Even WW3 Can't Stop What's Coming—the Cabal is COLLAPSING w/ Todd Callener

[Music] ladies and gentlemen welcome to man in America I'm your host Seth HH housee I'm very excited to share with you the interview that I I just did I'm recording this introduction afterwards with my good friend Todd cender we talked about a lot of the important issues that are happening right now but the big one being World War III and the incoming Trump Administration and what this means what's happening behind the scenes with Trump and Putin but we touched on some really important uh key elements to what's happening right now which I think you going be really interested in one is why you know Todd believes strongly that these efforts of starting World War III will fall short why the Deep state is freef falling and collapsing and what we're seeing happening around us is an indication of that but even he gets into some really really interesting things about the massive shift of our economic system in America and though Trump has talked about say getting rid of income tax why Todd believes a much larger shift is happening going from a debt economy where all of us are working to pay off all these debts and taxes and everything into what he calls an equity economy where everyone's working to earn and working to gain and working to own in this nation and why fundamentally we both believe that there is a very beautiful future ahead of us and it's not just hopium we talk about some of the the dark things we talk about some of the concerns with Elon Musk technology you know lots of stuff like that but amidst that we're still able to see a path forward into what some may call a golden age so folks please enjoy the show with my good friend Todd calender Mr Todd calendar it is always not just an honor but just so much fun and joy to have you on the show even though we talk about some pretty serious things it just I I I feel like it's just sitting down with coffee uh for coffee with a good friend so thanks for being here yay I brought my coffee mug man I I love it and you know the big distinction here Seth is you look younger and Lumberjack like at least I've got the warmth we're doing good man I always enjoy my time with you too man and you know the cool part is I get a lot of feedback from people saying that they feel better after you and I chat and we clue them into our chats you know the thing is with the kind of topics that we're discussing if we can talk about these types of issues and people can still feel better at the end we're winning right because it's not about avoiding the the difficult stuff it's about looking the difficult things staring it in the face and still saying there's hope we're going to win we're going to get through this so anyway yeah well right now obviously I'd say the the thing that's staring at us all is World War III um and I think that you know you uh as of today we see you know the US embassies closing down in Kia uh there's you know warns of massive strikes we had basically Biden or you know not Everyone likes to say oh look it's Biden's fault he's just a puppet so the controllers of Biden have authorized use of you know us missiles in Russia which we know are not just them too missiles that we lent them actually it was you know they require our own military to work them together with Ukraine and so we've you basically in essence the United States has now fired missiles into Russia um but you know Todd I know you're following this stuff and tracking it what's your assessment where are you at with all this there's there's three things to to keep in mind number one we've been in World War III for four years yeah good you said it exactly correctly that Biden is nothing but a tool he's a puppet um and he has been for the last four years the war is on Humanity this is just another means of executing the war that's it there's nothing new here we've been in war for this whole time and we're still here that is the beautiful part about this so that's that's item number one um item number two you and I have been talking about this for three years um in terms of the bad guys doing anything they can to try and stop a global conflict because their mission is to kill seven billion people no small task it will go a lot faster with nuclear weapons they were trying to Shell chern Noy they picked fights with um the the Persians they've done everything they can the owners have done everything they can to spark some kind of a global conflict and yet peace maintains right it's really quite remarkable um and then I guess the the third thing that that comes out of it is is that um well number one you you actually look younger and better so you're doing good um so the stress is working for us now what I want to say is that we have a new horizon here so if you look at the timing differential for the last three years we've been in this war and worried about a nuclear conflict the The Horizon is right there and the sun is coming up I think comhe heads will prevail yet comhe heads being Mr Putin Mr Trump Mr G um but let us not forget that the permanent bureaucracy is in all of those governments and the permanent bureaucracy is what controls those countries the top the leader controls policy but to eff effectuate that policy is layers and layers down and the top of those layers is the permanent bureaucracy they are the ones who are also bought and paid for have been for their entire careers by the owners so the question always goes back to what is the political will of the people and I note that Mr Trump is filling his cabinet full of people that have a very broad reach they may not be the best person for the job but they sure have a lot of people following them and watching what they're doing that's his means and methodology and it's not just inside the United States he's trying to get the whole world to understand let's calm this thing down we don't have to go there he said his National policy when he was in office I want a strong India strong China strong Russia we're going to compete instead of kill each other that is what scares the holy hell out of the the owners because they Grant billions of dollars to Ukraine here it is here's your money and then that those people turn around and buy weapons from Ron and other such defense contractors it it believe it or not it's what the oecd in the United Nations call circular economics and sometimes you get a a charity involved in there like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation that act as a really good buffer so people can't see where the money's coming from FTX here in the Bahamas is