The Grusch Story Just Got Stranger, And It Leads To A Private Company

People arriving at a crash and there being the tall blue skin type Nordic type alien creatures on the ground. That footage is not, to my knowledge, in the possession of our government. It is in the possession of a contractor. That is Congressman Eric Burlison describing where alleged videos of non-human beings first described by David Grush is being held. Now, investigative journalist Ben Schreckinger has found state records listing Grush as the chief operation officer of a private materials company. That company was co-founded by two of the best-known names in the disclosure movement and reportedly has millions of dollars in investment behind it. Schreckinger also got one of the most powerful Democrats in Washington to admit for the first time to a 2016 UFO call. Meanwhile, the congressman Grush worked for until Labor Day believes the most important evidence Grush described, video of tall, blue-skinned beings at a crash site, is also in private hands held by a company that will not talk. Grush's former boss at the Pentagon's UAP task force recently took that same congressman to Skinwalker Ranch and something appeared over the mesa. Hey Ufologists, I'm Christina Gomez and this is your UFO News Update. Schreckinger spent about 10 years at Politico covering campaigns and investigations before launching his own outlet, Paradigm, in August. On the UAP Files podcast, he explains how the Grush story started. Someone on X posted screenshots that appeared to show Grush listed in a federal contractor database as an executive of a startup called Stardust X Materials. By the time Schreckinger asked about it, the listing was gone. He went back to public records, and Grush was registered as the agent of an Alabama branch of the company. Schreckinger then requested the company's filings from the Alabama Secretary of State. Take a listen. Then I obtained their certification materials through the Secretary of State of Alabama, and it showed that not only was he the registered agent, but he was listed as the COO. So I very quickly turned that around, published a short item with what else we know about this company, which is not a lot, and it sort of remains an open area of inquiry for me. COO means Chief Operating Officer, the person who runs a company's day-to-day operations. Stanford professor Gary Nolan and retired Army Colonel Carl Nell have both publicly identified themselves as co-founders of Stardust X Materials. Nolan has studied alleged UAP materials and reported unusual isotope ratios in some samples. Schreckinger points out that these materials are alleged and not confirmed. And the company also appears to have real funding. Nell, on the other hand, has indicated on LinkedIn that he's no longer involved. Nell's indicated that this company has millions of dollars in venture investing behind it. So I think that's noteworthy. It's not, according to him, just, you know, just a sort of piece of paper without a real budget. But beyond that, the full extent of their operations and their intentions remains a bit of an enigma. And as far as Schreckinger knows, Nolan is still involved. Beyond that, what Stardust X actually does remains completely unknown. On Joe Rogan's podcast, released September 30th, Grush made a claim about John Podesta. Podesta was Bill Clinton's chief of staff and Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign chairman. Grush claimed Podesta greenlit an effort to prepare the public for disclosure before the 2016 election. He also claimed that this is why retired Air Force General Neal McCaslin and Rob Weiss, then head of Lockheed Martin Skunk Works, advised Tom DeLonge. Schreckinger emailed Podesta and Podesta answered. But notably, he did confirm what came out in that WikiLeaks week years and years ago, which is that he did participate in a call with DeLong and McCasland and Weiss and others about this subject. So I'm glad to have gotten that on the record. And I still have many questions for John Podesta. So hopefully I'll do a proper in-depth interview with him at some point. In his October 1st email to Paradigm, Podesta rejected Grush's description. He recalled DeLong setting up a conference call, and he wrote that the group discussed declassifying Defense Department files and reducing the stigma for professionals who take UAP seriously. He added that in his view, Americans could handle the truth and didn't need to be acclimated. When WikiLeaks published DeLong's email to Podesta in 2016, none of Podesta's replies were included. No one could show he ever engaged in those emails, but now nearly 10 years later, he has confirmed the call took place. Paradigm also confirmed that Grush left Congressman Eric Burleson's staff around Labor Day, and a Burleson spokesman verified it. Grush had worked for the Missouri Republican for roughly a year. On the big picture with Pastor Larry Ragland, Burleson was also asked about Grush's Rogan claims. It's interesting to hear from Burleson since Grush was a special advisor for his staff longer than expected. And as you may remember from that interview, Grush addressed footage of non-human beings, a