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I guess I'm just kind of asking for a little bit of advice
or what my husband and I should do next.
So he has a lot of student loan debt.
However, not all of it is in his name.
Part of it is in his father's name
and part of it is in his mother's name.
So with that being said,
in total, it's probably about $170,000.
And so we're paying the loan in his name
as well and those of his parents' name
and it's just it costs so much a month we cannot afford
to live so i was just seeing maybe what
your thoughts were on what we can do to pay it off
quickly but also to maybe make that payment
a little smaller what was the was the plan because
it sounds like Parent Plus loans was the plan initially
for him to pay back his parents or did
they say hey we'll take out these loans
so you can go to school like what was the plan um so i think
it was just to take them out so he
could go to school. Honestly, I've
asked and they've never really given me an answer.
They have, not only his,
he has five other siblings that they
have in their name, so we can't consolidate.
Right. So are his parents
broke? Is there a zero chance they're actually going to pay
these loans?
They would have to if we didn't pay.
However, we feel guilty
like, you know, these are his loans.
So we just don't know what to do.
They're trying to refinance them in our name.
However, we aren't
We can't do that. His interest rates are so low.
That would be ridiculous to do.
So there's a lot circulating here that needs clarity.
The first thing is,
and listen, you're talking to someone
who has been exactly where you're at. Exactly.
And so the first thing is let's get clarity on the story.
And for him, it's probably a little
uncomfortable because he's sitting in the middle
of the two systems that he loves most. He's
sitting in between your family, you guys,
this family system and the family system he came out
of. And he's just in the middle feeling like he's probably
not doing well for either of them because
of this debt. Right. So let's kind of recognize the,
probably the guilt and shame that he's
feeling. And when you talk to him about it,
just say, Hey, I don't think we can move forward
effectively until we can really understand what's going
on and what the expectation was and what it
is today. So if he can have that conversation with his mom
and dad and say, what was your
expectation? Because here's the way I viewed it.
And if his expectation, I'm not trying to put
words in his mouth, but if he thought, hey,
my mom and dad are covering this and I'm covering
this portion, he needs to assert that and say,
you guys said that you were going to cover those
loans and I was to cover these.
And so for my family, I need to do what we said and cover the
ones that i'm on the hook for now if that's not the case
then we can talk about if you don't think
that was the case and the case
was no no matter what he's supposed to pay back all of them even
the ones that aren't in his name fine we just need
to figure out what it is yeah what do you think
what's your gut telling you i do think maybe initially they
were probably thinking they could
help him out um and then each sibling decided they wanted
to go to school and so now they can't
afford to pay for, you know, five, five kids, college loan debt.
So, um, I think even if that
was initial plan, they would never see it that way,
if I'm being honest. That's fair. And that's
their choice by the way.
So the second thing becomes owning what's yours and what's not yours.
So today, what portion of the loans are his in his name?
About, um, if I remember correctly,
I do have a thing, but it's on my phone.
So I can't look at it. It's 60 to 68,000 would be
the realm that's in his name
so i'd be focused on those i'd be very focused on knocking those out
and i wouldn't be making payments on the other stuff
because you got to pay off the stuff that's
in your name because you guys are out here trying
to have a life have a family and we do have a
child so that makes it even more um you know we have
to pay for daycare we have to pay for a lot
of other things and it's just we're actually living with family
because we can't pay rent
right now wow because of his loans i'm guessing
it's different family actually it's the same so
it makes it harder because they are helping us
with living um i'm screaming for you there's some
toxic codependency here i mean isn't breakfast awkward yeah i mean it
is awkward so before um
we just moved back so that is why we were with them i
was without a job um we moved back to this
state i was without a job for a couple months
so that is also why when we were not in this state
We could afford to live and save a little, but that was it.
So you're both working currently.
We were still barely scraping by.
I'm about to start my new job.
It took a couple months.
What's your new household income?
So our new household income will probably be about $90,000 a year.
We were a little higher beforehand, but that's where we are now.
Why is it so low with all these student loans?
What did he pursue?
So we both have a master's degree.
However, his is in aesthetic management.
so finding a job kind of in that with only
a few years of experience has been a little hard
getting a higher paying job
but it took almost 200 grand to get through undergrad and the master's
for him yes okay there's a lot that has to be unraveled here
and sorry yes what i'm here here
here's here's the reality you guys got to get out
of that house with the quickness because as long
as you're living there you won't feel like you have
the cojones to have the conversations that
you need to have which is mom and dad or mom
and dad-in-law you guys made a choice and it
adversely affected you and it adversely affected us
and the truth is you were the adults when the
choice was made and we were the minors
and so because of that it really was your choice
and we cannot pay for that and that's a very hard conversation to have
when you're living in their
home because if you stop paying you're going
to overhear the phone call with the collections place
calling your parents calling his parents
so this is this is just a dark situation all around so the
key is you asked us how do you get out
of this well you're going to have to up the income and
then it's smallest to largest debts let's knock
this out using the debt snowball and i agree with
Jade i would focus on your debts for now the debts
that are in his name only to knock those out then
we can figure out the rest down the road
because that sounds like it's going to take a couple years
just to knock out his debts yes
so this might be a five to six to seven year journey at this rate
if you're lucky so that's where the income really needs to go up okay
so yeah i think and there's no
shade on that you guys you're not wrong you can't even afford
to live you certainly can't afford to
pay off debts that they signed for um as the adults
so this is tough gosh i can't say it enough
you know if you're a parent
and you're in the situation where you have kids going to college
you've got to be realistic
and you've got to be the one to draw the line in the sand and say we
we simply can't afford that and you can't either
because it would be debt so this is you guys's
chance to kind of change the story here
and just start on a new path and do it the right way and
not indict your children on down the line
and two thousand dollars a month and just minimum payments
that is soul crushing it's soul crushing
and i hate it for the parents too because you know they
had good intentions it's just that's not enough
the can down the road said future us will
figure this out let's just take the loans out
and here we are it doesn't work that way my friends
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