Friday, Sep 11: Tim Dunn

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A lot of folks with a lot of thoughts, a lot of memories, a lot of feelings about this day and about where we are as a country 25 years later. We're going to talk a lot more about that as we go on throughout the afternoon, I'm sure. Right now that we have with us on the line, Tim Dunn, of course, the political reporter for the, I think it's the, are you the chief or the lead political reporter for the Boston Herald? I know you've got something. I'm the lead, Barry, but you can call me whatever you want. Okay. And everybody's following you. Where are you leading them to? Exactly. Tim Dunn. Yeah, Tim Dunn with us from the Boston Herald every Friday at one o'clock. And we always appreciate Tim making time for us on this day. Tim, 53, 54 days left until election day. Must be pretty busy up around there. Yeah, it's getting close. It's around that. It's getting real busy. We got all these different campaign events and stops and endorsements. I'm trying to figure out all these debate things going on. So it's busy, but it's a good busy. We'll get into the debates in just a second because the Republicans are squawking about debates and we'll get into that in just a second. But one of the stories that you wrote this week was about Governor Healey's endorsement by four different police unions, including the very troubled and scandal plagued Massachusetts State Police. And the governor is like, hey, these are all a bunch of nice guys, you know, and I welcome their endorsements. Obviously, any governor or candidate for governor is going to welcome the endorsements of a police union. So what's up with this? Is this something that could be problematic for her? Or you wrote another piece about a sexual assault, alleged sexual assault involving a state police headquarters on Martha's Vineyard. Is this a good union you want endorsing you or what? Yeah, so, well, you're right in terms of, you know, you do want it for any candidate on any side of the aisle. You do want to get those police endorsements. And she did lock up the Boston Patrolmen's Association, SPAM, which is the State Police Association of Massachusetts, a couple other state police and local police unions. But, you know, it comes at a time, Barry, though, where the state police under her watch, mind you, is in a lot of trouble. You know, it's been, I think, the last three weeks we've had a brand new scandal involving a brand new trooper. Well, you know, the most recent one of which is what you just mentioned, the alleged sexual assault on a barracks in Martha's Vineyard. And what, you know, Howie Carr and my boss, Joe Dwinell, they actually worked together to dig this up a couple of days ago. And I just did a piece confirming it yesterday. But, you know, apparently there's an alleged sexual assault in the actual barracks on Oak Bluffs, the state police barracks there. And it was involving, according to state police, two non-members of the department or state police. So I guess it was someone that these two people were visiting a trooper. And, you know, it's just one of a laundry list of different scandals from Scott Quigley, who was driving drunk and hit and killed a disabled Special Olympian, you know, a couple of years ago. And it was covered up. And that's going through court now. You have the horrific actions of Michael Proctor during the Karen Reid trial. You have the trooper death in the kick, you know, the the trainee who got killed in the trooper kickboxing match. You've got a ton of other stuff. It's just it goes on and on. And she's at the head of this. And all these things happened during her administration, which is even crazier. You know, it always just seems everything associated with Maura Healey somehow or another has a scandal connected to it. It just I don't know whether it's just, you know, her run of luck or whether there's something to it. But in the state, police have been, you know, certainly scandal prone for for a long time. I mean, even look at the Karen Reid case and, you know, various other things that have gone on. So I've often wondered, too, why do police unions endorse the party whose one of their primary themes is defund the police? That's just never made much sense to me before. Well, you know, it doesn't make much sense to me either, Barry. You know, I think a lot of it has to do with the who the leadership is in the actual agencies. I know that unions are separate from the actual leadership and it's actually probably their who they battle with the most. But, you know, if you notice when it comes to stuff like the Protect Act, you know, all she has a bunch of these sheriffs and police chiefs and and law enforcement representatives, you know, go, you know, testifying at these hearings in favor of her. And they're all Democrats, mind you, and they're all appointed by her, mind you. So I think it has to do with that, where it's kind of like picking and choosing. And, you know, I think there's also some, you know, some things that she might have done. You