reported shoot down with reptilian beings, and conflict between different types of beings. Ragland asked whether any of it was new to him. He's told me these stories before, and we are doing everything we can to track down any evidence that might prove those narratives. You know, he did not leave his position in the military with all of the documents in hand. He did not pull an Edward Snowden and just, you know, exit with all of the material. He has his knowledge and understanding. According to Burleson, everything Grush says publicly first goes to the Defense Office of Pre-Publications and Security Review, known as DOPSER. Grush can point to where evidence might be, but he can't hand it all over. Burleson has to find out himself. And what's interesting about DOPSER is that usually it's only for those that are writing books that have held NDAs or clearances. doesn't matter if it's a fiction or non-fiction book, but in this case for Grush, for him to even to come forward and speak about certain things, he has to go through DOPSER first. The search leads to the video that Grush described. In it, people arrive at a crash site and find tall, blue-skinned Nordic-type beings on the ground. Grush told Rogan he watched that footage during his investigation and Burleson believes the government doesn't actually have it, but a contractor does. I have to cultivate that relationship, try to get that information myself. And from what I've been told, they're not willing to talk to anybody. And so that's the kind of what I'm having to deal with. I don't have it in my hands because he worked for me. He couldn't take it with him. so we're just relying on what his memory is and what he was able to see himself and then trying to track it down so that i can have the evidence myself that's a really big detail even when Grush was on Burleson's staff he still had to kind of tiptoe his way through it and here's an analogy he could only guide them down a dark hallway with just a little flashlight he could point to what doors to try to open, but he didn't have the keys. All he could offer were stories about what was waiting behind them. Burleson also limits what he will claim. He has not seen the footage. He calls himself the guy from the show me state, so he won't believe anything until he sees it. He has found no proof of a crash retrieval program that we know of, and his knowledge of the administration hasn't found anything either. Now we've heard the orb stories quite a few times from him but it's not the only reports that Burleson had heard. Grush and Gary Nolan have both described one type of UAP appearing and being chased off by after. Burleson was clear that he can't verify that claim but it's actually referring to the hitchhiker effect. What he can speak to was one night when he was at Skinwalker Ranch he was taken by Jay Stratton and Jay Stratton had described something following him home from Skinwalker Ranch and it affected his whole family when Raglan asked whether the same thing happened to Burleson burleson answered no but what he did say was that something happened overnight there was a strange conversation that he had with the people on the ranch and they gave an answer that i don't think many people expected they believe that there is this is a locality of not just demonic activity but really spiritual warfare that's occurring that this is a that this is an important location and of course from their perspective they're on the side of of god the kingdom of god and so um i don't know exactly i mean i don't know what to make of it but i'm just i just thought it was an interesting thing of note to know for people to know that yeah um that they're that they're born again Christians that are operating with that location okay now that is really interesting for some people a UFO encounter has made their faith stronger than ever for others it pulls them away from religion completely now that raises a really big question does researching UFOs lead us toward one true and mighty god or toward the idea that alien contact is a modern messiah put it simply do you see ET as a god or the existence of ET makes you believe even more that god is real that's a very important question so tell me your feedback in the comments when asked about people who claim they can summon orbs with their minds Burleson rejected that idea he compared it to an isolated tribe performing a ritual and then believing it caused a passing airplane to appear. As a Christian, he added, it is an area that he really won't explore into too much detail. The filings, the Podesta email, McCaslin's disappearance and Grush's exit from Burleson's office can all be verified. The footage, the beings in it and what appeared over the mesa can't be verified yet. The questions Burleson raised about orbs, hitchhiker effects and a spiritual side to this phenomenon are ones Jacques Vallée has studied for over 50 years. I cover what decades of research has shown him and how the phenomenon affects witnesses, so make sure to watch this video next. I'm Christina Gomez, that is it for today. I will see you again next time for another UFO News update. Be safe and remember, keep your eyes on the skies.