Lessons of the Lines: Sword in Two Hands: The Six Dissimilar Guards

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This week we take an initial look at the six dissimilar guards of Fiore's sword in two hands. In this video we introduce them and I share how the balance of these grips also assist in the learning to use other long arms such as the Lanza and the Azza. I share that I see these as the work up sets no different than getting stronger in fitness. It is my theory that the sword is like the 135lb bench press lift to get to the 225lb lift of the Lanza and Azza. In following weeks we will be looking at how to employ them, change into them, and how to fight out of them.
Hello everyone, Kurt Holfeder here and welcome back to another episode from Holfeder Labs.
Today we continue on with the works of Fiore's Armatzari and we are going to be shifting into
the six dissimilar guards in which Fiore prescribes to us that we can hold a sword in of two hands.
Now one thing about this section right here that I am going to talk about is that each one of these
positions have got their own plays and actions which he tells us we can do. There'll be a second
segment on each one of them going down that way with it all as well as how we may get into them.
But for today I want to first and foremost introduce them to everybody for there's some
people that may not know what they are and I want to take the opportunity also to share what my
theory is and how this practice of the six dissimilar guards actually is for something else
which has more about preparing us for the long arm combat of the forearm section. So that being the
case here before I go too far into it let's get into it. Okay so this week we're going to be
focusing on the six dissimilar guards and again some of the observations that we get from them,
I'm sorry that I get from them, that I also think is what Fiore is trying to convey to us as far as
for training as well as utilizing other arms here. Now right off the bat here you can tell I already
have two other pieces right here that are part of his tradition and the reality is I think that
there is a reason why you have six dissimilar guards in this section as you go into the sword
in two hands before we go into other ones and I think that has to do a lot with about what the
second portion of the book really has to deal with which is long armed combat. So in this case right
here when we start to talk about the sword in two hands we are starting to go down the journey of
long armed combat and there are rules there that apply to the body and how we have to shift things
back into close quarter combat that allow us to understand that essentially when you lose when you
lose length and distance on somebody you have to be able to go back to it but before that there's
always entry there's always crossing and whatnot. So the six dissimilar guards I'm going to put them
across the screen right here they are essentially in my opinion they are not just necessarily
positions to take up in a fight they are also what I would say is the beginning reps and sets
that someone might learn before going into larger heavier arms beyond the sword. A way I kind of
talk to my students about this is it's kind of like if you've ever been to the gym and you want
to bench press 225 pounds you don't just start there you start off at lower weights so you might
start with like 90 pounds but work to you know 135 work to 185 and eventually work up to 225
to be able to get to your goal. To me at this point why you have six dissimilar guards with
the sword is because essentially this is that 135 weight area that we're going to on the journey
to the 225 and beyond weights. These six dissimilar guards are not just ways to do that however they
are also very universal concepts that we can utilize the sword that make the fight of the time
very dynamic. In armored fighting out there it is not uncommon to see these types of guards come
into place it's also not uncommon to think that you know to employ them to be able to distract
people in different forms and fashions and so as much as we are also learning about how to use
longer arms we are also in the same context right here making this tool here the sword
a lot more deployable under different types of combat situations. So we're going to talk
about all of these right here again the first one that we see within the manuscript is the
archer's guard the post essentiario so it's sitting there along the lines like this now
obviously this looks like it's a throw position in the following videos in the following weeks
I'll be talking about what he says in each of these and then I'll be talking about how to deploy
these things and so on and so forth. But this right here essentially is just a throwing guard position
to allow ourselves to be able to hurl the sword. In the link to the description of this video
you'll also see a spot in there as well a video that I put up there where I throw sharp swords
in one of my cutting ranges and it is very effective and I highly encourage you to take a
look at that because I think that this is something that is very prevalent and very easy to do
and had a very very important relevance in the history of time. So archer's guard very simple
and easy right here I just turn myself open I turn my and I open my foot back here same
constant as opposed to longer which allows me the ability to get this position up. The next position
that we see is the standard sword in one hand position so we've already seen this guard position
as before so it's down here along the side here up slightly to upwards the point being is that
once again use the sword on this right here so you have a mass weight here and you can cover
in different forms and fashions. The third one here is one of the shortened sword guards or
armored guards that we see or grips I should say and again the thumbs are aligned towards the tip
if you will but my hand is not on the pommel so much it is I'm sorry it's not on the haft
it's dropped back to the pommel for mass extension and reach here. This makes it very nimble and the
the next armored sword position is putting the hands together inside here or our thumbs are
inboard and now we have the sword in front of us in this form and fashion here again very very very
tight to the body and also being able to have a little more structure with the length of the blade.
