TMZ Live - 9/15/26

Welcome to TMZ Live. So there is more evidence about Hayden Panettiere having a longtime drug dealer. And it traces right back to the condominium that she owned for years, where there were three very mysterious people making regular visits with small bags. Right. Three people that neighbors in that West Hollywood building believed to be drug dealers. Because of the fact that it was the same three people. They said two women, one man, and they were the only ones who would show up repeatedly for years. And that they would deliver small bags. The door would open. Someone would take the bag. They said sometimes it was Hayden. They also said that they saw bags that actually had the name Brian on it. So those things were being delivered. We should say Brian Hickerson. Brian Hickerson, of course, is her boyfriend, who we know the neighbors have had issues with the owners of the building, have had issues with, they had posters up saying, we don't want him in our building. So that's what the neighbors were seeing. Now, we should say that these neighbors, before Hayden died, suspected they were drug dealers, and talked about it, and groused about it, because they didn't want him in the neighborhood. And they say that, by the way, they saw one of those people show up the week that Hayden died. So that would have been before she obviously got on the plane to go to South Carolina. Now, we are also told, now the DEA, we talked about this, the DEA jumped on this case almost from the get-go. And we know that they have possession of Hayden's phone. And that phone, we are told, contains a slew of text messages between Hayden and the drug dealer. And that evidence, we're told, is becoming the centerpiece of a case that they seem to be building, targeting this drug dealer in a very similar way to the way they ended up getting Mac Miller's drug dealer. The phone always knows. The phone carries all the information about whether, in this case, they have text messages laying out that there were black market pills purchased, oxycodone. And they, of course, we told you that that's what the DEA believes happened to Hayden the morning before she died. That she took one of those pills that was likely, they believe, laced with fentanyl. Now, the toxicology results have not come in yet. It's probably not going to happen for at least a couple of weeks. Obviously, that could change things. But our information from the various people we've spoken with is they feel pretty confident that is the culprit. Now, remember, Brian Hickerson, Hayden flew from Los Angeles to South Carolina with a bag of meds. And presumably, some of those black market pills were in this bag. Brian Hickerson gave police that bag. So one of the things they have probably done already is tested the drugs in that bag to see if there's fentanyl there as well. And so they are honing in a lot of different ways on this longtime drug dealer. Because if they have, certainly, look, we don't know exactly what the texts spell out. But what we do know is that they were talking about black market pills. We know that for sure. In detail. Right. And if you're the drug dealer, you're panicking now, right? This is taking us completely right back to the Matthew Perry situation. They got to the ketamine queen. They found her out there, other people that were involved. So if you're the drug dealer in this situation, you have to assume that at this point, law enforcement knows who this person is. They are probably following them in some way. They have messages between them. So the one thing they're waiting on. Because you need to close that loop. But if they can trace fentanyl to the drug dealer, they're going to go after this guy. We also found out that. By the way, we should say guy or girl. Because now that we know what the neighbors have been seeing. It's from what we understand from our sources, there may be three people going back and forth. Some of them could be this courier. That's right. But one person is somebody that dealt with Hayden for five years. But I will say, remember, in the Mac Miller's case, they got not just the dealer, the supplier. They got the couriers. They got the middlemen. So anyone who's involved is definitely going to be under the spot. And the final thing is we know that six days after Hayden died, authorities raided her condo, got a search warrant. And they were looking for drugs, both prescription and illicit, as well as drug paraphernalia. So they have been hot on that trail almost from the day after she died. Hi, this is Whitney from Atlantic City, New Jersey. The whole story is so heartbreaking. And regardless of what the investigation determines, this is just a big reminder for people that drugs are dangerous. And counterfeit pills are dangerous. And it's just really scary. And I just want to say what really bothers me is the people that are around her. There's people struggling. If