Warrior Women: Courageous Voices

Today's podcast is brought to you by the Herzog Foundation. Steak healthy, ivermectin healthy, cigars, there's no way they can be really healthy, right? Well, Dr. Gina Loudon from Real America's Voice says that science reveals that they are, and you won't hear that in the mainstream media. Then a mom shares an unbelievable foster care story. That plus so much more is coming up next. This is the Moms for America podcast. Each week, leaders and everyday champions tell personal stories, share advice, and tackle the issues most important to moms. Hi moms, I'm Debbie Krulat. It's your host and welcome to the Moms for America podcast. So glad that you're joining us again this week. And if you're joining us for the very first time, special welcome to you. Every week we get together to inspire, encourage, and educate moms in their journey through motherhood. Alrighty, onto today's program. We are bringing you three terrific CPAC interviews today. First is my wide ranging conversation with Dr. Gina Loudon, who happens to be a really good friend of Moms for America, and you may know her as Dr. Gina. We talked about everything from adopting special needs kids to the importance of voting, and of course, cigars. Alrighty, here's our conversation. All right, we've got another mama in the seat who happens to be a recipient of our Mothers of Influence Award from Moms for America. Just want to get that out there. Dr. Gina Loudon is in the seat here at Moms for America, the podcast. Thank you, Dr. Gina, for joining us. It's such a pleasure because I am an addicted watcher of this program. I can't miss it. I love it. You have such an energy. I just love it. So thanks for having me. This is really fun. So fun. My maiden voyage. Yes. And I want to say what an honor that is to have someone else that's in the industry say that to you, because if you're not catching Dr. Gina, she is the host of Real American Voice, American Sunrise. What is that on? We've got to make sure we've got the right time for everyone. Oh, you're so sweet. Well, it's 8 to 10 Eastern, so central time. It's 7 to 9 every single morning. I call myself the pre-game show for Steve Bannon. And he gets mad at me for that. He's like, you're nobody's pregame. I'm like, yeah, I'm happy to be your pregame, Steve. So good. Well, you do such a great job as well. There's so much greatness to talk about here because you're a mama. You've adopted a special needs baby. You know, real quickly, could you just introduce us to your family? Because God's blessed you with such a great little tribe over there. Thank you. Yes, he has. Thank you. I have five children, as you said, one by the blessing of adoption that happens to have Down Syndrome. As you mentioned, I think adoption is the best thing in the world. We had National Down Syndrome Day just last week. It's a big celebration. Sammy actually has his new book out called How Sammy Sees the World. Oh, I love that. You can get that anywhere, Amazon, whatever. And anyway, it is so special to see life through his eyes because, you know, I come home from work, I'm frazzled. I'm thinking about all the things that don't actually matter. And he's thinking about what does matter every single day. It's such a blessing. Yes. And we call him the heart of our family because he truly is. And it's just been so amazing. And what that has done, and I knew this somehow, like intuitively, God inspired me that to adopt a special needs child was going to make better children of my other children. Oh, I'm sure. I had comments to the contrary. A lot of people said, but you had such a nice family picture. I never spoke to that person you know, things like that. And I'll tell you what, he is just sunshine and the sweetest boy and such a heart for Jesus. And it's just it's such an honor to be his mom. It's an honor to be all of their moms. We always tell everybody, Sam's the only normal one for sure. Only normal. I love that. And you're so right, because, you know, in a family unit, the more kids we have, the more that God ordains, the better we all are. Right. Your kids share better. They become better people because they have siblings. Yeah, we're better females. We're better women because we're mothers. We're better women because we're wives. I mean, all of these relationships really help us become so much better in the eyes of the Lord. And just I mean, we're always on this journey of doing better and growing. And we don't want to be what we were. We want to be where we're going. Yeah, exactly. That's such a great point. And I think one of the things that is so amazing is how your children grow, how they absolutely just sculpt you. You know, and one of the things I noticed about my children, and we are not a perfect family. Let's get that right out there. I don't ever want to be the Instagram of people out here telling, acting like my life is perfect because it certainly isn't. But with all the wrinkles and all the things that happen in a family, I can say that from a young age, I noticed my children would talk to anyone. They were not and they would not just talk to them. You know, if there's a person with any disability, whether it's some sort of injury or whatever, my children are going to be the ones that go up and greet that person. And that's no credit to me at all. That's credit to Sam and God who inspired that adoption. So it really, it rounds them out in ways that are really special. So people all the time will say things like, it's really great that you adopted a special needs person. And I say to them, no, it isn't. No, it isn't. First of all, I know families that have adopted like 25. So I'm, I'm literally just a little tiny splash. And secondly, it was just the divine nature of God and how he whispers in your ear so clearly, but you know, we fought for 10 years to adopt a child with a special need and we wanted to save a baby from abortion. And so for 10 years, and this is all in my book, Mad Politics that I wrote a couple of years ago. For 10 years, we tried to adopt and I would, I was so dumb. I would call around to Planned Parenthood and say, Hey, and I would send him my little booklet with pictures of our family and our pets and our house and our parents and all that, you know, see, we're a nice family. You know, when you adopted a child to us with Down syndrome, well, for 10 years, no calls. Finally, one day the little girl that answered the phone at Planned Parenthood said to me, we're not in the business of adoption. You can stop calling. So true. Now that you think about it, it took me 10 years, right? Because they're in the, in the business of aborting the babies, killing the babies. They don't want to save the babies. You know how many poor mamas probably went in there and didn't want to abort that baby. Didn't