Is the Sudden AI Panic a Psyop? The Answer Is DISTURBING

There's something really strange happening in the AI world right now. The men building the most powerful AIs in the world are calling for a slowdown. It sounds reasonable, right? But look at what they're actually asking for. It's not really a pause. It's new federal laws, mandatory government testing, and the power to block systems that Washington decides are unsafe. One of them warned that within six to 12 months, these programs could literally take down the entire internet. Others are saying this is going to shut out any smaller competition and concentrate AI power in just a few hands. But that's just the beginning. What if there's something else that's being set up here? What if the fear narrative around AI isn't about forcing new regulation or getting rid of competition? What if it's setting the stage for a financial reset they can blame on an AI banking attack? And what if that reset has one major goal, which is forcing the population into some form of a central bank digital currency? My guest today, Micah Haynes, has spent the better part of a decade studying what happens when a financial system comes apart and figuring out what it takes to prepare for it. So if you've got money sitting in a bank, retirement account, or brokerage account that you've trusted for decades, this conversation is really for you. Micah connects the dots between what's happening with AI, the debt spiral nobody's talking about in Washington, and what it actually takes to move yourself into a place of safety. Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. Before jumping into this interview, please make sure you hit that like button. Please share the show if you like it, and make sure you subscribe to the channel. It really helps us to reach more people. All right, let's go and jump into my conversation now with my good friend, Micah Haynes. Micah, man, it's good to have you back on. I always enjoy our discussions, and I'm looking forward to this one. Even though it's a little bit more dark and dystopian, there's always kind of a light in the darkness, but I'm looking forward to it. So thanks for being here, man. Micah Haynes Thanks. Yeah, me too. Yeah, with fourth turnings, they can be pretty scary. They end with a pretty big disaster of some sort. But the first turning of a new saeculum, kind of where we are going, is an extremely prosperous time for everybody. We just kind of have to go through the trenches and the tough parts first. So that's obviously dead ahead with what's going on. It really is. So the main thing I want to focus on is the combination of the AI and the AI threats and the global financial system. And you and I have talked a lot about global financial system, as I have in my show in general, just the sober reality of just the amount of debt that we have, that we're in this death spiral. Actually, I found a little video I want to pull up here that is just showing the purchasing power of $100, right? This is since the Federal Reserve was created. So it's looking at the purchasing power from 1913 to today. And it's just crazy if you look at how much 100 bucks was worth in 1903. And here you have tracking as you're kind of moving through right here during the 50s, the 60s, and the gold window closing, early 70s. And here we are now, where it's literally going... And this is probably not even... It's probably much worse than this for a handful of reasons. But as you can see in this chart, we're going from $100 roughly 100 years ago down to about $3. And I think for a lot of people, they look at this and say, oh, well, it's just that natural... It's just what happens, right? Just naturally, as you have more money entering in, more people, it changes. But I think that, first, I think it's deliberate. I think that it's something they've been doing intentionally as a way of keeping us poor. But to me, this right here is a reflection of a financial system that is nearing its conclusion, right? As we know with fiat systems, they always have a beginning and an end to them. What do you think when you see this, though? Absolutely. Yeah, it reminds me of the fact that my grandpa, when he bought a house, it was $4,500. When my dad bought his first house, it was $45,000. And now the average house is $450,000, right? So it's literally 100x what it was, mind you, 50 years ago. But that is the reality of... The house is still the same. The currency unit in which we price them is going down. Yeah, you're right. I think it's end of cycle type of stuff. We're seeing an acceleration in all these big problems like the national debt's growing now. It's over $40 trillion. I've been rounding up for the last six months, but we're officially well over that. You look at interest rates that have been rising because there's issues with the bond market. And then the US now has no real conventional, traditional sources of demand for our bonds because other countries look at our national debt and go, geez, I don't want to own US debt. Come on, they can never pay that back. They're up. That has big effects on the economy. As the economy weakens and the cost of servicing debt goes up, there's actually less discretionary spending that can go around, which means there's less spending into the economy, which means that everything's doing less well. Businesses are actually paying less in taxes, and that makes tax receipts and the revenue of the government go down. And that means that they have a bigger hole in their essentially wallet where they're going to have to print more money to fill the void. And we are seeing that. We went from, I mentioned before we hit record, $2 billion in bond buybacks at the end of July. In just the last five, six weeks, it's now turned into $12.5 billion of bond buybacks that's happening. So a 6x in the amount of liquidity we're providing in just a little over a month. So not to belabor the point, but yeah, we have currency issues that will only get worse because the debt issues are only going to get worse. And that whole death spiral of more debt and higher