know, they may have lobbied her the right way and maybe got ahold of her in terms of different contract stuff they want from the state. But, you know, it is head scratching because also during her when we asked her about that stuff, I asked her about this in a media scrum right after she accepted the endorsements. And, you know, she she went on her typical rant about how, you know, how we all should accept law enforcement and all these, you know, all these different things. And then three minutes later, just started dumping on ice another law enforcement agency. So it's contradictory all around with her sometimes. Yeah, it all depends on, you know, what plays to the to the audience that she's speaking before at the moment. You're right. I mean, she talks about, you know, ISIS being, you know, untrained and, you know, a rogue agency and so on and so forth. And I have before me, I'm going to read this in the next hour about the laundry list of folks that were picked up right there. Some of them in Boston. There was a Jamaican this week arrested in Boston. All of these all of these people that, you know, were really bad hombres that ISIS picking up and taking off the streets. And yet Maura Healy just has no respect for ICE at all. And and then she gladly accepts the the endorsement of four police unions. It's just kind of crazy stuff. Just when we thought the Springfield case might be over with the courthouse, you had some reporting this week that that's not necessarily true. There was a case bought by two of the people who bid for that contract, and it was pretty much brushed aside by Healy and by Andrea Campbell and even the court. You know, no, no problem here. You guys don't have any you don't have any, you know, anything really to complain about. This was a fair process and so on and so forth. But you came up with some new information that that kind of resurrects this case. And it looks like it's going to go back again, maybe for another review. What did you find out? Yeah. So if your listeners remember, there is a lawsuit filed against this contract that massive two billion dollar deal for a Springfield courthouse that was given to Ayanna Pressley's husband and into the current leader of the state convention center, two politically connected, very politically connected people. And that lawsuit failed. The judge decided with the state, you know, that the contract was legitimate, blah, blah, blah. There is nothing wrong here, even though, you know, everyone can still smell it stinks so bad. And and what this new development was by the same people who were suing is Jeb Belese and Dinesh Patel. They're two big, big business magnates out in Western Mass. And what they found was through a public records request, found an invitation log to a meeting with the top staffers of Governor Healy's administration, including, you know, her chief communications people, her chief legal counsel, the lieutenant governor's staff, you know, a bunch of other people from, you know, from the administration and finance office. And they were meeting with John Barrows, the current head of the convention center, who was part of the the business partnership that was awarded this contract. They met just hours, Barry, before the winner was made public. And it's obviously, you know, if anybody has eyes, eyes, noses and ears, they can see that that really stinks and really doesn't look right or seem right in what the governor's offices in the and, you know, and representatives for Barrows have said to defend it was, oh, well, they had already let the the winning team know when they were just meeting on on separate issues. That seems a little bit of a stretch to me. They're meeting on separate issues. But, you know, you can take their word for it. Yeah. So many coincidences under this administration. It's absolutely amazing. Was mass daily news had a story today. Sweetheart deal. Governor Healy showers her environmental ally with two hundred nine thousand dollars in offshore wind grant just four months after they endorsed the reelection. So, you know, this stuff just continues to happen and happen and happen and happen. And they just brush it off. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's all coincidental. You know, it's it's not what you think. Go ahead and go outside and go play. Let the adults talk about this is not what you think. You conspiracy riddled MAGA supporter. Essentially, the attitude they give, you know, we're smarter than you. It's just, you know, this is all commonplace. And it's you know, it really is not commonplace in most, you know, states around the country. At least I certainly hope not. Where, you know, with Massachusetts certainly is an outlier when it comes to the blatant corruption we've seen in just scandals. And again, look at the state police we just talked about. You know, and with Governor Healy, she's got a scandal plagued administration from Lamar Cook to Monica Tibbetts not to, you know, to all these different things she's done, including this environmental stuff. You know what? Talk about