know what to do. They would have known that they would have known. And they would have really thought if we have a special needs child, who's going to want it, right? That's what they think, because that's what society has told us. Well, I'll tell you something. There's a 300 person waiting list for children with special needs. Wow. I have a rock star friend of mine and she adopted four special needs children. She is a rock star. All of you are. And to watch people, well, God, God places different things on our hearts. He does. That is so true. And, and, you know, sometimes I guilt myself going, wow, I didn't do this, or I see this one doing this. And then I've got to rest in who God is calling us to be. But I just, I marvel at folks that really, you know, have stepped out and, you know, have feeding tubes on these children. And I'm like, how does she do this? And she goes, you know what? I would love a home just for special needs kids that I could do ministry to. And so. It's a God call. It's a God call. And to the moms, whatever your God call is, run into it because he calls us all to greatness within our homes and our communities. So, all right, let's talk real quick about cigar, steak, and ivermectin panel. I mean, this has got to probably be the most interesting panel title at CPAC. Did you come up with this title? No, Matt Schlapp named this panel. Matt and I share a love for cigars. Okay. And because, and I can't say that I ever really liked cigars before, but when I started reading about the health benefits of nicotine. Oh, my husband will be really glad to hear this. It prevents Alzheimer's and dementia. It prevents some forms of diabetes and heart disease. The research is just exploding on how all the things we've been told were bad for us. Cigar, steaks, and ivermectin, right? Are actually all good for us in many cases, not every case. Now, so I thought, you know what? I want to bring a clean, organic cigar to the market. Because there are bad cigars. Well, I mean, yeah, you can put fillers and all the things in it. Right. But yours is not. I just launched this line. I actually launched it at Mar-a-Lago a couple of weeks ago. So fun. And it's called Dr. Gina Wild Child Cigars. And they are clean. They're aged four years, so there's no acidity. And they're dipped in my organic whiskey, which is another thing, another company, and Stolach. And that makes them as healthy as a cigar can be. These are. Oh, how exciting. The cool thing is that the research is now confirming what many of us knew. I mean, we kept hearing how bad cigars were for us. And we're watching George Burns live for 120 years. Oh, yeah. We're like, you're biblical, man. And all he did was smoke. So we knew, you know, a lot of us have been looking at all this for a long time. A lot of maybe there wasn't all the chemicals back then. It wasn't so processed. It wasn't filled with poison. That's really true. You know, because looking at even our food, I mean, we're talking about the evolution of food and chemicals and pesticides. And everything has become so compromised that if we can go back to the original, the natural state, I mean, that's where we got to go, right? Almost all the time. Not all the time. Not all the time. There are certain things you're going to need an antibiotic or a surgery for. But things like giving birth, that can be done more safely at home. The statistics say you're more likely to get an infection if you give a birth in a hospital. That's something we've known for a long, long time. And yet, the American Medical Association and the big lobby, they don't want you to know this. The cigar, cigarette companies don't want you to know about cigars because they don't make money off of them. They don't. There's just a lot of things. You got to go to your local farmer to get your food and you got to eat your eggs and your, you know, all the clean organic stuff. And it really is. It's such a great day, though. What I'm so happy about is that for two things. One, we are free enough here at the CPAC to say this. Yes. Because four years ago, had we said this, we would have been shut down for saying cigars are healthy, ivermectin is healthy, eating steak is healthy. Yeah. We would have been shut down for that. Right. And the other thing I'm really happy about is that the real science is actually coming out. Isn't that incredible? We're going to be learning amazing, surprising things every single day because now we're reading real science, not science funded by the American Medical Association who is arm in arm with big pharma, who is arm in arm with environmentalist pesticides, all the rest of it. So so it's a good day. It's a good day. Yeah. I love that. Thank you to Secretary Kennedy and the administration for, you know, helping us understand this. I think moms and we right. We buy 90 percent of everything in our household, maybe even ninety nine percent. You know, we're always wondering, is this safe? Is this secure? Are we be told are being told the truth? Is this healthy for our family? Yeah. And now the conversation is allowed to happen and research is allowed to be reviewed. Yeah. Yeah. So another great place that we are are on because my husband had been a concern of yours as well. Right. Absolutely. I think what you said about just kind of going back to the fundamentals, that's what I've kind of been emphasizing. I did a children's book on how the Ten Commandments is really just so foundational for us to to really incorporate the fundamentals of life into every day. And it doesn't even matter what it is. You know, it's a it's it's it's a matter of looking at what we agree on. Right. And this is especially important before the midterm. So we're going to have to be talking about what we agree on a lot as as MAGA conservatives. But looking at what we agree on and working toward that end, because we can probably find a million things we disagree on. Yeah. But the important things. Right. We totally agree on. And I think that that's I'm challenging moms. Yes. Go on. Bring it, girl. Come together. Yeah. And I know that there are nuances about the war and about Epstein and all the things. And I'm very passionate on one side of each of those things. But let's look at four just for the midterms. Let's look at what it's going to look like if we don't win. Yes. How many of the other things that we care about a lot will never be touched if we don't win. Wow. So it is going to be tragic if we don't hold on to or gain. Why why do you think women are not in the election game? I should say, for lack of a better term, it's not of interest to everyone or if they've just kind of abandoned it or they feel so offended by it, or maybe they just don't know where their vote goes. I mean, Dr. Gina, we've got evangelical women that aren't voting, who are Bible