rates, it costs more, but we're earning less and the economy is struggling. So we have to print more money to do that. So that chart that you showed, that trend is going to continue to go down and down and down. So what are people doing to hedge against that? Well, exactly. And that's the thing is that when you're looking at the global system, that there's going to be some sort of reset. There just has to be. It's a failing system. You can't just keep failing and failing and failing until no end. There has to be some sort of reset. And there's been a lot of speculation as to what would be the cause of that reset. The financial system is this giant pile of gasoline soaked bonfire wood. It is just dry brush covered in gas. And it's like, okay, what is the spark? And what's kind of crazy, as I mentioned, we're getting into is the intersection between financial system and AI. And this is where things get really kind of weird because right now, I think there's some sort of concerted, you could almost argue, campaign going on surrounding AI. And to me, this is the origin of it. This tweet that was published really a little over a week ago by this name, Jacob Coxon, who says, I resigned from Anthropic today. I spent the last three years doing pertaining research at Neither company is acting responsibly. They're racing straight to self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives. More thoughts below. I want to highlight here just the fact that this has 171 million views. That doesn't happen unnaturally. Maybe in a rare case it does, but there's a lot of things that say, okay, there's some sort of psyop going on here. But if you can look at what he's saying, he's saying, do not underestimate the power of this technology. These will soon be superhuman systems that can hack anything, revolutionize any field overnight and acquire real power and resources. We have all witnessed the progress in each of these domains and progress is not slowing. And here's the key right here. He says that people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible. But I hear the same people express fear privately. No other human activity possesses this level of danger. And so when you look at this, and there's a lot of speculation about why this has gotten so viral. This guy, he's being interviewed on major news stations and everything. And the speculation is like, okay, is it because they want to really start to standardize and place guidelines on AI and basically get rid of a lot of open source AI? In essence, like what they do with weapons, right? It's like, well, you can't have an RPG rocket launcher because you're going to do something bad with it. But the government, we can have it because you can trust us, right? So it's like, okay, well, the government can have its own AI and its own regulations, but is this a way to take any of these open source competitors and push them aside? That's one idea. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I completely agree. I do believe in the angle that this could be a bit of a psyop that is essentially going to force the entire sector to be regulated. Only the biggest players are going to have the boxes that need to be ticked in order to be an active player in the space. Everyone else that's too small, they're all going to be basically shut out of the industry, shut out from any kind of development because they're going to crack down on the industry and essentially only know that the big players that are kind of on the inside anyway, getting all that government funding. So that's one angle. I actually don't think that what he's saying is too far off, though. I agree. My concerns and my fears about it, I am sure that all these guys know that this stuff eventually kind of ends with the Terminator or the Matrix or one of these sci-fis actually kind of becoming reality. Unfortunately, I think it's very, very scary. So there's a couple of other theories. One of them that I have is that we've talked about the bubble that's in tech, the bubble and the problems that we see in bonds, and then there's the bubble that we have in housing. So there's the three big asset classes or the three big bubbles, stocks, bonds, and housing. That's where 99.99% of people's wealth is stored in one of those three, if not all three, of those asset classes. And if they create a crash in stocks, generally, the fear from a crashing stock market would cause people to flood into bonds because it's supposed to be that when stocks are down, bonds are up because they're safe. Now, I don't think they're safe anymore, not just because of the national debt and the debt spiral and all the stuff that we're seeing. That's not just here in the US, that's all over. You've got rates and bond issues with every single big government, country, you name it. It's a global thing. But if they crash the stock market to push people from a fear trade or a reactive kind of, I got to save myself or save my portfolio, if they move into bonds, it kind of alleviates the government from having to print all this money to buy back its own bonds to keep rates low, or at least where they are, as opposed to moving higher. And so one of the theories that I have is they're talking about all these rate hikes, now they've maybe engineered this AI race slowdown as a catalyst for popping the AI tech bubble to force people into bonds to save the bond market and to save the government from having to go that much further into debt. Now, is that exactly what's going on? I really don't know. I don't think any of us will until we're looking at it in hindsight and we've gotten through it, but I agree with your point that we are headed very quickly towards some kind of major reset. And I think, again, it's not just us that have these problems. Every single government has followed more or less the exact same playbook. And that playbook, whether it's being doled out to everyone to follow by the cabal or by the powers that be, like with COVID, we're going to do this, and then you're going to lock down your economy, and then you're going to lower rates, and