He Left Congress... Then Said THIS About UFOs

A U.S. crash retrieval team reached a downed craft and found the beings inside it still alive. Some of the soldiers on that team never made it home. This is the account David Grush gave Joe Rogan in a new interview, his first long-form conversation since he stepped away from his role as a special advisor to Congressman Eric Burleson, which he left at around Labor Day. Now Grush was not at the site, but he says the survivors told him what happened and that they may one day tell it themselves under oath. And that was only one of the stories that he shared. He also says Senate staff once took him aside to warn him that specific people had discussed terminating him. Hey Ufologers, I'm Cristina Gomez and this is your UFO News Update. Grush says the craft was shaped like a tic-tac and had been brought down in what he described as a fight between non-human groups. Dead gray beings were lying around the crash site and the reptilian beings inside the craft had survived. Rogan wanted to know what the team did next. They posed a threat. They posed a threat? Yeah. Oh. So it was defending itself? Yeah. It was a giant reptile. Yeah. At some point that story will come out and I'm sure the people who were in some of those events will probably speak publicly at some point. So it posed a threat like it tried to attack the soldiers? Yeah. I'll let the people who were there tell their story on that. Can you tell a little bit of it? So I mean it just posed a threat and US personnel started getting hurt and dying. So US personnel was killed by these reptilians? Yeah. I know it's crazy man, but what? Grush says US forces shot and killed the reptilians, but he didn't say how many Americans died, where it happened, or even when. He didn't see it himself. He says the account came from people he knows who were at the site and that he hopes they will eventually be allowed to testify publicly. He gave Joe Rogan a list of being types he says the programs have documented and these include tall human-like beings, greys in at least three different sizes, and reptilians seven feet tall or more, some of them closer to human in shape. And he says each group tends to fly certain craft. The human-like beings usually use boomerang or crescent shapes and the reptilians usually use tic-tacs. He says at least a dozen or two crashes resulted from non-human groups fighting one another. And he also says some crashes weren't crashes at all, but craft that were found landed completely intact. The second new claim concerns Grush's own safety. He says that in early 2022, he and several other people received a coordinated message on the same day, warning that they and their wives could be reached. A few weeks later, he says he was called into an unofficial meeting in a Senate Intelligence Committee SCIF, and a SCIF stands for Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, a secured room where classified information can be discussed. He says a dozen or more senior advisors for senators, including Marco Rubio and Mark Warner, were there. You know, they pointed at me and they're like, oh, by the way, you know, these couple individuals and they named the individuals. I'm like, I know who they are. They wanted to kill you. And I know Lou Elizondo talked about it. But why? I do not know that for sure. I think, well, so, be careful what I say. There are certain presidential findings that allow certain things to protect critical things in the government. And my assessment is I was getting so close to exposing it because I was sort of preparing my inspector general's report to the IG that I must have crossed some sort of Rubicon. I still would like to know, and I hope these people are, you know, brought to justice. And that's, you know, my wish and dream. And hopefully, Department of Justice does what's needed. Grush says the plan was considered and then stopped and that he knows who stopped it. He says the staffers were so shaken that one brought whiskey into the room. And he believes he was targeted because he was too close to filing his inspector general complaint and because, he says, people were monitoring his classified work computer. None of the senior officials he named have commented on this account yet. And Grush also described an underwater site for the first time in this much detail. Rogan asked about Congressman Tim Bruchette's past comments about the ocean. And here is what Grush said about it. There's clearly some sort of base of operations in certain locations. It's large. Don't know when it got there. So it's- It's large. Like multiple city blocks type stuff. Yeah. So there's multiple city blocks somewhere in the bottom of the ocean. And it's like- Yeah. Do you know about the Baltic Sea anomaly? Well, yeah. You laugh. Yeah. What's going on with that? There's some interesting stuff there. And once again, I will allow the federal government to deal with that one and our allies and adversaries. Okay. Grush says objects arrive at the site and then leave it and that its origin is unknown. He said people from the Navy's undersea community have told him the 1989 film The Abyss is close to the truth. And he would not discuss the Baltic Sea anomaly and said the government should handle that one on its own in its own time. If you're new here, make sure to subscribe for daily UFO news updates. Grush also gave the most detailed account yet on a video he says he's actually seen. He says it shows three or four dead bodies on the ground during a retrieval. And he says he spent years checking it through other sources before he trusted it and that it was not a deception operation. So you saw a dead cadaver that was at a crash? Yes. So