believing women, who are conservative, that are pro life, that are parents and family and God, and they just don't go out. And it baffles me. When my husband was running for office, one of my girlfriends, whose husband had also run before my husband, she goes, I just want to warn you of one thing. She goes, I don't want you to be devastated when you figure out that no one from your church actually went and voted. And I thought, you're kidding me. Well, there's a Pew Research poll that says 70% of those whose backs occupy the pews on Sunday don't show up in the general election. That means the numbers in the primary election, which is actually way more important than the general election, are even more abysmal. Shame on us. And you know what? I'm not going to blame men and I'm not going to say it's because women don't feel like they have a voice. I'm not going to do that. We're not victims. We are perfectly capable. If you care about your children's future, not only will you vote, you'll support organizations like Moms for America, critically important. You'll support the parallel economy of conservative entrepreneurs who are trying to compete with the people that have lied to you for all these years. You'll support candidates by getting in on the grassroots level during the primary when it matters. And then, of course, voting. Those are all really critical things. And I think we have to wake up to that. We made a huge difference in Donald Trump's election. We really did. We can't stay home this time. We can't do it. No matter how mad you are. I don't care if you don't like Donald Trump anymore. Donald Trump's not on the ballot. You go vote for the person that most fits your values. That's what you have to do. That is our mantra, is vote your values. Because if you don't, someone's going to vote their values. That's exactly right. And if you don't speak up, somebody else will. And liberal women vote five times as much as conservative women. That makes me so upset. It's sickening. Yeah. And then we wonder, we stand around and go, oh, why is our country such a mess? And why are they erasing women? Or why are they rewriting us? Or why are they redefining us? That's actually how I found Moms for America 2017, is when the Women's March came out so strongly. I mean, it was always a conservative. I was always an activist and helping. But I was like, I cannot take these crazy ladies out there, deciding that they're going to speak for all women. And they do it so boldly. And they really feel like they own the entire market. And I'm like, Moms, that's not us. That's not me. That's not my neighbor. That's not my family. That's not my church. And so that's really how Moms for America, I mean, it's been around for 21 years, but that is really in the forefront of what happened to make it explode. Because it was like, hey, is this where you think America's going with the female vote and the female influence? And it's not. Yeah. And that's why, honestly, the name Moms for America is so perfect, because it's not Moms for a particular candidate. It's not Moms for a particular issue, even. It is Moms that are fighting for the future of America. And if you're a mom, you better be doing that. Right. Because you really have no more important role. I mean, God blessed us with such an amazing country. Thank you, Lord. And it is in our hands. And it's always going to be the moms that are going to stand in that gap and really make sure that our children, you can give them all the love and attention. And I know people who did this. I talked to a woman who was a Holocaust survivor early on in my career. Her name was Kitty Wertheim. And she was a Holocaust survivor. And she said she remembered being five years old and she was in all the perfect piano lessons, etiquette lessons. Her mother dressed her. She went to private schools. She had an amazing life. And she said she remembered sitting there saying, Mommy, how did this happen? Why didn't you tell? Why weren't we fighting so this wouldn't happen? We don't ever want to be that mom. Right. That struck me from the moment I heard it and followed me every single day of my life. And I'm just so thankful to be in this country where we can disagree. We don't have to be owned by our disagreements. Right. We can disagree and we can be above that because we're united on what matters. That is Poms for America, the future of our children. Well, I know there's a little bit of music behind us, but I feel like this is a perfect backdrop of the national anthem for you to tell us what's the message for America's 250th anniversary. I mean, right now it's like you hear the anthem behind us. We're celebrating 250 years, Gina. What's the message and what do we have to say to our kids about honoring America and reclaiming it and honoring it? Well, I'm probably a lot older than you, so you probably don't remember the bicentennial, but I do. I was five years old at the time and I got to be in our bicentennial play at the high school and I got to wear a little bonnet and I felt like Laura on Little House on the Prairie. So this was a big moment for me. And I completely that changed my life. That changed the trajectory of my life because forever I understood what is amazing about America because I was part of telling this story. Make your children part of telling this story. And in our new book, Days of Creation by Heart, Dr. Jim Moseley, who's a Bible history guy, we call him on Rav when I do my show, he comes on our show every week. We wrote this book together and it's all about helping children understand and be able to tell the story of creation instead of just hearing it from us. Help them be able to tell it. There's nothing that helps you better than when you have taught something. So we teach them. We let them teach us. We let them teach us. We challenge them to teach their friends. So your point is teach and train our children and when we teach and train our children, they teach and renew even in our hearts and minds. And their friends and the teachers in their lives. They need to see life as a mission field like we do. And our only mission is not just to teach our kids. I lied to myself about that for a long time because I did not want to be involved in politics. So I told myself my husband was a senator. I'm like, you know, he can go do his thing and I've got my little army I'm raising up and they're going to be such great little citizens that I will have done my, that will have been my contribution. Right. And then God woke me up when Obamacare passed and I realized there may not be an America if I don't get out there and fight. Yeah. And that's what every mom needs to realize and to teach their children that even you can fight. Yeah. I heard the greatest story today. I interviewed a guest. I wish I could think of his name