a different form of money laundering it's effectively legalized money laundering because these gangsters are all trading around to each other and then they catch a little bit along the way for their own pocket it's a great giant criminal Enterprise and it's about to freaking stop that's what's freaking out we are dismantling their Criminal Enterprise and that is blowing their minds because they've been caught now we're in a Do or Die situation it's them or us are we gonna hang them or are they gonna kill us that's the the quoti in front of us and so you see this and I certainly see it this way I'm just want to you know reframe it and simplify my my perspective so basically you see it as the momentum that is coming off of the election and Trump's appointment and uh you know Kennedy you know you know heading up you know HHS all the things that Wick these are these are significant significant things not to mention not to mention so you have these things happening at the bureaucratic level the political level but you also have a massive shift happening at the level of the minds and hearts of the people where the yes especially trust in mainstream media is collapsing the The Narrative that's been pushed about you know transgenderism and all these all what what I believe to be very satanic rooted principles of destroying God's creation and all that that people are rejecting it right like they're now tasting the poison in the soup they didn't taste it say five or 10 years ago and they kept eating it but now it's like wait this is this is this is wrong and they're spitting it out so right do you believe that we're at a shift right now where the evil is now kind of really taking is is been weakened so much and the righteous and upright forces are now really taking a stronghold o over the world and and that World War III and this this push to try to get us into World War II is some sort of it it's the rattlesnake backed into a corner that's even biting its own right yeah yeah you've got it exactly right and so let us let us look at the little movements on the map in in the means of this thing so everybody's preparing for nuclear war the Western Nations Germany included oh we're now at War they've effectively declared it right with these actions pursuant to international law rights of Nations to defend themselves preemptive strikes and all of those kinds of things that have been laid out in international law for the last 50 years um all of the predal predicate pieces are in place right it's all this is already happened this what I'm trying to say we've already been in World War I but now to expand that war this is their Hail marry moment and I think that it is going to fail why do I say that so for example um other aggressions already happened with Russia um Ukraine is one of them right the the the Ukraine was a nogo for Russia and that's what gave birth to the Minsk cours so and and Russia has been observing the Minsk Accords they have um very carefully observed them so they're not they're not giving an excuse to the other side to say oh this is what you did we're going to take you out for that from a per from commercial and an international law point of view is really what I'm trying to say um however however what do the Russians do in response to this right the the missiles are provided they launch one over there Russia goes and cuts cables Telecom cables Under the Sea why would they do that well how many systems in Europe are riant upon those cables that information and what defenses are hooked into those is NATO hooked into those cables in all likely Hood did did Russia just preemptively cut off their comms so that the prosecution of such a war really couldn't happen or if it could happen it wouldn't happen correctly or properly or would give Russia the advantage and I think the answer to that question is yes so rather than simply responding with bombs and tactical nukes and things of that nature um they're very carefully as as Russians do they play chess and they're moving pieces around to preempt this in a nonviolent way and think that this all was born uh and I talked to General valer about it funny enough because he's the guy that put the meeting together between President Trump president uh pu and SOI the soccer ball got passed and I think that was the defining moment in human history to be frank with you that the leaders came together and they put down their guns okay this is not the way we're going to change the world we're going to do this differently and then you see the national security policy of President Trump saying no more war we're going to we're going to compete commercially and I think that Al go Seth towards um you know the bricks want to have their own currency go for it as long as we have options as long as humans consumers have options how we want to pay for things um where we want to live how we want to live that's Freedom so while CLA Schwab Ed all were trying to restrict those digital ID locked in your 15minute city they were eliminating options and Mr Trump is saying no have your options that's great well you do you we'll do us we'll compete it'll be great everybody wins I love it which it's in a lot of ways it's almost as if it's a on a global scale just you know true free market economy right it's you know you think you have the best pies and I have the best pies so instead of me you know storming your pie shop and seizing your pies and taking control and putting price controls on them we say okay well you make your pies I'll make my pies and and let the best pie win right so there's a name for that guess there a way of simplifying it you know as we're heading into Thanksgiving are on my mind so what you saying rightfully sorry what were you saying you were making an important point there no I I just wanted to to summarize what you said is exactly right there's a name for this in economics it's called economies of scale and it works beautifully and this is one of the problems I always had with the European Union they eliminated economies of scale Italy had the L and they were really good at making Ferraris and all kinds of stuff Wine and Food or whatever um other nations had their own niches exactly as you described in their own currencies and there were arbitrages inside there there were savings on currencies savings on um the economy built for that particular purpose pies for example um all of those kinds of things come into market economics which of course is the polar opposite of what it is the UN and the OCD want called circular economics the the money flows up here and you don't get any right you're