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hello everybody it is kaya i think
and welcome back to another video by
dissection i'm a little bit overwhelmed
right now if you haven't seen our last
update
please go watch that because
we are so full of love for the community
right now and for all of you guys i sat
down today being like
let's film a video about how you can
help people through flashbacks so
recently uh we met up with some other
systems and spent maybe like four days
together and it was great it was the
first time we've spent with systems
since 2020
um
since like february 2020 i think
in person it was quite a full full-on
time there was a lot of stuff going on
there were a lot of switches it was
three systems that we were with and we
were all staying in the same hotel room
and of course there were triggers and
all three of our systems had flashbacks
multiple flashbacks actually and
thankfully we were around to help each
other through it we have lived with
systems before we have
met multiple systems we've spoken to a
lot of systems within the community and
obviously we have our own experience of
having dissociative identity disorder
but that doesn't mean that any advice
that we can give or any of the things
that we've seen will apply to everybody
so this is just advice that we can give
based off
what we've found works for us and the
people around us
that doesn't mean that it's gonna be
right for everybody so if you are gonna
try and help somebody through a
flashback the first thing you should do
is before they have a flashback try and
speak to them about it hey if this
happens how do you want me to approach
it how can i best help you is there
anything i should avoid doing is there
anything that would really help um
sarafina's nibbling on my foot is that
is that what's gonna help is it it's
very grounding thank you yes
that's my sock it's my sock some people
might
really not want to be touched when
they're having a flashback for other
people touch is extremely grounding or
could help distract from physical
sensations so if you haven't seen any of
our other videos on flashbacks nin and i
think chloe as well made a load of
videos on like the science behind
flashbacks the psychology of it the
neuropsychology of like the parts of the
brain that are activated why it happens
how you can help that sort of stuff but
nothing particularly just about
okay if this happens and somebody in
front of you is experiencing it
what should you do right first things
first
try to stay calm whoever you're with
especially if it is a system it might be
somebody with ptsd and not necessarily
somebody who has did anybody with ptsd
cptsd osdd could all have flashbacks
right so
they have probably experienced it before
it might look like it's the end of the
world and yes they are probably going
through an extremely
unpleasant and very traumatizing
experience but they have done it before
they have come out of it before and they
will come out of it again okay the only
thing that you need to focus on is being
there listening to what they need
um and a lot of that is going to be body
language and not panicking some people
will be aware of what's going on vaguely
while they're in flashback and it does
depend on what kind of flashback it is
some flashbacks are purely sensations
feeling physical feelings that happened
in the past some are
visual images like an overlay of what's
going on in the real world or could be
completely you can't tell what's going
on in the real world and you're fully in
this flashback there can be sounds
um like i said touch taste the
experience is gonna differ from person
to person and from flashback to
flashback makes a little bit harder to
deal with it's going to be easier the
more you know the person and the more
you've spoken about this beforehand so
the first thing you want to know is can
you touch or not if they are aware
and it might not look like they're aware
but they may be able to respond to you
if you just ask can i touch
is touch okay do you want me to touch
you or i'm going to touch your arm right
now is that okay they might just be able
to nod or shake their head or move away
listen to what they're telling you even
if it's not verbal and don't try and
force them to do something they don't
want to do even if you think that
touching might help them if they say do
not touch me
whether it's verbal or nonverbal as i've
said do not touch them okay
things that can help use a soft voice a
soothing voice saying things that help
them acknowledge
that it is a flashback will help but
don't try and
diminish their experience by saying
things like it was 10 years ago get over
it that sort of thing or it's not even
happening right now snap out of it do
not say anything like that you can say
things like it's over now
you've done it you survived it
it's from the past it's just a flashback
and it's gonna be over soon praise can
sometimes help you doing so well it's
nearly over it's nearly done it's nearly
done you've got this grounding through
physical sensations if somebody is
experiencing a flashback where they can
feel what's going on
whether that be
in any part of their body for example
with us
omega may have a flashback and may find
herself struggling to breathe
um
do not try and pull her hand away from
her neck okay unless that individual is
hurting themselves because if they find