then you're going to print a bunch of money, and then you're going to give essentially universal basic income to everybody and just helicopter money all over the place. You're going to create crazy inflation. You're going to go into insane national debt. Then we're going to cause so much inflation that you have to raise rates and make servicing that debt more expensive. And then with this potential everything bubble, stocks, bonds, and housing, when they all crash, I don't know if it's simultaneously or if it's in sequence, but we have essentially massive bubbles in each of those sectors, like I said, and when they all eventually pop at some point, it'll cause the biggest financial crisis of all time. It'll be 1929 with 2000 in tech, with 06 in housing, and 08 in the global financial system. All of those tied together will be kind of the last event that causes governments to flood in one last time with 5, 10 times more money than was printed during COVID, with a return to zero rates, if not negative rates, like something ridiculous. And then we end up with essentially a sovereign debt crisis and a global currency crisis, and essentially the makings of what I call a debt jubilee. At that point, the G8 or the G20, like all the world's most important countries, will come to the table and say, hey, we did it. We screwed ourselves. We collapsed the financial system. We went too much into debt. We're all defaulting. Our currencies are all worth zero. How do we get back to a blank slate where we can move forward and rebuild from here? And that's, again, what the first turning of the next cyclum could look like. But that, I think, is a debt jubilee where everyone forgives everyone else's debts, and we return to some form of gold standard, which is why, if you look at central banks and countries globally for the last 5, 10, 15, 20 years have all been accumulating gold like crazy, is because the writing's on the wall that eventually we will have to have some kind of global financial reset, which is going to be re-pegged to gold as kind of the primary monetary reserve. So that's my take on all this where it's going, but we'll have to see how it plays out. But I don't think we're going to have to wait a whole lot longer. Oh, I agree. If you or someone in your family is on Medicare or turning 65 soon, you really need to listen to this because some of these decisions, you don't get to make them twice. Medicare has specific windows. It has deadlines, and nobody reminds you. And you don't feel any of that while the window's open. You feel it after, but then you can't change it. 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Whether it's directly a CBDC or whether it's through private companies like we see happening with Tether and some of these companies have gotten really cozy with the federal government. And I think that that's the end goal, right? It's rules for thee, not for me. I mean, look at how this cabal rules things. It's always about, we're the plebs, we're these chattel, these useless eaters that their end goal is just to enslave those of us that they want to keep and get rid of the rest. And that reset could be, okay, governments and billionaires and all the insiders, they're all reset to square, but we get reset onto exactly some kind of CBDC, social credit scores, universal basic income, nobody can work, everyone has to stay home. It's kind of like that movie- Ready Player One? Well, there's that. It's the kids movie, I'm sure you kids have seen this, where it's Wall-E. Everyone's fat, they're in these wheelchairs, they're all being force-fed and spoon-fed and everyone lives in kind of this utopia where nobody does anything, but you can't act out, you can't do anything. So I don't know, to me, that's probably the scariest thing ever, right? Which is obviously why I've myself to be able to get through the worst parts of the fourth turning. We talked about this before I hit record, you might see some people kind of moving out my window, I'm having a generator installed over the next couple of days just to power my whole house for a week to 10 days. If the power goes out for really an extended period of time, you know that I'm kind of a hobby farmer, homesteader, prepper, obviously gold and silver bug, but a hunter and gun enthusiast and all these other things. I have done almost everything. This generator was kind of the last thing that I needed to be able to feel comfortable about a situation where the internet gets hacked, right? That's where this stuff is kind of going with that AI tweet. This guy's saying, one, humanity literally is in danger because at some point these things will be working for themselves, creating more of themselves, and they will not end up being probably all that friendly to us. But there was another tweet, I don't know if you saw this from Dario, who's the CEO of Anthropic, that was the one this weekend where he essentially said, all of us need to slow down. We need to slow down and agree together to kind of like, you know, it's like the nuclear arms race, but it's like the AI arms race. We need to slow it down because we're kind of opening up these portals or these pathways or these, you know, problems that we, you know, don't think are actually going to help anybody. And if we go too far, there's never any going back. And again, if this is a psyop and they're just doing it to either crash docs or to do something or to get the regulators in and squash all the competition, I don't know, but essentially it probably leads to, you know, something like the internet getting hacked or some kind of quantum thing, which Trump has already warned about. Or the, you know, the banking system, right? And this is where there's a lot of ideas about this is that, okay, they know this reset needs to be done. There's, but what is a plausible trigger for it, right? Obviously there could trigger some sort of stock crash, which extends over into the bond market, the housing market, et cetera, as you talked about. But there's also the, you know, we've been warned about these cyber attacks, right? You