just the SL slave class so this is a polar change of of that kind of thinking and I'm watching it unfold and it is a beautiful thing and I think also let us not forget God's Divine hand in all of this the the this is a second chance for Humanity we still stand on the edge the the precipice of disaster 80% or so of Americans at least saw the the truth for what it is we got another 20% to pull across the line um and they're and they're going to come but it it takes this kind of an event takes shock repetition and believe it or not humor to get through that skull and so you think that b you you mentioned the soccer ball The Exchange and talking to General Valley so you think that that basically that right now we have Trump with his incoming uh you know cabinet picks and his 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owners and the owners of those who create money out of thin air and own those people and own those functions and own those governments at the end of the day it is the owner class that sought the destruction of humanity either by genetic transformation or by elimination they don't care either either way as long as all of God's creations are gone that's their mission and so the the answer to your question in short is yes you got it exactly right and so you're kind of Playing devil's advocate and I don't like referring myself as the devil playing The Advocate but you you know what I'm saying right um yeah so because and also so there's a lot of people that especially coming after off of the election are have this renewed hope and they're watching they're looking at you know Elon and they're looking at uh FK Jr and and you look at the cabinet picks and what they're what they're seeing is that there's this there's this massive Revival of just hope and positivity and you have you know Trump coming out talking about you know he released a new Bible with Lee Greenwood he's talking about the importance of bringing God back into the country so there's you've got Tom Tom hman talking about his massive deportation operations so there's all these really positive things happening but I've also noticed that there's a large segment of people that you know you know it's easy to say oh they're the blackpilled ones right and and you know but there's they're valid points right and and I like looking at all things like I don't want to have hope for the future because I'm ignoring the negative signs you to me that's that's not good and I do think there's some people that they just want to take they want to sit down strap up and shoot up that hopium straight into their veins and think that you know what it's all going to be fixed now and whatever but there are some you know signs that potentially concern me you know even even looking at Elon Musk right and his his technology the fact that you he's heavily invested into mRNA you know vaccine production right one of his companies that he's heavily involved with or you Le financially not as he's not running it um you look at the the the technology I see that Elon is building it's like it could be used for good but also could be used for very evil right you know with his low orbit satellite infrastructure it's like forget about the concerns of 5G if they've got satellites everywhere that could be monitoring and tracking and tracing and they've talked about bringing in uh you know more biometric security at the borders for immigrants which like okay great that's good for keeping illegals out of the country but is that also going to be used on the Americans right is is the you know the crisis of the illegals coming across the border is it a patriot act two you know Patriot Act 2.0 where we now need this this extra level of biometric security to make sure that our borders are safe right so there's a lot of things like this that you look at it's like yeah that there is some cause for concern and then I you know I I want to get into Israel and and the you know the very very very pro-israel stance of almost everyone that Trump has brought into his cabinet which we we kind of get to that next but in terms of just the those other kind of warning signs that you might see that some people are saying look uh you know Trump coming in could be uh really really good but it's also could be laying the infrastructure for a very very dark um you know kind of way of living how do you respond to that because I want to be able to look at that stuff in the face and if and if if we can can still find Hope and positivity I want to find it amidst that so how do you what's your what's your perspective though well I think you effectively already said it that these Technologies let's just say technology generally is not by itself evil it's the use of the technology that can be used for evil or not the same um kind of thought process goes to Israel we look at Israel as this great giant entity a very powerful one um but we're not looking at the components of it right that that's that's my point is that um there are secular Jews in Israel there are Christians and Jews Christians in Israel there are Arabs in in Israel but yet we lump them all together and call them Israel there's a diversity of thought and also where that Nation will go and the My Hope and belief is no different than um than I would hope and believe for every other country and that is that sovereignty Reigns a nation is defined by the people who occupy it it is up to them to decide whether they're going to use technology for good or for not and I think that if you look at it from a pure economic point of view if they're dumping all their money into defense stuff and nobody wants to fight with them then it was wasted money if they dump all their money into creativity and figuring out how to improve the the value and the quality of life of their constituents um then that's a commercial application that's a better expenditure of money I think what I'm trying to express to you is that there's a change in the way we think so literally for time memorial for the last 2,000 years we've thought about defense we thought about well the Invaders are coming we' better put up walls and have Munitions but when you come to understand the those acquisition of resources by force was always done with a predicate poking the bear as you described it we don't have to do that you know I'll give you an example you you're a student of China when Mongolia invaded China what did China do they said bring them in let them come we will turn them into Chinese and that's the philosophy that I think we're moving back towards rather than the walls and the Munitions and whatnot