Unlock Incredible Joinery With Your CNC Router!

Jay Bates
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A vertical table on my CNC is the thing I miss the most about my last shop. It's simply a joinery monster for the CNC. Have a nice large slab? Slap some mortises on the bottom side and cut integral tenons on the ends of legs. Bam, instant table. It's just so much fun! Except when you realize you're running straight towards hurdles..
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If you have a CNC machine, I highly...
Highly recommend trying to figure out a way to put
a vertical table on it. My machine is an Avid CNC and
these machines are
basically an infinitely configurable platform.
You can make them literally as long as you want.
Pretty darn customizable in width.
I'm sure there's some limitations there by the gantry size,
but you can make them almost any size that you want.
You can cut wood with these with a spindle.
You can cut metal with these with this plasma.
You can laser engrave wood.
With the laser attachment you can do so much with this machine.
This is my second Avid machine on my first machine
I had a vertical table and now on this machine.
I'm gonna add one right here right in the front
So why would you want to add a vertical table the easiest
and simplest answer and the most exciting answer for me is
joinery
This is one of my favorite pieces I've ever made.
It's a pecan crotch slab coffee table
Bar inclusion area and this this one's kind of like cheating
with some black epoxy infill in the...
when you when you get a slab like
this all you have to do is flatten it
and throw some finish on it and bam you have something
that's an eye catcher and something that's gorgeous just
because of what it is. There's
so much character here but what makes it one
of my favorite pieces is there's a concealed drawer
down below there's mortise
and tenon joinery there's no mechanical fasteners in this entire
The entire piece, the...
Legs are mortise and tenon directly into the bottom of the slab,
so let's go down here and I'll show you
The maybe we can see it. Maybe we can't I'm not sure
They can so for the mortises. I simply cut three slots.
There's the radius of the slots poking out
And then on the tenons, on the end
of these boards, on the vertical table,
I cut three fingers, I guess you could say.
So it looks like this going into the slab.
And that's it. Just glue them together and you have a table.
So on this particular piece,
I didn't want the table to, or the slab to,
warp over time or have a cup in it.
So you can do c-channel, but what I chose
This is a sliding dovetail.
So here's the cap on the end and this dovetail slot was cut on the CNC.
It goes all the way through to the other side.
Well, not all the way through.
It stops close to the end of the other side.
And this rail right here is a sliding dovetail.
It's glued on the far end and there's a little bit of a gap right here.
So as this slab expands and contracts,
which won't be anywhere near the size of this gap.
The sliding dovetail will keep it nice and flat.
Well, if I'm doing a sliding dovetail rail right here,
it allows an opportunity for a
concealed drawer that slides out nice and easily.
And the joinery on this drawer is box joints.
That was cut on the vertical table of the CNC as well.
For the tenons the vertical table is used.
First a shoulder is established and then a spiral profile
cut is made for each of the three tenons.
Rinse and repeat for all four legs. A test fit confirms
the fit and you can see the mortises
are a little longer than the tenons are wide. Now I did this
just because it's easier to do and it
also allows a little bit of room for the epoxy to squeeze out.
You're of course not limited to mortise
and tenon joints though. If you have a table
Where you can clamp material vertically like this.
What other joints could you cut on the end of this board?
Well, you can cut dovetail joints.
You can cut integral dowels
to have through dowel holes where two pieces meet.
You can cut a waterfall joint with some decorative inlay.
You can do all kinds of fun stuff with the vertical table right here.
Now, this machine is five feet wide.
So, I think my vertical table is going
to be about three inches less than that.
I'm going to have an inch and a half gap on either side.
That way I can use those gaps on the side
to slide a clamp in and clamp close to the edge
if necessary.
On my last machine I had an array of dog holes so that way I can
use the top one in the middle as a pivot
and say put one over here in one of these
dog holes and that would be a specified angle
if I wanted to do an angled tenon.
And I used that angle feature exactly zero times.
So I'm not going to implement this, the angles on this particular one.
Although if I needed to do an angle at any given time,
I will have a vertical array of dog holes
or a vertical column of dog holes.
And I can simply use the flat work up here
to cut a desired size pie shaped wedge
or desired angle and clamp that angle.
Right to the vertical table and then put my piece on top
of that so there's no need for me to integrate angles
into this
What I do want to integrate, or what I do want to have,
is a bunch of slots for clamps.
I'm using clamps, no need to reinvent the wheel.
Clamps are going to be fine to just, well, clamp
your material all the way wherever you want,
rather than relying on what's typically used
in my workflow on the CNC,
and that is these hold down clamps that go into T-track. For this,
It's kind of sort of cumbersome and redundant because
A lot of the vertical stuff that I want to cut is thicker than,
say, 3 quarters of an inch,
which is where you would kind of sort
of be the majority of time on the horizontal table.
So if I'm clamping in a 4x4 beam right here,
then those types of clamps won't work.
So no need to reinvent the wheel. I'm using F-style clamps.
I need to have a lot of adjustments built
into this design for some very fine tuning.
There's a lot of angles that we have
to make sure meet up perfectly for the CNC to be precise.
So as the machine is built,
it is calibrated so that way it cuts square.
The gantry is squared up
so that way after the machine is homed, we know that we're...
We are cutting exactly perpendicular
in the X direction as opposed to the Y direction.
