According to an update on Sunday on the blackout that left 30 percent of San Francisco in the dark, a major power company says it has restored power to many of the affected customers. But the lights are still off for more than 16,000 people.
Speeches from Vice President JD Vance, a special guest, and much more wrap up the final day of AmericaFest, hosted by Turning Point USA. NTD's Tiffany Meier has the highlights from Phoenix.
Residents gather to honor the victims of last week's shooting attack in Australia during Hanukkah. Some attendees took part in a symbolic gesture, wearing white to represent that light will prevail over darkness.
More Americans are going to church in the aftermath of conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Steve Lance and Tiffany Meier sat down with Pastor Lucas Miles, senior director of TPUSA faith, for details.
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Welcome to Entity Evening News. Our top
story tonight, an update on the blackout
that left 30% of San Francisco in the
dark. A major power company says it's
restored power to many of the affected
customers, but the lights are still off
in more than 16,000 homes.
Speeches from Vice President JD Vance, a
special guest, and much more wrap up the
final day of America Fest hosted by
Turning Point USA. Entities Tiffany
Meyer has the highlights from Phoenix,
Arizona.
Residents gathering to honor the victims
of last week's shooting attack during
Hanukkah. Some attendees took part in a
symbolic gesture wearing white to
represent that light will prevail over
darkness.
More Americans are going to church. In
the aftermath of conservative activist
Charlie Kirk's assassination, Steve
Lance and Tiffany Meyers sat down with
Pastor Lucas Miles, senior director of
TPUSA Faith for details.
And Rome announces a new charge for
visitors of its historic Trevy Fountain.
The structure was made famous in
Lulchevida and other monuments and
museums in the city.
This is NTV Evening News live from our
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Good evening and thank you for joining
us tonight. I'm Paul Grainy.
The lights are steadily coming back on
after a San Francisco power outage
yesterday that affected 30% of the city
on one of the busiest shopping days
ahead of the holidays. San Francisco
Mayor Daniel Lurri advised people to
stay off the streets while workers
continue to restore power. The outage
coincides with a fire at an electric
substation, although it's not clear what
impact that has had on the overall
outage or if the two are linked. A
popular downtown street endured the
blackout during its peak season.
Supervisor Matt Dorsey said, "The
Saturday before Christmas is
historically one of the busiest shopping
days of the year. We've got the Warriors
game. We've got the ballet. We've got
the symphony and everything going on.
This is the worst time PG&E could have a
problem." There are also reports of
Whimo autonomous vehicles malfunctioning
during the blackout and stopping in the
middle of intersections. Parent company
Alphabet has said it was pausing way
more service there. Most power has since
been restored, but reports say 16,000
are still in in the dark.
And today marks the final day of America
Fest, a 4-day conference held by Turning
Point USA. Entity was on site to capture
the weekend's biggest moments, including
powerful speeches and even a surprise
appearance. Here's Tiffany Meyer with
today's highlights from Arizona. I'm
here in Phoenix, Arizona, where Turning
Point USA has just wrapped up four days
of America Fest. Some of the biggest
names in the conservative circles taking
the stage. On the final day, speakers
included Erica Kirk, Donald Trump Jr.,
and Vice President JD Vance, who earlier
received Erica Kirk's endorsement for
the 2028 presidential election. The
enthusiasm here has been palpable across
all four days with attendees passionate
about carrying forth Charlie Kirk's
legacy. And to end on a high note, even
a surprise special guest took the stage.
Here's that moment, plus some other
highlights.
Hello. How are you?
>> So, those of you who know, Charlie was
very good about having a surprise for
every Amfest
and we we are so blessed to have you. We
are so grateful.
I mean,
>> thank you.
>> I'm honored to be here. I am honored to
be here. Thank you for having me. I have
the utmost respect
and admiration
for our president.
He he has I don't know if he even knows
this, but he's given so many people hope
that there's a chance to
beat the bad guys
and to win and to do it um with your
head held high and um your integrity
intact.
Saturday night I was downtown.
>> He says, "Make America great again
because every American is invited."
So if you love America, if you want all
of us to be richer, stronger, safer, and
prouder, you have a home on this team.
I didn't bring a list of conservatives
to denounce or to deplatform.
And I don't really care if some people
out there, I'm sure, will have the fake
news media, denounce me after this
speech.
But let me just say the best way to
honor Charlie is that none of us here
should be doing something after
Charlie's death that he himself refused
to do in life. He invited all of us
here.
Charlie invited all of us here for a
reason. because he believed that each of
us all of us had something worth saying
and he trusted all of you to make your
own judgment.
>> This was the first major conference for
Turning Point USA since the
assassination of its founder Charlie
Kirk. But if the enthusiasm and numbers
here are any indicator, this movement
isn't going anywhere. As the speeches on
stage have said, it's only growing. And
with Erica Kirk continuing Charlie's
mission, AMFest 2025 drew in large
numbers of female attendees. Many of
those young women crediting Erica with
drawing them in. And in the spirit of
Charlie, several debate stations popped
up inside and outside the venue. For
Charlie famously said, "When people stop
talking, that's when you get violence.
That's when civil war happens."
in Phoenix, Arizona. For NTD News, I'm
Tiffany Meyer.
>> And thousands of people gathered in
Australia today to honor the victims of
the terrorist attack that killed 15
people just last week. Officials in
Israel also honored the victims as the
Jewish community celebrates Hanukkah.
