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>> So, well, long story short, uh my
husband is in the military, so he is on
a fixed income and I work two jobs. We
do live on base housing and so we live
rentree, no utilities or anything, but
he took a major pay cut because of that
cuz that's kind of a catch to it. Um,
and so we're struggling with this debt
that's been ongoing. And it feels like
it's just getting heavier and heavier.
My family believes I should stop working
two jobs and burning myself out and just
take the free college he offered me cuz
my husband's sweet and gave me his GI
bill so I can pursue my college and just
work one job and deal with the debt
later. I believe I should continue to
grind out with the two jobs and get our
debt gone because I know I can do it. I
just kind of don't know what to do. I
I'm not sure. I just wanted your guys'
opinion.
>> Wow. How much debt do you guys have?
>> So, I have roughly about 30,000
including my car and his is just two big
ones. So, 20,000 on a credit card and
20,000 on a car.
>> Okay. Does he need the car if he's on
base? Could that be sold?
>> It could be sold. I think he would be a
little bit sad to sell it and also it
was for a long-term kind of thing for
future reference and trips
>> that we hope to do later down the road.
>> He's committed to this car emotionally.
He put a ring on it and said I'm going
to marry this car.
>> We we wanted the truck for a reason, you
know, because we want to do vacations
and Moab and, you know, all these
things. But it's
>> Can I be honest, Phoebe?
>> If I told my wife, hey,
>> you can work three jobs if you want. I'm
keeping this car versus, hey, if we sell
this car, we could knock out like a
third of our debt today. That would
excite me and give you the freedom and
runway to go to college if you wanted
to.
>> And if you sold yours and just bought
like a Corolla that everyone would be
like, "Why are you driving that?" You'd
be like, "Cuz I'm free."
>> Yeah. Halfway.
>> We spit shake and say, "We're both
selling."
>> Do what?
>> My car is almost paid off. I got 10
grand.
>> Awesome. What's it worth?
Uh, probably like four. Last time I had
a Ford Fusion, it didn't value out that
well, actually.
>> So, it didn't value out and so you were
like, you know what? I'm going to buy
another one
>> cuz I really like the car. I see you're
getting out.
>> You're incredible. America, I'd like you
to meet itself. It's called America. I
like these things and they're fun, but
we can't afford them. You're like, I
know, but we want to go to the desert
and stuff and whatever. And that's why I
don't believe in quitting my two jobs.
>> What are you making total from these two
jobs?
>> No. Stop falling in love with
depreciating assets.
>> 50,000 in total.
>> Okay. You make What does he make?
>> He makes So he makes about 4,500 net
income um a month. So
>> And you make 50k net income per year.
>> Yeah.
>> So y'all make a hundred grand together.
You have no bills and y'all can't make
it.
The debt has kind of kind of put a
weight on us. Plus with the economy and
everything.
>> No, you make a hundred grand. Y'all have
no bills.
>> You guys are bringing in, this is my
estimation, over $8,600 a month net
take-home pay.
>> But that is with me working two jobs. If
I take away one job, then I only make
about 40,000.
>> But let's say you keep are you working
40 hours total?
>> I work with both jobs about 60 to 70
hours a week. Okay.
>> Or sorry, uh Oh, no. Yeah, that tracks.
>> Okay. And you have a total of, based on
my math, $70,000 in consumer debt?
>> Yes.
>> And how much are your actual expenses
that you guys have to pay every month,
including the minimum debt payments?
>> My expenses roughly come out to I want
to say about
three three grand or so. Um, and then
his um I think his comes out to he has
about 1,200 left over.
>> What do you mean?
>> I have more left. So I know that after
all his bills are done. He has 12. You
guys aren't married for the whole month.
>> You guys like Venmo each other.
>> You just said he's got his bills, he
pays. I got my bills, I pay. He has this
much left over. I have this much left
over.
>> Right.
>> Well, because I I I like to pay my
bills. I'm very OCD about how I pay my
bills and everything.
>> You're just not OCD about being married.
>> No, we're on our first year. We've been
together for six years, but like we're
on our first year of marriage. So, we're
we're working on the colliding of uh
income and everything, but I kind of
like my stuff.
>> Okay, here's the thing in a way.
>> Like, here's the truth. Okay, this is
just bottom line.
>> Nothing in your life is going to change,
and that's okay if that's what you want.
The only way you get away from this
debt, you go to school, you have peace
in your life, you build an amazing
marriage together,
>> is you have to begin doing things that
make you uncomfortable that you don't
want to do period.
And the irony is for me and George is we
can see every day of your life, you're
doing things you don't want to be doing,
>> right? But you can't see it
>> because I think I think the end goal is
going to be worth it. And I'm scared to
take that leap and go to college cuz
what if in a couple years I do all the
college and go to find a job and it ends
up not paying me much. I I guess I'm
overthinking and I just want certainty
and with paying off my debts, I know
that's something I can do. I can put a
track on that.
>> I I know. I know. But listen,
>> I'm falling into it. You're like, you're
sitting on a solution
and you won't use it.
>> Because here's the thing.
>> I'm just like my father, right?
>> It's cool, man. I accept that. He must
have been a really handsome, quasi
handsome smart guy.
>> But like, if y'all sold your cars and
you worked really hard for 6 months and
y'all did not go out to eat a single
time, you would be debtree.
>> I know.
>> You see what I'm saying? It's it's so I
can't tell you and I'm getting kind of
worked up and I apologize it's not at
you. It's just that the whole culture we
live in
>> cuz it's right there. It's literally
right here. And the number we just
George and I in a previous hour talked
to a woman on a fixed income who's 72
whose family has abandoned her and
you're sitting on six figures, but y'all
don't want to like not buy another
crappy car that just gets older and dies
in your driveway and take advantage of
this glitch in the matrix where you have
no bills. None. And you're talking about
you're talking about not even suffering,
just having kind of a bummer of a six
months where y'all just going to have to
make out more and go fishing more and go
walking around more. Like that's the
that's the penalty you will pay to not
owe anybody anything come Christmas in
January. You can quit everything and go
to college for free. And as a taxpayer,
think I am all about paying for um
veterans and their dependents to go to
college. I think that's an amazing use
of my tax dollars. I love that and I
want you to do that. But good God
almighty, dude. Go for go for go
debtree. Go with no
>> basically stop dling around.
>> Yes. I think this college dream is a
distraction from having a reality.
>> It's a Xanax.
>> It kind of hoping myself. Yes, I I'm I
got caught up in the whole wa we have to
go enjoy life so let's not worry too
much about the debt and it just kept
going in that cycle and
>> listen enjoy enjoy it like crazy
enjoy it like crazy just and start
enjoying it in 6 months when you don't
owe anybody anything and that my sister
is the true definition of freedom y'all
aren't free y'all are owned by car
companies by the base housing by all
these other entities just say as for me
and my house We choose freedom. It's the
4th of July. For God's sakes, choose
freedom.
>> It breaks my heart cuz we love military
folks. They're fighting for freedom and
yet they're living in a financial
bondage. That's not okay. We got to do
better.
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