Misprint snapped this bolt! How we removed the broken bolt PSA Triumph Owners! #triumphbonneville

If you do not want to find yourself in this position of a broken off bolt and a cam cap or anything else you're gonna watch this video. Got some good tips for you. Especially if you're a Triumph owner there's a bunch of misprints out there. Hey friend. Smash that subscribe button It really helps us out. Also we have hundreds of videos and playlists on here for you And then we started adding timestamps so the videos you can jump around and get right to the information you want. We even start adding captions so you can pick your language Enjoy the video. Hey friends Shane from How2Wrench.com and you probably saw from a short where I said I'd do a longer version on what the problem was for this Triumph with a snapped bolt on the valve cover. So come here and check this out. So this is a really popular manual. The Triumph aftermarket manuals and when you go to the valve cover it says 14 Nm Okay. Now check this out, looking at some threads online because that number bothered me. Okay I was thinking wait that's too high.. That's more than ten foot pounds. And let's think about this The fastener in here is a 6 mm by 1.0 thread pitch. Those are typically like 6-8 Nm Once a while with a high grade bolt I'll see 9 but it's typically 6-8 foot pounds. Okay? Which I also convert to inches but so what we found here is somebody said hey my Triumph shop manual says tighten to finger tighten them progressively to 10 newton meters. Right Page 3.5 Now listen to me. This is why as a technician it's a really good idea to have like the generic torque charts. Typically a generic torque chart that says on average what's a six millimeter bolt what's an eight millimeter bolt. Where people really get into trouble…on these as they think about the size of the tool …that they're using and then if they're using a generic chart they get into trouble because typically a six millimeter bolt uses a like an eight millimeter wrench or a ten millimeter wrench and that's a place people really get into trouble. Alright Here's an example of a generic torque chart that I love using I've used for many years and I'll put the website link below if you wanna grab one for yourself but once again you should really use the OEM manual. That's my favorite to determine what torque specs you have but if you're trying to study and learn and understand what these numbers mean, this is a great chart that I always used with my students …So I'll tell you what to do I'll make a deep dive on how to interpret these charts and how to use them for the member channel but let me kinda jump into the reason that this particular Triumph was so borderline… So if you look at that on a dry one you can go up to twelve. To get into that 14 range on a dry one you have to be a really high grade bolt and just like I said that was that border line Should it break Shouldn't it? You know it's just kinda scary It was just right on that line. I just wanna show you this so that you knew how to study it. Like I said use your your OEM manuals is usually your best source of truth but hey sometimes there's misprints. So I hope this helps clarify what I meant by the general manual… wrench or a ten millimeter wrench and that's a place people really get into trouble. I mean I can't stress enough what we wanna be able to do in a perfect world is go to manual the manual be correct, and it says torque to this. Well this is a perfect example where there's a misprint. It was way too tight So…When you're questioning that stuff it's a really good idea to research this. And, on this one in particular like being super transparent, I went to twelve and I'm like this just doesn't feel good I don't like this and when we backed the bolt out the bolt had actually snapped. I also wanna show you Triumph owners because you're gonna run into this. Somebody's gonna click on this video and go well mine are already broke, what do I do? So trying to work through the valve cover, I wasn't having the success and then what I did is pulled the valve cover and we bumped the starter motor until the valves aren't touching touching. . So there's no pressure on any of this... I could pull that one cam cap off. The other thing you wanna be careful of you'll see little numbers and orientation orientation, , you, could, see how the numbers were on the back side of this, so you want to put it back in the exact same position the exact same way. And then what I did this was just to clean it afterwards. You may. have seen…in the short video I'll go to the vice here. Is I knew…I wasn't having a luck from the top side because I have that recessed hole and to try to get in here with anything I don't have much room to work. I tried a small screwdriver…and what happened is it just got to a point where it quit turning. When these break, this little broken off piece in there is usually just floating in there free. It's not actually it's not torqued against anything, it's just left behind if you will Right? So what I did in this case is we removed the cap I put it here in the vise, and then I started playing around with now that I could see that it was poking through. Instead of trying to go out the other side I wanted to try and just keep getting it out this way. So if you think about this This is upside down. Right So if I take my chisel and I hit counterclockwise that'll keep threading it out because I know the threads are good on the bottom. Their threads were a little buggered up on the top side where it broke and there's some little debris or something in there but they're really good clean on this side so I want to just come through with it Right? Well I want this vice in the minimal amount of clamp. Because I don't wanna be putting a bunch of pressure on the hole Right I just want it to hold it not to grab it so tight that it's also gonna clamp the broken bolt in there And then I'll clip in that little video of the short here but then I got in here. Got a really really sharp chisel and just very intentionally…light little tap. And just kept working my way out got it so far and once it was protruding enough you could just kinda if you can wiggle it with your finger and it's kind of floating in there The moment you can grab on it with something, then I just twisted it out like that. Does that make sense? So we we've got a couple of things here. This just sucks when it happens and I wish I would have questioned…that torque spec you're reading to me better but we're using a manual and sometimes this just happens and you go okay well I'm not you know, that familiar I've done a five million Triumph you know valve cover gaskets, and that's where it can get into trouble I really should have I should have fought that back a little more from just my experience and said Ah that seems pretty high but dang it's right on that right on that verge of the chart. If you have a Triumph and this helped you, this is a 2007 T100. There are a billion of these out there and in the very first link that we chose to do a little research, we saw people talking about how this is a common problem. So hopefully this is a solution to you I really hope that you get this information before you break yours so that you could get the right torque spec. But if you run into that here's the solution for you. 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