you see them struggling, you want to protect them. And it's so sad that you have these enablers in their lives. And people that want to profit off of their vulnerability, and my heart just really goes out to her family and everyone who loved her. Congresswoman Nancy Mace definitely wants Lindsay Clancy to stand trial again. And the outcome. I'm not even sure she wants a trial. Yeah, actually, you're right. I think she would just like to skip over the trial and go right to sentencing. And the sentence she's calling for is, well, Paul Revere kind of talked about it. Her children are dead. She should be dead, too. You're saying she should be dead, too. So you think that she could get the death penalty. It should be public. It should be a public execution. What would that look like? In your ideal world, what would a, you're saying she deserves a public execution. Oh, absolutely. She killed her kids. She deserves nothing left. OK. Her kids are dead. So when you say public execution, spell that out for me. It could be by a firearm. It could be electric chair and all I care. Not an injection. You'd like to see that. You'd like to see someone get, you'd like to see Lindsay Clancy get the electric chair in front of a crowd of people. She should get the electric chair. She should get the death penalty. It should be public. It should be a warning to women. Everywhere you don't kill your kids. Wow. That is rough. Yeah. Whereas, you know, leading up to the decision, the judge announced the mistrial, the public conversation was more about, more understanding about the issues with postpartum. Well, some people don't. And some people did. And some people don't buy it. But I hadn't heard anybody say it that harshly. I want to say what they want the outcome to be. By the way, do you want to clean up the Paul Revere thing? It was the give me death part. That's not Paul Revere. Yeah, it is. Give me liberty or give me. No, it's Patrick Henry. I was close. You're forgetting your famous New Englanders. I was close. New Englanders. I want to make a point about something. Look, 11 jurors felt strongly, clearly, one way. That she should be, she should have been not guilty by reason of insanity. There was a holdout. And the more we're hearing about the holdout, not that this even matters, is he actually changed his view at one point. It sounded like he softened it, that he was for first degree and then softened it to something less. Right, after reviewing evidence. Reviewing her interview with the police. So he was willing to bend, but he felt a certain way. This is a really dangerous thing that's going on right now, that we are targeting jurors because of our personal feelings. And I'm not saying I agree with this guy, because frankly, from what I know, I don't. But I wasn't in the trial either. But the idea is that, yeah, every juror should be able to form their own view. And just because 11 people are on one side doesn't mean, well, I'll follow the crowd. That's not the point of a jury, to follow the crowd. Yet this guy has been targeted and vilified. And I think it's going to chill people from serving on juries. The whole idea of a jury is that each juror is supposed to be an individual who approaches and listens to and sees all of the evidence and reaches their own conclusion. Now, when you have disagreement in the jury room, obviously there's going to be debate. And you can change your mind. But if you don't, you don't. If you don't, you don't. By the way, he did. So the notion that he was. He didn't go as far as the other 11. But the idea isn't, oh, majority rules. No, it has to be unanimous. And that means everybody's got to form their own view. And because this guy didn't, it's like, does not make him a bad guy. And he's been treated as a bad guy. And I think that's so ominous for jury service, for fair trials. What, the idea is that mob rules? And that's what a jury is? But don't you think Nancy Mace's point of view is a little harsh, too, though? I think it's a lot harsh. Isn't there, like, no death penalty in Massachusetts? Like, would she not even get a death penalty? Well, she's not thinking. But that's not what she's saying. She's saying. I think she just means, in theory, that's what she would like to see happen. She's saying burn him at the stake. I'm sure a lot of people do, too. Hey, guys. I'm Lucas. I'm from the Adirondacks in upstate New York. And when it comes to this, with Nancy Mace saying this, honestly, she said it very harshly. But I actually, I do agree. I think that Lindsay Clancy, you know, just because something can be explained doesn't mean that it takes away from what happened. And I think this is becoming a more normal thing in our day and age now, too. I feel like people are seeing this and thinking that, oh, they can get away with something like that, or they can do it. I mean, there's been people that have done it before and been found not guilty