right now. I'd never met him before. He's a pastor. He was a big time football player of some sort. I'm not a big football NFL person either. I do like the SEC, but that's a different matter. Um, and he told me that there was a janitor in his school. He had been arrested twice. He was a lost cause, right? And there was a janitor, woman janitor in his school that told him, God sent me a message. You're going to change the world. Oh, and now he's got this book. He's got this movie. He's telling his story. He's going to change the world. We don't know. We might, you might think because you're a janitor in a high school that your, your mission field doesn't exist or that you're all about watching other people's mission fields. Yeah. But he told me that today and it struck me so hard. Like, wow, it doesn't matter where we are, who we are, you know, when God tells you, go, go. Yeah. Well, now, now we've got worship music behind us. So now as you're talking about God, giving a calling to someone about it, about their mission and about what God is calling you to do. We've got worship music playing behind us. It was really nice of them to accompany us like this today. I mean, it's like they're writing our script. Dr. Gina, thank you for your encouraging words. I adore you guys. I do too. I appreciate you so much. I'm so proud of everything you guys have accomplished. It's such an honor to be with you. Catch Gina every morning, sunrise on Rev. American sunrise, real American's voice. I'm before Steve Bannon. Okay. And how do I get cigars from my husband? It's drginawildchildcigars.com. It's so new. I don't even know the website yet. Well, we can look it up. All right. Thank you, Dr. Gina. Thanks for having me. Did you catch that statistic moms? Liberal women vote five times more than conservatives. That is alarming. We moms, we must turn that statistic on its head and we've got to get to the polls and we need to vote our values starting with this year's midterms. And this midterms may be more important than the presidential election in 2028. So please think about this and let's get to the polls and make of utmost importance for us and our families. All right. Coming up, a mom tells us a disturbing story of what happened when child protective services took her child away and put him in foster care. You won't believe this. Hi moms. I'm excited to share some news about our new sponsor, the Herzog Foundation. 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So go ahead, visit HerzogFoundation.com to learn more. You won't want to miss these incredible resources. Again, find it all out at HerzogFoundation.com. Welcome back moms. Before we continue with our interview, I do want to remind everyone to please like, subscribe, and share. Like, subscribe, and share our podcasts with the moms in your group. This is how we get our information out. These are always very, very interesting stories of moms and dads making a difference all across this country. So please share this podcast with your friends. Also, if you have an idea or a topic for our podcast, please email me at podcast at momsforamerica.net. I would love to hear from you. And lastly, I want to invite all of our moms that are listening to join the movement here at Moms for America. I really, really hope that you're a part of our tribe. It's moms like us uniting all across the country from coast to coast, fighting for faith, family, freedom, and the constitution. How do you find out about us? Well, it's all free. It's all for you moms. You check us out at momsforamerica.us and take advantage of all the resources we have for you. My next guest is Bailey Templeton. She is a mom with a truly frightening story of what she believed involved a medical trafficking of her child. Another great mom stopped by the booth today and started sharing her story and her concerns on why she's here at CPAC, sharing a very personal message. Bailey Templeton, right? I've got the name correct? Yes, ma'am. Oh, I'm so glad to have you and really to have you share your story. So you're a mom of? I'm a mom of three boys, excuse me. Okay, and their ages are? We age from 13 to 8. 13 to 8, so you're busy. Very busy. I homeschool them too, so it's not a lot of breaks. So being a mama is probably your biggest joy in your life, and I know that you have a special heart for kids. Absolutely. So can you tell us a little bit, we're going to talk about, the topic is foster care and being in the foster care system. So let's share a little bit about your story. Your mom was a part of the foster care system, and then we'll talk a little bit about you. Sure. So my mom was in foster care in the 70s and 80s, so she experienced a lot of group homes and told me a lot about her growing up in that system, and unfortunately she took her life when I was 19 years old because of the trauma she endured in that system. But at 16 years old, the state also took me from my mother, and I had to experience the last two and a half years of my childhood in the state care, and being placed with homes that were not very safe for me as well. I don't think we talk about this enough. Yeah. Because I think everyone assumes foster care is a safe place. Right. And when DCFS comes in and takes away children, which we hear this all the time actually, I just heard two more stories here today, that you know there was an accident in the home, all of a sudden they blame the parents, take the child, or there's an accident in the home, they come in, they take the child, and all these crazy things, and they take the children out, they place them in foster care when there's really not evidence, and then the foster care system is broken, beyond broken I guess you would say in your analogy of it. What did you find foster care system was like? As a child for myself, I felt very bastardized is what happens to these children. They get removed from any social home that they have, or any of their connections that they had. They don't not only lose their family, as in their mom and dad, but they lose their cousins, and their aunts, and uncles, and grandparents in the process too, especially when states aren't enacting the Kindship Act like they should, where they place families together instead of separating them, but what really affected me I think is when the foster care system came for my child. Yeah, so you were in there for two or three years, you probably never thought that the DCF, well we call it DCFS in Illinois, but it's Child Protective Services, whatever all this is, it's different labels around the country, they really do all of a sudden get in everyone's business, and you personally had a child that was sick. Yeah. And what happened there? Again, now when children are sick, or there's an accident in the home, you want to be able to go to the hospital, you