and I think that's the I think that's the right Vision it's a vision of peace and how it is you implement any tool your shovel could be a weapon but do you use it as a weapon no that that that's what I'm trying to impart I mean you guns are a prime example right people say guns exactly no I mean yeah like if if I'm you know holding up a liquor store with a gun or you know you robbing a home or you know murdering yes it's evil but if I'm a husband and a an intruder comes into my home and I use my gun to make sure my family is kept safe that gun is a tool of of good and you mentioned you mention you mentioned one uh thing that I really want to hone in on here that I'm actually I think I'm going to do an entire show just on this one topic I think it's very important is you mentioned that just the it's a collective of the people that that really matter and I think that if you look at that on the level of just the governance of the people um you know right now I've been been reading through there's a book called The Crowd by uh Gustav labal I'm not sure if you've read it or not but there was a book written in the late 1800s about the psychology of crowds and how important the crowd is for the for the elites or for the rulers and how the when there's a shift in the thinking of the masses that's what actually brings about Mass social change and and they understand that which is why I believe they've put so much effort into building the brainwashing and propaganda machines because they can't rule US unless they rule our minds and so what we see right now is that you it's like Neo you know everyone's kind of pulling that that plug out of the back of their head and saying I'm not going to fall for it anymore and so but that's just looking at things more in the material realm but I also believe that when I look at when I look at what Trump is doing and what Elon is doing and the people that he's you know surrounding himself with you could look at it and you could see this could be a very good thing or it could be a very bad thing right even looking at technology hypothetically you know with with starlink with X is the everything app reminds me a lot of how WeChat is the same thing over in China yet WeChat is a tool of to Talent arianism WeChat is what you know ties in their social credit score and what prevents them from buying a ticket to you know on a on a train because they were criticizing you know XI jingping whatever that is but fundamentally you know as you and I talk about I do look at this as a battle of Good and Evil and I I I absolutely believe the outcome of our country is not dependent on the leaders or the the larger Geographic you know geopolitical issues I really believe the the destiny of our country is tied to the hearts and minds of the American people which is why I believe that the the cultural Marxism and and the the this satanic and luciferian agenda has been pushed so hard because they know that to destroy America they first have to destroy the hearts of the American people and turn us into evil beings but what I'm seeing is that a lot of what Trump represents what he's talking about and not just him but just the people you and the whole country represents this massive shift towards virtue and morality and and you know cherishing the nuclear family and and loving your neighbor and so that's ultimately what does give me hope is because even if they they you know say Elon and Trump they want to come in and you say there's some people that say Trump is the Antichrist right let's just say hypothetically even if they had these evil intentions well if the American people collectively have become virt virtuous again and good-hearted and and there's there's a massive Resurgence and faith in God then no ruler will be able to enslave that populace because the hearts that's beautiful are there so I want to see what is your take on that I think you said it really beautifully I think you've got that exactly right I've said it in different ways previously where you cannot govern without the consent of the government you this precisely what you're saying and you're absolutely right they spent money on this apparatus called Hollywood and professional reps and whatever else exactly as you describe it's also for that very same reason I haven't read that book but I know of other studies that support what it is you're saying it's also why we focused our efforts on the military first because you cannot enforce a law without the enforcers and so we we knew that the attack was going to use the the the military right to to come against our own and that and that's why operation warp Sheed was a military operation it was Global and all that stuff so what we effectively did was try to change CH the hearts and the minds of the people in uniform hey these shots are dangerous don't give them to other people don't take them yourself don't give them to other people for the exact same reason you just described is that a population is needed to enforce the will of the political leaders and unless they get the Buy in it ain't going to happen and you said it earlier now it I am shocked and relieved to be frank with you when you see this wokeness is now already out of fashion it's amazing we've been two weeks into this change of of direction for our nation and already you see people who were previously woke saying my that was stupid it's just like yeah it was but but this is exactly to your point think about how malleable our minds have been that we've been shaped like this brainwashed like this for so long and I think here it is 2,000 years later and we have a new dawn well and I'll pull up something then this is what there actually there's a lot of things that give me hope but this is one of the big ones is you look at this quote right here from linon he says give me four years to teach the children the seed I have sown will never be uprooted and this this really I think highlights why their agenda in the schools has been so important and why if you trace it back you the founding of the Department of Education they're mostly marxists and Communists that have been running reason they've wanted to do this but what's amazing is this right here how you look at the election you look at the turnout in the recent election there was a massive shift in gen Z right the youngest voting class there was a massive Shi I think it was a 13-point shift from 2020 uh from going left to the right and so that right there like this is what again this is this I guess it's a it's this episode is kind of like real hopium right it's not the the fake hopium but that that