Assessing the top NBA player currently: Insights from Kris London and D’Vontay Friga
Oct 20, 2026
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Come on bro. Let's not forget how good Giannis is.
Middleton. He was an all-star. Listen listen
to the first three letters Mo. Mid.
That's all I'm gonna say. We re-asked this question. Who is
the best player in the NBA right now?
This is dropping dimes. Let's talk about it. Straight
away I mean the best player in the NBA hands down is Nikola Jokic.
That man. I will say I'm just
gonna say it now i was a hater
but after this postseason i am no longer a hater i i just want
to put an apology out there Jokic i'm sorry i didn't believe in you
but now i bow i bow to you
and i just i love your game i love watching him play basketball why
were you a hater though
that's the real because he was too damn good
and i just thought you know this guy like i i i didn't
understand him but when you really like get
to know like see his personality more which I think
the NBA did a better job this season showcasing that a little bit more
or the media even and you
know I was like okay maybe he's just a guy just doing his job
and he's a family man and I gotta
respect that I don't know if just
because like I'm a new dad maybe I have a different perspective on
things that could be it
and so I looked at him through a different lens and I was like let me
watch this basketball game without an inch of hate in my heart
when i'm just like because i'm salty
like he would just dog everybody you know
so it's just like i'm on the other side now and i just
think like overall game like right now it's just dude
if you want if you need a passer he gets
people open he makes people better um he he makes
the perfect reads it's crazy he can shoot a three
like i don't i dude what can he not do i answer
that what can he not do you ask any like old
person who the best players are it's always somebody
who's like dumb tall you know makes
sense because they were so dominant right
and i'm glad we're kind of seeing that come back right now
with like Giannis' skill with his size
and Jokic's skill with his size, um what's interesting to
me about Jokic man is like if you just saw him walking
on the street obviously besides the height
Like, you just wouldn't think twice about him being, like, you know,
able to average a triple-double, like, postseason, do all that.
But, yeah, I mean, my vote for—my vote's Nikola Jokic if I
was going to pick anybody up in the NBA to win a basketball game.
Which is—I don't want to say it's a hard decision, but it's not.
Who makes it hard?
Only because, like, okay, it's like—
Yeah, who makes it hard for you guys?
I'm curious.
Like, where's the difficulty here?
so I'm having trouble with just the fact
that like he doesn't give off basketball player to me
you know what I'm saying but like
who is the best player in the league I'm gonna say Jokic right it
just it's so difficult because uh like he's just
not he's just not typical like oh I can dribble
the ball over here and take this shot over here
and he's not like a shot maker but he does
everything like you said Chris like you need somebody
that's going to give you 12 assists
boom you want him to also have 15 rebounds done you want him
to have 25 as well cool you know
you know what's interesting about Jokic too is like I swear
when you're watching him he looks
dog tired like he just looks so tired and gas
but the gas never stops this man averages 42 minutes
a game and then at the end
of the game he looks like hey I could have gone 10 more minutes you
know like his cardio is insane but he
when like you said, Frigga, it's like when you look at him
it's like all right this guy once he goes up
and down 10 times he's he's gonna be calling for a
sub so you know yeah
so it's like it's that's that's another thing that's impressive to me
when you like watch him
because you're like wow like how is he able to just keep going you know
and it almost makes me like I would be so interested
in his workout routine too like now
like i want to learn more about him like what
his tendencies are off the court like i've heard
stories where he can you know he just shows up does his thing
and then he's going home to his
horses you know like there's been off seasons where like
the team just doesn't see him what's
super interesting about Jokic
and what separates him from the normal star is obviously like he
doesn't look like a hooper he looks like he works
at a meat processing factory or like he's at a
horse stable area he looks like
a lumberjack like he just don't look like he does the traditional
he doesn't look like the traditional nba player
and also his game speaks loudly to that as well
like oh he's so unique yeah one thing on speaking right
his game speaks for him clearly there's one
thing i think he could improve on and is it's
his post-game interviews you know it's like it
we'll be like you know wanting
this championship motivating like post-game championship speech
this guy just said yep yeah i i uh good job i love i love
that though bro it's like you it's
it's it's the humble you know
but it's like it's almost too humble for me to like really just come
on give me give me something
a little more extra get me going you know it's like but i respect it
you know but that's the thing where i'm like
in the culture that we are in we kind of touch on
this a couple episodes ago like we're used
to people talking at a talk we grew up with the
Kobes and the MJs of the world
and Nikola Jokic is over here after he won an NBA championship he
asked the PR lady, "Oh, when's the parade? Oh, it's on Thursday"
or whatever, I want to go home, you don't
see that like he just want to go home
and chill ride his horses feed his ponies and all that
that's just some, I think that's a part
of the reason why people do not see Nikola Jokic
inspirational or like not even relatable in a sense
or whatever but I think that at the same
time that's like the beauty in him
in something like him I think a lot of people a lot of players
in the NBA what they talk about
and what they do and why they get to the NBA some people get to the
NBA for the wrong reason yeah they love the game yada yada
but like I feel like this man really
just loves basketball happened to get to the NBA plays
the game exactly how you're supposed to play
and just works hard and ends up being one of the better players
I feel like his morals are right
and he understands what his real life is.