Well, I need to have that exact perpendicular
from the horizontal surface to the vertical
surface. So I need to be able to adjust the bottom in or out,
adjust the top in or out
to calibrate that.
I also need to be able to calibrate the right side in or out versus
the left side in or out to be exactly parallel with the X direction.
And I also need to make sure that the top
of the vertical table is exactly parallel with the
x-axis travel, so the specified z-height.
So if I drop my spindle over here and jog it all
the way over to here, the top of the spoilboard needs
to be exactly flush with that plane. So a
lot of adjustment needs to be built in and the way I'm going
to get this adjustment is with some
I'm going to have some T-nuts and...
Set screws. So these are three quarter inch long set screws,
quarter 20 and then a quarter 20 T-nut.
That'll give me a lot of adjustment in many directions.
And I believe I haven't thought out in my head,
I haven't designed it quite yet,
to have four on each one of these beams. I also need
to make sure that each one of these beams is the exact height.
Left and right, so that way all the stuff lines up.
And I also need to have a way to clamp this to the machine,
to secure this to the machine.
There's a few different ways that you can go about this.
And one of the ways is these roll-in t-nuts that come with the machine.
So this machine is basically a bunch of extruded aluminum
bolted together with roll-in t-nuts
and bolts of various different sizes and types.
Here's one right here. So there's those same two roll-in t-nuts
and two bolts right here allow you to mount anything to the rail.
I thought about and I initially wanted to use
this setup to bolt it to the machine but the
downside of that is then I have a bolt sticking out
of the front of the vertical table and that
may or may not get in the way of actually putting material uh well
the full width if I was ever to
use the full width or maybe uh from one side
to the next bolt you know it basically it's limiting
So I'm not going to go that route.
And instead, for this top rail,
I'm actually going to drill through the rail.
Just this top slot right here, four times, one, two, three, four,
and that'll allow me to get the top secured exactly where I want to,
really close to where the cutting is going to happen,
and then for every one of these securing points all
the way along these bottom two rails, I'm going to put the hole
in the vertical table slightly above it, and then run a bolt through
and have a piece on the back to allow me to tighten that bolt.
And clamp it down on the front side of the bolt.
I'm going to have a T nut on the well on the front side of the table.
I'll have a T nut and the head of the bolt will
be on the back of the table or the inside of the table.
So that way I can clamp it down.
And if the bolt is sticking through the T nut too far,
I can add washers to the other side.
So that way nothing is sticking out the front
and I should have a nice flat reference surface all the way across.
So that I have the most amount of options.
Now on my horizontal table, I use these bench dog,
well dog holes and all of these bench
dogs to reference and to have repeatability.
To know exactly where my material is when I start my job.
And I want to have that same feature when I make the vertical table.
So now I know exactly where this corner is in my software
and I can start my job from
from the exact same spot every single time.
I want to have a bunch of these dogs in a vertical column,
a few different vertical columns,
so I know exactly where the new corner is up against the dog
and up against the front of the table right there.
Vertical, let's see, let's see, bench dogs,
slots, I think that's pretty much it.
So now I need to jump into the computer
and take all of my measurements with me
and get this designed out real quick.
The first tool path is a scoring tool
path. So this goes in by 0.1 inch all
the way around the perimeter and this is
just to establish a very crisp
and perfect shoulder with no tear out. This
is a spiral down climb cut.
Then the actual pocketing toolpath that creates the shape of the tenon
which is a dog bone shape.
This is just an offset profile.
So I took the profile of the tenon itself and then offset it
large enough to cover the rest of the material.
So in one sense it is kind of an inefficient toolpath
because there's a lot of wasted air cutting around the side of it.
But on the other side
on the other side of that coin I guess is the fact
that this is just a prototype kind of a project.
mass producing these. If I was mass producing it,
I think I would take a little bit of time
to really optimize this particular toolpath to save this,
to cut this time down quite a bit.
The tenon creation for the three and one eighth of an inch tenons,
the entire toolpath took exactly
six minutes. And for the three and a half or 3.625 inch long tenons,
that took exactly six
All of the half-inch diameter work is done and
That bit I know is is it's really sharp.
I used that half inch diameter bit to cut the slots and
the spoil board for the t-nuts
or for t-track rather as well as all the dog holes and flawless
results. On this MDF not so flawless results.
Got a lot of fuzzies everywhere and that's because this
MDF just doesn't feel like that good of quality.
It's the first time I've used this product.
Normally I drive 45 minutes one way to Tupelo,
Mississippi to get my MDF from Home Depot.
But I found this 15 minutes away for $10 cheaper a sheet
and I thought you know what MDF is MDF
doesn't matter. Well my opinion on that has changed a little bit.
This just doesn't feel
like it's as compressed as much as the stuff
that I'm used to getting I guess. This feels more like
powder whereas the top layer of the other stuff feels more like
a pressed layer of it's not resin
but pressed layer of resin, essentially. It feels harder.
I think this is going to be just fine for what I'm doing with it,
but because this is a little
bit lesser quality and I noticed it after having it in the shop,
I stayed away from the perimeter
quite a bit. I'm gonna have a decent amount
of waste all the way around these two sides, or three
sides over here, and that's
because this front edge was sticking out in the sun when I had the
door open and I could see it, visibly see it,
swelling up right at the edges. So you know what?
