of 10.
I didn't have any life experience, but I
had some wisdom. Not to my credit. I
learned it. You can learn wisdom like
you can learn to play the piano, but but
not in secular schools. There is no
wisdom taught. Secular schools are the
repositories of non-wisdom. The least
wise places in America are the most
secular places. They're called
universities.
That's where all the ridiculous ideas
come from. because these are thoroughly
secularized people who make up their own
ideas about life. You can learn wisdom.
I'll give you I'll give you so just a
few examples of stuff that I learned
when I was about 8 years old.
So here's an example. There's a very
famous apherism in Hebrew and it is from
the Talmud, the second holiest work in
Judaism after the Bible.
Aahu Hagibore. Who is the strong man?
Hakovves,
the man who conquers his own urge.
I learned that at 8, that the the
strongest I could be is to conquer my
own appetites and urges and instincts.
So, I learned a very big deal that kids
in religious schools learn and kids in
secular schools virtually never learn.
And here it goes. I learned that the
biggest problem in Dennis Prager's life
is Dennis Prager.
That has served me very well in life. I
knew I had to fight my own nature to be
a good person.
In secular school, you know who you
taught to fight? Society,
not yourself.
And that's why they produce so many
foolish people.
If you don't understand that you have to
fight yourself, you're not going to be a
very developed human being. You have to
fight your laziness. You have to fight
your selfishness. You have to fight your
narcissism.
It's endless.
Related to that, here's another wisdom
teaching that you get in a religious
Christian or Jewish school that you
don't get in secular school. Don't
follow your heart.
religious Jewish and Christian kids who
are Bible-based, they are repeatedly
told how deceptive, deceitful the heart
is. Secular life, follow your heart. I
can't think of a worse piece of advice
if you want to be a developed and good
person. Follow your heart. Holy crow,
what a stupid piece of advice.
But that's what you learn in secular
school. In religious school, you learn
don't follow your heart. Follow what is
good and wise and right. Very rarely
stuff that comes from your heart. No
Bible, pretty much no wisdom. That's the
way it works. Now, there were foolish
religious people of course and some wise
individual secular people. But the
society and its institutions,
Bible free is wisdom free. more
non-wisdom of our secular age support
for communism who was overwhelmingly
overwhelmingly if not exclusively among
secular people.
Not all secular people supported
communism but virtually everybody who
supported communism was secular. The
greatest mass movement of murder in
history was a secular movement supported
by secular intellectuals,
wisdom human beings. These are just a
few of the examples.
The postJoChristian
world has abolished the human animal
distinction.
The Judeo-Christian belief is that
humans are created in God's image. We
are infinitely precious. We are more
precious than animals. That is the
Judeo-Christian belief. It's not the
postJo-Christian belief. We're not more
precious than animals.
I realized this very, very early on in
my life. I was sitting next to a woman
on a plane. I was in my 20s. This was a
life-changing little discussion.
The woman was having a vegetarian meal.
And so, I decided to talk to her while
having my meal. And I said, "Are you a
vegetarian?" Of course. And she might
have just preferred it. I didn't know if
she was. She is. She was a vegetarian.
And I said, "So, and why are you a
vegetarian?" She said, "Because I don't
think we have any right to kill animals
for food." A view, by the way, that I
have some respect for, even though I'm
not a vegetarian.
But then she continued, she said, "After
all, who are we humans to say we are
superior or more valuable than animals?"
Who are we to say we're more valuable
than animals?
That that blew my mind.
It was one of those epiphany moments in
my life,
but not yet. The epiphany really came
now.
When she said that, I said, "I'm sorry.
I I I respect and understand why you
don't think we should kill animals for
food,
but do you really believe that we aren't
more valuable than animals? After all, I
I if a human and and a dog were were
drowning, which would you save first?" I
thought it was a rhetorical question.
Silence.
And then I said, "I'm I'm sorry. Did Did
you hear my question?" And then she said
the revelatory response,
"I'm thinking."
And I thought, "She's thinking.
She's thinking about whether she would
save a dog or a human first."
And that set me off into asking, and
I've asked this probably a hundred times
in a hundred schools since then. I'd ask
high school kids,
if you have a dog or a cat and you love
your dog or cat and your cat or dog were
drowning and you noticed you're walking
by the seashore and you noticed that
there was a human being you didn't know,
a stranger also drowning 100 ft away or
50 ft away, which would you try to save
first? I know you'd like to say both.
Which would you try to say first?
In every instance in 40 years, I've
gotten the exact same responses.
One-third say the dog, one-third the
stranger, and one-third doesn't know.
Twothirds of people, including now
adults, these are these were high school
kids from 40 years ago.
Now they're middle-aged and older.