of reason of insanity. And I feel like she's just giving- Andrea Yates, yeah. Yeah, Andrea Yates, Dina Schlosser, Deanna Laney, they've all killed their children and they were all found not guilty by reason of insanity. And people are, I feel like, are looking at this like this is the first time something like this has happened. I do think that the punishment should fit the crime. I think whereas most people have focused solely on Lindsay and Patrick, at the end of the day, there's three little kids that are now gone and don't get to have a future. They don't get to have playdates. They don't get to go to school. And I really do think that if people are gonna look at her and use it, and I hate to use this word, but use it as an inspiration to do stuff like this and think they can get away with it, then I think the law should use her as an example of what happens if people do think that they're gonna get away with it. Coming up. I think there is now more outrage over Ed Sheeran and Macklemore than there was just at Macklemore making his statement about free Palestine. Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib, she torched Ed Sheeran and Bob Kraft. You know, shame on them. Be right back. I think there is now more outrage over Ed Sheeran and Macklemore than there was just at Macklemore making his statement when he opened for Ed Sheeran on tour and he made a whole speech about free Palestine. As you know, he has now been- I think that's an accurate statement. Yeah, he has now been pulled from that tour and there is, yes, increasing outrage at Ed Sheeran, at the promoter, at Bob Kraft. And Bob Kraft, the reason is Bob Kraft, the owner of the Patriots, also owns that stadium and reportedly said- No, he admits it. He said, he talked to Ed Sheeran and said, if you have Macklemore on this tour, you're not playing at Gillette Stadium. Well, now we have someone else weighing in and that would be Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib. We got her on the Hill this morning and asked her about Macklemore being pulled from the tour. She torched Ed Sheeran and Bob Kraft. Ed Sheeran doesn't want to take his side. And so, I mean, some people say he should have stood up for his friend, Macklemore, and also stood up maybe for what's happening, but instead he is just going about his concert anyway. What would you say to that? It just shows who's courageous and who's not, who will stand up for values that are important. That's unfortunate because he said he doesn't want to take sides, but he did on Ukraine. The more folks like Ed Sheeran and everybody side with the billionaire class, with those that, again, benefit financially and benefit personally from the status quo, you know, shame on them. I think it turns around and comes right back on them. And a lot of people are not going to turn their backs. They're going to stop listening to their music. They're going to stop respecting them. I did immediately. I think people should use their right to boycott. I mean, I stopped going to places and I stopped listening to folks that I felt very much made an exception about Palestinian humanity. I think it's weird to talk about the billionaire class. It's like, this is not really about the billionaire class. But that's one of her favorite talking points. No, I know, but it's not except for the fact that when Robert Kraft put his thumb on the scale and said, not only am I going to tell you that you can't play at my stadium, Ed Sheeran, but I've called all my friends in the NFL and then it feels like the billionaires banding together. Hold on, it's a policy issue that doesn't necessarily, it's not necessarily only involving billionaires. It's not billionaires, you're right. It's owners of football teams and football stadiums. But there are people who are poor who feel the way Robert Kraft does. There are people who are poor and rich who feel the way Tilly does. But those poor people didn't get Macklemore kicked off the court. Right, she's pointed out that the repository of power is Robert Kraft, so the world who can cancel stadiums. Because she's saying there is a way to address this with rich people and that's boycotting. So there are ways that non-billionaires, non-rich people, she says, can succeed. So it's really about policy and not money. Well, it's undeniably true that the underclasses can collectively act in a certain way to hit the billionaire class, but the whims of a billionaire can change the fortunes of Macklemore performing at Gillette Stadium. That's what she's saying. I disagree with her, but. When I was in college, the grape boycott, actually, it did something. Yeah, the Cesar Chavez, there is a history of grape boycotts, but Bob Kraft can just say, you're not performing, Macklemore, because I say you're not performing, I own the whole stadium, you don't need a boycott. Ed Sheeran is doing his best Shaggy impression, saying, it wasn't me, I'm