Forget about the inconsistency at the edges
and just cut it on the inside.
Anyway, all the half inch diameter cuts are done.
I'm going to switch over to a quarter inch diameter bit,
cut this out, and then repeat the process for the second layer.
This MDF, this MDF came
from Home Depot 45 minutes away.
This MDF came from a local lumber yard 12 minutes away.
51 or 52 dollars a sheet, 41 dollars a sheet. So,
I thought, you know what, let's save a little bit of time.
I just found this particular source.
I'll save some time, I'll save some money,
and I'll save some fuel, which is money,
to get the cheaper stuff,
and everything will be good because it's all MDF, right?
Well, it was on this day that I realized MDF
is not all created equally.
This stuff, I mean, visibly it looks different,
but this stuff just feels more porous
than the stuff that I'm used to working with.
And after cutting it a little bit it does feel
a little bit more porous especially in the cuts.
And these cuts I'm not getting the best results from.
Now I know that bit is nice and sharp
because I used it to make all the dog holes
on this on the spoilboard as well as the
slots for the t-track and it was just flawless cuts.
So getting some fuzzy
results which are less than desirable for what
but for what this is going to be used for.
I don't think it's that big of a deal.
Got all the dog holes cut,
which is more dog holes than I need to actually work with it.
But I wanted a bunch of extra holes available so I could store all
the extra bench dogs that I have in my way over there on the cart.
And then I've got my counterbores
for the t-nuts that will be used to secure this
to the machine, slots for clamps,
and I need two of these layers. But before I can
If I can...
swap out for the other sheet,
I need to switch over to a quarter inch end mill and cut this
actual perimeter out.
Oh and also all of the quarter 20 mounting holes, I've got to get those
cut as well. But yeah, not all MDF is created equally.
This will be fine for what it's used for though.
The bench dogs that I'm using,
the actual shaft of the bench dog that goes in the hole is around
an inch long which is convenient
because I can use that or those to perfectly align these two
panels before securing them together.
It goes through the top layer and the bottom layer so
with enough of these installed these two panels are perfectly aligned
and on the back side that's
where the t-nuts will be installed for which is up in this orientation.
The t-nuts for the set screws
Can be installed and
And I didn't worry about a counterbore on the back side
because the set screw itself is what's
going to be interacting with the machine rails.
So it really doesn't matter if there's a counterbore
or not. And to get these two panels locked together I'm
not using glue. I just didn't
want to have a bunch of squeeze out and all these dog holes
and all the clamp holes or clamp slots.
All right.
Squeeze out just sounds like a nightmare here. And then also
I don't want to have a situation where the glue is applied
a little bit more liberally in one area and not in the other.
And then you kind of modify or change the thickness of the panel.
Although we're talking thousands of an inch,
it's not that big of a deal for a size this big.
But the squeeze out is really what wanted me to not use glue here.
So I'm using screws
and anytime you pass a screw from one layer to the next below it,
You risk the the chance of as the screw goes through
the back side of the first layer it
mushrooms out and then as it enters the first uh
the top layer of the second piece it can mushroom
up and that little mushroom can cause
an inconsistency in thickness or spread these two
panels apart. So I'm pre-drilling all of my holes
and then using my body weight close to the hole
while I drive the screw and that'll keep the panels nice
and tight together while they're locked in place
by one or 35 or 40 screws with everything locked together
the bench dogs can be removed and on the
front side all we get is the t-nuts in the counterbores now
these t-nuts did have to be counter
bored or i do want them to be counterbored below the surface
because i don't want the head of the
t-nut to interfere with the registration
of the workpiece whatever i'm holding onto the vertical
table and these t-nuts on the front side
are going to accept the threads through the back
Let's take a look for the mounting bolts.
Every time I use this machine, I'm constantly gathering information.
This is the first time that I've maxed out
the vertical capacity, and in this case, I
can get a 43.5 inch long board clamped to the vertical table
and cut a tenon on the
other side.
And that tenon is, in this case, 1.6 inches in length.
I can get a longer piece if I switch out to a smaller diameter bit,
like a 1.25 inch diameter
I'm going to do a diameter bit with a 1 inch length
of cut instead of the one I'm using now.
But that's just a, you know, topic for another day.
It's good to get that little bit of
information and just keep it in the back of my head.
All these cuts turned out great,
and there was a couple things to learn
and tweak along the way, like scoring cut,
yes or no on a scoring cut. All of these were cut with an up cut bit.
And if I bring this one right here
and let the camera focus, you see this, just this
little itty bitty fuzz right there, like this is being so nitpicky.
That's the only bit of tear out that I had without,
oh, there's another little fuzz,
without a scoring cut.
When you cut in the vertical orientation like
this and you use an up cut bit, your cuts
are pretty much always flawless.
So how much difference does no scoring cut make versus a scoring cut?
Well, not much of a difference,
but it does make them pretty much flawless. So this...
Here is the scoring cut. It's nice and crisp.
One thing that you may or may not pick up on is this flat right here
at the top of the keyhole. That's not supposed to be flat.
I was experimenting with the scoring cut
and this scoring cut was actually just a little bit too deep.
That one was a full one-eighth of an inch.
