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hello everybody welcome back to another
video by dissociated this is going to be
another debunking did video about the
differences between dissociative
identity disorder and schizophrenia we
get a lot of comments and have done in
the past especially about whether did is
the same as schizophrenia whether it's
the same illness with a different name
whether they're similar or very very
different a lot of people seem to be
under the impression that dissociative
identity disorder which was formerly
known as multiple personality disorder
is a psychotic illness in the same way
that schizophrenia is this is not true
dissociative identity disorder is not a
psychotic illness but schizophrenia is
some symptoms of schizophrenia being a
psychotic illness is that it often comes
with symptoms like hallucinations
delusions paranoia disorganized speech
and disorganized thought patterns
disorganized movements as well and
withdrawal from society it has
absolutely nothing to do with
dissociative identity disorder or having
multiple personalities
or alters in any way shape or form
people with dissociative identity
disorder are not
delusional and they're not hallucinating
having their alters and that's one thing
that's a very big difference between
schizophrenia and dissociative identity
disorder is that with schizophrenia
often
symptoms involve hearing or seeing
things that aren't
really there in the physical world
they're hallucinations and delusions but
with dissociative identity disorder
the voices
that
people with this disorder have
are
in some sense real obviously they're not
real in the external world but they're
not having delusions of having
multiple people taking over their body
this is an actual thing that happens
due to a defense mechanism in the brain
to protect from trauma it's all about
amnesic walls and having
different personality states different
memories being separated by memory loss
in order to allow
the individual to live a somewhat normal
healthy life without being burdened by
memory of the trauma in childhood which
causes the id to develop so while people
with disassociative identity disorder
may have symptoms that are related to or
similar to psychosis in terms of hearing
voices for example dissociative identity
disorder and schizophrenia are very very
different illnesses one thing that is
similar though between people who suffer
from schizophrenia and people who have
dissociative identity disorder
both of those illnesses come with a very
big stigma attached by society's views
on one individual must be like
if they have these disorders one stigma
that is very very common surrounding
both of these disorders is that they
must be dangerous or are more likely to
be criminals than any other member of
the population when it comes to both of
these illnesses that is not true at all
people with dissociative identity
disorder and people with schizophrenia
are no less likely and no more likely to
commit a crime or be violent than any
other person that you may meet walking
down the street regardless of whether
they have a mental illness or not
in fact both people with schizophrenia
and associative identity disorder are
more likely to be victims of abuse
another thing that's similar between
schizophrenia and dissociative identity
disorder is that it can't be cured with
exercise or healthy eating or willing it
away you can't just say to someone who's
experienced a delusion or a
hallucination and say
it's not real you know it's not real
you're making it up deal with it get
over it treatment for dissociative
identity disorder and schizophrenia
requires evidence-based therapy being
given by a professional so as i said
schizophrenia is a very different
disorder from dissociative identity
disorder but people with dissociative
identity disorder can also have
experiences with symptoms of psychosis
and psychosis is a very big part of
schizophrenia psychotic symptoms include
delusions delusions of false beliefs
that can't be changed by evidence
hallucinations hallucinations are
hearing or sensing voices that aren't
real or aren't really there this can be
things other than just voices so you can
see things that aren't really there hear
things feel things that aren't really
there and hallucinations are a symptom
that can come with dissociative identity
disorder but are very very integral to a
diagnosis of schizophrenia so somebody
with the id may or may not suffer from
hallucinations but somebody with
schizophrenia will definitely suffer
from hallucinations disordered thinking
so muddled thoughts and confused speech
patterns movements that are disorganized
thought processes that can be easily
interrupted because people with did do
exhibit symptoms that sound like this
it's not a psychotic symptom
the reason that a lot of people with
dissociative identity disorder can
struggle to keep the train of thought
and may have slightly muddled speech is
because they're dissociating and
dissociation is something that is
integral
to a diagnosis of dissociative identity
disorder hence the name dissociative
identity disorder so
in people with the idea that's not a
psychotic symptom but it is a symptom of
psychosis for people with schizophrenia
i think correct me if i'm wrong i'm
pretty sure that's right but i mean
yeah don't don't hesitate to um
educate me if i am wrong because i don't
want to be putting any incorrect
information out there but to the best of
my knowledge that's accurate however
despite having a lot of psychotic
symptoms
schizophrenia can
involve symptoms that also aren't
