Tamra Judge spills on Vicki's feud with newbie Carmella & friendship with Shannon on VRT's Tea Time

She says that I call her a drunk? That's after she got her ass beat. Heather had been talking behind my back. We all talk s*** behind each other's back! Aw, f***! Let's talk about that. Welcome back to Tea Time. I am so delighted that the guest of the tea party this week is none other than Tamara Judge. You are someone who knows how to spill some tea. Oh, are we spilling tea? I think so. Can I tell you how the game works? Sure. Okay. So, these pastries right here, they are very fake. But the questions here, they are fake so you can't eat them. I'm like, why is that? That's not a cannoli, what is that thing? It's a macaroon. Why is it so shiny? Well, because it's plastic, Tamara. That looks really good. They do look good. But what happens is you're going to pick one of these fake pastries and it corresponds to a real question that I have for you here on these cards. I love this. You can either answer the question if you want, but if it's a little bit too spicy and you don't feel like answering, you just take a sip of your tea. But please pick one right now so we can get the game started. Well, I kind of wanted to eat this one, so... Okay, that's a good one. That is so good. Mmm, look at that. Okay, I'll take that from you. Okay, so this is fun. Out of 10, how would you rate Newbie Carmella's first season as a housewife? Oh, okay, this is an easy one. I haven't really seen the whole season, obviously, but I think I would say maybe like an eight because she's so sweet and kind that I kind of feel like she needs to stick up for herself a little bit more. Okay, it seems like she does, from what we've seen in the trailer at least, stand up to Vicky, the OG of the OC. That's after she got her ass beat. Oh, after she got her ass beat. Who beats her ass? Vicky. Oh, s***. Okay. Yeah. So do you think that the way she came for Vicky was substantiated by what Vicky had done to her? Yes. Okay, all right. So, I mean, I think she's great. I feel like, you know, she's just only going to get better. Got you. Only get better. And I watched the first three episodes and her home scenes are amazing. I love. So maybe a nine. Okay, that's high praise coming from Tamara Judge. I'm obsessed. Okay. She has it in her. That's what I'm saying. I love that. I love that for her. And I love that for the viewers of the Real Housewives of Orange County. I'm tired of having you guys come in and leave. Yeah, I know that sucks. So hopefully she can stick around, but let us pray. Hopefully I can stick around too. Right, no, you're going to be around forever. You're on my Mount Rushmore of Housewives, by the way. Oh, thank you. I can't imagine the franchise without you. All right, let's let's choose another pastry. Okay, let's do this one. What was going through your mind when Jen Pedranti told you Heather Dubrow was talking a little bit of smack behind your back? Uh-huh, yeah. And a lot. A lot. I sat down with Heather and when she talked about you, she just very much said she puts you in a box and she can compartmentalize her friends. So I was getting ready to leave and I got, someone wants to talk to you. I said, oh God, what do I do now? So I went over there and Jen proceeded to tell me that Heather had been talking behind my back. And then after the reunion, there was a lot to be said. And there's a few things that was going on in my mind. OK, one was, me and Jen are not that close. So why is she giving me this information? I'm no dummy. And the second one was, we all talk behind each other's back. Right. Like, how bad was this talking? Right. So I didn't know what to think. That's why for like the first time ever in my life, I'm like, let me think about this and I will get back to you. That was very different for you. You really wanted to take that moment to reflect because I do think also just as a viewer of the show and knowing what I think I know about your relationship with Heather, it's been up, it's been down, but you really care about it. Yeah, yeah, I know. I love her. She's one of my dear friends. And, you know, you see in this week's episode, I'm like, why do you talk about me like I'm a serial killer? I'm not a serial killer, OK? No, I think that is kind of crazy, though. Like, Tamra Judd is not a serial killer, P.S.A. Do you do you trust Jen? I mean, what do you think her intentions were, you know, behind sharing that information with you? Was it methodical? Was I mean, what I did not know at that moment right there. I million things I'm thinking, why is she doing this? Is she baiting me? Is she lying? Is she being kind? Does she want to be my friend now? Like, I was so confused. And later on, you'll see, like, she says, well, I said everybody. I go, no, you mostly said Heather. It wasn't like, then she tried to backtrack. I think it's in this week's episode. And she's like, well, I said everybody. I'm like, no, it was mostly you were saying Heather. It was definitely about Heather. Yeah, so something went down. And to this day, I do not know what went down. After the reunion, they went to dinner and I was not invited. Oh, gotcha, man. Where was Andy on the cameras for that