pay to play. Endorse me and I'll give you some state funded taxpayer money. Well, you know, technically, Maura Healy is the head of the state police department, just as a mayor of a city is technically the head of the police, local police department. So Maura Healy, you would think, would distance herself, you know, with all of the scandals and investigations and try to distance herself from the state police at this point so that there is no perception of wrongdoing. And and yet that doesn't happen. It's all it's all Tim Dunn's fault. Right. Tim Dunn just keeps putting these stories out and, you know, raising all of these issues that don't really exist. We're all just a bunch of happy campers up here. And until Tim Dunn came along and, you know, I caught your piece with I don't remember what the subject matter was at the moment, but you had a little blowout with Shaman Shiketi from Channel 5. I guess she was in a media scrum. She was given, like, all the opportunity to ask questions. And then finally, when you got a question in, it was time to grab Healy and run out of there. And that's what happens so often when the tough questions come, they grab and run on those kind of events. So and you were frustrated with Shiketi. You let her have it over that because you weren't given an opportunity to ask a question. And when you finally did, they just whisked her away. And so you look at all of these stories that we're talking about, the work that you guys are doing at The Herald, they're not doing that kind of work at Channel 5 and at the other stations up in Boston. It's just not happening. That's why more Healy can skate by on these issues and never have to worry about confronting them. No, you're absolutely right, Barry. And you and I, we can talk to the hens come home about the downgrading of Boston media and how bad they've been in recent years. And, you know, and that was a good example over there in Fall River last week where, you know, it was the day after the primary election. We finally have a general election set up where it's Minogue versus Healy. And, you know, what's the first question that Healy gets on the campaign trail from a Boston reporter is what makes Fall River special to your campaign? You know, and then Charbonnet, you'll continue to ask about five different softball questions and just hog the whole time. And if you want to ask softball questions, fine, but at least give other reporters who are going to ask actual questions the time to ask them. And, you know, you see this across all different media, you know, from the Boston Globe is probably the biggest offender of it. You know, and I'm not just saying that because they're a direct competitor. They really have been the biggest offender of just kind of pushing the Democrat narrative and really, you know, supporting Democrat politicians in the state while just, you know, bashing, you know, Republican candidates. Like, for example, with Mike Minogue, they did a big story about him owning a mansion in Utah. Well, yeah, the guy's a billionaire. Of course he owns a mansion in Utah and other states because he's got the money. Bernie Sanders has three mansions and, you know, Senator Liz Warren has what, seven houses. Do they ever write stories about that? No, they don't. And you're certainly a lot more questions of how they even got the money to get those houses from those two than the former president and CEO of a massive pharmaceutical company. Absolutely. So, you know, and I did happen to see the report that day. I don't remember what the story was the day after the election. It was there was a particular story. And I know we're trying to dig at it. And and Shaman Siketi owned the scrum because she's the, you know, the easy, you know, fluff of a fluffer nutter over there. But I did see her piece that she produced after your little go around with her. And it was it was all about, you know, MAGA, MAGA, MAGA, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Minogue, Minogue, Minogue and all of that and really gave Haley a free ride. And and this is what they can expect. I mean, the Boston media, essentially their their version of a hard question to Maura Haley is, oh, governor, where did you get those shoes? They're so cute, you know, and and that's what you can expect from this. I mean, they're all like that. I mean, you know, GBH, the Boston Globe, Channel 5. And it's horrible. And you wonder why people don't know what's going on in this state. Right. Well, when you're fed on a local TV outlet like a TV or in the in the paper, like the Boston Globe and you're and you're only fed, you know, the dung queen thing that Haley and Driscoll do, that's kind of cringeworthy at this point, but they do it or, you know, they you know, just the little press events like during the FIFA World Cup, they got the world's biggest soccer ball, the Gillette Stadium. You know, when you only see that stuff going on, you miss all the big details and you miss all the things that are going on with someone like Lamar Cook or with the state police or with all the