know, Klaus Schwab a couple of years ago was very famously shared about talking about it would make COVID look like nothing, right? It's a sort of global scale. Exactly. And so, but you always think at that time as well, is it these, you know, say three, four years ago, you're like, okay, is it some sort of globalist hackers doing this, but now it's just AI. And so that's what gets, I've got two more videos, two videos I want to kind of show you that, you know, the, this, the idea that is like, are they, is this not about necessarily even the regulation of AI? Is it not about a genuine warning about AI, but is it in some form, is it laying the groundwork for the plausible scenario where AI creates a sort of banking crisis? And so there's people that believe that that's very true because that could be the perfect thing to usher in a centralized digital currency in some form. And I'll play this video. This is from a guy, Andre, Andre, Zeke, I think. I'm not sure if I pronounced his name properly. He's a big YouTube channel. I'll play about two minutes of this, and I've got a video from Whitney Webb to follow. But this, this right here, how this guy's explaining it seems to be quite plausible, which is scary if you listen to what he's saying. So here we go. So I want to share with you the theories behind why this is really happening. So real quick. So I'm not, it's like a 25 minute video he made. So this is just a little snippet from it. So he's talking about the theories behind like, why are these, this kind of, these threats about AI being talked about, hyped up. Now this video came out before the recent things that happened. But anyway, so just to give a little more context, you'll, you'll, you'll make sense of it. One of the theories is pretty harmless. It says this is all just marketing. OpenAI is trying to go public with one of the biggest initial public offerings in history. And they just released a story about how their model was so capable that it basically broke containment and hacked a company on its own, which is pretty good piece of marketing, right? It's scary and scary means powerful and powerful means valuable. So that's theory number one. But then I found another theory that blew my mind and it's about to sound crazy, but stay with me. This theory says that this story is actually just preparing the public for something big. We are being conditioned that AI can act on its own and it can break into systems. It can do this by itself and the people who built it can't fully control it or even explain how it's doing what it's doing. So now that the seed is there, here's how you usher in the next financial crisis. Imagine this, AI goes rogue, right? Money starts to disappear from people's bank accounts. You wake up one morning, you log into your bank and your checking and saving account shows zero. All your money's gone. Banks freeze. People can't get to their savings and nobody could have stopped it, right? It's the powerful AI. So what do you do? The banks step in like the good guys that they are and they're like, good news guys, we can restore your balance. But there's just one condition. It can't come back to you as the dollars you had before because that system's compromised. Those rails aren't safe anymore. So we're returning your money on a new system, a more secure one in the form of digital dollars and stable coins. Of course, most people are probably going to say yes to this because the alternative is they lose all their money. But that is how you get hundreds of millions of people to opt into a new monetary system without needing to pass any laws. So that's one segment. I'm going to follow up with a segment from Whitney West. It's so scary though, man. I'll let you respond before we jump into Whitney's video. So it's like predictive programming 101. So absolutely, I think he's right. It's like throwing little breadcrumbs out there about this stuff and how it's possible. And I think it's terrifying. It also, you know, I listened to a podcast this weekend about how the government can incentivize people to hold stable coins because essentially the ownership of stable coins is one of the ways that they can actually replace this non-existent demand for bonds. So if they're able to kind of create it almost like a digital demand for bonds by creating an avenue for that money to be held in these longer term treasuries, but what you're doing is you're actually holding stable coins instead of treasury notes. The idea though is that not a lot of people are going to want to do that anymore because again, national debt and all these things that are so concerning. So if they are forcing it is the crazy part because if they do exactly what that guy said, it's like you don't have the option. You will not have any money unless it's this kind of money, which will end up being stable coins, which we then kind of steer into filling the holes wherever we needed to because otherwise people wouldn't do it. So it's just scary. It is because there's a lot of people that will say, I'll never join into a CBDC. I won't do that. I won't get into UBI. But in that scenario, he nails by saying, you don't have to change any laws. It doesn't require congressional oversight. It is a problem. They can vary. I mean, if they say AI did it, who's to prove that it wasn't AI? I mean, maybe it was some dude in some CIA bunker pressing a button that does it, but how are you ever going to know? Because no one understands AI. Even the AI companies don't understand what they're building. And so if you will say, oh, I'd resist it. It's like, well, how? But here's, I'll play this other video. This is from Whitney Webb, who I've got a lot of respect for. And I think that this came out a little before that guy's video. And I suspect that maybe he pulled some of his talking points from this because Whitney is the originator of talking points. You know what I mean? She's the OG on a lot of this stuff. Very much so. So I'll play her video. It's about a minute or two minutes here of her. The cyber attack seems like a very possible scenario because