want to be able to call a doctor, you want to be able to get anything rectified, especially if they're ill or sick, and we hear that they now start making all these decisions on behalf of the parent. Some variation of that happened to you. Absolutely. So in 2024, my son, my nine-year-old son at the time, he was diagnosed with cancer, and it was a very aggressive bone cancer is what they alleged that we had, but there was multiple different diagnoses at this time, they didn't know which cancer he particularly had, but he had to have a biopsy to get through that. After some not very good experiences in the hospital, and sedations and things like that, I felt very uncomfortable with the doctors we were being sent to, and I wanted to choose one of my own to get a second opinion. Okay, so the mom wants to choose her medical care for her child, sounds very reasonable. Right. But it wasn't. No, so all I wanted was a second opinion before we'd start any treatment, as well as finishing the genetic testing to make sure that these treatments wouldn't kill my son. We know that chemotherapy treatments are extremely deadly, and you only want to use them if you have to. So in my course of trying to get a second opinion, within 25 days they were refusing referrals, they weren't letting us be seen by anyone else, and the state got involved. They lied to the prosecutor in my county and said that my son had been diagnosed for eight weeks and I refused treatment. When documentation proves that that was a lie, they were told by the doctor the day before they told the prosecutor that it had only been 25 days, but they intentionally lied to the prosecutor and started this charge and took my child from me. Within 48 hours I was not allowed to make any decisions for my son's medical care or anything. Where did your child go? When you say they took your child away, what does that mean? Well, they sent police to my house for seven and a half hours outside of my property, screaming at me through the windows, basically telling me I was killing my child while my three sons and I were in our house. And we lived on a farm in the middle of nowhere, we had no neighbors, so a very traumatizing experience happened that night. They loaded him up in an ambulance and took him to the first of three hospitals. They kept him in for 140 days. And were you allowed to see him? The first two and a half months, I was only allowed to see him for four hours twice a week. Who's making the medical decisions? Who's signing off on all this? In Illinois, it's a man named David L. Fox, who is the guardian administrator of Illinois DCFS, who signs all medical decisions. He's in charge of the kids' social security funds. And I just started doing some digging to see exactly how deep this corruption is going within at least Illinois, and then I started in other states as well. It's incredible what happens to parents, how all of a sudden they become, just, they have no say. They just become, they're not a parent. They completely destroy their parental rights. And to have someone else making medical decisions, the child not being with mom, I mean, think about that without family. We've done a couple shows on this, DCFS, Child Protective Services, and the mistakes that they make and the assumptions that they're doing, and then they get in this system and it's days, years, I mean, before you get this rectified. Where are you at now in the process, or can you even talk about all that? Sure. After 140 days of my son being locked in a hospital, we had a joint motion to vacate temporary custody drafted by the prosecutor, my son's lawyer and my lawyer, to try to return my son to me before they were going to do a very extensive surgery on him. Unfortunately, the judge said no and wouldn't give him back to me, so they then went on to amputate my son's leg. And at this point, we couldn't say no, my son couldn't say no. Did you have to sign off on it? We weren't allowed to. The state signed it. The state signed— You don't even get informed consent at that stage. —the amputee of his leg. You showed me that picture, and this little guy is, how old is it at this point? He's 11 now, but at the time, it was two weeks before his 10th birthday that they mutilated him. Shocking to hear. Yeah. And about two to three weeks after the surgery, they finally let him go home, and they placed him in a foster home, quote-unquote, to stay with my best friend, but they allowed me to live there with him, so that's obviously not protocol if I'm an abusive parent to let me stay at the hospital with him and then put me in the home with him. But it was very transactional. After the leg was removed, the case was dismissed with prejudice. So I've taken it to federal court at this time. So what do you think the agenda was? To not go too dark into the details, there's organ trafficking happening with our foster children. It was proven with Fauci when he was testing the AIDS medications on foster children in New York. They used 17,000 foster kids to test AIDS medication, and when the kids realized they were getting sick, they didn't want to take it anymore, so they'd slip it in their food. So they've been using foster children for a long time to violate Nuremberg trial code. When you hear that, probably most people are like, no way. Right. No way does it happen. But the government has done a lot of crazy things. Absolutely. And we find out about it decades later. Unfortunately, in a case like this, not a lot of parents make it out of it. You get a gag order. Once I went public, they gagged me. I wasn't allowed to talk about it. But thankfully enough, people had seen it already. They continued the story and the public pressure. But they've got this set up with the confidentiality and Title IV funding at the federal level where we're not allowed to ask these questions. So I started filing FOIAs to the agencies to ask them the questions they didn't want to answer. And I got a lot of really awful answers from them. Meaning stats that supported your theory? I mean, we're talking about harvesting, but we're also talking about children that are missing. And this probably goes hand in hand. Right. So what are we finding? What did you find that was so disturbing? Sure. I'll just throw out some numbers. It's egregious, but it's easier for me to just throw them out. So we've got 193 missing foster children that went missing in Illinois the year that my son was locked in the hospital. Okay. So almost 200 children. Right. And when asking for these numbers, I filed a FOIA asking very specific— How does a child go missing? What do they say happens? They ran away? They have three categories that they put them through, and it's without known contact, or no, whereabouts unknown, unknown contact, and abducted. That's the only categories they put