And Jason Perry has the update.
Thousands of people gathered at Bondai
Beach in Australia on Sunday for a mass
vigil held for victims of the terrorist
attack that killed 15 people and injured
more than 40. A Jewish rabbi and his
wife placed a large candle on the stage
before the president of the New South
Wales Jewish Board of Deputies spoke to
the crowd and he said he had a message
to share from the man who disarmed one
of the shooters that day. And friends,
Ahmed has asked me to pass on the
following message to us all. Quote, "The
Lord is close to the brokenhearted.
Today, I stand with you, my brothers and
sisters. Thank you, Ahmed."
>> Many of the people at the event wore
white, which was said to show that light
will always prevail over darkness. One
man attempted to attend the memorial
while wearing a Kafia scarf. However,
Australian police escorted him away from
the event. The scarf is seen as a symbol
to show support for Palestine.
Meanwhile, in Jerusalem, Israeli
President Isaac Herszog said this about
the Australian Jewish community.
>> Instead of lighting the first candle,
our sisters and brothers ran for cover.
The rise of Jew hatred across the world
is a global emergency.
This is an urgent call to action to
prevent the next catastrophe.
>> 15 candles were lit to honor the victims
of the Bondai Beach shooting attack.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu, also in Jerusalem, said this
while at a Hanukkah ceremony.
Sydney,
>> the Chabbad community and all of the
people of Israel have gone through a
great tragedy in Sydney caused by vile
murderers who killed them because they
were Jews and only because they were
Jews.
>> Netanyahu said the spirit of the people
of Israel was not broken and it will not
be broken. Jason Perry, NTD News.
>> And Christians in the Gaza Strip are
preparing to celebrate Christmas as the
holiday approaches. The Latin patriarch
of Jerusalem went to Gaza City where he
led Christmas mass at the Holy Family
Church.
It's the only Catholic church in the
Gaza Strip, which is home to about 1,000
Christians. The church has served as a
shelter for both Christians and Muslims
during the war between Israel and Hamas.
Now that the ceasefire is in place, the
priest said that holiday activities were
underway despite the ongoing challenges.
And still to come this evening, more
Americans are going to church here in
the aftermath of conservative activist
Charlie Kirk's assassination. Steve
Lance and Tiffany Meyer sat down with
Pastor Lucas Miles, senior director of
TPUSA Faith for details.
Also at Amfest, an interview with House
Representative Anna Paulina Luna of
Florida's 13th Congressional District.
Find out what she told NTD about her
hopes for the future and more after this
quick break.
Welcome back. I'm Paul Grainy. More
Americans have be going to church
following Charlie Kirk's assassination.
They're calling it the Charlie Kirk
effect. And Pastor Lucas Miles, senior
director of TPUs Faith, has witnessed
the phenomenon firsthand. He said a
church he preaches at in Indiana has
tripled in size since Charlie's death.
NTDs Steve Lance and Tiffany Meyer spoke
with Miles earlier today for more.
>> With us right now actually is a very
special guest, Lucas Miles. He was also
here with us for the Charlie Kirk
Memorial. It's great to have you here.
You're a pastor, senior director of
Turning Point USA Faith and of course
host of its flagship podcast, Strong
Church with Lucas Miles. Thank you so
much for being with us.
>> Thanks for having me. honor as always
and good to see you both.
>> So, Lucas, talk to us about your uh your
church and what we're hearing about the
Charlie Kirk effect, especially not just
in conservative areas and red states and
red regions, but even in traditionally
blue regions.
>> Yeah. So, a lot of people know me as a
senior director of TP USA Faith, but I
also have a church that I still preach
at and pastor at. Uh, and so I commute
back and forth between here and Indiana.
my church uh has tripled in size since
September 10th. Um uh nobody obviously
expected that. We we had um uh you know
just a tremendous just outpouring ground
swell of people that were showing up.
People had never been to church in their
entire life. People hadn't been to
church in 35 years. People had just
bought their first Bible. Uh we were
seeing people saved, people baptized.
We've probably done, you know, 30
baptisms since Charlie was uh
assassinated. And so, you know, look,
um, what happened to Charlie was
horrific. He was a dear friend. He was
my boss. He was a visionary. I miss him
every single day. Uh, I think that, you
know, what we see in this is that God
takes what the enemy intends for bad and
he brings good on the other side of
that. This Charlie Kirk effect effect is
a real thing and people are are, you
know, returning to the Lord or coming to
Christ for the first time. Uh, and
there's truly seems to be revival in the
air.
>> And with, you know, the Charlie Kirk
effect, of course, he had a big
influence on young men. But this year's
turnout here at America Fest is very
notable. About 30,000 or even more here.