it's a way for the banks to absolve themselves of any role in a financial crisis. It's an easy way to consolidate banks so that only systemically important ones survive the hack. And it could also potentially be a very effective means of onboarding people onto this new digital currency paradigm. So for example, let's say this financial cyber, this cyber attack on the banks takes place and they say, well, the existing money in your account has disappeared. The hackers took it, but we can return to you the exact same amount of money you had, but it won't be in the dollars you had before. It will be in USDC or this dollar back stable coin, or it will be this token. So you can get an equivalent amount of money back from the money that was stolen from you, but it has to be this new money. It has to be part of this new system. There's the potential here for people to steal money from you and then essentially give it back to you, but with new conditions and with a new social contract. You voluntarily accepted this new system and voluntarily onboarded to this new paradigm, but it's a coercion to an extreme degree. All of your money was stolen, right? And now you can only get it back if you take it in the form of the digital dollars that we approve of or the CBDC, depending on where you are. And so it reminds me when I hear her coercion, it reminds me a lot of actually COVID. Oh man, exactly. Like PTSD. Yeah. People saying, I'm not going to get the shots. I won't get the shots. But then what happens if your employer says, I'll never get them. You can't fly. You can't work here. You can't fly. You have to, if you want to see your grandparents. So how many people that wouldn't have got that, they did because they were coerced into it because they didn't see another way out. It's funny, we're both thinking the exact same thing as I'm watching that. Oh, a hundred percent, same reaction and we're on the same wavelength. But then think about the coercion, but then the incentives. Do you remember Free Fries from, what's the mayor? Bill de Blasio. Oh yeah. Free Fries with your vaccination. Well, imagine it's like, hey, earn up to 15% more of your net worth. Yeah. We will give you an additional 15% of your account balance for opting into this system. It'd be so easy because it's all fake money anyway. It'd just be fix it to whatever incentive it's got to be. It would be extremely easy. And can you imagine, I hate to say this, but the have-nots who are basically going to be in dire straits anyway, they'll be like, oh my God, are you kidding me? Of course I'll take that. Is it $20 to get vaccinated? So many people took that because it meant so much to them, just a free 20 bucks. So it's like, think of how many people would opt in for a little bit or even no incentive at all. Because frankly, if your money is gone, what are you going to do? What are you going to do if you don't have access to money? And talking about my generator and being a prepper and all this stuff, I have obviously tons of gold and silver, tons of guns and ammo. I jokingly or tongue in cheek refer to the two real precious metals are lead and brass. If things get down to it, where there's Mad Max type of post-apocalyptic situation or the Terminator or whatever it is, but I've got a year's worth of my Patriot supply for every person in my family, 2000 calories a day for five of us for a year. And you could stretch that out if you needed to, but we also live on a little hobby farm. We have our own garden, chickens, sheep, goes for getting pigs here shortly. I hunt. I try to be as self-sufficient as possible. And only with all of those things, you have to have your food, your energy, your money off grid to the extent that you can. And that's physical gold and silver. I can barter with other farmers. I can barter with other homesteaders. There's a beekeeper down my road. There's other stuff that they have that I don't, that we can make exchanges for. I've got a box of those little two ounce liquor things because some people might not want. It's like, what else can you have? Cigarettes, a couple of sleeves is in. I've literally got probably 300 pounds of just stored away in storage. It's important because if you're looking at these scenarios, it's not about, again, if you look at what the end goals, if you listen to what they're telling us, it's not about, hey, this is actually a better system. It's more convenient for banking. The old system is failing. It's that, no, you are accepting a contract into a prison system. The digital control and the programmatic control of your currency that you use to buy everything in your life, if they can control that, that is the ultimate control. Because if they say then, it's like, well, they don't need to coerce you to get the shot to go to your work. They're going to say, well, you've got to get the shot to protect everyone around you if you even want to get access to your money. You look at this and this is China. You can't work anywhere without having this or that. It's like a Vax Pass, but you can't physically earn or spend a dime without being on the new system unless it's actually off-grid and it's physical and it's something that they're not aware of. One of the comments she made too, which is interesting is like with the banking crisis in March of 2023, Silicon Valley Bank blew up, the New York Citigroup Bank blew up, and there's one other... JP Morgan just swallowed them up, right? Just gobbled them all up. Exactly. These smaller regional banks with issues, they went down. What happened? Just JP Morgan got bigger. The Great Depression, same thing. They got rid of all the small regional banks as a giant bank consolidation operations. This could be the exact thing for, and we're already seeing that, right? Like the direction in which monopolies are going. It's like these conglomerations and these monopolies are these titans of industry that are just gobbling up everybody else. Sometimes they keep the storefront as you think you've got consumer choice. Okay, it's still this little company, but the backend is owned by the