dinner? He was consoling me in my trailer. Oh, that's right. Yes, that was a rough reunion for you. Do you think this reunion for this season will be a little bit easier for you? Oh, who knows what they'll pull out of their ass. Oh God, okay. Who knows? No, I think at this point, the season, I think it's gonna be one of my easier reunions. Oh, I love that for you. It depends on what I do now, between now and the reunion. True, true. Okay, let's pick another treat. Okay, let's do this little shiny. Oh, okay. This one's interesting. Okay, so on the show, you and Shannon are reengaged in a feud, this time over your fight that you had at the Quiet Woman while filming the next season of Girls Trip. Would you say this is the worst fight you and Shannon have ever had? No. Okay, so what are the lingering misconceptions about this scuffle at the Quiet Woman? Was it that bad? I didn't think it was that bad. She says that I call her a drunk. I don't remember calling her a drunk. I think I might've went like that. I think she called me a drunk. Oh. Yes. Okay, maybe we'll see on Girls Trip. And I think I also said, like she's saying, you said I didn't have a man or anything. I'm like, I'm pretty sure I said I have a good life. I have a husband, I have kids in college. I guess she took it as she doesn't have any of that. I see, okay, so she misunderstood. And the thing is, it's like, Heather's going after me about this, but Heather wasn't there when this went down. Heather was on the opposite side. So I'm assuming Shannon went over there and told them I was horrible to her. Oh, I see. And do you think that the other housewives in attendance were flabbergasted by your display of behavior? Okay, let's talk about that. So we have Portia. Okay. No, I don't think Portia. We have Teresa. No, I don't think Teresa's like, oh my God, that's the worst I've ever seen. I mean, come on. Yeah. Come on. I can't imagine that they're- Lisa Barlow. Right, they're not shocked. I mean, I think Kyle made comments like, you guys are so loud. Orange County people are loud. They scream and yell. And we did in this episode. We were screaming and yelling. We were playing bunko, screaming, so. I love it. Okay, let's pick another tree. Okay. All right, I love a good raspberry. Ooh, me too. Wait, this is also Girl Strip related. So Bikki Gumbelson recently stopped by virtual reality and she told us how she really feels about the Real Housewives of Rhode Island. She says that they actually scare her. She had a moment with Rosie and Kelsey while filming at Bluestone Manor for Girl Strip. Okay. She was like, they're aggressive. They need to shut up. Like, they just got here. Oh, that's funny because they're one of my favorite shows. Okay, wise. Favorite. I'm like, put me in boss. I would thrive in that environment. Okay, because that was my question. How do you feel about the Real Housewives of Rhode Island? So clearly- I want to be a slam pig. It's a slam pig summer, baby. No, I love Real Housewives of Rhode Island. And I- One of my favorites. Who is your favorite? Oh, wow. Well, it's Joellen. I mean, her performance at the reunion was crazy in the best ways. Joellen. Who the **** are you? You're a psychopath. I know, thank you. Oh, here we go. Like, she really delivered. I love her. You guys feel like, in a way, like kindred spirits. Like, I feel like you would offer- Oh, we've talked about it. Like, oh, you've chatted with her about that? What's that saying? I walk so she can run? Yes. Yes, I feel like, you know, she had the FBI hat on and outfit on. I don't know if that was like an AI picture or whatever. And I'm like, because I was going to tell her, I go, I have an FBI hat that I wore one season. Would you like it? Yeah, oh my God. Because she just gets, she was a little much at the reunion, but I appreciate the hustle. How do we feel about Rula? I like Rula. I like her, but I'm just confused with the husband stuff. Like, I'm all for trying to make things work, but burying your head is what it kind of looks like. And I just, I worry for her in that relationship. And then lastly, how do we feel about Liz leaving after just one season? I don't like it at all. Yeah, what the hell? Don't like it at all. I think that she brought a lot. I had talked to her off season and she was really struggling with just the hate on social media. And that's the thing, like these fan accounts. I think that Lindsey said it best lately, you're a cyber bully. Right. And I really, I keep saying, I want to change the laws for social media because there basically are no laws. Get this, I got death threats and called the person out. Instagram put a hold on my account. Because you responded to someone threatening your life? Yes. That's wild. Yeah, so I'm like, what is going on Instagram? Like there needs to be better rules. People need to chill. Like it's TV, it's entertainment. You don't have to go for their children and their businesses and write bad Yelp reviews and send death threats. I know. Then it makes you wonder like, what is, those are the people that need to be on reality TV. Right. Or get a psyche valve. Yeah. One of the two. All right, let's choose another treat. Oh. Sorry. Like what game are we