Special Forces Insider Breaks Silence On What Pastors Were Really Told

A former U.S. Army Special Forces soldier has gone public with a warning, and it's not about metal or craft. He says while the whole country argues over hidden documents, something else has been building in plain sight, a belief system taking shape around contact, already reaching millions of people. And in the same window, one of the most well-known insiders in this field is telling the president Hey Ufologers, I'm Christina Gomez and this is your UFO News Update. The first story runs through the wave of private meetings with pastors that made national headlines earlier this year. Church leaders said they were pulled into closed rooms and told to prepare their congregations for what might soon be released. But we need to understand some context just in case you don't remember that story. Since this spring, a group of well-known charismatic and Pentecostal pastors have each claimed separately that they were briefed by men described as connected to the U.S. government. Perry Stone, Joseph X, Bishop Alan DeDino, Tony Merkel all described closed-door meetings, phones off, no recordings, some even in rented houses in the Tennessee mountains. The instructions were always the same, get your people ready for what is coming, because it may shake their faith. But not every account held up. Alabama pastor Larry Ragland claimed Eric Burleson told pastors the government was about to announce that aliens seeded humanity and that God, Jesus and the Bible were their inventions. Burleson denied it in an ex-post and within hours Ragland recorded a public apology and took the words back as his own. One of these men actually tied to these meetings comes at it from a very different angle. He has a background in Fifth Special Forces Group with later work that leaned heavily into intelligence. And he identified himself as Paul Bach in an interview on Revival Nation. He argues the public has been so focused on the phenomenon itself, the sightings, the craft, the hardware, that almost nobody noticed the things coming and forming around it. A set of beliefs built on the experience of contact, a working set of practices with its own figures, its own message and a real audience. Now to make that case, he points to religious studies scholar Diana Pasulka, who has spent years studying the culture around this subject. She has described watching a genuine belief system take shape in real time. One with its own sacred sites, its own practices and its own people who claim they have chosen to carry a message. So the story here isn't, are craft real? The story, according to Paul, is that a growing number of people are being handed a framework for what the craft mean and a set of steps to reach out to them, such as CE5. Paul argues that several of the most public names in this space are no longer just describing their own encounters. They are teaching methods, walking audiences through steps to invite contact. And here you can probably imagine who he is referring to. If not, he's addressing Stephen Greer and Chris Bledsoe, just to name two out of several. One such presentation built around a widely shared protocol, CE5, has drawn hundreds of thousands of views on a single platform before you count podcasts and even re-uploads. But Paul has a huge concern. When large numbers of people are taught to open a door and ask something unseen to answer, no one controls what comes through it. Paul says, whatever these experiences are, they are being packaged, promoted and spread as something you can try tonight. Now do with that what you will. And a few months ago, we went into great detail about that meeting, the secret meeting with pastors. Well, according to Paul, there wasn't just one secret meeting. There were actually several run by different people. And the accounts got blended together in the retelling until nobody could keep the story straight. And the first story that came out publicly was by Pastor Perry Stone. Even people involved mentioned that this is all just like a weird mashup of multiple meetings. The things that Stone said was said in those meetings is not what we said. And there's something weird going on and that's part of the confusion. You've had multiple meetings. Not only that you guys have done. You guys did multiple meetings, two that I know of. But then there are other people doing meetings and everybody's just kind of throwing it all into one meeting. Yeah. That's no. We have met with pastors for years from all different, from the most fundamentalist cessationist pastor to Catholic to the most hyper charismatic. And all it was was guys, a religion is formed around this. So you're doing, you're doing this investigation. You're doing this investigation and you're, um, you, you had access to appropriate information helping the government get their hands around this subject matter, the UFO UAP subject matter. You worked with special operators on the ground, embeds key inside key organizations, direct interviews with sources, both inside and outside the government, um, reviewed, uh, government information about UAP, um, material assessed how the intelligence was shared, protected, summarized across agencies, where the gaps were, where the security lapses were. And you set face to face with the UAP movements, most influential voices. And that matters because a clean and dramatic version of an event almost travels faster than the messy true