Elizabeth Holmes EXPOSED? Nathan Fielder's "You Can See Everything"

Yesterday, right after doing the show, I texted my daughter because I knew she was like doing business over here on this side of the Mulholland in the valley. And I said, want to go see a movie with your old man? And she was like, you can see everything, the Elizabeth Holmes movie. And I'm like, absolutely. So we go. My daughter, Mary, and I went. It was unbelievable. It was two hours and 54 minutes. Okay. It's a long movie. Amanda Seyfried did this very weird interview over the weekend and that now it's becoming clear to me. Harry, do we have the interview Amanda Seyfried did with the Hollywood Reporter? Okay. Roll that in please. How's your life? It's interesting. Yeah. It's interesting. It's really hard to do interviews right now. Yeah. But for a good reason. Like, I don't know. I think everything that's happening is meant to happen. Everything, everyone that's in your life is meant to be in your life. That's just kind of, it's, and I'm here tonight, and I'm meant to be here, and I get to go home tomorrow, and I get to go home, and so on and so forth, and then some. Does it make party conversations difficult? Only, only of late. For people who are going to approach you over the next couple of days, tell them what's the best way to engage. What's the best way to engage with me? Talk about besides things you can't talk about because we know that there's things you can't talk about. I like to talk about, you know, the emus. I like to talk about the emus. And I like to talk about Halloween. And if you can engage with me if you want to talk about all things having to do with... Yeah. Hmm. Apple pie and, like, olives and... Bah, bah, bah. Okay. You know, really good hard ciders. how's your life interesting uh-huh uh-huh yeah okay i don't want to look spoiler alert i guess a little i would never give away the whole thing but i gotta talk about this and i think i can do it in a way that it's going to be helpful you know what i have a wonderful guest he and i will dance around this together um uh first by the way i thought that was amanda seyfried you know just trying to skip around her divorce. She filed for divorce or separation a month ago. She and Thomas Sadowski announced that they're splitting after nine years of marriage. They have two kids. They said they'd been separated for a while before going public, so it wasn't really new to them. We'll always love each other, blah, blah, blah. But then I realized, having seen You Can See Everything, you remember Amanda Seyfried famously in the Hulu series played elizabeth holmes the dropout unbelievably great series uh anyway she she gets involved nathan fielder and lance oppenheimer the directors um it generated 15 million dollars in sales it's it's the biggest north american documentary opening since michael moore's fahrenheit 9 1 9 11 um 15 million it only costs 7 million i think to make which a24 the production companies become brilliant at spending little and making a lot uh their margins are crazy wired magazine described it as a singularly astonishing film uh and i will say this amanda seyfried in there is in there for the a long time she's not just a little cameo it's art imitating life life becomes art half doc half reenactment drama i don't know um i also have a crazy thing to tell you and that is that billy evans who is the father of elizabeth holmes kids basically her husband although i don't think they're married i'm friends with his father and i didn't realize it we became friends at the Can film festival years ago in fact my guest right now who i'm going to welcome at this moment movie mance scott movie mance who is the greatest and the greatest film aficionado i've ever known oh you were you were part of the group that got to see this movie when it was sprung at the Tell Telluride film festival was it Telluride Tell Telluride Billy First of all it's great to see you my brother i'm so happy to be talking with you so here's the thing so yes i was part of that crowd at the Telluride film festival and the thing that made it so special is this was a secret screening none of the people who were sitting in the theater knew what we were going to see until the director of the festival Julie Huntzinger came to the microphone at the podium and said this is the movie you're seeing you can see everything directed by Lance Oppenheim and Nathan Fielder like i've been to Telluride 12 times i've been to Sundance 23 times Toronto 18 times all these film festivals i've never had an experience like this and of course you know the movie blew me away and then after the film the two directors did a Q&A that was moderated by Emma Stone Emma Stone who worked with Nathan Fielder on that tv show The Curse but anyway uh i was blown away by the film a lot of takeaways from this movie or maybe not starting with the fact that i was really impressed that this was not a typical documentary you know what i mean it did not go back yeah it didn't go back and rehash everything like a documentary and show old footage and everything if you're watching the film it's like if you know you know we're not going to go back there and for the first half of the movie you know nathan fielder you know who was just going to just have uh elizabeth holmes you know talk to her but he wasn't going to be on camera but then he he had to put himself in the film because you know here's a guy with the rehearsal his tv show the rehearsal who was like kind of pranking the people that he was interviewing right who knows he's an odd duck man i mean you don't know what he's really doing um he has met his match in elizabeth holmes because they both are people that linger in a moment a little too long you know what i mean like yep elizabeth holmes so when they're just kind of sitting there i think these are two people who like a moth to a flame go to an awkward pause and and and you just like you feel it all over you it's very odd oh man billy it was awkward awkward is a word and a half for the feeling that you get during the duration of this interview now what people have to know is that the interview with holmes only takes place for the first half of the movie right you know then she goes to serve her her uh you know prison sentence jail yeah at jail and then for the rest of the film um you know it turns into something