And roughly 54% of that is women, many
first timers, if you will. Are we seeing
what we could be calling a Erica Kirk
effect? I
>> I think that's very fair. I mean, I've
talked about that before and we're
definitely seeing that. And look, it's
needed. Uh when you look, you know,
young men, as you mentioned, have kind
of trended conservative, but we see a
lot of young women that have been
influenced by, I think, many of the pop
icons that are out there. You know, when
you think about um male household name
voices, most of the ones you can think
of that are truly household names are
conservative leaning. You know, people
like Donald Trump, JD Vance, Jordan
Peterson, you know, Charlie Kirk, Ben
Shapiro, Tucker Carlson. These guys all
lean conservative. When you start
thinking about, you know, voices on the
on the uh you know, among women that are
house truly household names, it's harder
to come up with names on the
conservative side that everybody knows.
it's easier to think of people like
Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga and you know
Kla Harris or Michelle Obama. And so I
think what we're seeing is some strong
female um conservatives rise up. Erica
is certainly a shining star amongst
them. Uh she's doing a tremendous job as
the new CEO of of Turning Point USA. All
of us just had a sigh of relief when she
was named and it was an honor to serve
Charlie. It's it's an honor continue to
serve Erica in this capacity.
>> And Lucas, obviously you're a big part
of Turning Point USA, the Turning Point
USA family. talk to us about what this
event three months out it, you know,
it's the time is really a strange thing
since Charlie's assassination and is
this going, is this sort of serving as a
a healing uh event?
>> Yeah, I think I think in many ways this
is a continuation of the memorial.
Obviously, different type of tone and
voice that's here. I think this is as
Erica's referred to it multiple times.
It's sort of these family conversations
that we need to have and obviously we're
having them with a live stream audience
and everything else very publicly, but
but it is it's this important moment for
the the um conservative movement. Uh and
I think it's a very important moment for
Turning Point, but there's still this
sense of do it for Charlie. We're here
for Charlie. This this continuation of
the memorial of of remembering what what
it's all about, what the mission was.
Charlie laid out a very clear vision
moving forward. We're all keeping in
lock step with that. And the whole
Turning Point USA uh structure is very
very unified even across departments.
You know, we're in lock step and we know
where we're going.
>> Seems, you know, with the Charlie Kirk
assassination, many people were saying
it seemed like the nation was on the
brink of a turning point depending on
where that nation is turning to, right?
And it does seem there's a lot of say
ideological factors or even waring even
among different sections if you will of
the United States. And actually, you
have a new book out called Pagan Threat:
Confronting America's Godless Uprising.
What do you mean by paganism and how
does it kind of overlap with Marxism?
>> Yeah, it's a great question. So, you
know, we think about paganism
traditionally, we think of things like
shamanism and and wikah and the occult
or witchcraft. Um these are all sort of
alternative um spiritual practices that
typically have their root in sort of
these esoteric kind of you know maybe
even gnosticleaning more mystical types
of of of uh practices. Uh they don't
usually have a a central deity. They
don't really have you know any sort of
um you know kind of religious framework
the way we think of our mainstream
religions of Buddhism and Christianity
and and and Islam etc. And what we're
seeing right now is that, you know, we
had thinkers like C. Lewis or GK
Chesterton, the Christian world, that
said paganism was dead. It doesn't exist
anymore, you know, but now we've seen
this resurgence. And what I present in
this book is that it's not a organic
resurgence. It's bought and paid for for
the purpose of sort of supplanting the
Christian worldview. Marxism and
Christianity are antithetical to one
another. uh and if you stay in them long
enough, you'll either deconstruct from
your Christian faith or you'll recognize
that that Marxism is antichrist and
anti-f family and anti- good. And so, um
paganism is a better vehicle, I think,
for the p the parasite that is Marxism.
And so, it's attaching itself to these
pagan ideas, especially among young
people and what they're being presented,
uh in attempt to really kind of um erode
this Christian worldview and I think
begin to shift the culture. And Lucas,
if you could talk to us about give us
some ideas, give us some examples of how
this actually takes place in practice.
And you also talk about how these pagan
ideas are repackaged as something called
progressive Christianity. Um, explain
that.
>> Yeah. So, I think we have a couple
things that are going on here. So, when
we look at maybe a few examples, so
there was a there was a film that came
out or a series that came out on Amazon
Prime called Hasbin Hotel. It's one of
the top series on the platform. It's an
animated series. Well, anytime you have
an animated series, there's always an
attractiveness for young kids and but
this had very much adult content and it
was on this princess of hell who was
sort of rehabilitating demons due to
overpopulation in hell. And but the
whole opening to the show and the kind
of the continued message is really is is
sort of um uh pointing people in the
direction that Lucifer is the good guy
that he's the one that was the
lightbearer. He was the one that brought
the knowledge of good and evil. And it
was really the elders of heaven. They
don't even mention God. It's just the
elders of heaven that was trying to
restrict man from being able to know the
knowledge of good and evil. And so it's
sort of this flip-flop. See, in Marxism,
there requires this oppressor versus
oppressed framework. Well, the ultimate,
you know, when you start going deeper
and deeper, it's not just it's not just
the man, it's not just the wealthy
class, it's not just the white man. It
when you go further, it has to be
something higher. Eventually, God
becomes the oppressor. And so this plays
very well with a paganist sort of
anti-God structure where they can unify
around this idea that Christianity or
Jesus or God are the the enemies.
They're the oppressive forces and that
these these pagan ideas and ultimately
Lucifer is the light bearer trying to
bring this knowledge of good and evil.
And so we're seeing this, you know, much
in the same way we see this red green
alliance between communism and Islam,
we're seeing sort of similar alliance
happening between Marxist or communist
thought and paganism finding that same
kind of you're the enemy of my enemy is
my friend that they are, you know, in
order to advance their purposes.
