돈 많은 부자들이 오히려 물건 많이 안 사는 이유 "5,000가구 정리하고 깨달았습니다." (정희숙 대표 1부)

Why can't you go for 2-3 days after cleaning up? Why can't you clean up after throwing away a lot? I want to tell you. Are you really cleaning up now? I've been going to a lot of relaxed houses. But they had something in common. First of all, they... Hello, subscribers of Knowledge Insider. Nice to meet you. I meet people who have a hard time organizing and diagnose the space and provide solutions. I've changed about 5,000 houses. I think I've met about 10,000 families. I've seen a lot of good houses in there. How do you organize people's lives? I've learned a lot about what they value. The secrets of good houses. Let's have a chat with you today. I've been organizing a lot of houses. I go to a lot of relaxed houses. But they had something in common. They had a similar way of life. There were a lot of things that were similar to the types of things they liked. First of all, they... They had a clear idea about their space. My space is important. My husband's space is important, too. So they had their own dressing room. There were a lot of cases where they used their own books. But should I say ordinary people? When I meet them, the stories I hear from them often are, You don't have to have my space. I just sleep and go out. The house is just a place to sleep. They often told me that story. What I felt while organizing the rich people's houses is, They had a clear taste. What do I like? What do I think is important? Depending on how you manage those things, I learned about their hobbies and their interests. The houses I go to are always clean. The cleaning condition is very good. Of course, the helpers came and took care of it. He was also taking good care of himself. He thought cleaning was more important than anything else. Their bedroom was always clean with bedclothes and pillows. Of course, it was discolored yellow. I've never seen a contaminated blanket or a pillowcase. The bathroom was especially clean. The bedroom was clean, too. He always paid a lot of attention to cleaning. He put a lot of effort into it. In fact, the number of things itself is not a lot. Minimal? I don't think that's the right expression. There were a lot of things. There were times when there weren't as many as I thought. One thing in common was that it was a good thing. Of course, good things have been around for a long time. Maybe it's an old thing. They took good care of it and kept it. Maybe there weren't a lot of cheap things. There were a lot of good things and valuable things. I think that was a little different. In the end, it's a little expensive. It's a luxury that a lot of people like these days. Of course, those who are relaxed, those who live well, and those who are rich. I think it's true that luxury goods are more common than ordinary people. However, they saved a lot of food ingredients and general daily necessities. They saved a lot of electricity. I felt that they didn't waste it. They didn't even care about a piece of cloth. Maybe it's because they have a lot of money. It's not easy to buy and throw away. Whether it's cheap or expensive, I think it was a little different that they treated their belongings very preciously, kept them, and used them. They have a habit of postponing. If you go to their house, the dishes are basically piled up. And the laundry is piled up. So the laundry was always overflowing in the laundry basket. In the case of food waste, it smelled because it wasn't thrown away right away. The cleaning condition wasn't clean either. The recycling bin was always full. They throw it away every day, but they don't throw it away every day. In the end, they had a habit of postponing. So when Jae-yeol arrived at the scene in the morning, I've never seen a single person who tidied up the bedclothes on the bed. The bedclothes were folded like this and folded like that according to their shape. So in the end, people who don't clean up, people who can't clean up, have a habit of postponing. Of course, there's a lot of stuff in the space. It's piled up from the entrance to the door where the courier box comes in. When I look at which house has been tidied up, there's always a box of parcels. There's no place to put things out the door, so there are a lot of houses that make or pack storage. It's not even organized by bicycle. If it's well-organized, they don't even put their bicycles out of the door or make it messy. But if it's not organized, helmets, bicycles, jump ropes, those things are always out of the door. They know they have a lot of things. But specifically, I have a lot of jeans, I have a lot of food, I have a lot of sneakers, I have a lot of drugs. People try to do the whole house a day when they start cleaning up. If there's an empty space, they try to put it in. And they buy a box and close the lid. In the end, they think that the reason they can't clean up is because the house is small. It's a matter of how to find it when you put it in place. So, of course, you have to put it in place, and you have to calculate the route, but there's rice in the closet in a place that's not even a place to use it. There's an album in the closet, there's a tool on the desk, and there's socks in the kitchen drawer. How do you find it? It looks neat, but it's messed up because you're looking for it. That's why it's never maintained. Organizing is throwing away. I hear this the most. Maybe you can throw it away. Why are you spending so much time and money on it? You can clean it up when you move. You can throw it all away. That's what a lot of people say. In fact, throwing it away may be part of step 1 of step 10 of organizing. People think it's the beginning and the end of organizing. Maybe some of you have thrown it away one by one a day. There are a lot of things in a 1-ton truck. I've seen some people throw away 20 to 30 bags of garbage per 100 liters. They all say, Why can't I organize it? I've thrown away so much. So I tell you. You've thrown away a lot, haven't you? But there's a lot left. Don't focus on the amount you've thrown away. You have to focus on what's left. It's not like you're running to find your place. You have to make sure you put enough things where you're going to use them. It's too difficult. I don't know how to put it. I'm like that. You can put clothes in the closet. You