I had to back it off quite a bit in order to not interfere with this.
All right, I'm probably going to repeat myself here.
I can't remember what I have and haven't said.
Um, and I think I said I was going to skip all the fiddly bit,
but I wanted to explain how this is,
how this is adjusted and actually how easy it's adjusted.
It's going to be a little time consuming.
Uh, but anyway, so the top row here, we got five.
T-nuts that have a hole drilled through
at that location through that top rail with a bolt
installed from the back side with a series of washers
and a lock washer so that I get maximum
thread engagement on these T-nuts without it sticking through
the front. Of course if the
bolt sticks through the front of the T-nut
then the material as you put it in place will be
adjusted inappropriately.
It's not going to register flat against the vertical table so
Maximum thread engagement through those t-nuts
and right next to each one of these t-nuts is a
hole for a t-nut on the back side
and I installed a set screw through it. That's what this wrench is
is engaged with is a set a set screw.
Now because I use the machine itself
To cut these dog holes perpendicular to the top edge,
which was already cut with the machine,
I know that if I clamp a straight edge to the top
of this or some type of stop block to the
top surface of the vertical table,
referencing off of the already surfaced spoil board, I know
that this line should be absolutely perfect vertical
in relation to the whole setup here.
So there's no real calibration this way as far
as the right side going up or down or left side up or down.
First thing I need to calibrate is along this top edge making sure
that it is parallel in this direction as far as the left and right
side coming forward or backward with the travel in the X direction.
So the very first thing that I did is I got
these bolts finger tightened to where they were engaged and holding
but they weren't compressing the spring washer that I have
on the or the lock washer on the back side of the bolt.
And then I figured out
which one of these sides was sticking out the furthest with none of the
set screws engaged at all. It happened to be this side.
From there I creeped up as close as I could
get using a flashlight which is somewhere around here.
It's probably in my pocket. It is in my
pocket. Using a flashlight behind
this precision rod here shining from the side and as soon as
As soon as daylight was removed,
I set my Y zero with my pendant here.
This particular pendant has three different speeds,
100X, 10X, and 1X.
And that's basically thousandths of an inch.
At the 100X, you're moving a tenth of an inch
per click on the dial here.
Let me turn that to off so I don't mess anything up.
So each click...
Daylight is 1 tenth of an inch on 100x.
On 10x, it's 1 one hundredth of an inch.
On 1x, it's 1 thousandth of an inch.
You can be very, very precise moving this into place
by a thousandth of an inch, which is really, really nice.
So I got it by the one thousandth of an inch to where daylight
is eliminated over here and then set my Y zero.
From there, I can move out and over to the far side.
And get to Y0, use the set screw to push it away from the table
so that the spoil board loses daylight in between the precision rod
and the spoil board, the vertical table, and then clamp down my screw.
As I clamp down my screw, it's going to pull it a little bit further
and tighter into the horizontal table up there,
into the machine, and a little bit of daylight.
was shown again. So then I switch over to the set screw,
crank it just a little bit more,
and pull it back. And you're kind of trying
to establish the tension on those bolts to where
it locks it into place, but it's not so loose that it'll come apart,
right? So once I got this
one done, I moved over to this,
or I moved over to this one, then I moved over to this one,
And this is the final one right here in the middle,
trying to establish the...
This vertical plane along the X direction,
that's the only one left to adjust.
And what's interesting is when I first set this at Y0, when I went over
to here, I had about 8 thousandths of an inch to move this out.
So if you think about it, right off the bat,
my error of this calibration
when I started was 8 thousandths of an inch along 50,
I don't know, 55 inches of travel, something like that.
So that right there really isn't that bad.
You're not going to notice eight thousandths
of an inch along that span on a board, say
five, six inches wide.
You're really not.
But this type of micro adjustment essentially allows
this setup to be dialed in.
Really, really precise. One thing to note is that these top bolt holes
are slightly higher in elevation than the set screws.
So, without this bottom piece clamped to the bottom rail,
it's going to want to, as I tighten the bolts on top,
it's going to want to pull the top forward,
which would essentially kick the bottom out.
And it was doing that just slightly, so I clamped it into place.
Okay.
You really can't crank on this type of a setup
because there will be some flex in this MDF
vertical table. It is two pieces screwed together
with a bunch of screws, but there will be some
type of little flex there
and what you don't want to end up with is the top side being pushed in.
You don't want a wavy surface.
Then it comes back down over the set screw and so on as we go to
these next few layers. But that's the process anyway.
I'm only referencing off of the top say
Quarter of an inch or three-eighths of an inch off
of here to dial in this first screw.
From there, I'm not going to use the machine at all.
I'm going to use the largest square that I have
to get the rest of the vertical orientation plumb,
I guess you could say, with these top set screws.
But it is a little bit fiddly.
I figured I'd run through the process here,
and I'm gonna run through the rest of this
off-camera. This one last screw is ready to go.
Oh, what I wanted to show you also while you have you here is
how close you can get this very very precisely with this pendant.
So let me zoom in. So the pendant, like I said,
can be moved in very precise increments.
So my safe distance out here to where I can jog
in the X direction where these clamps aren't interfering with
The spindle at all is four inches.
As a matter of fact, Y negative four.
So once I'm in a position to where I can go Y positive.