else turns into something very meta um you know i don't want to spoil it because you know the movie just opened and there's a lot of people who haven't seen it yet, well since we don't have access to her, i think it's okay to say we get access to someone that can represent her right, the aforementioned put it together now there's a couple things i have to, i have to complain about, okay i don't think it's like there's some, first of all you need to tell all your people in the movie world stop making three hour films, it's too long for people and i hope your person at Telluride said we have a very special surprise for you, now go take a leak, everyone go pee right now because i had to piss in them, excuse my language, i had to pee in the middle, i'm a 55 year old man, i don't sit for three hours ever under any circumstances and i also have a problem with seeing Billy Evans' penis and i'm gonna say it right now, i'm sorry that's a spoiler alert, you need to know you're gonna get an unnecessary schwanz shot, a schwanz close-up that nobody wanted and nobody needed and had nothing to do with the movie, all right Billy, first of all you're right, the movies are too long but this film you can see everything, i was so caught up, wait hang on, i was so caught up in it and i was so like where is this going, where is this going, where is this going, that the three hours to me, okay, and i see a lot of movies the three hours flew by, it really by because again you know you're watching this film and you're getting such an awkward feeling that sustains itself for so long because you're you're still not sure during the Elizabeth Holmes part is she really that like out there where she doesn't see that she did something wrong she is my takeaway way okay is that Elizabeth Holmes is cuckoo for coco puffs you know she's uh not operating with a full deck here and i still think that she's i still think that she's in on the joke if you will because you know Nathan Fielder lived with Billy and Elizabeth Holmes during the last 44 days leading up to her incarceration in prison and like she was on her guard the whole time and then i didn't even know who Billy Evans was until i saw the movie and boy did i get more than i bargained for with him um and he is also in on this i i mean i didn't think for a minute like when when when Fielder asks Elizabeth Holmes have you ever lied before and she goes no i don't think so i don't believe that for a minute but i will say that watching this documentary hang on yeah right with those wide eyes i will say that watching the film i could a see how Holmes was able to dupe all those investors and b she's again she's she's totally off her rocker yeah that's the question is they get down to this big question about some how the how they're you know they're making this documentary and when you make a documentary it needs to be authentic which means you need to be clean as a subject and so they get to this debate in there as uh you know we're making we're giving you access to our lives you're going to make a probably a lot of money off of this she hasn't spoken in nine years you know billy gets a little business like and is like how do we participate and she elizabeth pretends and you don't know whether she knows and she's leaving it to billy to be good cop bad cop or does she literally not know and it becomes your bellwether i guess to figure out it like how this applied to when she was at theranos like did she knowingly know or was she because she still maintains that she did nothing wrong she maintains the technology of theranos works yeah um that that was just iteration 1.0 that when 2.0 comes you know we're really going to see this through they're still in business they're still trying to do Theranos yeah yeah they're still trying to do it I was like are you kidding me just let it go let it go like like just do something else open up a restaurant or open up an ice cream store but yeah let the whole Theranos thing go but it was just you know what you were saying at the top of this conversation before I jumped on here about 824 this movie was in production no one knew about it all the people you know for the four days that i was a tell your ride before the movie even started we knew that there was a secret screening we were all all the other journalists and all the other critics you know i know all these people who at Telluride we're all in this little bubble here and we're all trying to figure out what's the movie what's the movie for a little bit we thought it was going to be Digger the Tom Cruise movie but then we found out it's a Nathan Fielder film and then it started to turn the conversation start to turn that it's the Holmes documentary which i didn't know really anything about until i got to Telluride boy Digger took a digger i mean yeah there's nothing worse than when you actually write a film's fate as the title of the film but billy billy here's the thing you can see everything made 15 million dollars in its opening weekend that is twice what digger opened with Digger cost about $180 million to make, and you can see everything costs seven. Is Nathan Fielder the new Tom Cruise? Is that even a figure? That's the question that the old entertainment news shows that we used to work for would ask. Yes. Is Nathan Fielder? Are you kidding me? Jesus Christ. This guy's a very odd duck. Nathan, I've texted him. I'm trying to get him on. He is as odd as they come, but he's perfect for this. Do you think it's a little self-indulgent, um well i i you know i thought that for a minute like what is he doing putting himself in the film he's in a lot i mean it's really about him but but i think it works because of that reason otherwise you don't get much of her right yeah otherwise you would have just it just would have been her and billy evans and that would have been it but you know by putting himself in the film and then you know the second half turns into what the second half turns into something very very meta um and it works but you know here's a film it's a phenomenon it's the who would have thought that the must-see movie event of the year was not the odyssey uh or not digger but a movie a documentary about elizabeth holmes and this is a film brace yourself billy this movie is going to get nominated for best picture oh yeah best directors maybe uh i mean Don't say best actor for