>> And expanding on that Marxist ideology
of the oppressor versus the oppressed
framework, if you will, how are we
seeing that play out here in America in
terms of dividing society and even
communities? Yeah, I think that, you
know, when you look at Christianity,
this is the first time in roughly, you
know, 1,800 years where Christians have
been vilified um due to their uh their
their moral stance or their religious
views. So now 30 years ago, Christians
in Hollywood, they were seen as holier
than thou, goody two shoes, you didn't
want to drink a beer or cuss in front of
them because you're afraid they might
judge you. They were viewed as having a
higher standard, but maybe just not very
much fun. right now. What we're seeing
is Christians are called bigoted,
homophobic. Uh they're seen as being
bad. You know, they're insurrectionist
uh because of the, you know, Christian
nationalism and they want to see people
influence with the gospel. So, they must
be against the state. And so, these are
terms that were used for Christians in
early Rome. Uh there was actually a
whole, you know, series of books written
by and letters written by people like
Jerome or Justin Martyr who are making a
plea to the emperors of the day because
people were accusing Christians of being
insurrectionists and bad for the
economy. They were accused of being um
cannibalistic because they consumed the
body and blood of Jesus through the
sacraments. They were accused of being
incestual because they referred to their
spouses as their brother or sister in
Christ. People didn't understand them.
And so they had these these accusations
and and apologies, meaning a defense of
the faith, not a not a saying I'm sorry,
but defending their position were
written to try to um uh show people that
it's actually Christians that are the
best for the state because they are
there to serve not the state. they're
actually there to be the best citizens
of heaven and to display that by being
the best citizens here on earth as well.
And so, uh, it's an interesting time.
History is repeating itself. Uh, but
because of technology, because of the
way in which money is flowing, I think
it's much has a potential to be much
more aggressive today. And although we
haven't seen direct maybe Christian
persecution here on a massive scale in
the United States, we've started seeing
that in other places with arrests and
and you know, uh, restrictions of
speech. And I think it's just a matter
of time if we don't have a shift here in
this nation that we're going to start
seeing this pop up here.
>> And to that point, why do you think it
is that younger people are more
vulnerable to these, you know, subtle
ideologies, Marxism, paganism, and what
do you think the faith community can do
to better sort of safeguard uh these
things from happening?
>> Yeah, I think that indoctrination has
started very young, you know, over
especially the last several decades. And
so where you know uh people in our age
bracket we might have a chance to kind
of lean back on some earlier things. I
remember saying the pledge at school. I
remember you know I remember people
praying at school although it wasn't
official part of the school day. It was
not it was not something that was you
know you were criticized for. Uh I I
knew lots I knew teachers that used to
bring their Bible to school and have
them there in the classroom. You know
that's foreign today. And so you know
what we've seen is kind of a shift in
culture. Even just like, you know, if
you're old enough to remember September
11th and the patriotism that everybody
felt afterwards and the unity that we
had as Americans, you know, we don't
have those same moments right now.
Honestly, the assassination of Charlie
Kirk was the closest thing that we have
to that. That's and that was, I think,
in many ways, not to sound tright with
this or cliche, but that's why that has
been called this turning point that it
that there was a shift that people
started waking up and going, you know
what, the direction that we're going in,
it's gone too far. We're starting to see
when people are actually, this is not
just speech anymore. when they are
actually using violence to silence
somebody that's all they're doing is
willing to talk to somebody who
disagrees with them with a microphone uh
and they're going to you know they're
going to take their life um then maybe
something needs to change. So I'm
optimistic that that there's still a
chance to head in a better direction.
But we have to realize that there's a
lot of there's a lot of noise out there.
There's a lot of opposition online. Uh
it's hard to sort out how much is real,
how much is not with bots and different
things that take place. And so you know
we need revival more than ever. My team
at TPSA Faith is really focused on that
and uh we we hope it's it's not too late
and we got you know we're going to just
keep working until you know we see this
deliverance from the Lord.
>> Faith director of TPUSA, Pastor Lucas
Miles. Really appreciate all of your
insights here with us.
>> Thank you.
>> And earlier entity Steve Lance and
Tiffany Meyer sat down with
Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna of
Florida to talk about American values,
the threat from the Chinese Communist
Party, and her hopes for future American
leaders. Let's listen to that.
>> And joining us now, we have a very
special guest, House Representative Anna
Paulina Luna, representing Florida's
13th district. Congresswoman, thank you
so much for joining us.
>> Thank you.
>> Now, you've said before that you owe
your position in Congress to Charlie
Kirk. So, as you look around at this
America Fest this year, what values do
you see here that you're excited to
carry forward in this next chapter?
>> Open debate and discourse. I think
that's the number one thing that needs
to be protected in this country right
now. I mean, there is no question in my
mind that the reason why Charlie Cook
was murdered by Tyler Robinson was
because of the fact that he was speaking
truth specifically on the issue of
transitioning on trans violence in this
country and he was murdered because of
it. Um, I think that, you know, when you
run away from those facts, when you
refree to talk about them, that's when
the narratives can form. That's when you
see some of the terrible optics from the
left celebrating his murder and saying
that he was hateful. He was never
hateful. They clipped his speeches,
tried to paint him something that he
wasn't. um he was the most peaceful man
when it came to open debate discourse.