really gives me hope because amidst this massive indoctrination machine that they've been using to turn our children against our country against their parents into little marxists and red guards that something about that is failing and you're seeing it's now becoming cool to be conservative and that again there's this massive shift in in j z saying like I want to go vote for Trump like I'm going to wear a Maga hat to school and that to me that's one of the things that think is really important to highlight it it is and um you know it's a function of time truth cannot be contained it eventually comes out so you had Ma's red book right and and people dove in they killed you know Millions countless millions of people who didn't go along with that political ideology that was the plan for America as well by the way same thing happened in Russia the Soviets had their communist experiment it doesn't work um and and I could go on and on in terms of how many times that this has happened it it's a thought Revolution I think is what it is that you're saying and I would also um suggest to you if you look into the history of the United Nations education component um that the predated the American one who wrote the books who controlled the curriculum Rockefellers in all cases and it was Global who own the publishing companies for the textbooks Rockefellers um and and that is the owner class is what I'm trying to say to you and they're missing do you think Mr Trump can get up there and say I'm going to eliminate you know Department of Education without getting you know killed he's up there and he's doing that and his surrogates are doing that as well I Lov seeing him sit down with this I think it was an NBC reporter she said are you really going to get rid of hold Department she's like yeah we are so you know that those guys up there speaking the truth not hiding their intentions wearing it on their sleeve that is how you know there's a change a cultural change just what you said General General Generation Z and otherwise I see that myself I've got a couple in my house and their thinking is um is different because they're seeing the truth for the first time maybe maybe we're all seeing the truth for the first time yeah that's a that's a good point but I do think there's something that that we have to caution ourselves against because if if if we've established this premise of this discussion that it's the the morality of the hearts and minds of the people that that determines the fate of the nation there's we also we have to be very Vigilant right because if we if people start deifying Trump and deifying RFK and thinking that that Trump can save the nation I think that's very dangerous because to me that represents you know one of the you know thou should not have you know worship false Idols right it's one of the most you know fundamental tenants right um so that's one thing which I think we have to be very careful of but the other thing is I think that there's a lot of pent up aggression within the within the right towards the left right because they've been attacked they've been demonized you know they've been uh you know kind of mocked for you know being the unvaxxed and you conspiracy theorist so that's the other thing that I just that we have to caution ourselves again because you mentioned before okay 8020 we got to pull the 20% over and I I just hope that that I hope that we don't as a nation uh become so you know prideful that we were right and you were wrong and and even heard people saying that hey you know all the Democrats we should you know pull them out of the country we should get rid of them and it's like well yeah I I think that we have to have compassion obviously we need to have Justice there's people that willfully harmed people and you know people that willfully pushed the vaccines led to that but I think that we have to also have compassion for our fellow Americans and ultimately these are these are God's children also they're just they they've been deceived by Satan and we have to help pull them out of that well let me let me clarify what it was I was talking about in terms of the 20% coming over what what does that mean what what I mean by that is pulling them over to seeing the truth and requiring the truth speaking the truth because when we get there we'll figure it out it kind of goes back to your your whole issue of guns as a tool um it's the very best tool the world has ever seen why because our constitution has survived our nation has survived simply because that threat existed those very same people you describe as as wanting revenge or whatever else I don't think that's real I think that those are antagonists that are amongst us again trying to get a result trying to get a fight I think the the period in front of us is an opportunity for us to all put down our guns all seek the truth all find that at the end of the day when baby come out of Mama they want love they're not they're not born to be aggressive and go fighting when you see little kids on the playground they run up to each other they don't know their names they don't know what color they don't care it's another person to go and love and enjoy and if we move towards that which is always founded in truth morality is founded in truth if we get to that stage then I think it's self-governing but um the the antagonist will continue so in terms of cleaning this up set part of that truth is that we must hold these people accountable for if we do not it shall happen again and um one thing I would say to you also as it related to your your statement as it relates to Mr Trump the you're so right he in a few short weeks will be the single most powerful man in the world um and I I pray for him I really do because that's a tremendous burden to maintain that Humanity part you know the what's the old phrase saying is that you know power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and and as humans were a little bit frail and and he is a human so it in all times in all times we have to remember we are mortal we are God's creations we're not Gods we're his creations and as long as we have that higher power giving us natural law God's law and we follow it as in Scot in our constitution brilliant brilliant document um then we're going to be okay that's a guide no different than I look at the Bible as a lifeguide I find answers to questions that I didn't know that people have been experiencing for thousands of years they've gone through that right they've already gone through that problem and here's how here's what we've had great it's the truth and that that's