And nothing is going to be in the way.
I have my pendant set to Y at 100x.
Let's actually go back to off.
That way I can change the dial to zero without adjusting anything.
Now with the dial at zero, I can go to Y at 100x,
and it's reading at negative four on the digital readout.
From negative four, I can go in 39 clicks.
And because this is numbered on the dial, I can quickly go into 39.
And I know at 39...
I am 1 tenth of an inch away from where the spoil board should be.
Let's go back to off, reset our dial to zero,
go back to Y, and change it from 100X to 10X.
Now from here, I can go in 9 clicks, and that'll leave me
at 10 thousandths of an inch away from where I need to be.
And of course, while I'm doing this,
I'm making sure I'm not going to hit anyway.
Anyway, Y, 10X, I'm going down to...
That is nine. That's nine right there.
And if I shine my flashlight on the back side,
I can still see a little bit of a gap on the back side.
So I should be, as the digital readout reads,
ten thousandths of an inch away from where I need to be.
So now let's go back to off. Reset our
dial to zero just for easier math.
Go back to Y. Change it to 1X. Now I'm moving one thousandth of
1,000th of an inch, and I can go down.
Very carefully to 9, so I should be 1,000th of an inch away.
Now, of course, I haven't calibrated this yet,
but we're pretty darn close to begin with.
And from here, I still see daylight, and I am 2,000th of an inch away.
So let's go one more. According to Y0, I'm 1,000th of an inch away.
And right there on the digital readout it reads Y zero.
So I'm at the exact zero point that I established over here.
Already verified there, there, and there.
And now at this location it looks like I'm like
a thousandth of an inch off or something like that.
I need to use the set screw to push it away from the table.
So I'm not going to mess with this.
Go back to off so I don't accidentally bump it.
The spindle is in the perfect location for where it needs to be.
Where's my wrench? Here's my wrench.
I'm an idiot. Right here I'm looking for daylight on the back side.
I can't zoom in and show you
super good with this. Maybe I can.
Maybe that other camera is picking it up. But I'm looking
for daylight on the other side
and I'm going to probably get in the way. I'm going to tighten
this set screw so it's going to push the spoil board into the spindle.
Let me go this side
real quick. Push the spoil board into the spindle
and right there I lost daylight.
So now we are contacting, we're touching.
Now I'm going to switch over to the back side and tighten
this bolt real quick, which will take just a second.
I'm not going to crank on it, I'm just
going to give it just an ever so slight adjustment,
compress the lock washer, and then just
a tiny bit more. Not much at all.
Let's see what type of a change that made over here.
It looks like I can see just a smidgen of daylight once again
so I'm going to crank the set screw a
smidge just to put some tension on the whole system.
Daylight is lost and just an ever so slight
adjustment on the bottom side once again.
It's like an eighth of a turn with my ratchet. I'm
looking at the lock washer
and it looks like we have a smidgen more of compression. So from here
that bolt on the back side should have pulled
this away from the spindle a smidge and it did
not so i need to make a slight slight adjustment
on the bottom side once again adjust this bottom
one that was another eighth of a turn
or so maybe a quarter of a turn and then from here
looking for daylight ever so slight daylight
so now i'm going to make a slight adjustment on the
set screw to push it back to the spindle
and that looks pretty darn good now i have tension
On the set screw it's tight
and the lock washer on the back side is completely compressed so that
shouldn't wiggle out. Although I'm going
to give it one more crank just just to verify that lock
washer is nice and secure. I don't want to go too crazy
with this like I said because if I adjust it
too much then what I'll have is a wavy pattern in the vertical table
and that's not what we want.
But we're talking about...
thousandths of an inch here
and it's all going to be distributed through the length of whatever
piece that you have. so right there. that's
my final adjustment. that should be enough
pressure on both of these screws so that it's locked
into place. now this plane is perfectly
parallel to the y travel. this top plane
is perfectly parallel to the horizontal spoil board.
The only thing left to do is to make sure that those stay that way
while the bottom of it is
either kicked out or pushed in to get the correct position
so that we are perpendicular to the
vertical table. All that to say a bunch more adjustments to be made.
That's the process.
A lot of back and forth and it's probably gonna take me a little bit.
So I'll see you later.
With the mortises cut on the legs,
it's time for the tenons on the rails.
And one of my main reasons for pursuing
this particular CNC machine was its open frame
concept.
You can make just about anything you want for it
and mount it just about anywhere you
want.
I made a vertical table
which allows for the joinery to be cut on the end of pieces.
And just like with the horizontal table,
The dog holes in the vertical table allow
for repeat positioning as their exact location
is calibrated and stored in my machine file on the computer.
This makes batching out tenons, dovetails,
dowels, anything similar to that to be very
quick and easy.
The tenon cuts are broken into three tool paths
and there's room for improvement in
each one.
First, a shoulder scoring cut is made
and this is a climb cut all the way around the
To ensure that there is absolutely zero tear out
on the shoulder of the tenon.
An improvement here would be to make this toolpath a full depth cut.
You know, a single pass full depth cut.
Because the amount of material being removed,
it's less than a tenth of an inch, so it's not that much at all.
The second toolpath is a climb pocket toolpath to remove
the waste down to the exact size of the tenon.