If you disagreed with him, he'd bring
you to the front of the line. And I
think that that needs to be championed
today. You know, we might have our
differences within the Conservative
party, but we are a heck of a lot better
than what's happening in the UK right
now where they are literally jailing
people if you post a meme. You have mass
migration of military-aged males from
radical countries that are literally
raping women. They can't do a damn thing
about it. And so, that's what we're up
against if we don't get our stuff
together. So, I'll continue holding it
out in the Hill, but I'm going to have
to get some of my conservative
colleagues in the pundit circles to join
me on that matter.
>> Speaking of that, you are uh going
against the grain in your own right
>> sometimes.
>> Um
>> for good though.
>> Talk to us how conservatives ultimately
win the battle, not just culturally or
electorally, but both.
>> Uh we have to be not on defense, but
straight up offense. I think that you're
seeing a lot of that momentum out of
Trump's administration, but Trump's not
going to be around forever. Who carries
that torch and that legacy? I can tell
you I'm not going to be in Congress
forever. This is the most difficult
negative on a regular basis job, but I'm
doing it because it's public service and
it's the right thing to do. And we have
to help get other candidates elected.
I'm very involved in the Republican
primaries. I've endorsed a few
candidates. I know Turning Point Action
has as well. So, we're kind of aligning
on that and going out and literally
doing stump speeches for these
candidates to get them into office. and
they're replacing incumbents that were
okay, but they weren't MAGA. They
weren't great. And so, we're looking
forward to having that new energy in
Washington. Um, again, this goes into
the issue of why is Washington, why is
there so much fatigue? Well, we could
talk about age limits as well. That's
probably a separate discussion. Um, but
I think you move forward, you're talking
about, you know, continuing this
momentum and we have to ensure that the
next generation, specifically younger
people are involved. And so, I come here
and it's a good reality check as opposed
to what happens in the bubble of
Washington DC. you live there. You know,
Washington DC is definitely not the real
world and so I try to leave as much as
possible
>> and it'll make you quite cynical to be
honest.
>> Oh, yeah. It's very dark and and dirty,
but you know, you go to the free state
of Florida and we're all happy and so I
like to go back as much as possible.
>> Well, we see a lot of young women here,
but it seems young women in general
maybe are slower to engage with the
conservative movement. Why do you think
there is that gap? Um, well, I know that
President Trump got out a lot of young
women, young men, too, to vote for him
in 2025, but that was specifically
because of the Maja coalition that was
formed. So, you can't forget about Maha.
I've been big on Maha before Maha was
Maha. And so, we want to make sure that,
you know, our kids are not being
groomed. We want to make sure that we're
empowering mother over government. And
then also, too, that we're ensuring that
our products are not being, you know,
basically fed to make us sick and that
we're not exposing ourselves to
unnecessary cancers because we're
supporting big corporation over what's
right for the American people. And so
we've been very good at pushing it back
against that. President Trump's been
leading out the efforts though, whether
it's the prescription capping of prices,
but Congress needs to codify. And so I
think that those discussions need to be
had, but also too, you can see that
President Trump has been empowering
women. You have the chief of staff,
Susie Wild. She's now been named one of
the most influential women in the world
by Forbes magazine. You have Caroline
Levit, one of the youngest press
secretaries in the world. But you have
to remember to talk about those issues
that matter. Sometimes makeup might not
sound like a sexy topic, but when you're
talking about all the toxic in makeup,
it becomes sexy to women. So, we're
going to champion those causes.
>> And you famously got involved with
Turning Point before launching your
political official political.
>> I was at Turning Point when their first
conference had like maybe 250 people at
it. So, we're OG Turning Point.
>> So, you can actually speak to what this
one is like and where we're at right
now, where the event is at right now,
and also what role uh events like
Turning Point have in shaping the
conservative movement. Let me tell you,
250 people to 25,000 a day. Quite
different, right? I think the most uh
the biggest testament to Charlie's
legacy was his memorial when they packed
out an arena, which was serendipitous
because Charlie had always talked about
that with his internal team that he kind
of had that vision for Turning Point.
And now they're doing it at multiple
events when you saw them doing those um
campus tours after Charlie passed away.
And so I think that these events will
continue and I think it's going to be a
driving force not just for the midterms,
but presidentials and moving forward. So
where they thought that they could
silence Charlie and silence the
movement, they actually just were
responsible for exploding it. And in
that sense, we're grateful for them
because Charlie, that's what ultimately
he wanted. He's in a way better place
right now. Charlie's carrying out that
legacy. And obviously, we're horrified
at the circumstances which happened. But
as Erica Kirk said, they want to make
heaven crowd. And I think they're doing
just that.
>> And Congresswoman, it seems there's
almost a war of cultures right now,
especially with the Marxist goal, if you
will, of dividing the country from
within. And you're seeing that a lot in
the school system. What do you see in
terms of strengthening, if you will, the
country's moral values, maybe within
communities to start, but then to spread
it out?