playing? Okay, I love a good donut. Oh, me too. Okay, so back to Vicky. She told us that Shannon needs a man with a good balance sheet. Do you agree with her? What kind of man do you see Shannon with? Balance sheet? Like financial? Like he needs to have money, is what she was saying. Because Shannon doesn't have a job? I think that's what she was insinuating. I think she was being a little shady. Oh, she was being shady? Yeah. Well, I mean, she has a job on the show, but if the show ends, that's gonna be scary. For Shannon. I would like to see Shannon get a wealthy man that can take care of her. And how are you and Shannon today? Is there hope for your future as friends? I'm trying, I'm trying. You are? I've been trying for two years. You do. It's like we move forward, then we move back. I move forward, we move back. And I feel like now we're doing good, but I don't think she wants anybody to know that we're doing good. Why? Because some people just, you know, they act for the comment section of Instagram. That's the feeling I'm getting. Unless she doesn't wanna like maybe give it away yet. Oh, I see. You know what I mean? Like it could be that too, but I'm like, come on. They see us together and we're photographed and we post pictures and. Yeah, I saw that. So I was a little bit confused. So I feel like Shannon, the tea has been spilled. Like we have, you guys are kind of friends again. I just did a collab with Shannon and Vicky with the old lady in the first 24 hours. She had not accepted the collab that Vicky had. So I don't know if she accepted yet. Wow. Okay. All right, well, in honor of Shannon, let's grab another treat. Okay. All right. Oh, okay. Oh boy. Good as gold. So you were engaged in a feud with Sheena Shea last year. Ah, I knew it. How are we feeling about Sheena Shea today? You know what? I don't really have any hard feelings towards Sheena. I mean, she does a lot on social media and actually she's been pretty quiet, I feel like. Yeah, she's been laying low. Been a little quiet. I hope everything's okay with her. Yeah. Oh my God, that's beautiful to hear. If you ran into Sheena today, what would you say? Hi Sheena, how are you? Okay, it's as easy as that. I love it. Okay, I think we have time for like one or two more treats, Okay, I want the big one. Ooh, the big one. Okay, okay. So Saturday Night Live star, Sarah Sherman, she recently said on Watch What Happens Live that she wouldn't mind seeing Gina leave Orange County, which I wholeheartedly disagree with. I love Gina. I think she adds a lot to the show. What do you say to fans who think Gina's had enough time on the show? There's, I mean, it's a lot on social media. Yeah. I mean, leave her alone. I don't know. She's obviously doing a good job. I was keeping her, so why? I don't know. People wanted me fired, they fired me. So maybe everybody needs to be fired once. Just for a little bit. I don't want to see Gina fired. I don't want to see her fired. Her hair is looking better than ever. And her outfits are better. She looks so good. And I just, I mean, eye on eye for one, appreciate her on the show. Yeah. Do you think that she still has more to give as a housewife? Well, yeah, she's going to get married. Yeah. So yeah, hopefully she gets married. Maybe she'll have a kid. Okay. I don't know. I'm just throwing that out there. I'm making up rumors now. I love that. No, I think she's good. I think that she brings a lot to the show. She is questioning people and she's calling people out. So isn't that what we need? Right. I think so. Okay. One more treat, Tamara. What's it going to be? I don't know. I think it's a croissant. Okay. Ooh. I like this one. Okay. So you and your podcast co-host, Teddy Mellencamp, shared some unfiltered thoughts about Rachel Zoe's first season as a housewife. How could Rachel improve as a housewife? She needs to speak up a little bit more. Okay. And I think that she is somebody that doesn't like a lot of drama in her life, but I think if you're going to be on the show, you need to be more opinionated. And we love seeing her because everybody loves her, but I need a little bit more from her this season. Just a little bit more. Okay, Rachel. She can hang out with Dorit. When I said- Don't do that. You need to work and you need to contribute, I didn't mean you need to be a... Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah. Dorit can teach her. Yes, Dorit gives everything. Dorit, she's doing a good job. I love Dorit as a housewife. She is also on my Mount Rushmore of housewives. You and Dorit are always there. The two other positions kind of like are interchangeable, but you and Dorit just like, I feel like bring so much. She- You understand what's going on. Well, she has really stepped it up since Renna left. Yeah. So we all miss Lisa and the show has never really been the same since then, but I think that Dorit is kind of filling that void now. Yeah, absolutely. Well, Rachel, I hope you're listening to the camera because baby, you could use the advice, Tamara. Thank you so much for joining me for tea. You didn't take one sip of tea. All you did was spill it, which I love that. So cheers to you. I do that for a living, baby. So tune in next time for more tea.