Both of these right here this is a quick note and I'll talk about it here it's different as far as
how they all go this right here is longer but it's weaker just because the arm is inside of
how the structures work here this is a weaker position this right here is shorter but it is
stronger because of the structure of my arms and I think those are just once again variants ways of
being able to do this. The fifth position is that sword in two hands position that we will be talking
about here in the next couple of weeks which is both hands on the handle and the sixth position
here is we see him in an axe guard position I'm sorry axe grip that's what I call it where I
held the sword in place here on the point and also here in half and I have it at the crossguard
section. This is not a position that's universal to Fiore in plenty of German systems you'll hear
it called as the as the Mordschlag or throwing the Mordschlag at somebody. Fiore doesn't he
talks about this as far as a sword that is also an axe as well which in previous videos you've
seen me talk about this right here some of the armored swords that are in his manuscript as well
okay so now that we've discussed what these six positions are here we're going to discuss about
how I feel that they tie together into other concepts which are very important there's lessons
within them so before we start talking about what they do individually we're going to start talking
about how they translate and once again why I think they convey to these different tools of
war as well. So the first position we have here with the the archers right so being able to throw
the sword interestingly enough if I hold like this of course the tip goes down just longer in
weight right and this case right here you see the same thing right here when it comes down to being
held by the tip area this weighs more so therefore wherever it's at whatever is dominating it so if
I let go this is going to swing right if it stays in my hand it's going to make the other portion
swing so this becomes the bevel point if I move my arm up right here now it basically becomes
something that I am able to be able to transfer this out and throw with relative ease. This
transfers over very nicely into the lance up in the same fashion now if I carry this right if I
want to throw this thing but I need to have the weight in the back appropriate so that it doesn't
dip down in flight but it actually carries forward in that kind of flight area. Mind you this right
here is something I built for myself so you know it's it's not necessarily 100% historical
but it does convey the lessons of which I think Fjord is trying to say with the lance up it's
got a pedaling here which does convey things right it does allow for certain rotational pieces which
is another part that's also once again taught with the sword. So if I'm in this position right here
when I come in to throw this and we see images of him throwing spears or people throwing spears
and my logic is that he had people throwing spears and he's taught you how to throw it
because you have to be able to train against it then you know how to hold this thing in a way that
is balanced so that when you cast it it doesn't start flipping in the air. That is something that
the sword in this position teaches. The second position the sword in one hand and the sword in
two hand as far as handles itself to me are just sword positions. You can of course hold an axe
a spear and we will hear things like Pulse of the Adonai when it comes down to certain things right
here you'll get those things right here but the reality is by holding it here in this position
this right here is not necessarily a fighting position this is right here and now we're
starting to talk about how we can use this thing at max blade extension. Okay so we're not you
that doesn't necessarily translate over into this however we do know and some of the images we'll
see pictures where Fjord has the axe up in the position right here where he has it right here
we do see that possibility out there but again as far as lessons go of this right here this is
again what I would say when you cast it this way this is talking about this tool set this tool
right here as far as blade optimization and doesn't necessarily convey over to this. Okay
the third one is once again where we have our thumbs aligned into this right here
this is also the weight is back in this which allows for a faster tip you can already see here
how this in itself becomes very much so like a spear or a lance so in this case right here again
if I'm holding up the spear my thumbs are towards this gives me the ability to stick where I need
to go if this is very forward this all is very heavy it's all in the forearm right here that
makes it harder someone clacks this down I'm locked into place so again being able to make
it so that I have the space to work a lance in place is important that comes from that guard.