they filmed the crash and they filmed these cadavers. How old is this footage? I don't want to say. Okay. It's contemporary. But I don't want to reveal a particular operation because it narrows it down. But it's clear. It's not like you're looking at 1950s black and white. It's clear. And do know, you know, when I get that kind of information, you know, I'm like, tell me what it is, what happened? And I put it out for collection, so to speak. And then I confirm it independently because I was very allergic to any kind of deception. Right. Like in the in the advent of A.I., you can you can create a very realistic. And so I was very anal retentive when I was given documents, audio, visual, et cetera. And I sat on that stuff for like years until I felt comfortable with that not being some sort of limited hangout or deception activity. He says the footage is recent and shows beings that look human with pale blush, white skin and grayish hair. And he describes them as very beautiful. He ties this to advice that retired Air Force Major General Neil McCaslin reportedly gave Tom DeLonge to think of the Greek gods. Grush says the bodies are frozen or otherwise preserved for study that he knows of. And he says some of his colleagues have seen beings alive. He also says genetic work compared to the beings to humans, but they never saw those types of results. Grush also gave a new reason for why the secrecy has lasted and fear of public panic isn't it. Rogan brought up a November 2004 meeting that physicist Hal Puthoff has said he attended. Now, it was held at a federally funded research center in northern Virginia where invited experts weighted the risks and benefits of disclosure and gave each one a numerical score. Grush says he has spoken with other people who were in that room, and he says the then National Security Advisor Steve Hadley sponsored the meeting, though he believes Hadley denies this. He also says Aero, the all domain anomaly resolution office, acknowledged in its 2024 report that the meeting happened, but called it a hypothetical exercise. Grush asks why officials would run a hypothetical about something they say isn't real. And according to Grush, the scores came out more negative than positive. And the deciding factor was, of course, money. For decades, a small group of defense contractors held exclusive no bid access to recovered material. They studied it, developed technology around it, and then sold that technology back to the government. If the program became public, every company that was shut out could take the government to court for breaking federal contracting rules, and taxpayers could end up liable for billions of dollars. In Grush's view, the main reason for keeping the secret was to protect the people and companies involved from that exposure, not to protect the public from shock. According to Grush, the concern was that contractors had held exclusive deals for decades and that disclosure would open the government to lawsuits under defense contracting rules that could cost billions of dollars. I do thank Burleson for his leadership on that. And so I did that for about a year and a half, just finished up actually. I was like, you know what? I'm staying longer than I thought. I'm going to wait until Labor Day, see where things are. I worked pretty hard over summer recess in August and decided to wind down some of my activities because I accomplished a lot of my objectives. We can get into that, obviously. And then kind of move into, I'll call it my next phase of operations, which includes a little break for me. It's been very tiring. I've been kind of going full throttle for the last couple of years and whatnot. And so we're really at, I think, a poignant moment in U.S. history with what Trump's done and the things you've seen in the media and whatnot. And there's a lot of other stuff happening behind the scenes because a lot of my work has been private, behind the scenes, working for Congress, specifically Representative Burleson. Most of the work happened out of public view, and he held classified briefings with members of Congress in secure facilities. He joined lawmakers at press conferences outside the Capitol in June, which we had covered in great detail. And he helped write the letters that led to the release of the classified 1952 recording from MIT Lincoln Labs. Shortly before he left, Burleson's office sent formal questions to the Mitre Corporation, and Mitre must answer them in sworn affidavit form. Grush says Mitre's lawyers are still preparing the response, and he describes his exit as not as a result of disagreement when he left Burleson's staff. Grush now calls himself a private citizen and says he's taking a break after what he described as several exhausting years. He called Burleson the member of Congress who pushed hardest on the issue, and he also said he hopes the office keeps pressuring Mitre for answers and works with Stephen Miller and the team behind the Pursuit file releases. Grush says Stephen Miller told him at the UFC event at the White House that the information will come out. He says the principal deputy director of national intelligence, Aaron Lukes, has also signed NDA waivers. He wants basic disclosure at least six months before the 2028 election. Which claim from this interview should be investigated first? Is it the retrieval where Americans died? The plan to terminate Grush? Or the underwater site? Leave your thoughts in the comments below. I'm Christina Gomez, that's it for today. I'll see you again tomorrow at 12pm PST for another UFO news update. Be safe and remember, keep your eyes on the skies. Government disclosures and breaking developments land here every single day.