not the one who kicked my friend Macklemore off the tour. He said, I'm appalled by the conflict between Israel and Palestine, the suffering and pain caused on both sides is a human tragedy. Macklemore coming off tour was the promoter's decision, it was not mine. Just because I choose not to speak publicly doesn't mean I don't care. Those who come to my shows do not expect a political forum. She's not letting him off the hook. That may be true, though, right? That may be true, but she's not letting him off the hook. She thinks he should have stood up for Macklemore and maybe canceled his show himself and not perform. I think that's asking too much, but she's saying shame on both of them very clearly, right? Even though he's saying, it wasn't my political stance, this was a promoter who kicked you off. Yeah, and then you gotta decide, you know, what do you believe most? I mean, should Ed Sheeran tour no matter what, especially if it wasn't his decision, or should he pull the plug on the tour to show solidarity? To say that Ed Sheeran should- That's not him. Pull the plug on the tour. That's not him. I agree, that's asking an awful lot of a performer. That affects not- Don't wanna listen to Ed Sheeran anymore, people are just like- And I get that people can boycott that way, and that's what they can do, they can boycott, but to say he should pull the plug on his tour affects not only the thousands of fans who bought tickets, but all the people who worked on that tour, all the people who work in those stadiums are suddenly out. People have pointed out his maybe hypocrisy with standing behind Ukraine, so he does make political stances when- There was a clip going around where he talks about supporting- No, I mean, they're different issues, I think, but she does make, she makes a point. Massachusetts. My thoughts with Ed Sheeran is that he's really no better than Robert Kraft. I think they're all in the same. The artist now is so separate from the art. These brands are so more manufactured than I think we all realized and come to know. I think that's what Taylor Swift has been telling us all these years. That's why she's switching her style so easily. She's showing you how easy it is to just put on this mask, and I think it's slipping, and I think it's business ethics. It's everything encompassing, and everyone has a choice. Ed Sheeran has a choice. He's an adult. He can play anywhere. He doesn't have to play in stadiums. He's choosing to, and he's choosing to participate in the system. Yeah, but there are a lot of people who participate in the system who still have views, and to say everybody's got to boycott everything, good luck, good luck functioning. Everybody doesn't have to boycott. You can boycott the things that you care the most about. I agree, and he has not spoken out on this, so apparently that's not the level where he boycotts. Wow. So Tiger Woods, who was told by the judge, you cannot drive, he was driving yesterday. He is completely flouting the justice system. Look at this. Look at him drive. That's pretty good, pretty good. I think even the judge isn't gonna complain about that. That was a nice shot. Yes, Tiger is not behind the wheel. He is at a driving range getting ready for what looks like, he hasn't made it official yet, right, Mike? No, not yet. But it looks like he's at least getting ready. Yeah, and this is the first- For a possible comeback. Totally, Charles. This is the first time we have seen him with a golf club in his hand since that crash in March, where he was rolled over. Can I tell you something that is just unbelievable how many times it's gonna come back? It's like the guy has rolled over two cars. He's gotten two DUI arrests. He has had major health problems with his back in that first crash. He's been to rehab and he keeps getting back on the golf course and he's in the game. And not just that, Harvey, he is still so beloved. He is the most famous golfer out there, period. Does not matter what he's done. They don't care. It's pretty incredible. It really is. He's like Teflon. Honestly? He is. Yeah, wow. Yeah, I knew exactly where that was going. Coming up, there is a big development in the Nick Reiner murder case. Nick Reiner, who is charged with murdering his parents, Rob and Michelle Reiner. The DA has now made a decision on a key issue, the death penalty. Be right back. TMZ's got every freaky thing. Big celebs, big stories, big events. Donald Rawlings took TMZBC on a city tour. You know what the irony of this is? A black man takes a white person to the White House. It's TMZ. Welcome back to TMZ Live. There is a big development in the Nick Reiner murder case. Nick Reiner, who is charged with murdering his parents, Rob and Michelle Reiner. The DA has now made a decision on a key issue, the death penalty. Right, whether or not to actually pursue the death penalty once Nick Reiner's trial starts. The DA, L.A. County DA, Nathan