big guys. Exactly. There's so few players in every single industry now, but on the finance side, it would be... It's often this David Icke stuff. It's like problem crisis solution, right? We're headed in that direction. The steps by which we get there, we're already well on our way. Like we said, there's a lot of this stuff that's accelerating. I tell people, you got to think about all these little things. It's not just gold and silver, which of course I'm a big proponent of, but it's food, water, faith, community, guns, ammo, blah, blah, blah. You need to have all your little boxes ticked off. Some people are going to be... In the cities, it's probably going to be where this is going to be the worst. I don't say that to scare people who are going to be in the cities, but if you're in top floor of a high rise in an apartment versus on half an acre of land, or you're in the burbs or you're wherever, there's going to be degrees by which people are affected and degrees by which you can make these preparations now so that if and when we get there, and I think it's a matter of when, not so much of if, and the idea that it could be a banking hack or just the internet. I think one of the tweets from this Dario guy, the CEO of Anthropic, or maybe it was one of the other threads, because everybody piled on, including Elon, right? Elon this weekend was like, I fully agree. We all need to slow down on the AI arms race. But this idea that there could be a swarm of bots that hacks the internet, what can you do without the internet? We wouldn't be talking without the internet. I couldn't sign in and send you money, or you can email me. Call me in many cases where you don't have a signal, but you have Wi-Fi, like where you can't really call on your cell phone because it's a spotty signal, but you could have electricity on a generator with a Wi-Fi connection or something. So think about what would happen if the internet didn't work for a day, or two, or a week, or a month. The world would be in shambles. Cascading systems failure, right? And I think also, going back to what the guy was saying in this particular narrative, though he showed images of bank accounts, I think that it's not just bank accounts. It's every digital, this is my understanding of it, it's your brokerage accounts. It's your IRA. It's any form of currency, because if they're going to do this, it can't be like, oh, well, my savings account and my checking account, those got wiped out. But thankfully, I've got my IRA with Vanguard, right? I would say it would be everything. If you're looking at what would be accomplishing this, it is literally a way of resetting everything, forcing every asset that already exists within their system to comply to this new system. And then there, the freedom that we've fought generations for is out the day, or sorry, out the road in a day. Sorry, out the window, to mix metaphors here. Yeah, exactly. Out the window in an entire day. And so getting into solutions for this, because obviously, as you mentioned, a lot of it is lifestyle. Just thinking, okay, what happens if the grocery store didn't have food anymore? How would I sustain? What happens if the power that delivers my water, my municipal water through their pumps and everything disappears, and I've got no access to water anymore? Getting into those things, those are obviously some core proponents of just becoming more off-grid, more self-reliant. But with the financial aspect of it, if I'm watching something, okay, what do you do? It's like, maybe, I think it's great you have some cash. My philosophy is I try to keep as little as my money in the bank as possible. So whether it's just having a little cash that you pull out, but also in looking into... Some people are crypto. I personally don't trust crypto because it requires internet to even access it. So if you lose access to the internet, it doesn't matter if you've got 35 Bitcoin in your Coinbase wallet, good luck accessing it. Not to mention, I don't trust those things anyway, because I think that Bitcoin's part of the overall psyop, but that's a whole different story. But also, I mean, that's why... Again, this is why, for me, I'm such a big believer in just this, right? Just precious metals. Obviously, brass, lead, I've got enough of those to barter with for a while, if need be, or to protect what I bartered for. But when it comes down to this, it's just precious metals. Because it's off-grid. Yeah, go ahead. No, you're totally right. So commodities in general, right? So it could be grain, it could be hogs, it could be land, it could be gold and silver, but it has to be a physical, tangible, finite item, I think, to be safe from this system. That's the only asset class, generally tangible commodities. I think the only thing that is ultimately super safe, and to be also with you to the extent that you can do that. Now, it's hard to own barrels of oil and store it and all this stuff, but gold and silver are actually very dense stores of value. Having some with you and some in an off-site location that's nearby, and then some that's in a trusted vaulting partner. These are definitely options, and I agree with you. I think that it's funny because Whitney Webb, same last name as David Webb, who a couple of years, The Great Taking, which is essentially legislation and laws have already been passed, and it all happened after 08, that essentially makes it legal for financial institutions to collateralize all of your deposits, whether it's cash, or savings, or retirement accounts. Essentially, you don't own stocks in your IRA or your 401k, you own an interest in those stocks, but the actual stock is already collateralized by the brokerage that you use, whether it's Vanguard, or Schwab, or Fidelity. They hold the deed on the shares of the stocks that you own inside of your retirement accounts, mutual funds, or whatever. When I first heard this, what, two years ago, 2024 from David Webb with his book and his videos, they were great. If your audience aren't familiar with it, I think it all ties in really nicely. Again, not only