just need to put kitchen utensils in the kitchen. You just need to put kitchen utensils in the bathroom. If I explain that, Of course. But when I go to the kitchen, There are cosmetics, stationery, and tools. It's a mixture of things that have nothing to do with the kitchen. There's a mom's clothes in the kid's room. There's a dad's major book. There's a kid's book in the couple's bedroom. If you open the clothes, It's a mixture of children's clothes, mom's clothes, and dad's clothes. There's no division of space. There's no concept of a place to use. So, of course, it can't be maintained. I'm like that. Things that can be put in the house have a role. Even if it's a 5,000 won frame, I hung it up. I feel good when I look at the frame. Then I think that thing plays a role. That's why I need it. But it's a running machine that I bought for 3 million won. But for three or four years, I don't ride it once. I'm always looking at it. I regret buying an expensive one. I'm stressed out. I always hang up the blanket. I always hang up the clothes. But there's a bigger problem. It takes up space. I sometimes ask how much it costs per square meter. How much is this apartment per square meter? If you ask me, Yeah, it's over 50 million won per square meter. I'm in this expensive apartment. You're talking about a low-season running machine. It's something that takes up space and doesn't play a role. That thing could be a running machine. It could be a 20-year-old piano. So what he's thinking is, How much did you pay for it? He's thinking about the price he bought 10 years ago. That's why he can't throw it away. But I don't think so. The value of space is much higher than the value of this thing. It's a real loss to keep this thing. Let me explain. Oh, I didn't even think about it. What you're going to throw away is what you're not using right now. It's something that only takes up space. You need to get rid of those things. We have it at home, but there's something that doesn't play a role. What doesn't play a role is an old, yellow, discolored, sealed container. A sealed container that smells, emits environmental hormones, and harms health. It's a set of bowls, but one of them has a broken handle. Bowls that don't fit. He has a lot of broken appliances. A typical example is a fan. I can't stand up because my neck is broken. He's been fixing it since last year. He kept it, and when we got there, he said, Oh, just throw it away. It's been a while since the vacuum cleaner broke down. He kept fixing it, and then he threw it away. In the end, you have to throw away things that don't play a role. Most people think about it first. If I lose weight someday, if I go to a big house someday, If I become rich someday, I'll use it then. I'm going to take it out then. He doesn't open a new box of new products. In fact, I clean up my parents' house a lot. Mothers always have new towels and umbrellas. I always make a promise to him that I can come someday. I keep stocking it up. But I don't know when that someday will come. And I always say that. It's coming someday, but it's not tomorrow. Then I lost weight ten years later. Then I'm not the same age as when I bought the clothes ten years ago. In the end, even if you lose weight, you can't wear the clothes again. So the standard of someday It can never be a standard for choosing things. I meet a lot of people who say they care, they're modest, they're frugal. But they talk like this. CEO, I don't buy luxury goods. There's not a single expensive item in my house. I got it all by sharing. I've heard that a lot. But looking at their house and looking at their stuff, I've never thought he was very frugal. Always look at things like home shopping. Buy a lot of cheap stuff. Buy it by color. Buy a lot of duplicate items together. Then what happens? I only use what I use. I give you red, yellow, blue, and purple. In the end, you only wear one or two colors. I'm going to throw away the rest of the colors. I gave you a lot of stuff. After the expiration date, I only use one or two. In the end, if you throw it away, I don't think that's frugal. I'm frugal. I'm going to use the things I'm going to buy every day. I think it's frugal to make it go out of stock. I think that's frugal. People have a small house. There's no space. Get a warehouse. You have to expand your house. Looking at the structure of the house and the arrangement of furniture, How do you place it? How do you store it? I found out that the house is getting wider. In fact, depending on how the 25-pyeong apartment is structured, It could look much wider. It could look much narrower. When you place furniture, You have to pay attention to the color of the furniture. People say, It's not a set. Do I have to put it together? That's what they say. Furniture is more than material and expensive and cheap. Even if you match the color, It looks much wider. But people. I'm going to store a lot. Buy a tall drawer. So buy a five-tier drawer that fits your height. If you put a tall drawer in a small space, It looks much narrower and stuffier. But why did he do that? Because my house is small. Because I have to store a lot. So he buys a very deep drawer. Such large furniture. In the end, it doesn't make my house wider. It makes it narrower and stuffier. I'm done organizing the whole thing. I'm done organizing. Once everything comes out and faces me, When it's in place, I think it's over. Everything is in place. Then you'll have to put it back in place after use. If you use a towel, you have to put it in place. If you use a cooking tool, you can put it in place. Now you have to buy something. How should I buy it? I don't buy it because I need it. If there's an empty spot, Oh, that's when it was empty. When the stock is exhausted, That's when you buy it. But I have to buy clothes. Then I think of two places first. You're thinking about throwing one away. You're buying one. That's the only way it's going to last. You haven't organized it yet. It's not organized. I throw one away a day. It's probably going to be a lot faster. Let's throw one away a day. It's when you're done organizing. It's the same thing if you buy one and throw one away. So remember, When you're done organizing, It's in place after use. If you have a habit, of course it'll last. I don't think there's anyone who's not busy these days. But the biggest concern is actually organizing clothes. Most people can't organize their clothes. I meet a lot of people who break the order in the house. So I tell a lot of people like this. If you're really interested in organizing, If you don't organize as a hobby, Please hang your clothes. Make the ratio of hanging space 80 to 20. 