Hockman, held a news conference this morning and announced something that I think some people would be surprised by. We have spoken to the victim's family. We have spoken to prosecutors, law enforcement. I've worked with the most senior people in the district attorney's office. After a careful and thorough review of all these factors, the district attorney's office will not be seeking the death penalty in this case. That means that the maximum sentence that Mr. Reiner will be looking at is life without the possibility of parole. So we broke this story this morning and we know what the factors were. He mentioned the family. We know that Rob and Michelle Reiner were vehemently opposed to the death penalty. That matters. But maybe even more front and center are Jake and Romy, Nick's siblings. They were in a position where if Nick is convicted, there'll be a sentencing hearing and they have to get in the stand. They do not want to, say, execute our brother. Right, while obviously they are, we know they are not in alignment with the defense of Nick Reiner. It's their brother. And you get the whole point. And I know that the DA sort of just said, talked to the victim's family members. He said that quickly at the top. I gotta figure that that was the thing that weighed very heavily in this decision. Jake and Romy were. Yes, absolutely were. They absolutely were. Now, what you mentioned I think is really important. They are not supporting Nick. And everything I know points to them not buying this notion that he was out of his head, that he was not guilty by reason of insanity. And they are not funding his defense, which is one of the reasons right now he has a public defender, although. Looks like that he's gonna end up retaining Alan Jackson again. Right. Who was originally his attorney. And we know that Nick was, and I don't know where he is on this, but fighting to get that trust money that he was supposed to get when he turned 30, which would certainly help him in his defense. I think $1.6 million in that trust. And I think around 700,000 became due when he was 30. My guess, based on the law, is that he's gonna get that 30 because it bested before he killed his parents. The weird thing is that if Alan Jackson does take this case and does mount a not guilty by reason of insanity defense, that is a multi-million dollar defense because of experts and all the other things. And if Nick only has $700,000. And he's not gonna get access to the rest. Certainly not. Absolutely not. And yeah. No, no, no. Even if he's not convicted. The chat feels like if you keep letting killers go or less punishment, people will start doing more murder and more crimes like this. Well, look. We heard that earlier today. Someone said that after when we were talking about Nancy. Sorry, about Lindsay Clinton. And look, there is such a thing as not guilty by reason of insanity. And when it's appropriate, it can and should be used. And it's true that there might be copycats who try and take advantage of it, but you can't then deny somebody a defense because of worrying that somebody else is gonna do something wrong. But I don't know how Alan Jackson is gonna pull this off with $700,000. That's, yeah. That is, that would be a discount for the kind of defense that he typically puts on. Enormous. Aneem Awe, Boston, Massachusetts. And I think the DA actually got it correct with not pursuing the death penalty. In reality, the death penalty really doesn't resolve anything. And we know this gentleman had an extensive mental health history, comorbidities, including schizophrenia, and some substance use. And I think it's very evident that across this country that mental health is a pretty big issue and that we need to be paying more attention. So perhaps those funds can be directed towards that. And granted, this is a heinous crime. It's terrible. But I think it speaks to a larger theme throughout the country regarding mental health and how serious we need to take this. And also how it doesn't discriminate across socioeconomic status, because we've seen two really big cases with pretty well-off white families where this is a reoccurring theme. Coming up. We used to just be worried about robots and what their abilities are gonna be. And now we're talking about AI actually wiping out humanity. I think there's like a 50% chance something will go wrong, affecting like millions of people's lives. Be right back. Welcome back to TMZ Live. We have the fears for AI, the fears about AI and the future of humanity. It's weird how this has evolved. We used to just be worried about robots and what their abilities are gonna be. And now we're talking about AI actually wiping out humanity. And the people who are sounding the alarm about this are people who are working on it. Even though you have some politicians, like the president saying, we should just let this go. We need to be competitive with everyone else