As you can see,
The bit unnecessarily raises and lowers between passes and this is an
inefficient use of time and travel.
Because there wasn't much material to
remove, I don't think it was ever
the same diameter as the router bit, a
faster method would have been to use
a profile toolpath set to the outside of
the tenon vector with a spiral ramp. This would allow the bit to
Spiral around the tenon all the way down
to its final depth without lifting a single time.
That would have been much faster
All right. Here's what I've settled
on for the final calibration vertically.
This is the largest precision square that I have.
It's a 26 by 16 square
It's a Woodpecker square. So they're supposed to be really precise
That's the best thing that I have to measure my actual finished product
in woodworking or measure anything in the shop
So if it needs any more precision than this well
at that point you're getting into tool and die
and not woodworking. So anyway up against
the table here just using gravity it's not clamped
down at all. Up against the table here we have
no light coming through this top edge and down
near the bottom we have quite a bit
of light shining through right here. So
that tells me the bottom of the table needs to come out
and I'm going to do that.
On a per column basis,
get that first column done, go to the second one,
get this second column done, and so on.
I went with box joints for the drawer joinery,
and this was the first time that I tried
making vertical table joint cuts without
first running a shoulder scoring toolpath, and the results were great.
A quick test fit of the
joint confirms the fit,
and the rest of the joints are knocked out. A couple stop blocks
in the vertical table direction make batching out all
of these cuts quick and easy.
Now I'm not sure how much of the clean cuts were due
to not being aggressive with the cut versus
the great cutting properties of ash.
Ash is probably my favorite hardwood to use with a CNC
machine because it just cuts so cleanly.
Outro take two. I had to scrap the last outro. It's a
few days later and I've already calibrated the table
and Houston we have some problems.
We have a few different problems.
I think we have solutions to those problems but we've got
some problems. So everything is installed
and calibrated and I've made a bunch of test cuts
and whatnot and uh well first off let me
show you what I did to the back side here
because I didn't cover any of this.
So back here you can see how the bottom
part is attached to the machine.
The bolts go through. This is a piece of
Ash, it is about an inch thick, inch and an eighth thick,
inch and a half wide, something like that.
Just scrap wood, biggest size I can get it milled down to.
So that's how it's attached to the bottom two rails.
Like I said, top five bolts up there.
And I did not want the vertical weight,
I didn't want the whole weight of it to be held on by just those bolts.
So before I took the stop blocks off and I had it all calibrated,
I came back and added...
Four of these blocks, two on each side.
It's just a big piece of scrap wood milled flat and then
glued to the spoil board. And it's touching the rail here.
And I did this on the sides because
that's where the strongest part of the rail is,
where it connects to the leg. Rather than in the
middle, I didn't want the rail to sag over time.
And I did not want, like I said, all of the weight
to be held on by those bolts up there.
And then the pressure of squeezing against the rail right
Right here, so.
Four stop blocks, two on each side.
Remember me complaining about the quality?
It just felt like this was a low quality piece of MDF.
That box has been checked.
This MDF is nothing like any MDF I've ever experienced.
I've made a lot of flat surface joinery cuts
to assemble stuff like this, this cart right here.
This is all...
CNC box joints essentially, mortise and tenon joints,
cut in the flat orientation to build a
structure. Those boxes up there are the same thing,
built or cut flat with interlocking joinery.
And every time you do that you have to measure
the thickness of your material because the thickness
of your material determines the length
of your joint where they interact and form a 90 degree angle
So I measure material constantly and thickness
also for just general CNC use and MDF is incredibly consistent
from piece to piece to piece to piece. I've never been burned by MDF.
It is always within like one or two thousandths of 0.750.
And with this stuff, this is wild.
I started to realize like some of my problems
are probably not due to execution, but also
due to this material.
So I measured with my calipers all through the slots,
around the perimeter, and there's
a wild discrepancy in thickness.
The swing that I have is 28 thousandths of an inch, maximum to minimum.
And that's uncharacteristic of good quality MDF.
This MDF is two layers not glued together,
but they are screwed nice and tight and I
can't see any visible gaps in any one of the seams that's exposed.
So I'm not thinking that the inconsistency
in thickness is due to that mushroom in between
layers when a screw passes through, plus I pre-drilled for all that.
So what's going on with this stuff?
Well, it's just wildly inconsistent,
which makes it a pain in the butt to try and get
this stuff, get all the adjustments dialed in nice and perfectly.
Now, I did it the best that I could.
And...
I'm still seeing some bad results.
Another problem that I found with the execution of my design is I
did not put enough of these mounting locations,
these screws, bolts rather, bolts and set screws
along that top rail. So really I should have
at least I think one more in between each one of
these and the reason for that is this top rail right here,
it's behind here but I'll point to
I'll point to this one, this top rail.
I'm wanting to come behind it with clamps and clamp my material down.
And that will allow me to clamp way up here with the clamps.
Unfortunately, the highest I can actually get
with the clamps is this right here.
That's as high as I can clamp on this board.
And the reason being is if I clamp to the rail,
now the rail is back here.
And you see this gap in between the horizontal
and vertical table? If I clamp back here,
what I noticed is in areas like the left side of this dog,
it's in the middle of these two
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pull-down bolts, and it deflected the front rail,
or the vertical table rather, into the front rail.