anything touching around there they may
freak out even worse so if somebody is
pulling or scratching a certain area of
their body you can gently touch their
hand if they've said it's okay to touch
and try and move their hand away from
hurting themselves more but trying not
to touch the area that they are
scratching holding grabbing onto okay
and obviously if it's in a
personal area just don't don't go there
don't look just let them do what they're
doing
do not
get anywhere near that zone okay
unless you have expressed permission
that you've spoken about before and even
so i've never met anybody you that's
okay with i've never even asked but i
would be extremely careful
consent is always going to be your
number one priority and even if somebody
has said oh yeah please do this when i'm
in a flashback they may change their
mind when they're actually in a
flashback which is why it's so important
to ask
so yes you can try and avoid them
hurting themselves again do not be
forceful i'm going to use the example of
somebody grabbing their throat and you
know potentially causing themselves
damage or making it harder for them to
breathe
don't grab their hand and try and pull
it away hopefully this isn't triggering
i'm not going to put any force this is
just an example it could be on
somebody's arm maybe they're scratching
at their arms or something like that
instead of grabbing and pulling
forcefully away maybe you try and get
your hand excuse my nails um maybe you
try and so okay so somebody's doing that
to themselves right you're going to want
to try and get your hand underneath
where their hand is grabbing on so
you're going to want to try and go like
that and gently hold their hand with
yours
so that way they're not going to be
hurting their skin they might dig their
fingers into here but they're not going
to be doing any actual damage where they
could take their skin off or cause any
serious wounds squeezing especially on
hands
around um
fleshier areas that isn't going to be
super painful be careful if you're
squeezing around the wrists if you are
um with somebody who you know has been
restrained
or
has trauma around
being restrained
so i would say stick to hands if you can
squeezing and saying things like can you
feel me squeezing your hand
can you feel that can you squeeze back
squeeze back if you can feel me
squeezing your hand
how many squeezes am i doing i'm gonna
count with you one two
one two three
one
one two three four that's gonna help
bring their attention back to what's
actually happening and not what they can
feel happening from the past because
you're counting through exactly what's
happening as it's happening now that
might help them start to distinguish
between sensations now and somatic
flashback again this won't work for
everybody and you need to check
beforehand
if you can some people find um repeating
the date
where you are who you are
um and that you're safe to be helpful
for other people that doesn't help at
all
you can try it's not gonna hurt i don't
think um it's
i don't know what the date is let's say
it's the
i have no idea what the date is
i don't even know what month it is
june
june june 2022. okay so let's say it's
the first okay it's the first of june
2022 it's over it's done you've got
through it you can get through it again
it's just a flashback it's the 1st of
june 2022. you're 25 years old you're
safe you're in
a hotel room you're with
i don't know bobby and
blake or somebody whoever's there you're
safe nobody else is in the room you're
just with us you're 25 years old it's
2022.
it's over it's just a flashback
that can help
some people other things might you know
might need to use a little bit more
not sharp but i guess something that is
more
gives more sensation than squeezing um
so for example um running your your
hands across somebody's back like that
if that's safe
um or up and down their arms maybe
scratching a little bit gently not
digging your arms in just running your
nails across the skin if they say please
don't use your nails do not use your
nails
exactly the same kind of thing positive
triggers only use a positive trigger if
it's really really necessary
and if you have consent from the system
either beforehand or at that moment and
you need
consent okay so if you know a positive
trigger for a
protector for example
and let's say you're in a public space
maybe you need to leave the area that
you're currently in and you need to help
get this person out from where they are
into a safe area but they are too deep
in their flashback to walk or move
and they're just getting more and more
distressed
you need to find a way to help leave
that environment that's making it worse
and making the trigger worse and get
them somewhere safe or quiet or familiar
okay
that's not always possible when you're
having a flashback if you are a did or
potentially osdd system you may have
positive triggers that you're aware of
that will encourage certain alters to
front
never do this without permission
and only when it's really necessary
and i mean really necessary
so
this could be something like playing a
particular song it could be touching a
certain area of the body in a certain
way it could be calling a particular
name and asking them to front
um
okay um
okay okay okay okay
i think
i said about touches i said about
positive traders i said about