in the world, particularly China. The more he says that, the more people you are hearing within the industry saying, this is a serious problem. I'm suspicious. Suspicious about? I am suspicious because we're gonna bring somebody on in a minute. And there are many other people who privately within these companies have been sounding this alarm for years. And it's almost like the heads of the companies found religion after Jacob Coxon spoke last week. This has been going on a lot longer than a week. Yeah, as you said, years people have been talking about it and people have been leaving certain companies because they felt that there were poor decisions being made about AI. Our next guest, Rashoob Jain, used to work at Google as an AI researcher. He has now left and started his own company. He is joining us now. Rashoob, welcome to TMZ Live. Thank you. Yeah, thank you for having me. We're so honored to have you. And I know you're in London and you jumped on with us, which we so appreciate. Would you explain, because I know this is something that has been on your mind, why you left Google and what your concerns were about this? Yeah, I left Google. I was able to do a lot of the same kind of safety research at Google. I just wanted to do it now at a much bigger scale that I'm able to do now with our new work. There's a lot of talent and interest outside of the labs now to work on safety. And I wanted to be one of the people directing that in the right direction, yeah. Rashoob, was your feeling that they weren't focusing on the right things? Obviously, there are guidelines at all these companies. There are executives who are in charge of alignment, I believe is what they call it. But is it that they were focusing on the wrong things or didn't see the danger growing as big as perhaps you did? I think it's, there's not like one company that's making this decision. I think it's a bunch of individual people at the company deciding what's important. And I think a lot of people at all the different AI companies are not yet valuing alignment research as much as it's needed. And it was difficult sometimes to convince some individual researchers to sort of work on the kinds of alignment problems I was excited about. And for the specific kind of alignment and safety technique I was interested in, it was difficult to recruit folks. And that's why I left to sort of be able to work on this in a 10 plus person team, which is easier to do now outside of the labs for certain kinds of research. Will you call me out on my cynicism or am I right here that people who run these companies have known about this. They've known about it for years. We found 2023 articles on people who are expressing the fear of AI going out of control. And all of a sudden we're watching all these heads from Dario to Elon Musk to Sam Altman. Within the last five or six days saying, oh, this guy Jacob Cox and he's got it right. And yeah, we're concerned too and we want regulations. It feels to me like this is almost a PR stunt that if they knew this, why were they radio silent for years? None of them were radio silent for years. At the same time, I think the decisions made in an organization can only be attributed to the CEOs. I think a lot of it is the individual researchers and the priorities that they give to different projects. And the matter of the fact is a lot of people want to sort of just push AI and sort of make the next breakthrough instead of considering what are the implications of the risk. And I think that's really where the focus should be less on the CEOs that are making these decisions and convincing a lot of the AI researchers what is important problems to work on. See, the part that the reason for Harvey's cynicism, like we've heard numbers this week and last week where people are saying there's a 10% chance. This article we found this morning, they were saying up to 20% chance and that was three years ago. So if the numbers were that big and in fact, that same person said there's a 50-50 chance of it being a takeover without wiping out humanity. If the numbers were that big, if the probabilities were that large that there was gonna be some cataclysmic problem with AI, why, that's why Harvey used the term radio silent because I know what you're saying that there were people, obviously we read this article, there were people saying it, but it never became this issue. It was never people marching to Capitol Hill saying we need to be regulated. Why now? People, I think have been talking about it for a while. I think the same people that are thinking that it's 10% chance of killing everyone still also think there's like huge chance it saves a lot of people and fixes a lot of things. I think also there was a lot of hope to, and there still is a lot of hope to have some sort of international coordination. And it's sort of like the argument of if someone else does it, we might be able to do it