them into. So we don't have one where runaways are included. So you can't just claim that all of these are runaways, especially when I have the demographic of 30 of these Illinois kids, and there's kids that are toddlers. They don't get up and run away. Oh, good point. And so with these FOIAs, I found the missing children, and I started doing that nationwide. Maryland, for example, has 880 missing foster kids in three years, and more than half of them were girls from the same county in Baltimore County. Wow. And that raises a lot of questions about child sex trafficking. Sure does. On top of that, we've got 20,358 children in the state of Illinois on Medicaid without a registered social security number. And so you've got two sides of the spectrum. The left will scream at me that I don't want kids on healthcare. But after what I experienced, which would be called medical trafficking, where they move a child from one hospital to the next to the next and generate all the Medicaid funding, I wanted to see if this was happening to more kids. So I filed FOIAs about the Medicaid funding to DCFS. In 2019, they received $145,000 in funding for medical procedures through DCFS. And in 2020, that number skyrocketed, or excuse me, 2021, it skyrocketed to $263 million spent on foster kids Medicaid. Like they always say, follow the money. Right. And that's what I've been trying to do, is figure out who made the money off of what happened to my child. So you have to think of the section of his leg that was also removed and where it went. They don't incinerate these things. They go off to medical research. And there's a certain hospital that was involved in my son's case that on their website, it says that tissues and organs taken from these children can be used in products that will be sold. So everything has become a bureaucracy, even our children's lives and their body parts. Unbelievable. And if I remember you saying this earlier when we were talking that in the end of the, does he have cancer now? No, we've, we've had multiple scans and nothing's ever popped up. So my assumption through the lawsuit, we found out there was other differential diagnoses that he may have had, including types of autoimmune disorders. Now my son was vaccine injured when he was 18 months old. He had a seizure. He stopped breathing and had sores all over his body for a year. And I did some research into that. Which made you, you know, be skeptical of everything for him, especially any type of medical intervention. There's some bodies in certain blood types that don't agree. So I wanted that genetic testing. It was so important to me before we did anything else because of his vaccine reaction. But looking into this MMR vaccine, there's been a lot of cases of even servicemen going across seas, getting the MMR vaccine and then getting that same cancer diagnosis in the exact injection spot, which is what's happening to most of these kids. They're getting osteosarcoma in their arm or in their leg. So it raises a lot of questions of what's causing the childhood cancer spike. Sure. How do we fix it? And are they utilizing it to tear apart Christian loving families? Right. Because if you don't play the game and you don't say yes to it, we saw this with COVID. They still start a case on you. Yeah. They start taking your kids away or start threatening or calling you a bad parent. Wow. Right. So what's your advice to moms right now if there's a situation at hand? I don't even know. How can we help with foster kids? There's a couple of things we could do. So first, we need to end the stigma on foster care being protection of the children and in the best interest, because that's not always the case. And there are bad people in every facet of your imagination. And they're going to find positions of power specifically over children. So that would be in your schools. That would be in your hospitals and child protective services and things like that. So what we can do is support those moms and dads who are going through these cases. It's really important that they don't feel like they're alone because they might get a gag order. But it all breaks down to I'm the state organizer of Illinois. You are the power. And what we do is public pressure to change constitutional violations. So why institution? Because our constitution is the greatest protector of all. And they keep trampling on those rights. So what you do in a CPS case specifically, you've got a state's attorney who is an elected official. You've got a judge who is an elected official. And then you've got a state agency that you're dealing with. But if you get enough people to turn on the state's attorney and the judge and say, hey, what are you doing? You can't do this because of the confidentiality. They think they can get away with anything. But they're being lied to by the state agency. Like in our lawsuit, we could have sued the prosecutor for taking my child. But instead, I'm like, no, you were lied to. So you need to help us fix this. And you need to have a change of heart. When we tell people about this, we've changed judges' minds from taking kids. We've changed. We've changed workers, DCFS workers' minds from taking kids because they don't see what's happening. And it says in the Bible, my people perish for lack of knowledge. So what my goal is, is to tell everybody. And what I ask of people is to tell everybody that this is happening. The more we talk about it, the more they have to address it. Yeah. And you know that parents that are watching right now, if they haven't been affected by it, they know someone in their circle that has been affected by the fear of reporting an accident or a medical issue or anything. And that is such a terrible place to be as a parent. Right. And I don't want to blame the mandated reporters either because they are also pretty much blackmailed into doing this and making these calls. So where does it boil down to other than state agency failure and government, the governor's failure to see what's going on, especially with missing kids? And so I just keep digging and trying to pull out enough to get enough attention that someone stops it. And I would like to do this station wide. What we have to do is get FOIAs put in in other states that I don't have access to. But once you start asking these questions, they do retaliate and they do come back and try to take your kids again. So it's they've backed us into a corner. We need an army to fight this and to stop the child trafficking through state funded agencies. Wow, Bailey, thank you for being a warrior. And I mean, again, when you when you come into a mama's home and you try to be the the parent, watch out. Yeah. And so that's exactly what you did. You took it forward and you said, I'm going to expose this. And we there are armies out