You mentioned a second ago, Chris, NBA did such a good job
showing his personality off the court too.
And I can second that too because for some reason I was looking up
a few months ago, just looking up the video of when they delivered
his MVP trophy years ago back in his hometown
I was like, why am I looking this up right now?
you know yeah chilling with his horses
and I guarantee you that trophy is just somewhere
lost in a garage and he he does
not care he might like you know make it a little i don't know
doorstop or something like so quick question just out
of curiosity before Jokic who do you think
was the best player in the NBA Steph Steph Curry i would argue
um i think just someone that is like
the fact the it factor for a team you know
and i'm just talking maybe in the last like you know
four years right because you know LeBron before
that what that was that it was LeBron's league
but past LeBron i i could argue Curry
and i mean Giannis i mean he's just been he's just been so
dominant yeah i just i just think on the the skill like Giannis
is but he has a god-given gift and
skill of like you know the athleticism and the the length
and you know just all around it's hard
for me sometimes when you know his shot just isn't there
which is good because he has a he hasn't
reached his like ceiling yet whereas Curry you
could argue like he's kind of like reached that
ceiling i don't really see where he could fill
like how much more he could fill in his game
let's pivot you mentioned LeBron
and i think this is a fantastic transition to ask you guys
who is your NBA GO who is the greatest player
of all time a lot of people have very very hot
takes when it comes to this and i want to hear
y'all's i could predict it but to be honest i
want you guys to really get into it
to it yeah i mean it's tough like i'm from Cuyahoga Falls
which is like five minutes from Akron Ohio it's always
been LeBron for me but then i actually like
gave it some thought the last few weeks
because i saw this video online i can't remember who was
being interviewed but they were like i can't say michael's
the greatest of all time i can't say
lebron's the greatest of all time
because like they didn't play in all time and i think it's
like the era's totally like different maybe
so um i'm just gonna tell you lebron because that's like
the best answer i can give you i know it sounds cliche
but i mean cliche for a reason i'm also
like literally like have these big windows right next
to me i can see akron right now so
it's in his blood you're the wrong it would almost
be disrespectful for me to be inaccurate
and say something else too uh you say
that as if like lebron fan club is outside of your door
waiting for you to say something
so if you need help i'll be right out there no um
no i think like the goat talk is obviously subjective
in the sense of like you like
Freaka said you really won't know
because they didn't play in the same eras or the same time so
it's hard to really have that debate
but I always like to think of it like this right as a as a
human being we we evolve over time
so it's almost inevitable for some somebody now to be better than
somebody then right because just
as a human nature like we evolved like you're seeing literal 10 year
olds doing east bays and warm-ups like
when i was playing that wasn't a thing so for someone to
argue like oh LeBron isn't better than Jordan you're just like you
were probably around watching
Jordan like you probably physically went
to a Michael Jordan game like I didn't have that
pleasure right so I might be a little biased
but I just go off of just like just statistically and
factual LeBron James is the best ever like
the GOAT of the game basketball but as a like a
competitor and what Michael Jordan brought
for the influence of the game I think really he's the GOAT
of that like for example like
when you think basketball right there's probably two names
you you think of automatically Michael Jordan
and LeBron James right or Kobe but I think worldwide
It's Michael Jordan right now because the the Jordan sneakers
like there's so many things off the court that Jordan has done
because of his game and
You could argue like that's what makes him like
the goat like the basketball goat
But if we're going off of like the goat
of who can play better the game of basketball better
LeBron James just all around is just
a better player like he can pass the ball. He can shoot
He can he's the clutchest player ever like
statistically you could see you could argue like just
because maybe Jordan was
more flashy with his clutch points
but LeBron James has more clutch buckets so
he's just a clutch more clutch player
so it's just like I don't like to argue too
much on it because statistically like
the numbers don't lie and you could say
oh well six and oh versus like what
is LeBron's record like four and eight or
Four and six, four and seven, four and seven,
regardless, the man has made it to 10 NBA
finals, right?
Which is more impressive, I'd argue,
than like not going to 10 finals, going to six
finals.
Yes, you won all six,
but like he went to 10 and then look at the teams he's carrying,
right?
And then who was the favorite in the finals?
LeBron, I think, was favored twice out of those 11, 10 times.