our guiding principle I think that we stick to that and the rest sorts itself out and so looking at because I know that you're you've done a lot of you know prosecution a lot of legal stuff as it relates to the big big blobs right of the doj and you know most people it's like oh you know you know some someone's a war hero if they've litigated against you know a Fortune 500 company right now let alone someone who's litigated against the the doj or the the military-industrial complex in many ways and so yeah you looking at exactly right looking at um kind of more kind of forward-looking with RFK Jr at the head of the HHS right which is now you overseas the FDA the CDC the NIH um and and with the the calls for more transparency and him digging up this information do you think that do you think that we will actually see real Justice happen I mean do you think that um even Trump and this is what still I think we we have to be we have to we can never stop holding him accountable to us as the people and that's important that's right um even he he put another you know post out on Truth social talking about operation warp speed and and it's like oh gosh he's still talking about these things but maybe I'm not sure what the what the know the plan is for that but do you think that we will actually see real Justice and I'm not s talking about hey wow we won because Froot Loops no longer has this red dye in it that causes cancer I'm talking about you know repealing the act of 1986 you know digging into Rico charges against you know the pharmaceutical industrial comp Le dismantling the system that's purposefully poisoning which in a lot of ways goes back to Rockefeller right you if you look origins of of the modern medical system so earlier exactly so do you believe that we will actually see this system dismantled piece by piece yes yes and no different than the means by which we survive today that will happen because people will demand it people will demand it because they see the truth and you know in in the early biblical days people were Outcast right they were cast into the desert um if you couldn't get along in society it wasn't a function of jail go you think you can do this go survive on your own and and I think that's really what happens here is that one way or another this is going to happen there's no stopping this the genie is out of the bottle I am fairly well sure in a short period of time Mr fouchy is not going to welcome anywhere right he will not be able to buy or sell with or without the mark of the beast because he's going to be cut off nobody is going to deal with so whether he's prosecuted or not he's being cast out into the desert that that's unavoidable all of them will be and the the real process of justice is to identify those people and the one hesitation I have in respect of this um is that the the amount of people that were involved in the attack on human scientists going back 50 years lawyers dear God a lot of them that made all of these things possible um they also must be held accountable in some fashion and here in lies the tricky part and this is why in the law we look to somebody's men's re what was their intent did they know were they negligent was it intentional and and that analysis has to be really done on an individual basis and and so it could take a very long time for the Reckoning but I saw this in the offshore world over the last 20 years where policy changed um the United States and the global leaders said no more you know hiding your money abroad and people in America don't know this but 20 years ago that was effectively outlawed here anyway there's no hiding money outside the United States the biggest place to hide your money is inside the United States it may sound strange but it is nonetheless true um and what we saw was all of the banks all of financial institutions fell in line because they didn't want to be on the receip leing into the Wrath of the tax authorities and so then there there was a culture shift and it happened so fast it really only took two three years where those who were in The Business of banking those of who were in The Business of of these kinds of things um changed their Outlook and I heard you know old Swiss Bankers in their 70s saying yeah gone of those days you tax compliance that's our new mantra and they build right in so I I think you're you're going to that same cultural shift where perhaps there are levels of um of a reckoning you know that some people will have to self-disclose that's what we saw millions and millions of people self-disclose they pity please irest there or something called the the voluntary disclosure program millions of Americans went through that so there's this voluntary compliance thing too and if we if we have a a big carrot and a little bit of stick you know on the donkey we're we're going to get there I I really really am extraordinarily it's beyond hopeful uh I'm optimistic I really truly am that this is a change for Humanity for the next thousand years I want I'm glad you mentioned taxes because I I know that you know though a lot of people know of you as you an attorney that I know you're also heavily involved in in finance and and understanding taxes and and everything and you're obviously you're in the you know the Caribbean which is a very you know in a lot of ways it is a Haven for people to you it's an international fincial Center yes is where I live so there's been a lot of discussion about the ending of federal income tax among many other things you know replace that with tariffs and so looking at again these massive agencies this bureaucracy I'd say the IRS is is up there at the very top or near the very top of of a of a of a an organ of the deep state that is used to control and to persecute the American people so do you do you think that and this is not even getting into the Federal Reserve which is that's a the kind of the next step of this right is looking at the the the role of the Federal Reserve and the the Usery and the debt enslavement that we've experienced as a country so but looking at just the IRS if let's just say that within the first six months uh Trump passes something that abolishes federal income tax I I would imagine that a lot of the justification for this massive IRS and a lot of the funding comes from federal income tax so what what do what would you see like if if the Trump continues the direction that it seems like he's heading uh towards you know dismantling these systems what do you see happening to the IRS what do you see happening to the tax burden that hardworking Americans are struggling with as