there. There are moms that are watching today that have a similar story. And I hope and pray that they can get in contact with you. Is there a website or an email? Yeah, you can get me an email at Bailey S. Templeton at Gmail dot com. My website's Bailey Templeton dot nation builder dot com. It's all everything's in my name. My phone number is out there and I'll take any call. Something I do want to stress to people is if you if you need help with a CPS case, it is easier to help you before they've taken your child than it is after because of the laws that we have in Illinois. It's almost impossible for me to help return children. Yeah. So if you think there's going to be a case, if you know somebody who's going to have an open case, you need to have an advocate or a lawyer immediately because they will not tell you what your rights are. Yeah, they sure won't. Thank you for what you're doing. We so appreciate you taking a stand for our kids and for parents. Thank you so much. Again, thank you, Bailey, for stopping by the booth and sharing your story. I am so glad that organizations like you are the power exist to address abusive local governments. So glad you shared that with us. Our final conversation is on a happier note. It's about music. Christina Fontanelli has sung the title roles in operas all across the world. In addition to singing, what drives her is a Christina Fontanelli Foundation. She understands the healing benefits of music and is passionate about bringing this joy to children. Well, we have another incredible guest joining us on the podcast. We have Christina Fontanelli, and I just got to know her today, and she has a great story that she's going to share with us. Welcome to the podcast, Christina. Thank you. Hello. I'm an opera singer from New York City. Well, can we hear that New York accent or what? You need to hear the New York accent. There we go. My voice is taking me all over the world and all over the country. I love it. So tell us how long have you been singing since forever, and what type of music? You just said about opera. A little bit about your background. Okay. So I had the show business bug in me, and coming from an Italian family, my mama had a beautiful voice. I really wanted to go into acting. I graduated from the top acting school probably in the world, the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, and I love acting, and I do that too, but they used to send me little notices, lose 15 pounds, lose... And I said, you know what? I'll be an opera singer. Okay. I can sing, I can act, and I can eat the lasagna. And that's how... I mean, I'm making light of it, but in a way it's really true. Oh, that's so funny. I heard Maria Callas' voice on the radio, the great Greek opera singer, and I got an inspiration to go into the opera field, and I started to study very seriously. I've sung all over the world in opera houses, but I also love to entertain, so I became a crossover singer, and I appeared with Tony Bennett and huge stars all over the country. I love that. Yeah, and I expanded into other areas of show business. I love that. Including PBS television hosting for Andrea Bocelli, and I just love meeting with people, which it's a blessing to be here. I really thank you, Debbie, and Moms for America, because I have traveled all over America, and I have met so many wonderful mothers, and children, and families. Mamas are the heartbeat of our country. We say that everywhere we travel. Sure are, and I do believe they need a lot of support, and they need direction, which is why I'm grateful to be speaking with you today, because I have something to share that I think could be useful. Well, I want to talk. You decided to jump into politics, which, I mean, we're talking about opera to politics. That'll be the title of our segment here, but I also want to talk briefly, before we get into that, also the importance of music. Yes. We know now that this is your passion, but music is a healer. It's a uniter. It helps build stamina, and character in people. You're also doing something with the children, which I think our moms would just love to hear the importance of music with kids. Well, 23 years ago, I had an inspiration to put children on stage, and preserve the great songs that started with Italy. So we have Christmas in Italy. I have a foundation, the Christina Fontanelli Foundation, that's a non-profit, and non is the key word, because I do it from my heart. We've had hundreds of children singing and dancing, even at Carnegie Hall. Oh, how nice. Your moms can get in touch with me if they think they want children, their kids to perform. And also, we're raising awareness of exactly what you're talking about, the scientifically proven healing benefits of the arts. Yes. And we can actually offer your moms a nice little free gift today, if they like it. Okay. I have a very well-written, and for youth, it's youth-oriented PowerPoint, highlighting the benefits, and the scientifically proven healing benefits. Even if you speak into a plant, if you sing or play classical music, the plant will grow better. Human beings are 70% water, and if you speak into water, beautiful snowflake crystals form, white snowflake. If you speak, or sing, or play classical music, if you do anything ugly, bad words, bad music, they become like diseased, almost like a cancerous cell. Wow, look at the effect. We have that in a PowerPoint for any of your moms that we could share it with them. Okay. May I tell them how? Sure. You would text 26786 and use NYNY, New York, New York. Okay. Which will lead to where we can send you the information. So text 26786, use NYNY, New York, New York, NYNY to 26786, and we'll be happy to send you as a free gift in honor of Moms for America. One of my goals was, and thank you for helping me do that, to distribute this knowledge in a way that people could show their kids, their teenagers, you know? Well, let's talk about that. So classical music and just the arts, some schools aren't affording it anymore. Sometimes moms maybe have got to pick between sports and music, and I think every kid has to decide what they're going to do. I mean, where I came from a very musical family and sports, but I always felt like music was so important. You know, it's just, it's so uplifting. And classical music, I guess, too, would be something that maybe has gotten, maybe lost its way a little bit in the schools. Well, I feel that we are definitely losing something that is organic and not expensive to, you know, I don't know who's making the decisions about cutting arts and music, but it's not the proper decision because it's proven to help children learn better. Yes. Proven. It lowers the crime rate. And the way it does that, and it heals adults too. And children are having health issues. For the first time, they're