>> Um, well, there's a lot of money coming
specifically from China that's being
funneled into these Marxist
organizations that are using immigrants,
like for example, those ICE riots. I
actually call them the Teimu rights
because Neville Singham was an
individual who literally is across from
I think it's like the the communism
propaganda headquarters in China. He's
directly from that. I mean he is guilty
of far violations out the wazoo and he
was the one funding these anti-ICER
writes, the party for socialism and
liberation. All of these very far-left
progressive movements. You can even look
at Code Pink which is a pro Palestine
group that likes to target and really um
go into Congress and talk about the
Israel versus Palestine issue. again
funded by China. And so I think if
you're looking at a lot of the money
ties, I mean, you have to expose it, but
a lot of your average American, they're
not worried about, you know, where the
money is coming from because they
genuinely maybe might care about these
issues. And the problem is though is
that instead of actually opening up a
respectful discourse and dialogue, the
right to debate and do it respectfully,
there's thinking that, you know, it
might be a good idea to, you know, drop
off pallets of bricks and burn things,
you know, we typically we don't heir on
the side of wanting to support Molotov
cocktails and destroy destruction of of
uh private property. And so I think
exposing that's a really important
thing. But I mean, you know, you talk
about how they do divide from win
within. And you know, Tik Tok was big on
that. Up until recently, I refused to
use Tik Tok because the algorithms were
showing kids how, you know, being
transgender was cooler than becoming a
doctor. How, you know, you wanted to
embrace these left-wing ideologies, yet
if you were pushing conservatism, you
were all of a sudden xenophobic and
racist. I don't want my kid learning
that. Do you want your kids learning
that? No. Most Americans don't. And so,
it was absolutely targeted brainwashing.
But we're identifiing now. We're
triaging, but we need more people in
Washington. The DOJ is in infested with
bureaucrats that are obstructionists.
Same with the Pentagon. Same with a lot
of these three-leter agencies, FBI, CIA.
So, we could have our people at the top,
but at every level, there are going to
be people that are blocking and
obstructing.
>> With regard to China, Congresswoman
obviously recognized as the United
States greatest adversary, not
competitor, adversary, enemy. What can
Congress do to further protect the
United States from
>> I I we have to wage full-fledged DOJ
power of the purse. I want seizing of
assets. I want to stop funds. If someone
is guilty of far violations, throw them
in jail. We cannot just send strongly
worded letters from Congress. And I'm
not at the DOJ. And probably it's better
for them that I'm not because I'd have a
lot of people in jail. So look, um, what
I will say is that unfortunately there's
been a lot that's been handed over to
the DOJ in regards to certain
authorities that we have in Congress.
That's not necessarily a good thing
because we're seeing that the DOJ has a
lot of internal corruption right now
that's predated this administration. But
we do need to be able to leverage, you
know, things like those, you know,
seizing assets. If you have someone
that's not responding to Congress and
they're guilty of these far violations
and funding terrorist groups within the
United States, that's not not
constitutional. That's fully within our
rights and authorities and the Treasury
Department as well. Uh, but not just
that, I think that President Trump has
been very strategic at what he's been
ashing asking of the president of China,
leveraging tariff warfare. I mean, all
of that has not been done by accident.
He's not stupid and so he's very good.
I'm very happy to have him in this
position because a lot of people think
that, you know, there's some crazy
strategy behind the scenes and there is
there's a group of smart people, but
it's our people and there's no one else
coming. So, get off the sidelines.
>> Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, really
appreciate your time.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you.
And still to come, details on a new
documentary by the Epoch Times all about
Charlie Kirk's legacy. Steve Lance and
Tiffany Meyer sat down with Joshua
Phillip, senior investigative reporter
for the Epoch Times for more.
And Rome introducing new charges for
travelers looking to visit the city's
famed Trevy Fountain. Additional tourist
sites will also get a charge tacked on.
More details right after the break here
on NTD News.
Welcome back. I'm Paul Greeny. Earlier,
entity Steve Lance and Tiffany Meyer sat
down with Joshua Phillip. He's a senior
investigative reporter for the Epoch
Times and is a new documentary about
Charlie Kirk's legacy that just came
out. Let's watch that interview.
>> Josh, thank you so much for joining us.
>> Hey, always a pleasure and great being
here. Now, this is actually the largest
America Fest in Turning Point history.
What has been your experience so far
this year? What does this turnout signal
to you?
>> Well, it's incredible. I I've heard they
have about 30,000 people here, 10,000 on
the wait list if people choose to leave.
And uh yeah, last year was 20,000. So, I
I would say this is part of the Charlie
Kirk effect. Charlie actually inspired a
lot of people. And I really do believe
that uh I was wondering what the effect
was going to be. What's the future
turning point? It really does feel
stronger than it's ever been.
>> And Josh, one of the main reasons that
you know we're doing this interview is
to talk about the amazing film uh that
you've put together. It's called Truth
Under Fire: The Framing of Charlie Kirk.
Talk to us about the subtitle.