um and only like he won one of them lost
the other to touch back to what you guys said
holistically speaking like you're meant
to be better in every single way imaginable like as
human beings that's like me comparing oh what's better
this 1999 BMW versus this 2024 BMW that's
exactly like it's like bro for nostalgia reasons it
was really good for its time but right now like
you know you can't really compare
the two it's really hard to so many things are different
three-pointer was not as emphasized back
then there's the uh there's so many defensive rules
that has changed then compared to now
so it's a whole different conversation when you when it
comes to arguing who is better
when you apply like all the little things that have changed
as the years has gone on so overall i feel like
it's just like you know it's very objective people
like to the keyboard warriors like to fight a lot
this is what they do for a living um so it's it's
it's just it's an interesting conversation
but i ain't gonna lie you caught me i am a lebron fan
frega i was getting ready to send some of my people
at your front door if you if you would
have said something else this is the perfect transition
to the next segment it is tiktok time
which player has potential
to be better than lebron james all time i'm gonna name him i'm
list them all right
this is a very short list Victor Wembanyama I I don't think so no no no
no i'm gonna say no no no why i hope he's i hope
he stays healthy he's it's not even a health
situation for me it's like okay size cool whatever
but like the just overall domination of your
competition like lebron's been doing that since he
was 13 14 Wembanyama like yes he's playing
with grown men you could argue since he was like 16
but he wasn't dominating like as to the point
where he's averaging 20 10 and 5 right like lebron
was doing that where he played so i just i i'm not
sold yet Luka Doncic you're we're talking
about lebron here mo yeah yeah there's just
no luca has the as the skill potential
to be better than lebron better than lebron
no you know why he's already longevity longevity you got
to think like these guys got to be able
to compete at a high level at a goat level
for 20 straight years like luca already he already
said in an interview he already said like i'm
not playing more than 15 seasons so he's already
clocked out i love that i love that answer all right
which all-time duo is better KD and
Curry versus LeBron and D-Wade?
I would go KD and Curry
Yeah, yeah, it's KD and Curry, man
I mean, you saw it.
You're saying D-Wade can't hold his weight?
I actually don't want to give that answer,
but I just feel like if we're playing today.
No, listen, what we saw, though, to debate that,
we saw prime KD and prime Curry play together.
We didn't see a prime D-Wade and prime LeBron James.
So I don't care what anyone says.
that was not prime D Wade
when they were playing together this man like was struggling to stay in
front of people like because of his knee injuries like like come
on this wasn't '06 Wade playing with
LeBron all right like nah but if that was i'd still pick Curry
and KD so yeah all that just
to agree all right Giannis and Chris Middleton versus Jokic
and Murray come on bro let's not
forget how good Giannis is Middleton he
was an all-star listen listen to the first a little
listen to the first three letters mo mid that's all i'm gonna say
oh wow he was an all-star though Jamal Murray wasn't an all-star
and look where he is he's a
champion 30 and 10 who cares i i'm a huge
Jokic uh believer i i'm Jokic and Jamal
Murray over Chris Middleton
and Giannis for sure wow yeah i agree with you guys you guys 100 right
on that debate there you're playing devil's advocate over here
which nba legend is better
all time CP3 or Russell Westbrook all time i'm
sorry Chris Paul like i i'm going Chris Paul
Westbrook i love him right he's been great
but chris paul there was debates for years
who's better darren williams
or chris paul best point guard in the in the league right i just
haven't like even though westbrook won mvp there
was still like debates you weren't fully confident
that Westbrook was the best point guard in the league, right?
So that's my argument there.
I am going to say the opposite.
I'm going to say Russell Westbrook.
I know a lot of you, I know last episode you guys were on me
about saying Russell Westbrook about something.
But no, I think Russell Westbrook all time is better than Chris Paul.
And I know there's been a lot of Russell Westbrook slander lately, but.
Lately?
The last five years.
Five years?
Since he left OKC
It's been chalked
Five years
Kids have been calling his kids Westbrook
Can you imagine that
Can you imagine someone
Walking up to both of you guys
You guys are new fathers congrats
I pull up to the school the next day and say who said it
Point to it
Russell Westbrook leads the league
In triple doubles like all time
Yes but
But it's like
For what though
for where like i know what like none of them have a ring right
but you're right okay i could you
could argue he do got an mvp he do they both ringless
so the mvp moved me i'm sorry next
which nba legend is better cp3
or harden give me harden harden man i just i just feel like
recency bias is making me say harden
but a part of me it's just like like let's give it five more
years and then come back to this conversation
because you got to remember Chris Paul's on that last
leg of retirement
and he's played for a minute
I mean was he what a couple years after
LeBron like
I'm going to just say Harden
I like that answer
yeah I think James Harden
which NBA celebration is
better LeBron chest pound
versus Carmelo three to the head
I do three to the head way more often than
the chest pound so
I think
I think Mello's more.
I think that's just so, you know.
Everyone does it.
Yeah.
Also, it's like, yeah, it's more relatable.
Like, people can actually, like,
not everyone's doing a little stomp over.
Sometimes my rhythm be off, and I'm over here,
like, looking awkward doing it, you know?
Yeah, nobody got that thing over chest like that.
If I do that, I might have an asthma attack.
Yeah, for sure, I agree.
Harden, James Harden, cooking versus Curry's Night Night.
i like the night night for sure yeah i like
the that's actually kind of tough i say the cooking
i feel like the night night's kind of corny
that could be, i mean i feel like i feel like
Harden retired it though, if he would have kept it kept it going maybe
but i think the night night
it's like i might have to take my answer back, i take mine back
because like just just like doing
the cooking just reminding like reminding
your opponent like yeah i'm cooking you right now like
I don't know.
That's hard.
I don't know.
That's hard.
That's Harden.
Harden.
All right.
That's going to do it.
I'm Christopher London with Moe and Frigga,
and we just dropped some dimes.
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We out.
Peace.