Twothirds would not save a person.
before the dog. Why? I love my dog. I
don't love the stranger.
That's it. That's where they follow
their heart. Told you about following
your heart.
By the way, I love my dogs more than I
love strangers, too. But I would save a
stranger first because human beings are
created in God's image and they are more
valuable than animals.
That I admit that's a Judeo-Christian
value. That's correct. That's why you
need values. Because if our heart only
told us the right thing to do, we
wouldn't need values, would we? We just
follow our heart. It's what people do
today. So even if you think you should
save your dog because you love your dog
first, you would at least have to admit
my point. This is a postChristian,
postJude Christian belief
that you save your dog before a
stranger.
I'll give you another example of the
breakdown of the human animal
distinction. PETA, People for the
Ethical Treatment of Animals, biggest
animal rights group in America,
raises many millions of dollars a year.
There is a program they have for years
called Holocaust on Your Plate. Look it
up.
And they contend that the barbecuing of
chickens in America is the moral
equivalent of the cremating of Jews in
the Holocaust.
The equivalent.
There's no difference between cremating
people that you've murdered and
barbecuing chickens.
I had the head of the group on Ingred
Nukeer
>> and uh she said there's no difference
between a human and a chicken.
>> No, not at all. I asked a simple
question. Do you believe that we were
morally right in fighting the Nazis?
>> Of course.
>> Okay, fine. Because they were mass
murderers. If there is no difference
between killing chickens and killing
Jews in World War II, why shouldn't we
kill farmers?
>> Send us what you're trying.
>> Why? No. No. Answer my question. Why
shouldn't we kill farmers?
>> This is all postbiblical,
postJude Christian thinking.
The consequences of secularism
are awful. It is moral and intellectual
chaos.
There's another distinction that's being
obliterated
in the post-Christian world, the
postjristian world.
Male, female.
It's almost unbelievable.
I grew up with it. I was told in college
there's no difference between male and
female nature
that we're basically the same.
That was that was what set me off. One
of the things that set me off in my
thinking that I'm I'm living in the
world of nonsense here at Colombia where
I went to graduate school. There's no no
basic differences between male and
female.
Now we don't even have male and female.
Not only no differences, there is no
such thing as male and female. It's
completely subjective. There's no
objective male and female. You are what
you think you are even when you're 5
years old.
It's a if this is a true breakdown that
has occurred inside the secular world.
There's no male and female. And yet in
Genesis
it says God created the human being male
and female he created them.
That's a distinction. It's not only
biological, it's divine.
It is part of the divine order
in life. We are living in the age of
chaos because it has dropped the idea of
a divine order.
So there's no more a difference between
male and female.
Girls were told by the feminists when I
was in college, "Oh, hey, you could have
sex just like the guys do. They love
just like guys can love sex without
commitment, without emotional bonding,
anonymous. So can you." But it doesn't
turn out that way. For the vast majority
of women,
that's not exactly a uh a deeply
satisfying thing at all. In fact, it's
it's a cause of of depression in many
young women.
But hey, if women are like men,
then that's their nature to have sex
without commitment. It's also male
nature to have sex with commitment. I'm
not saying not, but it's not generally
female nature.
There is no secular solution to evil.
I want a God who says be good.
You know the famous line from the Bible,
love your neighbor as yourself. That's
not the line. The line is love your
neighbor as yourself. I am God.
If God doesn't say love your neighbor as
yourself, it doesn't mean a damn thing.
It's just a sweet suggestion.
That's the best hope
for the very complex project of making a
good world. It's very hard to make
people good. It's very hard to make a
good world.
Western civilization has done the best
at it with all its flaws
and it was rooted in the book that says
love your neighbor as yourself. I am
God.
Or as I put it another way, if you
really want to defund the police,
I've got a method.
Have everybody live by the Ten
Commandments.
Then you can defund the police.
big consequences,
awful consequences
of the death of God and the Bible as the
basis of Western civilization. I don't
know if the West will survive their
demise. I really don't.
But I know that there's a chance only if
people come to understand the price we
have paid
for their disappearance.
It's why I've written my rational Bible
series.
I'm not trying to sell you a book.
Nobody writes commentaries on
Deuteronomy for the money.
But I know how brilliant those books
are.
You may not believe in God.
You may be completely irreligious.
It has nothing to do with anything I
have said. All you need to be is
intellectually honest and care about
humanity
in order to worry about what the death
of God, the Bible, and Judeo-Christian
values mean.
That's the thing.
This has not been an argument for you
to believe in God. I might make that
another time.
It's only an argument for you to
understand what happens when he's no
longer around in people's consciousness.
Thanks.
Where are you?
Heat. Heat.