So that changes my angle. Therefore, when my board is up in here,
and it's supposed to be exactly flush with the x-axis,
it's off on a little bit of an angle.
I'm exaggerating there, but it's off on a little bit of an angle,
you.
and that throws off the results.
May or may not pick up on this piece right here
but the left tail where my thumb is is sticking out
the appropriate distance and the right tail is
Pretty much flush. So that means that this is
Not cutting properly and it was cut right here.
So hmm what can we do about that particular problem?
Well in that case I can use the machine to cut
a dado all the way through here right on that seam.
Probably over or right at an inch deep
because I've got two layers of MDF on the horizontal table.
So let's just say we cut a slot or cut a dado,
put a piece of hardwood in there that is
is consistently thick along its entire length.
So mill down a piece through the planer that is
several inches longer and then cut off
the planer snipe, stick it in there.
That will stop this from compressing in and get better results.
So there's a solution to that
particular problem. But as it is,
I can't clamp higher than that clamp right there. So therefore,
the top of this board, I don't know if it's going
to show up on camera because I'm probably going
to wiggle the camera too,
but this board is wiggling a considerable amount. Is that amount
of wiggle with the clamp down there as high
as it can be going to be a problem?
Well, I did cut another test joint, and disregard the sides
not lining up, one of my vectors shifted when I was designing it
and didn't realize it, but disregarding this not lining up,
this actually is a pretty darn good joint.
It's an end mill only dovetail joint, so the pins are rounded
on the interior side right there, and I would call that acceptable,
if the vectors lined up appropriately, but that's my error.
So I'd call that acceptable, but I don't like it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like this just.
Drives me bonkers and then I'm limiting how much I can clamp in there
because I can't get all the
way up with the clamps.
So that's kind of a concern when you're cutting stuff like this.
The mass of the leg, if I'm doing like a tenon on the end of the leg,
it's not going to deflect enough to matter
at all. When I was adjusting this,
I was talking about, I believe I mentioned this,
due to my mounting locations with the
uh securing bolt on top of the set screw
and then the set screw on top of the securing bolt
as i clamp this one down right here it's going
to push the top of the table in
create a belly out right here
and then push the bottom of this in that's just the you know the
physics behind this right well i thought i
was experiencing that when i put my square up here
and my square was what 16 by 24 i think is what it
was something like that so it didn't go down
Full length of the table
and I was experiencing what I thought was a belly right where I
thought it would be.
So okay I'm getting kind of frustrated
and tinkering with all this and getting it the
best that I can get it and it just still has what feels like
a little bit of a belly right
here.
All right well I continued got it all done
and then it dawned on me my square's not going
all the way down the table so let's put
a straight edge I got a 50 something inch Veritas
straight edge bought that many years ago
and by the way that's one of the greatest things
Things that you can keep in your shop for dialing stuff in.
And I put it up against the whole vertical run of the table
and just, uh, I'm sorry,
unlike what I thought, there was no belly here.
And if there was a belly here, well then the
opposite should hold true down here where it should
be sunk in because the mounting bolts
are lower than the set screws, right?
Well it wasn't. It was like perfectly flat. It is
perfectly flat from like right here down.
And I'm thinking, what in the world? So it's just this top
five inches or so that's pushed in on an angle.
Well that's kind of strange. Maybe I've got these bolts too tight.
So as it sits right now,
these bolts are actually backed out to where there's no
tension on these bolts at all.
It's literally just sitting there and held in place
by the clamps down here
and the vertical stop blocks that I have on the back side.
So these these bolts are not doing anything.
They're not deflecting the top surface
in at all and I've got a considerable amount
of upward lean on this this entire panel.
I'm thinking, what in the world?
How is...
How is that? How is that going on?
Well, it's this low quality MDF over here.
Here we go.
I have the offcuts just sitting in place on the floor,
just sitting on the floor.
And this corner over here is lifted
by a good half inch off the floor just as it sits right
there. It's not sitting flat at all.
Now, of course, the concrete floor is probably not
Not perfectly flat, but it's lifting up over here.
So is this MDF good?
Out of the box, or from the store rather.
Well, what are the odds of both of these pieces of MDF,
both of them having a little bit of a bend in the panel,
at the exact same location?
Well, if you think about it,
both sheets came off of the stack at the store
in the same exact orientation
and were slid into my truck at the same orientation.
Then I unloaded them and set them down in the same exact orientation.
Then I lifted them up and put them on the table the exact same way
and referenced off of the same corner to cut each one of these pieces.
So, if this bunk of MDF was sitting long-term at the store
and it had a little bit of a wave in it, which sometimes you do see,
and that wave telegraphed into the material,
It's completely plausible that...
I included a little bit of a wave in the MDF from the very beginning
because like I said that
those that entire top row of mounting bolts there's there's
no tension on them that's just
essentially free floating as it is.
So um how much is that lean? That's a considerable amount.
I can get my fingernail uh my my fingernail in between the material
and the spoil board right
there on both of these. You can probably see it on this one.
It's a considerable amount.
Uh, which is, is it affecting everything?
Here's the thing.
When you're dialing in a machine,
like let's just say that jointer and the manual gives
you specifications of over this particular distance,
you need to have an accuracy of
say four thousandths of an inch.
And for whatever reason you're,
you're tinkering with it and tinkering with it.
