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>> My question is, how do I stop my
fiance's mother from stealing her
student loans?
>> Stealing whose student loans?
>> My fiance's.
>> Okay. So, your future mother-in-law took
the money that your wife fiance took out
for student loans and is using it for
nefarious purposes.
It it seems so. So, um last week we were
trying to figure out, you know, hey,
what are her student loans going to look
like? She transferred from a university
to a community college to finish her
nursing um nursing program. and her and
we asked her mom because apparently her
my fiance's student loans went to her
mom's checking account because her mom
wanted to put it from her checking
account into my fiance's savings. But
here's the kicker. My fiance's savings,
she's only a signer. her mom is the
custodial
um the custodian and can only allow
with her mom's permission to see her own
savings.
>> What in the Britney Spears
conservatorship is going on here? Why
does she have control of a grown woman's
finances?
>> Excellent question.
>> Here's to answer your question. You
brother can do nothing.
>> I know.
>> Okay. Nothing. Your your fiance does not
have a checking account. She she uses
her mom's,
>> right? And we we actually changed sorry
we actually changed her all of her funds
that were in her old checking account to
a new bank because her mom was actually
taking little amounts of from her
checking,
>> right?
>> And so we move we moved we moved
accounts.
>> Well, hold on. It wasn't hers. It was
her mom's,
>> right?
>> And so her mom was taking money out of
the account that she set up with her
name on it and just happened to attach
her daughter to it.
>> Yeah. And
>> I think the frustrating thing is, you
know, it was her money. It's her money
that's going in there.
>> Um,
>> she needs to stop putting money in there
>> cuz now your fiance is on the hook for
loans that she never saw the money for.
Like, did the money even go to the
school to pay for the tuition?
>> We That's what we're trying to figure
out. So, we know that when she was at um
university, she we know the we know the
amounts went there. Um and she here in
Missouri, we have a thing called A+
where you get your community college for
free if as long as you do like, you
know, community service hours, right?
And so that's why she transferred from
university to use those and to get her
um to finish her nursing program at um a
community college um because the same,
you know, same title, right? So um we we
we don't know and that's why we were
trying to look and every time we ask her
mom like, "Hey, how much is there?" she
kind of beats around the bush and then
gets gets kind of annoyed with us.
>> All you have to all you have to do is um
two things. one, your fiance needs to
put a freeze on her credit report
so nobody will borrow any more money
against her. Period.
>> Mhm.
>> She also needs to pull her credit report
and see what else cuz often this kind of
behavior doesn't happen in a vacuum.
>> Right.
>> So if moms
>> and we did
>> we did pull the credit report. Um and I
actually have the breakdowns of I think
there's four or five individual loans.
We just can't see if they were cash to
um the university or community college
or not. So you need to contact those
institutions. Get a balance and say,
"Hey, was this do I have any past due
bills? Were all these things paid? I
need receipts for all this." You
basically need to be your own forensic
forensic accountant and go back through
everything and figure out what was paid,
what was owed, what are all the
receipts, how much loans did we take
out, and then there also needs to be
this come to Jesus conversation with mom
cuz she's essentially committed identity
theft and fraud,
>> right? And that's what we're concerned
about because I mean we don't want
Christmas and Thanksgiving especially.
>> Well, that's over being Listen, homie.
That ship has sailed.
>> If your mother-in-law or your future
mother-in-law is is
enough to steal from her daughter,
Christmas is over, brother.
>> At least for a while. So, you have to
let that go. I'm also going to tell
you this. You have to be your your
fiance's chief supporter, not you
dragging her around through a Law and
Order episode. You're using the words we
a lot. And y'all aren't married yet.
This is hers. And I know you want to be
a supportive boyfriend. You're all in.
We're going to build a future together
and all that,
>> but you need to see her also take the
reigns of her own life.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. And relationally speaking, if she
won't back down to her mother, I mean,
if she won't stand up to her mom who's
stealing from her, if she won't take
this initiative, you're going to deal
with this for the rest of your life.
It'll happen with kids. It'll happen
with house. It'll happen with
everything. So, y'all need to have that
relationship conversation.
>> It's a big old red flag.
>> Huge red flag.
>> I would not get married until we solve
this, right?
>> And there's a there's a forever solution
to this,
>> right? And that's, you know, that's why
we're dealing with this now. First of
all, we're getting married in 6 months.
Um, and we were like, "Okay, we know she
graduates in December. Let's take care
of this." And we have had the brief we
we've had have a we have had a
conversation like, "Hey, I can't, you
know, I can't be there when you talk to
your mom because I'm going to be on the
bad side." And it's going to be like,
"Why is your why is your f future
husband, you know, getting mad about
money?" Um, and she she needs to have
that conversation with her mom and her
dad,
>> right?
>> It's not really her dad, but it's her
mom. And so, we've addressed that. But
we just have to get to that
conversation, that next point.
>> Yeah.
The other side of this is it may be that
the same lack inability to have this
conversation, the same ability to quote
unquote stand up on her own two feet.
Um, your fiance, it may be that mom has
just been taking care of everything
forever
>> and this there's there's nothing shady
going on. She just deposited the check
in her account that she opened up for
her daughter when she was 12 and she
just kept the same account. And yeah,
she buys coffee with it or whatever, but
in her mind, she also puts money. Like,
who who knows,
>> right?
>> So, right now, y'all have a story that
you can make up on one side that you're
dealing with the wicked wisd,
right? Either way, you need to go to the
colleges and find out what your balance
is. That should be a two second either
look into a portal or a two second phone
call. What's my balance? How much I owe
for tuition?
>> And then find out how much has been
borrowed.
>> If there's a gap there, then mom needs
to come up with that gap or y'all going
to either have to decide we're going to
pay it or we're going to have to um go
contact the the non-emergency line with
our local sheriff cuz my mom stole
thousands of dollars from me. I mean, I
don't want to make it so simple, but I
don't want the emotion to get such a big
deal like we got to do,
>> man. just go pull the reports, find the
numbers, and then deal with the reality
that you got before you.
>> But but but listen, Christmas and
Thanksgiving are different for forever.
>> Okay?
>> Get that that ship has sailed.
>> All right?
>> There's a spectrum here from control
freak to criminal. And so your job is
just to be a support for her, help her
research this, but she needs to take the
reigns. She needs to regain control of
whatever was lost in her life and have
the hard conversations with mom. and you
just stepping in the middle of that to
be the hero is is not going to play out
long term.
>> And two other things, don't ever, this
is going to sound crazy, don't talk bad
about her mom. Talk good about her.
Support her. And the second thing is,
man, if she won't have a hard
conversation with her mom now, I promise
you, she's not going to have hard
conversations when the stakes get higher
after y'all are married.
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