With an axe it's no different again we have the breather who's the breather and again if this
is very far out there this is very heavy and sure some people might be thinking well I can fight
that way you could but again this isn't just about 30 second bouts like we might see in modern day
it's a longer fight and being able to convey this and work this means that you have to be able
to balance it out properly so that the sticking mechanisms that happen here
are pliable in that context. The next guard position that we see is where again the other
armored sword position thumbs inboard we find it we'll find out later on but this actually
is a great position against dagger we'll talk about this so this position right here conveys
to the other tools of war that we see within Fiori's arsenal so this does also convey very
very much so to both the sword and the I'm sorry to the lance and the axe however I also believe
it conveys very much so to dagger so this right here becomes the same concept as Reveza where you
can kind of go back and forth and use a backhand shot to create different areas right here just
like with the dagger we have the same kind of line right here it's the same kind of concept
right here where we can have that backhand shot to fight with so because this thing is equaled up
here we're closer to the mid we're closer to the mid portion of the handle we have a little bit
equal balance right here to be able to do the things that are necessary that's the big part
about this right here so this is basically in my opinion a great way of teaching how to fight
but also conveys once again to pull arms
as we know in that situation right here with the heavier weight that means I can also start
looking at striking areas so again how we start utilizing this back and forth to kind of get that
bashing kind of smashing mechanism that happens and again built up in more we're very very strong
and that allows us to convey and do things that in this position we can do but because this is
open it does make us a little bit weaker to bricks same thing with the axe we'll see that also with
the axe in my opinion is his very crochet whether it's this way right here thumbs align or here
I mean honestly I try I can look at that but sometimes the drawing is a little bit kind of
crazy I don't think he really cares I think it could be this way or it could be this way
point being is once again I have means of being able to strike with that backward shot
which allows this thing to be much more dynamic in that in that purpose when it comes down to the
next position the sword in two hands being out off the shoulder here so again we have it where
again we're talking about max usage of the blade now of course this does convey over to the other
arms here but again as I said the weight of these of historical ones is different than when
something that you go away from the training there's plenty of patents about there but does
not weigh the same thing as a historical piece of equipment so with this position here having
the sword in two hands it is about longest projection of the sword itself into a position
which allows us to kind of be able to use the crossings which we talked about last week and
of course the last one we have here is the concept of ax grip where we see it right here and again
there are great trainers out there for this but this once again the weight in the hands here feel
the thumbs are in line towards the puddle which allows me to once again create the same thing but
I reserve my heavy position the cross guard here in reserve so I might be out here and then strike
out with that heavy blow when I've cleared up certain things in front of me as you can already
tell that right there also is no different within the ax using the q end right here to thrust in
and have my heavy blow in reserve so that when it does come maybe I beat strike at the same time
and this heavy shot is ready to go and deliver the punch I need for it okay so that right there
that right there is the conveyance of what I believe those six positions talk about
and they convey to the training piece out there with the sword interestingly enough here I see
once again I talked about the algorithm the combinations which Fury offers for us
so each and every last one of these shows us ways in which how to hold this in a beneficial factor
so this right here in this position we're looking at how our fingers are basically holding this
here we see one hand on the sword one hand off here the thumbs are both aligned towards the tip
here both here both the hands are uh both the thumbs are aligned towards the center
whether and we're already starting to see how these become combinations like what can you do with each
of the hands um when we start going into other positions here of being on the sword both hands
are on the handle right now right and then final last but not least both hands on the blade itself
so but if you're here they're now once again pointed towards the pommel of the sword so in
that position right there those are all advantageous things and beneficial ways to carry this thing
so that you may also be able to deploy it but I also believe and when I teach this portion
in my classes I also believe that this right here is the great way to also convey the necessary
training that happens for later arms because the sword becomes such a diverse tool of war
and that concludes this portion right here about the six dissimilar guards and some of the lessons
we see out of them as well as the various combinations that happen that happen with them
we'll be talking about other ones here in the following weeks in regards to each one of their
plays and what they talk about to kind of convey again once again the purpose of those positions