better. And if we don't do it, someone else will do it. So I think these are some of the reasons. I think also the not really believing that it's gonna be 10%, I think the sort of, not everyone is saying that. What do you think? I don't have a percentage. I think there's a chance. I think what's more important is like there's a big chance like many things will go wrong. And there's a lot of things that we can do to prevent a lot of that. Maybe killing everyone is like a specific focus, but there's like, I think there's like a 50% chance something will go wrong, affecting like millions of people's lives. And there's a lot we can do still to fix that. I hope you're right. All right. Well, Rashid, so you left Google and what is your company focusing on now? We started a nonprofit, a research nonprofit trying to research alignment in a similar way that we did at Google DeepMind, but now with a bigger amount of resources that we have and it's trying to basically, how do we build better judges that are used in the AI training and development process by incorporating humans back in the loop and maintaining human oversight. And so, yeah, we're recruiting for technical staff. Anyone here is watching. Anyone watching, Sempora Research is the name of the company. Rashid, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me on. Really appreciate it. Coming up. Well, Taylor Swift was not at the Emmy Awards and yet she appeared in a skit with her good friend, Mariska Hargitay, who is the host. The Swifties, they think that the things that were on the board were not just there for a skit. Oh God. That there are something true. Be right back. Well, Taylor Swift was not up for an Emmy Award and she was not at the Emmy Awards and yet she is the person that a lot of fans are talking about after last night's Emmy Awards. That is because she appeared in a skit with her good friend, Mariska Hargitay, who is the host. They did a skit. It's prerecorded, by the way, because Taylor, if you happen to flip over to ABC, you would have seen Taylor at the Chiefs game, not at the Emmy Awards, which was airing on NBC. But she still managed to get into it because of this prerecorded skit where Mariska Hargitay is doing a law and order scene. They're in the police station. They're trying to figure out how to solve the big crime. The crime that they're talking about is Taylor Swift coming to the Emmy Awards. Will she be there? They're trying to solve it and then a rookie officer comes in who looks a lot like Taylor. Will Taylor Swift be at the Emmys? Now, in order to crack a Swifty case, you gotta think like a Swifty because the Swifties think that everything is a clue to what she'll do next. Abbott Elementary nominated for seven Emmys. Season six premieres this year. Seven and six, add them up, people. Taylor's lucky number, 13. FBI. SNL, live from New York. Welcome to New York. It's been waiting for you. I think we got a case here. Hey, guys. This isn't adding up. And who asked you, rookie? Our perp has a clear MO. A lot of this doesn't fit the pattern and I don't think everything is a clue. It is to the Swifties. I think what we're gonna be looking for is hiding in plain sight. Well, that case is solved. Taylor Swift will not be at the Emmys. She's not there, I'm not watching. Maybe she's gonna do one of those cool pre-taped sketch things to support the host. Do you think she'll sing? No. So, yes, that really went down and it was kind of funny. It is kind of funny. It was well-received by the audience at the awards. But the Swifties did not take it as simple entertainment. In fact. Oh, they think she's becoming a police officer now? No, they think that there were a bunch of clues on that board that the things that were on the board were not just there for a skit. Oh, God. Tell me this isn't true. You guys can huff and puff, but after seeing this, I know she is releasing two albums. Okay, here are all the clues. Let's have some fun. Just humor us for a second. We are already. Define fun. Okay. Humor will be if we laugh. Now, if you go back and you look at the clock, the clock is set at 10.13. Okay, so we know now something is gonna happen on October 13th. All right, there's some papers that are up on the board. It says Tuesday, 8 a.m. Okay, are you following? So on October 13th, Tuesday, 8 a.m. Is October 13th a Tuesday? A Tuesday, yes, it is. Yes, it is. Also, it says, is it TV? On like a little like post-it note. They think TV stands for Taylor's version. So is it Taylor's version? So a Taylor's version album dropping on Tuesday, October 13th. Oh my God. And why is it two? It's two because she was at two places at once yesterday. Oh my God, can I tell you something else? I'm looking at our clock. It is now 3.37. You know what that means? Oh no, what? That's how much time we're out of time. Hi, I'm Amy from Toronto. And I think my hot take is, yeah, you could go crazy dissecting all the Easter egg clues for the Swifties, but I think Taylor should pop up on a TV show. Like she was seen at the Chiefs game, hanging out with Tom Cruise. Her acting is like 20 out of 10. So I'm wondering. 