And you can't seem to get it dialed in perfectly.
Like say it needs to be four thousandths
and you're at six thousandths, right?
There comes a point in woodworking where you just simply say,
you know what, let's see what it'll actually produce.
And if you joint a flat board where you're not technically
within specs, but if you joint the board flat and that board
is suction cupped to the table, it feels like it's dead flat.
And then you measure it with the best tools that you have.
And as far as you can tell it's flat, then you're chasing diminishing
returns and you're wasting your time trying to get it even.
Even further because the results speak for themselves.
The results are acceptable.
In this case, I would probably consider that acceptable.
You put glue in there and those little gaps from the tooling will kind
of disappear. And I see more problems with my feeds and speeds making
this perfect than I do from the actual setup on the machine.
But the shortcomings with this
This top edge of it being leaned too far
and then I can't clamp to the table.
It's quite annoying. So I've got a few different options.
Option number one is what I'm going to start
with and that is I'm just going to roll with it.
I know that there's problems and it's one
of those things that's probably going to bug me
more than anything rather than having bad results.
So I'm going to roll with it.
But as I start making stuff,
if I'm seeing some problems that are too much for the standard of
Then at that point, I'll consider making some changes.
Change number one is probably going to
be taking this off, taking all the metal out of it,
not the screws on the back side,
and putting it on the machine and flattening the front surface.
Just enough to get rid of
pencil lines that I'll put around
the low spot, which will be right here.
That's option number one.
Option number two is I may get frustrated with the material to begin
with because I know this material is not really quality stuff.
And I may pull a mulligan and go
get some better quality MDF at the same place
that I've always gotten MDF from,
but the better stuff. And by the way, you can hear.
You can hear and feel a difference in the consistency or the,
I guess the density of
this material when you interact with it versus
the stuff that I've been used to.
So I may get some better MDF
and completely redo this with a couple minor changes.
And those minor changes will be to, no matter what, if I take this off
and put it back on, I am going to do this seam right down here to stop
this from compressing and kind of sort of lock it all into place.
That way I can use that front rail.
Something else that will help me use that front rail more.
Efficiently, easily, whatever is I think I'm going
to do a little bit differently with
the set screws here. This is staying pretty flat down here,
so I think I'm going to keep that.
But if I was to do this over again,
I would have three holes through the rail instead of one. The
first rail, the first hole is already there.
I'm going to use that hole. The second two holes.
The other two holes on either side, I'll probably just drill a hole
and tap it for quarter 20 bolts and put a bolt through the back side
as my set screws rather than using the set screw from the front.
What that'll do is put the clamping pressure even and horizontal
and then one on either side to counteract the other one
so you don't have that twisting or bending that I'm getting with this.
Theoretically speaking, that little twisting and bending.
I don't think it's that big of a deal, but
if I'm going to redo it, then there's that.
As far as the work holding and design of the table, it's fine.
I don't think I'll make any structural changes to this or any capacity
or feature changes to this.
It's just, I mean, it's basic dog holes and slots, right?
I'm not sure if I mentioned this,
but due to the slot spacing and the dog hole orientation,
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there are a couple of these that I can't get clamps
on both sides of. For example,
the distance between the clamp bar
and the clamp head right here is not enough
you
for me to come in on the left side in this orientation,
very
come in from a clamp right here,
and get to this. So maybe shorten this a smidgen.
Anyway, I designed all this so that way you can still get up
much.
to a 55 inch wide panel
all the way across here with a combination of different locations too.
Uh, put your vertical piece.
I didn't want to just put a set of dogs on one side and just
keep clamping from that same corner all the way across,
uh, because you run into,
there are a couple different dimensions
where you run into situation where
you don't, if the side of this material right here is say right there,
that gap isn't great enough
to put a clamp in and then you don't have
that distance right here to put a clamp in
from this side over there. So there's a couple different
Very odd dimensions that you may run
into if you simply just start at one side and go this way
So that's why I've got a couple different
Vertical locations and then each slot width on the row is different
It's more narrow over here a little bit wider
a little bit wider and then the widest
So with a different combination
of where you mount it you can get up to a 55 inch wide panel. Now
how often are you going to do like a 55 inch wide dovetail joint
or something crazy like that?
I don't know but in the time and age of doing things that are just
super cool and big and over the top
and awesome that basically everyone's starting to do.
I think it would be pretty cool to do like a big conference table
or dining table or some type of
big table where on one side over there you have a set of legs
and maybe a traditional apron over
there but on the other side you basically have
a continuation of the top that goes vertical and
you have a really long connected joint to connect them.
That would be really cool. So if that's even
in the thought process I'll take
that into consideration as far as maximum capacity.
So technically it's done.
Technically, it's operational.
Technically, it's driving me bonkers on the inside because of the
mistakes and errors that I found.
If you were to redo this, I got a question for you. Knowing
everything that I've said in this video,
would you use two sheets of good quality MDF that I
know is out there? Or would you just say,
you know what, forget about it. I'm going to use
two sheets of 18 millimeter Baltic birch. Baltic birch for quality MDF.
Interesting choice. That's it for this one.
I'm, like I said, just going to keep using it until
I get too annoyed with it and have to replace it.
Hopefully you learned something from this video,
and onward.