>> Yeah, so this actually started out fir
Okay, so it expanded a bit. It started
first into an investigation into how
Charlie Kirk was framed because of
course, you know, acts of violence often
have reasons behind them and it it seems
that somebody was very brainwashed
enough or hated someone enough to kill
them. Now, Donald Trump actually came up
with an order or, you know, calling for
investigations into this, a type of
conspiracy against rights. And what he's
alleging effectively is that there's a
system in place to first of all defame
people then dox them, you know, expose
their home address, their personal
information, mark them for attack, and
then make examples out of them. Uh,
saying, "Hey, I don't want to go speak
at that event because Antifa might show
up and they might beat me. I don't want
to go make my opinions heard on, you
know, publicly or at my school even
because I might get attacked and I might
get expelled from my school. I don't
want to lose my job. I don't want to get
hit pieces done to me by the media." And
what this is being framed at is is it
effectively effectively a conspiracy
against constitutional rights. Uh
something that scares you out of
engaging in freedom of speech. Something
that scares you out of engaging in
freedom of assembly. And in that effect
works as a form of really political
terrorism. Now Charlie Kirk, I believe,
was a victim of this. And so the
investigation set out to find how was
Charlie Kirk framed? What were the
organizations that framed him? How does
the system work? What is this machine
that cancels people, doxses people, then
marks them for attack? And from there,
it actually expanded into
it was a moment I had and you two were
at the Charlie Kirks memorial as well,
actually right here in Arizona. Was a
moment I had walking into the stadium
onto the stadium floor and you just it
was like perfect timing. Things went
kind of quiet and everybody raised their
signs, you know, I am Charlie Kirk,
remember Charlie Kirk. And I had a
moment I was like, "Wow, you know what?
I'm witnessing something that I've never
witnessed before." I really had the
sense that for the first time in my
life, I'm seeing really in my my own two
eyes what a martyr looks like. This is
what happens when somebody in their
death is more powerful than in life.
That he inspired people through that.
And uh I wanted to capture that as well
to make sure that's not forgotten to
history.
I want to expand on the media point that
you were talking about when we look at
the broader media environment. How do
you believe the media painted Charlie in
the years leading up to his death?
>> So, you know, when I do investigations,
my first step is I trace things back to
the origin, then I then I trace it
forward. So, the origin of the hit
pieces on Charlie was 2017. That was
after the Charlottesville attack, right?
Uh so, what happened at the time? You
had a group of individuals who were
tearing down Confederate statues. And
you had counterprotesters. They went to
Charlottesville. Then you had the very
extreme types show up, the Antifa, and
then you had the crazy alt-right guys of
the tiki torches. Everyone remembers
that probably. Then you had the kid who
drove his car through the crowd, killed
a young woman. You know, the rest is
history. The media then questioned
Donald Trump, "Do you condemn this? Will
you condemn the alt-right? Will you, you
know, we we say something bad about
him?" And Trump said, "Yeah." So what
Trump what Donald Trump said effectively
was this. You know what there were fine
people on both sides. Uh there were
people who you know wanted the
Confederate stat people who tried to
stop it and they were peaceful
protesters but then you had the crazy
people and they came out beating each
other with baseball bats and they were
vicious and it was terrible and I
condemned them absolutely. Donald Trump
condemned the alt-right that day and I'd
say that I'd say actually the alt-right
died in Charlottesville that day because
they lost presidential support. very
very directly. The media took that and
they twisted it. They said Donald Trump
called them very fine people and he
refused to condemn the alt-right. Both
of which were lies. That was a false
narrative promoted. They misqued him,
took it out of context, and then
actually lied to people about Donald
Trump not not condemning the alt-right.
And then they went to Trump's
supporters. They framed MAGA as being an
alt-right fascist movement because
Donald Trump didn't disavow them.
Therefore, they're all outright, which
was not true, but that's what they said.
And then they said, well, Charlie Kirk
at the time, very still very young. I
realize how young he was actually still
very young and you know, kind of really
part of the MAGA movement. Yeah. people
who supported Trump in his community,
uh, students at the time, they said,
"Well, you will you disavow the Trump
supporters because they're the
alt-right. Donald Trump didn't condemn
them, therefore he's a Nazi, and if you
don't condemn him, therefore, you're a
Nazi." And Charlie Kirk said, "No, I'm
not going to condemn them. There's
nothing wrong with them. They're not
they're not extreme. They just like the
president of the United States. What's
your problem?" They framed him using
that. And what you had then was a game
of telephone, right? You you say one
thing to one person, they say it to the
next person to the next person. It went
from Charlie Kirk does not disavow the
uh you know the Trump supporters,
therefore they're Nazis, therefore he
has Nazis in his midst, to Charlie Kirk
is a Nazi. And and that was how the the
narrative was framed. Over time, as the
media began putting this in their
headlines, Charlie Kirk has extremists
in his midst, you started then having
official organizations taking and making
reports about him. According to the New
York Times, he has these people in his
midst. According to this newspaper, he
has people in his midst. According to
this, therefore, this is an extremist
movement. Therefore, he's the leader of
an extremist movement. Therefore, you
know, this is the narrative. And that's
how they framed him. And then you have
these agitated youth who, you know, they
they believe in this whole worldview.
They're sitting, I don't know, in their
basement or whatever else. And they're
saying, "This guy's baby Hitler. This
guy's going to grow up one day, and he's
going to become Hitler. And what do you
do to baby Hitler? Well, you kill him,
right? That's what happened to Charlie
Kirk.
>> There's a lot there, Josh, with regard
to sort of the picture that you painted
in terms of these leftist Marxist uh
movements, these underpinnings that are
trying to suppress ultimately uh
people's speech and thoughts. Charlie
was ultimately a victim. He paid the
ultimate price to be silenced with the
bullet through his neck. But prior to
that, one thing that sort of made
Charlie different was that he did not
succumb to a lot of those demands and a
lot of that pressure. It's not as easy
for your average student or person uh to
have that type of willpower and
strength. Do you see the conservative
movement, the Turning Point USA family
carrying on that legacy? And
>> yeah, I mean I mean look at look look at
this place. You know, after Charlie got
killed, I had a lot of people tell me,
"Hey, uh, Josh, you should be careful
speaking at events." I I was supposed to
speak at an event in South Korea with
Charlie just a few days before he got
killed. Actually, it was one of the last
events he did that in Japan. And, you
know, I was scheduled to speak at
another event that same week. People
were calling me up, Josh, be careful. We
don't want to see this happen to you.