making sure they don't hurt themselves i
said about seeing the date
i love you
thank you for
oh helping girl
yeah
okay um
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don't find that please
it's a fairy light it's not for kittens
to bite on no it's not
there's nothing to bite on
there you go sorry you can't bite it and
it will hurt you
okay um
sometimes just hugging and holding can
help if they're comfortable with touch
just hold on to them tell them that
they're safe tell them that they're okay
be as soft and enveloping as you can be
not tight make sure
they can breathe
soft sensations to help ground them
whether that's just stroking if they're
comfortable with that
that's a candle
um
if they have any grounding objects with
them that might be a bracelet ask them
to feel the texture on the bracelet if
they're with it enough if you have any
strong smelling perfume or some oils or
anything like that
maybe give that to them hold it near
their face and ask them to smell it can
you smell it what does it smell like can
you describe that as they're starting to
come out of the flashback and they're
able to
what you doing and they're able to uh
respond to you better maybe they are a
little bit more aware of
their surroundings you can ask them to
do some grounding techniques like can
you tell me five things you can see
um or touch the walls or um things like
that how many colors can you see right
now
um can you count them and tell me what
they are
um a good way to judge whether they're
coming back to themselves and how far
back to themselves they are is
do you know where you are can you tell
me why we're here
do you know who i am
how old are you
do you know what the date is
and um people can be
pulled back into flashbacks so just
because somebody seems to be coming back
in that doesn't mean that it's over they
could go right back
that's fine
don't panic it doesn't mean that you've
done anything wrong
it can take a while to recover from
flashbacks especially if they're very
intense ones or
very full-on it can take
yeah that's right
i know
it can take anything from
minutes to snap out of if it's a
relatively
uh easy one well not to snap out of but
to you know
be okay and keep going
uh when you come out of it
careful those are my earbuds i'm sorry
it's a very nice noise you don't have
any toys in here do you
or it could take hours or it could take
a day or more to
feel okay again after a flashback
and it's okay just to be
quiet just let them breathe let them
recover it can be
not just
mentally and emotionally draining but
physically draining too your body will
probably be very tense
you might struggle with your breathing
you might have been
flexing
certain muscles you might have been
clawing at yourself it can be very
physically draining and you can't hurt
yourself in flashbacks so give them the
time they need if they need space give
them space but keep an eye on them if
you can
um some people
might vomit
well they're having a flashback if
they're remembering something
particularly bad or if they feel like
there's something in there
they might feel the need to
vomit
what's that
yeah
play with it like that so yeah sorry i
difficult topic i guess but uh
yeah just be there for them
discuss it beforehand if you can don't
panic everything will be okay
and i understand that it can be
a very distressing and sometimes
traumatizing experience to see people go
through flashbacks
especially if you then become aware of
trauma about them
that you weren't aware of before
is absolutely okay and advisable
to get therapy
um
mean sometimes we've been more
traumatized learning about other
people's
trauma than we have when our own comes
to light
just because it's not yours doesn't mean
that it can't be traumatizing to you so
if you're struggling
please seek professional help it's just
as valid there's our advice like i said
might not be applicable to everybody
probably won't be applicable to
everybody but that's the the best advice
that we found works
for
the people that we've uh been in close
proximity with and that's been a number
of different systems
and ourselves and i hope that it's
helpful i know it can be very scary
experience for whoever's helping and for
obviously whoever's experiencing the
flashback oh physical sensation
flashbacks uh can last
even if somebody else
switches out
and you can get little bits leak through
as well even if it's not like a physical
flashback um if somebody else in the
system is having a flashback sometimes
you can get
glimpses of it or you can hear things
you know whether that's hearing them
have a flashback screaming shouting
whatever or actually hearing part of the
flashback they're having or feeling odd
sensations
that's normal it's just flashback stuff
um something that helps if you are
experiencing
um pain in your
lower areas is pace walk keep moving
um for as long as you need to just walk
um
and
yeah if you want
ways to cope with
actually experiencing flashbacks
yourself
and recovering from them
then i'm more than happy to make a video
on that too
what are you doing this but for now i
hope that this video is helpful and uh
yeah if you've got any questions shoot
ask us one of my old hats by the way
from when i was kyle
it's nice to have it back on again
but um yes we will see you next time
stay tuned everybody lots of love
bye
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