they're you know barely able to heat their homes how do you see that playing out so folks this year I've given you so many reason to try balance of nature but I've got one now you cannot ignore let's 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foremost I live in a country that has no income tax I mean for 25 years and in this country I've never paid income tax it's all based on import duties which are effectively similar to tariffs um it's just a different way of going about it and what you have is a big apparatus for elction up until 2016 that was you know Customs deployed so goods and services coming in and out would be taxed in their own way in 2016 the oecd forced this country to adopt something called the value added tax Americans haven't seen this but every time local hands touch something another 10% gets applied so it's a cascading tax the the goods that come here attract that tax the cost of getting them here attracts that tax handling them through the port attracts that tax and it goes over and over and over why am I telling you that because the B National budget of this country was some $550 million to run all services governmental services in the first year of that tax they raised $1.6 billion three times the amount of money they needed to operate the country instead of paying down the national debt they paid all that away to the bank for international settlements and borrowed another 550 $50 million what I'm trying to express to you is the debt model economy is a fraud the taxes that you pay don't go to government services they never have gone to government services they only go to pay interest on the debt so when you look at the true cost of government services they are so extraordinarily inflated you can't even comprehend it the cost of running government particularly when you localize that cost in reality your property taxes for example paying for school it's not just paying for school it's paying for your EMS Services Emergency Services people um fire trucks and cops and things that nature taxes in the use of the roads those are what they call ABC accounting activity based costs when you redo an Economy based on an activity based cost it looks a lot like um Libya before they got rid of Gaddafi and the country was selling oil and making a ton of money and everybody had a house Gaddafi's mom was the last person to get a house everybody had a free education through University everybody had a head start so of course he couldn't be allowed to survive and and the worst thing he did was he made his own money gold right gold North African currency and with a with a summary judgment he was executed his nation was taken over and bombed into Oblivion because they couldn't have a shining example of what an equity model economy looks like but m Mr Trump is talking about doing is ditching the debt model economy and what the other nations are doing and what his National Security polici is based on is a switch from a debt model economy into an equ equity model economy so we have to look back at taxes for what it is they are they were designed to suck every last scent out of your pocket keep you poor so you couldn't think you couldn't plan you couldn't grab resources you couldn't do anything cuz you owed everybody money it was intentional right to make you a surf it was just another way about going to to to accomplish the the goal of the Enterprise the monarchies never gave up control what they did is they just fooled everybody into thinking they were free I learned this thing in pul I was I was um going skydiving with a Russian um spetnaz group who refused to go back to Russia and they were singing in Russian on the way up about Freedom they like wait a minute you're Russian you you're Soviet paratroopers you think you're free and they did they thought they were free I'm like oh how does that one work because that was the The Way by which they got the maximum amount the most economic means of our sweat and labor and they collected it all through taxes we thought we were free we were never free we were debt slaves the entire time that's going to change that must change so what does that change look like I mean do you think it would be completely abolishing the IRS or sorry irx the IRS or do you think it like so you think that that that we're when you when you mentioned I was right here going from a debt model economy to an equitable Equitable model economy Equity Equity as in owning stocks bonds Equity I see okay not Equitable those are two different things okay Equitable is you got more than I got so you gotta give me some of that no true okay when you buy stocks you are buying equity in that company when you're buying bonds you're buying debt in that company I'm talking about owning right the the citizens of the country have an ownership interest that's why our founding fathers required private property when the settlers first arrived in Jamestown they tried a communist model economy and everybody starved half the people didn't survive it they changed it around the next winter and everybody had their plot of land we now have a nation that's that's the point you will work hardest on what you own so get out of the way because I'll tell you what you want to see a screaming economy that is what Mr Trump appears to be doing and yeah you get rid of the IRS it's kind of like viac said are you g to get rid of whole departments yeah he's going to this is his where he's going and that's what's going to happen and while there will be other jobs you will shift those people into Private Industry you'll shift them into customs and all the other kinds of things but I can tell you one thing universally the guns are going away the guns of are federal agencies they have been militarized they all have their own SWAT teams you have billions of rounds of hollow point ammunition the best weapons money can buy that will change and I can tell you this the guns are the best tool ever we will never give up our guns for the very same reason that you said if Mr Trump can't control that power in himself I think he can um we will always reserve the right to change our minds gosh so this could this could really transform things because I was something I saw it came across recently so I've done a fair bit of international travel you know and you know if say I've gone over to Hong Kong or I've been to China uh you know Indonesia different places and Singapore it's always amazing that you go you go to these other places and you'll see gosh like these are like very Advanced countries they've got high-speed rails Across the Nation like you know and