And I had a moment. I was like, you
know, should I be careful? And then I
thought about I actually thought about
Charlie and I was like, you know what?
If someone told Charlie, "Hey, you're
gonna get someone's gonna try to kill
you, you know, be quiet." I don't think
he would have done it. I I knew Charlie.
In fact, even more than that, I think if
someone I think if someone were to show
Charlie, this is what you will achieve
in your death. You're going to have
churches doubling in capacity. You're
going to have young kids turning back to
their faith. You're going to have people
remembering what they stand for. Will
you die to do this? And Charlie would
have. I know Charlie. he he would have
said, "Yeah, kill me." Uh because, you
know, I'll be a martyr and that that
that is what I live for. Uh and so, you
know, it inspired me and I think a lot
of people here, it inspired them in the
same way. I've seen it in kids talking
to youth, talking to some of the youth
leaders at the schools. Not only did
they not shrink in, you know, in respect
to, hey, geez, there's crazy people out
there looking to kill people for doing
this. You just had some turning point
chapter head get killed. Actually, it's
the opposite. They're saying, "You know
what? I need to be brave because other
people were brave before me. I need to
stand up because other people stood up
before me, and I'm not going to shrink
into the shadows and be too afraid to
stand for what I stand for."
>> Joshua Phillip, Truth Under Fire.
Excellent uh insights into Charlie
Kirk's life and legacy. Greatly
appreciate you joining us.
>> Anytime. Thank you.
>> Powerful stuff. Still to come, AAA says
record numbers of people will be getting
on the road and taking to the air this
holiday season. More on how to navigate
the holiday travel rush and what to
expect. And Rome adds new charges to
popular tourist sites, including the
basin in front of the Trevy Fountain.
The charge is meant to streamline
operations.
Welcome back. I'm Paul Grainy. There is
no place like home for the holidays. So,
if you're traveling, brace yourself for
a lot of traffic on the highways and at
the airports. AAA is expecting holiday
travel numbers to break records this
year. Here the details on what to
expect. The holiday travel rush is
underway. If you're hitting the roads or
skies, you should expect plenty of
traffic and long lines at airports.
>> Holiday travel is big. AAA spokesperson
Aika Diaz says they're expecting more
than 122 million people to travel
starting Saturday, December 20th through
New Year's Day. That would be a new
record.
>> What happens at the end of the year is
that you've got this two week period
when people are coming and going during
different times.
>> AAA says close to 110 million people
will drive to their destination. So, if
you want to see more green than red on
your GPS maps, here are the worst times
to travel the next few days. TripleA
recommends leaving very early or late at
night. The lightest traffic days are
expected to be Christmas Eve, Christmas
Day, New Year's Eve, and New Year's Day.
Airports are expected to be packed as
well. AAA estimates more than 8 million
people will fly. The TSA this week
warning passengers to expect busy
airports.
>> We do expect uh a significant increase
in holiday travel during this holiday
period.
>> If you are flying, the TSA has some
reminders for passengers. Do not bring a
snow globe on board. The amount of water
inside likely exceeds the 3.4 ounce
liquid rule, so it must be checked. They
also discourage people from wrapping
presents.
>> Anything that's fully wrapped are our
officers who screen the checked baggage
may need to unwrap this in the checked
baggage screening as well.
>> Instead, they suggest putting gifts in
bags like this so TSA agents can easily
screen what's inside. Here's the good
news for travelers. Gas prices are
cheaper than last year. As of Saturday,
the national average for a regular
gallon of gas was around $2.87.
>> And for all you world travelers, Rome
will soon charge a fee to visit its
famous fountain along with some other mu
monuments and museums.
Starting from February 1st, a paid
ticket has been introduced for six
museums and monuments that until now
were free. The Trevy Fountain, or rather
the part of the basin adjacent to the
Trevy Fountain, to which there has
already been limited access today, as
you know, for about a year. The Villa of
Menzio, the Napoleonic Museum, the
Giovani Barakco Museum of Ancient
Sculpture, the Carlo Bilote Museum, and
the Pro Canonica Museum Carlo.
>> City has been experimenting with a
system to limit visits to the basin area
in front of the Trevy Fountain for about
a year already. that will continue but
with an added charge equivalent to
$2.35.
The mayor said the current system has
streamlined visits to the basin and
those efforts will also continue. The
charge applies during the day but after
nightfall access is free. The mayor
emphasized that there is no charge to
look at the fountain just to enter the
basin area. The fee that applies to six
city museums will be around $6, but
residents of Rome and the surrounding
areas won't have to pay. The plans come
after success seen by ticketing visits
to Rome's Pantheon Monument and Venice's
tourist tax meant to ease over tourism
and make the city more livable for
residents.
And for on the clock coverage, visit us
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I'm Paul Greeny. Good night.
Hi, I'm Tiffany Meyer and from all of us
here at NTD Evening News and China in
Focus, we wish you an extra magical
holiday season and a wonderful start to
the new year.