is the legal groundwork already laid for this, but the mechanics by which they could crash the system, whether it's either a stock market crash, a bond market crash, a housing market crash, or all three, or AI, which is obviously what's driving the stock market bubble, if that has some type of black swan catalyst where internet's hacked, banks are hacked, or even if it's not AI, whether it's Russia, or China, or any other bad actor, any other kind of black hat, you name it. There's no shortage of risk, it's just that what are you going to do about it if you're not already prepared? What are your priorities for getting squared up with limiting your liabilities or your exposure to all of these potential risks? You can't live day-to-day in an analog way where you're just paying everyone in cash because you've got bills to pay on the internet, whether it's a car payment or a mortgage payment, but the whole system is so integrated. It's funny because how these agendas get set and everyone goes down them as an entire globe, like the internet came about in the late 90s, and was it ever engineered with this intention of getting everybody so dependent on the system where you literally couldn't live a day without the internet? Most people can't. I look at the days where I'm not on the internet as some of the best that I have, but if you got to this point, it was originally engineered to create this insane dependence and get the whole financial system onto it, and then boom, one day that switch turns off, whatever it is that causes it, and the calamity that will ensue. I hate to think about it, but I sleep pretty good at night. I don't want to doom and gloom people only because I've done what I can. You've done what you can. Exactly. You do what you can. I think that's also an important point with this is that even looking at the perspective, you can look at precious metals, because in my opinion, metals, obviously you want to have food, you want to have water, you want to have brass, medicine, stocks, those are really important. But if you're looking at ongoing life, how do you continue a year from that event where you can still barter, you can still trade, all those things. To me, precious metals, it's the insurance policy. That's the thing. It's interesting because I noticed that the second half of last year when we saw silver and gold go on this meteoric rise, a lot of people really fed into them and got sucked up in them, which is a good thing, but as this investment vehicle thinking, oh, wow, okay, silver is going to go up to this and this. Of course, you want to buy silver at $30 and if you can sell it at $130, hey, that's great. But I think that it's causing a lot of us to miss the point. If I look back at it, because I've been talking about silver and gold for a long time on this show, I've been talking about it since 2020, 2021, actually. At that point, it was never about, hey, silver is going to double in the next year. It was never that kind of thinking. It was, this is how you survive the central bank digital currency. This is how you preserve your wealth. It was never looking at it the same way that you'd be talking about an Apple stock or some investment in some company. Here's why that's interesting is that all the 2020, because I've been doing this since 2020 with noble gold, I've been buying since 2016 personally. And I started buying in 2016 because I heard Jim Rickards talk about ice nine, which was his version of one day, some kind of technology freezes the entire financial system. So what do you have to do? And he's one of my earliest influences. And one of his books, he says like every household needs a monster box of eagles or maples. And monster box being a 500 ounce box of silver rounds, right? Exactly. It comes in kind of like a milk crate kind of green. Yeah. For eagles, it's green for maples. It's yellow for Britannia is it's red or, or black crew grants, whatever you get, but it's 500, one ounce coins. And he's saying that's the ultimate form of insurance. Every household needs one because with 500, one ounce points, if a nice nine or a global, financial shutdown occurs, you can absolutely make it through, right? The market will determine what an ounce of silver is worth at that point. It's obviously worth a lot more than what it is right now, or even the one 20, but I started buying because it's insurance. And then the people who were buying in 2020 and 2021 and 2020, all the way to 2025, really, they were buying it as insurance, financial insurance. We only saw a very, very small one or two month window of actual kind of like FOMO buyers, right? Like a momentum chaser. It's like, Oh, this thing's gone from 30 to 120 in a couple of months. Sure. I'll, you know, I'll, I'll chase that. Now, the thing about that is 120 is nothing compared to the nominal value of where silver will go or 5,500 gold. We're going much higher than that, but you know, it'll only really happen once the people who, you know, like yourself and like me, who've been kind of seeing the connecting the dots and seeing the, you know, the, the trail of breadcrumbs, like where this is all taking us, your audience, thanks to the work that you do are very in tune with, you know, what's going on behind the scenes, what the, you know, cabal is kind of doing to herd everybody in a direction and why eventually mainstream people will see it for what it is and go, Holy crap. And they own nothing, you know, like all the gold and all the silver. I personally sold like several hundred million dollars worth of metals in my six years here. And my company as a company, we've sold, I think $3 billion in the last 10 plus years of precious metals, but that's still nothing. That's a drop in the ocean. The total amount of physical metal in American portfolios is like a fraction of 1%. It's less than exactly exactly less, but it will get to the point to where it's 3, 5, 8, 10% of all capital out there will have to be in this stuff because it's the only place that will actually be safe. And that's the thing is currencies change, financial systems