Nathan Fielder. They can't. That's not possible. Director, though, he is a director. He and Lance directed it together, so maybe they'll – and by the way, I think that is – this is novel. This is – at least, you know, we see everything. You can see everything. Yeah, this is new. This is something you have not – this is an idea. It's true creativity. It's wicked genius. it's swinging for the fences on something and whether it connects or not i always admire those who swing for the fence and this one does connect i mean there's no question they pulled it off amanda cypher now there's a couple of them there's the I mean I don't know if Amanda Seyfried like she she pissed off half of people I would assume with one political statement about Charlie Kirk which came out I was like oh my god that's in the movie why didn't they take that out Amanda Seyfried is like don't you want people to just she's a brilliant actress I think and you said any gorgeous yep she won the Emmy for playing Elizabeth Holmes she won the Emmy for Holmes does she win the no she can't play the Oscar it's it's it's it's too much of a we've already seen that but boy she does I mean her Holmes is her her wait a minute Billy I mean I feel like with the cats out of the bag already in this conversation here Elizabeth Holmes or rather sorry Amanda Seyfried see what I did there I mean it's like man the lines are so blurred but Billy Amanda Seyfried was better as Elizabeth Holmes and you can see everything that she was in the Dropout and she won the time to work on it yeah she had time to work on it oh how about the moment when it's okay there's there's and it's just it's very surreal at times when you have Elizabeth Holmes so you're watching so and so be you but watching you be them be you be it gets so crazy at one moment yeah that it's actually the brilliance is just is in there anyway this is a movie that you will go see yeah uh it's two hours and 54 minutes you guess oh i was coming out you know who was barreling into the movie theater um right after me with her husband to go see it Elizabeth Banks and her husband celebrity sighting she was buzzing right by i texted her to see if she'll you know give me her thoughts on it but you know make sure you have time for a little shard or a coffee afterwards with whomever you're going because it's a talker it's something to talk about you gotta see it you gotta see it to believe it it is uh like again billy going back to Telluride i remember uh you know uh you called me when i was in my car driving back to la from telluride i know i drive i know you're in the car i was in the car and you were asking me about it because everybody was talking about it and again you know that screening and it was completely full there were a lot of people who did not get in so i was like felt really lucky that i did but you know here you have all these seasoned hardened you know jaded press people journalists and as we're all walking out we're all like what the heck did i just watch you know and you know i've seen it again i went over the you know over the weekend to see the movie again and so just to wrap my head around it better and it's uh i'm glad i saw it again but for everybody watching uh hot mics here with billy bush you've got to see this movie for yourself and be part of this conversation you don't want to miss out you don't want to feel the FOMO like what are these people talking about true you're comments down here there's my you know there's uh karen she says elizabeth holmes tech is impossible oh she had a question there before um fire away your questions in the chat section elizabeth holmes tech is impossible there's no way you can run all those labs on a drop of blood from her nano technology she says you absolutely can she's going right back at it she said there was nothing wrong i mean her denial is crazy you're just gonna want to be like wait what and then she's so good at it she plays innocent so well you're like is she right no no that's the thing billy that's the thing i'm watching my line like she she is a narcissist she is a manipulator she manipulated all those people who who bought into her charm and you know she's a she's a uh great she's a con artist i'm looking at my cat's name is karen and uh that person wrote she's a con artist she is a con artist she's one of the best con artists to to you know of the 21st century because of the uh all the money that she duped out of investors and you know even when the thing wasn't working you know she kept going with it i mean it's incredible how people just bought into you know even when it wasn't working she'd say no george schultz you know jim mattis all these great big men you know what's funny is the men men just caved to this young blonde woman with a deep voice who the white eyes i can't tell so someone else from paulina buckles 2310 wrote she's a sociopath uh i i mean a sociopath and a narcissist i mean they i feel like they kind of go hand in hand when trying to describe elizabeth holmes i just you know my opinion my opinion after watching this movie twice now is that she's off her rocker um but she's also she's also really smart and she knows what she's doing and the question is if people want to believe her then that just makes her all the smarter i'll say one thing though for her yeah she has something she's lost it all she's in jail she's lost everything but she has something that everybody's searching for in this life mance and that is what is a beautiful because it comes around she has love and this is crazy amanda seyfried plays a valuable she is the messenger she's carrying what every woman is going to feel about billy evans they're going to this guy is disgusting he's a spangali type of a guy he's got a grip over her he's crazy he's got power of attorney over her this is every woman's biggest nightmare is an over-controlling guy that takes over your life and bankruptly i mean and and amanda is really good at communicating that and then in the end there's a little thing where there's somebody out there for all of us and these two are two peas in a pod they have love in the end billy you're just like well you're right you know like there really is somebody out there for everybody there's everyone's got someone out there just got to find him or or in between that 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