ones that don't always make full sense. A separate viral clip from the prophecy teacher, Perry stone described a meeting he thought was the same gathering, but it wasn't. It was a different group entirely. So some of what was spreading online, the spring was real events stitched into one story that never actually happened as a single event. And then even the political side reacted. Congressman Eric Burleson, who sits on the house oversight committee and has pushed hard for UAP transparency weighed in on the pasture briefing. And he encouraged Christians to hold to what the Bible actually says rather than a speculation layered on top of it. If the government did believe a coming release could shake people's faith, would quietly briefing trusted community leaders first be reasonable preparation or would it be a way to manage how millions of people are allowed to react? Well, you tell me whatever you make of the religious framing, the mechanism Paul is describing is not a matter of belief. People are being taught procedures. Those procedures are spreading and the reported results, the encounters, the figures, the message are decently consistent from person to person across very different backgrounds. When a devote believer, an atheist and a casual seeker all run similar protocols and come back describing similar experiences, similar entities, similar messages. Are you looking at something that behaves like a pattern instead of a coincidence? He argues that pattern isn't friendly, but others disagree. Many people believe that these beings are benevolent, even guiding people to spread the message of their space brothers and sisters. Can both be right? Here is the question. Is CE5 dangerous or a gift from above? People are being invited to find out for themselves one bedroom at a time. Is this what Bigelow was referring to in episode three of the Bigelow podcast? Are these types of communications ruin public UFO disclosure for everyone? Or is that only for one the military attempt contact? While one insider warns about what humans are being taught to believe, another insider is fighting to force out the physical proof. Dr. Eric Davis made a direct appeal to the president and his message that the only thing keeping him from testifying publicly was a signature. Mr. President, with your signature, you could waive the SF312 NDA to protect UAP whistleblowers like myself. I respectfully request that you take swift and decisive action as the nature of UAP should not be kept deeply classified. The SF312 is the standard non-disclosure agreement signed by people with security clearances. Breaking it can cost someone their clearance, their career, and it can carry civil or criminal penalties. His position is that he will tell everything that he knows under oath, but only if the president formally clears him first. Without that protection, he will stay quiet. Now the question is, what does he say that he's holding? Well, he describes having personally seen classified records, photographs, and reports tied to recovered craft, and he doesn't describe one kind of being. He describes several. There's a minimum of four that we know of, and I've seen the evidence and I've seen the records. They variously are described as the greys, like what everybody saw in Close Encounters of the Third Kind at the end of that movie in the final scene. And then there's the Nordics, which are very tall-statured, Caucasian-looking individuals. And then there's the beings that resemble or look like insects, like a praying mantis type insect, but they're not an insect. Or they could be, but we don't know. And then there's the reptilians, for the same case, in that their morphology, body structure looks like a reptilian, and they may not be reptilian. He also says the bodies are recovered dead and that he references an account from another well-known figure of one that may have been taken alive, though we cannot personally confirm it because, again, he's only ever seen documents, but not the hard evidence that we know of. He has produced no documents because, by his own account, he cannot without a broader waiver. Trump has not signed anything that lets whistleblowers speak publicly. The administration directed agencies to waive old NDAs so witnesses can come forward to government channels, meaning Arrow or the Pursuit Office. Officials said it was not a declassification order, so witnesses can now walk in and tell Arrow or Pursuit what they know, which has already been in effect since 2023. Whistleblowers still cannot legally go on TV or a podcast and reveal what they signed, an NDA, to protect. But let's just say, if a waiver was signed tomorrow and everything Eric Davis describes turns out to be real, four kinds of beings, recovered craft, bodies moved and hidden, do you actually want all of that released at once? Or is there a part of you that understands why some of it might stay locked away, maybe considering national security concerns or mass panic? Well, you can leave your thoughts in the comments below. I'm Christina Gomez. That is it for today. I will see you again tomorrow at 12 p.m. PST for another UFO news update. Be safe and remember, keep your eyes on the skies. If you enjoyed today's show, hit that like button. And if you're not subscribed, what are you waiting for? Hit the notification bell as I do daily UFO news and updates, fresh UAP stories, government disclosures and breaking developments land here every single day.