having high cholesterol and because they're on their phones and anxiety. I'm so glad you said that. It's proven that 30 minutes a day listening to classical music will lower your anxiety level. Now imagine the children performing the music, singing it, playing an instrument. If I have more authority, which I'm working on, I hope to bring that awareness, which will push the public discourse about this issue into a better place. Yeah. Well, I would agree with you. Sports are super important, but so is music. It uses a different part of your brain. Sure. And just the fact, I know my brothers were in education. If anyone was in the band or music or theater department or in sports, the odds that that child knew how to work together, meet metrics, meet deadlines, understand the concept of rehearsal, you know, and giving something your all. So music is just such an important part. And I think that, you know, I don't know what's going to happen with AI now because AI is making all the music. I mean, I'm so worried about this. I know. It's really, you know what? We're at Moms for America. I don't worry about stuff. I just like pray about it and try to bring to the table and to the world things that will- I just don't want our artists to lose all that, you know? I'm not concerned. I feel there's going to be a way around it somehow. Nothing can replace true humanity and the soul. And that's how I feel. I mean, maybe I look at the world with rose colored glasses or I wouldn't have stayed in this field. I believe there's still- And speaking of live performance too, that is just another great opportunity for our kids to learn how to perform and how to share. They love it. You know, when I started this, my idea was to, well, I'm Italian American from little Italy, New York City, like that background. You could be a movie. You could write a movie about you, I'm sure. Oh, really? My life is really something. But my idea was to preserve the great Italian songs, you know, like with mandolins and guitar. My vision was to have the children. Not to understanding yet, like how healthy that is for them and how wonderful it is for them. And then when I got, I started getting hundreds of kids, like parents and teachers would write to me and I would ask them, well, what is this doing for your students, your children, your child? And the things they wrote back, giving them, you know- Opportunities. Yes, opportunity, releasing their emotional, you know, lowering their anxiety, creating community because we had children that are now grown up. They're in college. They grew up with us in the chorus and the choir. And we created family moments, like the grandmothers would come and the mothers and the children and the- Anytime your kids are even in a school musical, everybody and their brother are there and you're so proud and just performing, I think is just such an amazing part. And music is so powerful. So thank you for what you're doing there and the gift that you've given. But I do want to just mention this because I said it's from operative politics. I mean, whoa, you never know what anybody's going to do, especially these ladies. You've decided to run for the state assembly in New York. So, whoa. I mean, this is- You're in the belly of the beast, girl. You stole my line. That's what I say all the time. It's the belly of the beast. But you know what? I had a calling. I didn't want to do this. It's not like this was on my bucket list, but I had a calling and I had to step into the water. I ran as a writing candidate for city council in the last fall. And I feel that I cannot, the reason I'm doing it is I just can't sit back and do nothing. And I think that I have a powerful voice. It's part of my slogan, a healing voice for New York. I have- I love that. That's a great idea. No, thank you. And I'm a bit ahead of the game because I'm in the entertainment field, just like you. You know how to interview people and speak on camera and stuff. So, my goal has been to- I love New York City. I'm a true New Yorker, through and through. Born in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn. Oh, wow. My grandparents immigrated from Italy, the true American story. My mother's side's simple. They worked on the docks, like on the waterfront in Hoboken, New Jersey. My father's side, my great-grandfather came from Italy with nothing and rose to being a VIP member. He started buying real estate. Look at that. He became wealthy. He became the first Italian-American presidential elector. And guess what? What? A New York State Assemblyman. Oh, this is like a chip off the old block here. That's my great-grandfather. I love it. And he was so civic-minded that against doctor's orders, he went out to vote at 50 years old. And unfortunately, he passed at 50 years old. He was a mover and a shaker of his day and loved this country, loved the United States of America. I mean, look at that legacy. Look at what they've passed down to each of us. That's why it's so important in our families to teach those principles and to build those foundations. Since I used to love New York like a human being and our great mayor, Rudy Giuliani, I have to say ever since then, it's not as safe, it's not as clean, it's not as prosperous, it's not as anything. And Bloomberg after him. And so I'm giving it my best, what do you call it, New York shot to bring back some of that buzz, make it safer, have a voice on the other side, which we do not have. It's a very one-sided town. You either go with what's going on for years now, or you just don't. But I'm offering another voice, a strong voice. I've got it. It's going to be start spreading the news. That's the beginning of your campaign. Start spreading the news. You're good at this. I know I'm really good at this. All right, Christina, thank you so much for joining us. We so appreciate you and the best of luck. Oh, thank you, Debra. Thank you so much. All right. Well, thank you to our amazing guests. Thank you to Christina Fontanelli, Bailey Templeton, and Dr. Gina Loudon. And thank you to you. Thank you for joining us again this week. Again, we're here every week sharing episodes that encourage moms in their journey through motherhood. And I do want to remind everyone to please stop by Moms4America.us. Check out all our amazing programs, resources, seminars, webinars. We have it all. I say this every week from parental rights to public policy, from the kitchen table to Congress, Moms4America has it all because we are the ultimate support group. So moms, check us out at Moms4America.us. And as always, let's keep changing our country one home at a time. All right, share this podcast and I will see you next week. Thanks moms for joining us. A special thank you to our sponsor, the Herzog Foundation. 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