psychotic so non-psychotic symptoms can
include things like
losing the ability or not being able to
express emotions very well
not being able to express thoughts and
feelings they may also experience low
motivation and a lack of pleasure some
people who have schizophrenia may also
have cognitive deficiencies such as
problems with memory and recall issues
involving mental skills and
memory span attention verbal skills and
other mental functions
but
let me say
every single one of these symptoms may
or may not affect somebody with
schizophrenia just like with anything
it's an individual experience and it can
be vastly different in the way that it
develops per individual everyone's
experience will be a little bit
different so you don't have to have
every single one of these symptoms in
order to have schizophrenia however it
is quite common for people with
schizophrenia to experience functional
decline and this can affect people with
dissociative identity disorder too we
may find it harder to work or create
lasting social relationships and even
organization just
simple things like that can be very
difficult which has a big impression on
your life you wouldn't think that such
little things could have such a massive
influence on the way somebody is able to
express themselves and go about living
as they wish to
but a long lasting period of functional
decline is generally
a strong symptom
of both dissociative identity disorder
and
schizophrenia but of course when it
comes to every disorder there are people
who are high functioning and people who
are low functioning and people who are
somewhere in the middle so it's
completely possible to have either
dissociative identity disorder or
schizophrenia and be very very high
functioning that means able to get a job
able to organize having very strong
long-lasting relationships with people
who are important to you
just because you have or suspect that
you may have dissociative identity
disorder or schizophrenia doesn't mean
that your life is over and that you'll
be unable to achieve the things that you
want to achieve especially if you have
good treatment and therapy because there
are options out there to help you with
both of these disorders and although yes
they are very very different they are
both extremely misunderstood by society
and people who are otherwise uneducated
on the topic
so
there are things that are in common
between individuals who have did or
schizophrenia but the illnesses
themselves form and develop in very very
different ways just like with
dissociative identity disorder you can't
catch schizophrenia there does seem to
be a few different ways that
schizophrenia can develop we aren't
super duper sure right now there's still
a lot of research going into this but it
does seem that evidence is pointing
towards
a a hereditary link so if somebody in
your family has schizophrenia you're
more likely to develop it it may be
something to do with a recessive gene
but like i said there's still a lot of
research going into it and it's the same
for dissociative identity disorder you
can't catch these disorders because
they're not illnesses they're not colds
you can't get schizophrenia or
dissociative identity disorder from
having a bang to the head
or having a particularly bad flu or
anything like that in order to develop
dissociative identity disorder a child
before the ages of seven to nine must
experience repeated trauma
and it needs to be before those ages of
seven to nine as that is when the
personality fully coalesces into one so
if there is repeated trauma before the
personality integrates
then
the mind can say nope can't deal with
this can't leave
this behind and pretend it doesn't
happen and live a normal life because
it was so traumatic
so what happens is the mind puts up an
amnesic wall which means that the mind
is separated into
let's say two parts so on either side of
this amnesic wall no memory can be
shared so one part of the mind will have
the memory of this trauma and the other
part won't
and the part without is then able to go
ahead and live daily life without
awareness of this trauma having happened
to the child
but the part on the other side of the
wall will have that memory
so as the child grows these two parts of
the mind will develop as separate
individuals we already know because of
how they developed that they have their
own memories they will have their own
experiences in life they can make their
own friends they will develop their own
opinions based on their experiences
their own views on the world their own
tastes
their own reactions to the world around
them they develop as different people
just like any other child would develop
and of course when it comes to
dissociative identity disorder you can
have many many many alters our system
personally has 24 so more than two is
fine but just like with schizophrenia
you can't catch dissociative identity
disorder so that was another debunking
did episode for you in debunking did we
debunk all the inaccurate information
and stigmas that come with dissociative
identity disorder and try to shine a
light on what it really means and what
is the true reality of having a life
with dissociative identity disorder and
every single
piece of information will be linked down
below in the description as always all
our debunking did episodes are
scientific and have lots and lots of
links to studies and evidence that i've
drawn this information from so if you
want to do your own research please
please please i must encourage you to do
that this stuff is very very interesting
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