20% folding space, 80% hanging space. Then you'll find out. You won't be able to hang a lot. People say that. I don't hang a lot. I can't hang them all. Four-season clothes. If you only have the amount of clothes in your closet, Actually, it's not that hard to organize. But we organize summer clothes in spring and autumn clothes in summer. We keep changing clothes for each season. But we say we can't organize. So to make it easier to organize, Of course, you have to reduce the inventory itself. Simply put, cleaning is cleaning. Maybe you think the same way about organizing and cleaning. If you ask me again, You say, uh, that's not true. You talk about this a lot, right? I organized it, but why can't I go for two or three days? I threw it away a lot, but why can't I organize it? I moved to a big house, but why can't I organize it? I talk a lot about that. To me, to many people who organize, Will it be maintained? You ask a lot of questions like this. Even if I do that, will it be maintained? You ask a lot of questions like that. I want to tell you. Are you really organizing now? Is what you're doing right now organizing? Organizing and cleaning can be really different activities. The result is to clean the space. But the object is completely different, right? Organizing is aimed at objects, people, and space. Cleaning is an activity to remove dust, garbage, and mold. When you clean up, you take out everything. When you clean up, you put everything away and put it in. So a lot of people are cleaning. It's not about organizing. Organizing is covering up what you need and what you don't need. Finding the right place for what you really need Organizing is an activity of storing in place. But most people put things in regardless of the purpose of the empty space. It's neat when you clean it up. It's messy again because you can't find it. I can't find it, so I buy it again. While continuing to clean, not organize, Why can't I keep it even if I organize it? Maybe it's no use organizing. I can't keep it anyway. This is how the kids live. There are a lot of people who don't organize at all because they think they can keep it organized. So a lot of people think the same way about organizing and cleaning. Maybe it's harder to organize because you don't organize it properly. They keep thinking that they are organizing. Minimalist, Minimalism, Minimal Life. Good. I think the direction we should go is Minimal Life. There is a saying that we were born as Minimal Life when we were born. Maybe you don't bring anything and you can't bring anything. I think Koreans are like this. The culture itself is based on emotions about things. It's just that things aren't things. Just like how Chocopie is affection, We have affection, we have a lot, we have a lot, we have a lot. If you give me a little, if you give me one, it's a little bit of that culture. Give me a lot of what you buy. I think it's a culture of buying a lot and sharing it. So when we move, we take off the closet and take all the shopping bags. I don't know if it's our reality to take all the dust. I think Minimal Life is close to Japanese culture. One day, there was an earthquake, and all my property became waste. What I learned while doing that was that things are useless. It disappears in an instant. You can't collect things. I thought I should live simply. Minimal Life may come to Korea. It's the right direction to go. To us who used to live as maximalists, To make it minimal all of a sudden. I think it's about getting rid of it before you throw it away. Maybe throwing it away is better. Just as throwing away more is a better way to clean up. Because it's shown on TV. I had a lot of concerns, too. But I've met a lot of people. Whether you live well or not, The thing in common is that it was hard to throw away things. So when I see them, Oh, I can't throw it away because I didn't clean it up. A lot of people say this. I can't throw things away. I talk a lot about this. What I felt while seeing a lot of people is that Oh, they're not the ones who can't throw it away. I don't know what to throw away. I don't know what to leave. I'm nervous. Because it's not organized. Because it's not re-multiplied. I can't throw it away right now. I've come to understand that. Minimal life, maximalist. I can't say what's good or bad. I don't think I can live as a minimal all of a sudden. Step by step, step by step, step by step. Organize it so that it doesn't happen. You have to take it to the next level. All of a sudden, one day, I'm going to throw away all the stuff like a pile. I'm going to live a minimal life all of a sudden. I don't think I can organize it happily. The most important thing in organizing is I think it's classification. Classification is divided into users. It's divided by type. But usually a lot of people I don't do the classification. The process is more important than the result. But people skip that process. I'm very focused on how to put it in. It's not important how to put it in. It's more important what's in it. It doesn't have to look pretty. If there's underwear in this drawer, it's okay. I folded the clothes nicely in the drawer. When I took it out, there was my dad's underwear. If there's a mom's underwear and a child's underwear, It's not well organized. But most people don't focus on classification. I'm very focused on folding. So what's really important is It's important to throw it away. Don't throw it away and organize it. Think about classification first. When you classify, Zipper bags and shopping bags are fine. You can put the same things in one place. Camera, camera lens, camera bag, camera battery, camera charger. If you put them together, you can easily find the camera. But glasses, glasses, and glasses. There are few cases where the wipers are together. Glasses are separate. Glasses are separate. The wiper goes around separately. So only things with the same function and purpose I think I did a good job of organizing it by collecting it in one place.