in Taiwan it's like okay you want to go to taipe to kending you know go to the beaches in the South yeah highs speeed rail get you there right you're going 200 miles an hour you look at you come you look at America you this old outdated Amtrak train that keeps falling off the rails and killing people and and so so so when Trump talks about these Freedom cities he's building he talks about the free education right giving everyone free you know hey you want to get a bachelor's degree in a pro Amer you know like so these are so he's painting a picture for a very very different way of life it's not just about getting rid of the deep State it's about setting up the country for massive success it's freeing Humanity from the bonds of slavery that's what he's talking about and to your point I talked to a tech guy yesterday and he said I was in South Korea in the 90s and people were wearing effectively the the the watches you know like the iPhone kind of watch whatever those things are Apple watch and they were talking to each other on video coms back in the 90s when did that appear in in the United States 200 what I mean they were 20 years in advance to your point and the guy said well I went to buy one and the sellers said well go ahead but you you can't use this in the United States why well your technology isn't here to do it exactly your point so when when you liberate the soul you liberate the mind too all of that all of that shares that fundamental the foundation of Truth we have to we've got to understand and we got to digest and adopt the fact that most everything we think we know is wrong talk about going to school and by the way the other thing that I really really admire in terms of the policy Mr Trump is laying forth it's not just about college right college is just a brainwashing exercise for the most part what really matters is skill sets knowledge is what we're after and when you free people up to acquire that knowledge in different you know ways vocational training is brilliant we need plumbers electricians Pilots you know butchers we need them garbage men can be the best at what it is they do right free them up let them think let them figure it out we'll have new ways it's that Innovation it's freeing the mind will drive a stellar economy and I think it's going to be a global economy the only the only participants who will fail are those that stick in the old way persecuted your citizens enslaving them sucking every last Blood drop out of them right that that why because when there's competition people could leave think how many people did people left all their crappy countries they came to the United States looking for free money people can move and vote with their feet and will competition is the key such a good point it's also why I I I really believe that I think that we will see the CCP collapse probably under the next four years yes just because the greatest threat to the CCP is a nation like America that is that their citizens can can see and say gosh why is life so beautiful and so free over there Tru you look exactly so you look at the CCP and their their their uh you know Iron their their the great firewall everything that they've done to restrict the social credit score the the persecution of you know whether it's the weager Muslims the Fallen gong the house Christians and you people you know people are like oh you know gosh Christians are being targeted in America or whatever I agree they are but look at what's happening over over in China under the CCP so I would love to see that because I'd love to see you know there's lot different movements in China like the new Federation of China I think is one of the terms for it but there's a massive Resurgence so I'd love to see that I'd love to see a strong free competitive China That's competing in the right ways with America so Todd um I know that you know we can keep going but I feel this is such a good positive note to end on but the final step in this conversation is for you to tell us why clout Hub is so amazing because it is something you're doing to support free speech and use your you know use your skills and your talents and everything so you know why should someone go to clout hub.com Todd brother you are so very kind thank you for that so we Acquired and built and rebuilt Cloud Hub that's the meets page which is designed for video conferencing and we Visa the very conversation we just had my philosophy is and has been you got to Free People up I don't I don't want your information we don't keep it we don't store it we don't want it I don't even care who you are I want to give you the tools so that you can be free and that's what cloud Hub is it's the it's the uncensored platform it's Anonymous like cash you use it to communicate your ideas gather together in groups multilingual um so there's lots of different modules that try we've tried to suit everybody's needs and tastes and the one you got up there is really about video conferencing um I I think about all these people that use zoom that don't understand that the entire contents of your conversation are owned by the PRC the People's Republic of China because their servers are in their Intel headquarters they're collecting all your data they're analyzing it um and you're going to be punished for for using it so all you lawyers using Zoom you're Mal practicing all you doctors are violating your Hippa oats by using Zoom come to Cloud Hub we don't keep it we don't want it it's private it's uh encrypted and it's about you and your freedom not about us well there we go well Todd thank you look somehow we talked about World War III we talked about all these things but and I also I think we looked at we looked at the potential pitfalls and we talked about the the lessons that we need to learn going forward and why morality is important why we can't you we can't idolize anybody we can't worship any Idols whether it's Trump or Elon Musk or you know Brett Favre or whoever it is right you know there's there's there's you know there's one source for us to focus on right and so yeah it's just been uh great speaking with you I look forward to next time and thank you again for giving us your time today oh Seth it really is an honor and I can't thank you enough for giving me the opportunity the platform to share these thoughts and you know what it's by virtue of this of sharing our thoughts that we've changed the the minds of a lot of people it's healthy it's wonderful I hope everybody will join in and have similar conversations so God bless you for what you do 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