change. You know, currencies can go to zero, stocks can go to zero, your banking go to zero, but physical commodities. And in particular, the monetary metals with thousands of years, they've been through all this ---- before. And they will always make it through. And so not to kind of beat a dead horse, but that is why like you, I keep tons of it here. Look, we need to play with like all throughout the day, but this is just my kind of fun stuff. Having a strategic part of your wealth and portfolio, a big core position of physical metal is sure going to make us all very rich at some point in time, but at the expense of all these other systems collapsing. So again, revert back to its origin as an asset is it's a safe haven asset. It's a lifeboat. And when everyone needs a lifeboat, there's nothing more valuable. And that's kind of what we, again, so it only blimps is up. So there's the, like I've said on this show before, it could be 10,000 for gold, three, five plus a hundred for silver. It doesn't really matter if everything else is going to hell in a handbasket. It doesn't matter if you bought it at 60 or if you bought it at 30, if you bought it at 85 or 120. We have some people who bought it at the end of January, just bad timing, but we will go much higher. So exactly. It's invaluable in of itself to have an asset that again is universally regarded as money will never go to zero and gets you off grid. It has a tangible portion of your wealth. You can go bury it in your backyard. If you have a pond, you can put it in a bag, tie it to a chain, throw it in your pond. I mean, they don't know exactly. Exactly right. They don't know where it is, what it is. They can't track it down. You just need to have discretion with what you're doing and don't broadcast it and all these other things that are very important. Don't show it on screen for interviews for thousands to watch. Everyone needs this stuff. I've been saying this forever. Like when I was called crazy, why are you buying all that food? Why are you storing all that water? Why are you buying all that gold and silver? Why are you moving out to the middle of nowhere? Why do you think you need all this stuff? I'm like, I hope I don't ever need any of it, but I'll be very, very happy that I do if and when we find out that everybody is. Exactly. Up Schitt's Creek without a paddle and then it might, it's not going to save me, but I'll be better off than, it may not save me, it'll make me a little bit better off. And as a father, obviously you need to ask. Exactly. Exactly. What you feel like is your responsibility, right? You have to make sure that all this stuff is in place for when this stuff happens, if it happens, but I'm pretty sure it's a when and not a now. I agree. I agree. So, Mike, I know I've taken a lot of your time and you've got a tight schedule, but if people want to get a hold of you, they want, even if they want some advice from you, they say, Hey, look, should I get a bunch of, say, junk silver? Should I get some silver rounds? Should I pay the premium for silver eagles or should I do silver versus gold? If they want to ask you those kinds of questions or even have you walk through how to acquire your metals, but also how to move 401ks and tax advantage ways so you don't get screwed by the government, what's the best way to get a hold of your company? Yeah. So your page is probably the best and fastest way, but calling us at 877-646-5347, like you said, people can call and ask for me. We can continue the conversation and whether it's advice on how to buy or what to do or how to move into a retirement account, or even like, Hey, I've had people reach out who are audience members who have said, I've done all this stuff to prepare as well. What do you think? And I'm happy to chat even just about that stuff if you want to continue the whole AI conversation. But emailing me is just a final option I want to throw out there because I find it's been very successful with people who are because of AI and AI calls that they get from other companies and these types of things. They don't want to call us and get their name in the system. We don't beat you up with phone calls like other companies, but if you want to email me, I get back to everybody, whether it's two sentences or 2000 words. You can get ahold of me at Micah, M-I-C-A-H at noble IRA.com. Micah at noble IRA.com. And if you want to make that available to anybody. Yeah. I'll make sure we put that in the description. So Micah at noble IRA.com. We have a gold with Seth.com takes you here. The phone number is also a form there. And yeah, I think it's really, it's really important to have this conversation. It's we have to shift our mentality. And I think, obviously, you want to be conscious of what you're buying and the pricing, but if I'm buying survival food, I'm not going and looking at and saying, well, this company, it's about 3 cents less per calorie, or the MyPatriot food prices have gone up a little bit in the past year. I'm going to wait till the prices come back down. It's just like, no, it's like you're doing it as a, it's a lifeboat. It's an insurance policy. It's the same reason that you've got food, water, all those things. You part of that portfolio is this. So anyway, Micah, been good talking to you. I always enjoy speaking with you. Somehow we can still smile amidst this kind of conversation. And we have to, you have to, right? And again, the better prepared you are for your set of circumstances, the happier you can be about kind of what's going on. You can get back to the fun parts of life, right? If I wasn't prepared, I'd be stressing out all the time, like, oh my God, I need to do this and do that. The more stuff you can take care of now before anything bad happens, the better you'll feel and the more you'll enjoy life and the less you'll think about this stuff. So I encourage you to take those steps. And thanks for having me on. Oh, of course, man. Yep. So I've got all the information in the show description. So thanks again, man. 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