20 out of 10? Her acting is 20 out of 10? 20 out of 10? Based on what? 100%. So she's like Meryl Streep to you? Yeah, she's multi-talented. There's nothing she can't do, right? Apparently. So you can find love in Washington, DC. It's like a rom-com. Like it's cute. How so? We were friends. Like I was telling him everything. He was telling me everything. Then one day I'm like, is something going on between us? Be right back. So you can find love in Washington, DC. Hayley Stevens, who is the outgoing Congresswoman from Michigan, she talked to Jacob about how she met the love of her life. And this is like a movie. So I wanted to say congrats. Thank you. On your engagement. Thank you. So let's hear about it. So it seems like you found love. Yeah. What's the wedding plan? It's like a rom-com. Like it's cute. How so? We were friends. Like I was telling him everything. He was telling me everything. Then one day I'm like, is something going on between us? The chemistry. I know, I love that. That's the next thing. The love lives of members of Congress. You can date in this job. What about a honeymoon? Yeah. Michigan's got some great destinations. No way. There's no way you honeymoon in your home state. Why would I not? Have you ever been up north? Those lakes are the top rated, Torch Lake. This means she's running for something later that she says she's honeymooning in her home state. She's running for a town council on the upper peninsula. I don't know, she almost won the primary. Yeah, she said, what, 8,000 votes? Yeah. Yeah, it's not often you see people that happy on the Hill. She's the most expressive member of Congress. I mean, here's my question. Is she really happy just because of her engagement or is she really happy because she's leaving Washington? Yeah, a little bit of both. B. What else you guys wanna talk about? Hey, I'm Devin from Kentucky and I was gonna talk about the Malcolm Moore story. Yeah, okay. Well, I just wanted to point out how hypocritical I believe it is that at least two out of the seven venues or arenas that have canceled Malcolm Moore have still got Kanye West on their roster. Somebody who said far worse things than Malcolm Moore ever said during that speech. Somebody who's far more of a controversial person in general than Malcolm Moore. I agree with you on that, but the weird thing is- One of them being Dallas, by the way. Well, but Robert Kraft is Jewish, right? Yes, and yet- But he called around to his buddies and they said, all right, we're with you. No, no, no, but I'm talking about Kanye. Right. Kanye is not playing at Gillette Stadium. But he hasn't really voiced anything. Didn't call his buddies on that, apparently. Except that he's not playing at Robert Kraft Stadium. No, I understand. I guess if he were trying to, Robert Kraft might've- We don't- Here's the thing, he would never even attempt to play at Robert Kraft Stadium. That may be true. One more. Yeah, I'm Serengeti from New York City and I wanted to comment on the Nancy Mays, Lindsay Clancy story. Okay. Yeah, so I think it's absolutely preposterous that a sitting member of Congress is asking for the death penalty, essentially, of someone who's in a trial, a trial that hasn't even been settled yet. Instead, she should be using her platform to advance policies that help maternal healthcare. Welcome to Washington. Coming up. Well, if you're impressed with Tom Cruise's appearance on Monday Night Football, you're really gonna be impressed with the GQ cover. I never thought I would see Tom Cruise do that. Take his shirt off? Well, I mean, yeah. Or go to a football game. Well, he's not thirsty normally. Be right back. Well, if you're impressed with Tom Cruise's appearance on Monday Night Football, he was sitting in the box next with Taylor Swift in the, I guess it's probably the, is it the Kelsey Swift box now? I guess so. Kelsey box, I don't know. How does she know him? I don't know. Tom Cruise just seems to pop up everywhere. But if you're impressed with that, you're really gonna be impressed with the GQ cover where a 64-year-old Tom doesn't want to act like the typical 64-year-old. Good for him. Going a little shirtless. I don't know what the cowboy thing is all about. Maybe the, oh, wait, is he playing a cowboy in a movie? Yeah. Is he? I think so. I think you're right. Yeah. I never thought I would see Tom Cruise do that. Take his shirt off? Well, I mean, yeah. Or go to a football game. Well, he's not thirsty normally. Oh, I don't know if that's fair to say he's not thirsty. You know what? Tom Cruise. Can I just tell you? I just computed what I said in my head. Cruise has been plenty thirsty over the years. And the robot is saying you're wrong. Okay, we'll see you tomorrow.