different things going on in her administration that, you know, people who are who have their eyes open and their ears open are, you know, are left flabbergasted by, you know, and, you know, it's got to change. But, you know, I think it also reflects in the TV's ratings and the Boston Globe's, you know, subscription base. Those things are falling, I think, because they kind of just do the status quo dance. I don't understand why the Republicans don't have a picture of Lamar Cook hanging everywhere. I mean, they should be in every one of their ads and, you know, they're not doing attack ads. And, you know, a lot of us hate attack ads, but I think most people would say they hate attack ads, but they work. I mean, more Helios out with an attack ad the night of the primary election, the day after she's flooding social media and TV with her, you know, Maga Mike ads and this that and the other thing. The other guys just don't seem to be fighting back that way. I just don't get it. But, you know, in something else, karma is a you know what. And, you know, for several months, Mike Minogue refused to debate Brian Shortsleeve. And now they were looking for a debate out in western Massachusetts against Healy before the mail in ballots go out and so on and so forth. And the Healy people say, no, we're not going to do it. And they're squawking. Well, this isn't fair. You've got a debate and so on and so forth. So I guess what goes around comes around. But, you know, you you highlighted earlier, and I guess you're working on a piece about debates and how here in Massachusetts, but all across the country, actually, Democrats are refusing to debate the Republican opponents. What's up? Yes. You've seen that trend across the country, really, with some of the bigger names in the other state elections going on. And you see that here in Massachusetts, where I have at least five where Andrea Campbell has already publicly stated she won't debate Michael Walsh because of his signature snafu problem going on. We have Dan Coe, who's running to replace, you know, Moulton, the seat that Moulton left in the 6th District for Congress. He's come out and said he's canceled two debates he actually already agreed to and now won't debate his general election opponent, Republican Mika Jones. And he says, well, he's debated seven times already because it was a pretty big primary. And he said he's debated seven times and that's just enough. We have we have Ed Markey, who has not responded to several debate requests from John Deaton, even though he debated Moulton a few times. And, you know, and he skips out on the interparty primary debate between Moulton and Deaton. So you've got to give credit to Moulton there, at least he at least participated in that. And then you have and then you have Governor Healy, who I'm trying to nail this down specifically with both campaigns. It was a bit confusing where right when right the day after the general election, both the Minogue campaign and the Healy campaign announced that they accepted multiple debates and they were all different ones. You know, when I actually just checked in with the Minogue campaign, they said we're accepting all debates, any debates against Maura Healy. We accept everything and everything. And I'm still waiting to hear back from the Healy campaign. And what I'm thinking might be happening, depending on what they say is what they put out and they may only stick to those, you know, just to have a chance that they, you know, they can skirt by debate with Minogue. Because I think what they're afraid of is what you just said is all the stuff in Western Mass coming up between the contract and between Lamar Cook, you know, from Monica Tibbetts, not to her, not even having really any accomplishments that anybody can name. So and actually I asked her yesterday about her accomplishments, about that whole question, and she couldn't really even name one either. She just reverted back to Trump and bashing Minogue. But, you know, that's what we're kind of dealing with here is we're seeing that trend play out. Oh, and Deb Goldberg is the other one, too. She's refusing to she's just told me today she's refusing to debate Elizabeth Dionne. So do you think there is a chance that there will be no gubernatorial debate? Do you think somehow or another they just won't be able to reach an agreement on on a day or two days that works for both of them? Is it possible? It's possible, but I'm still optimistic. And I'll tell you why. Because Governor Healy really doesn't have a choice. I think what they're doing is they're trying every angle possible to skirt away from one and just kind of get away with it and seeing what can happen. But if voters want to take her seriously, you know, we all know her base will vote for her no matter what. But it's really that, you know, the substantial amount of independence we have in this state unenrolled that, you know, that might be turned off if she doesn't debate, you know, despite what Minogue did. And she can certainly call him out on that, you know, that it's only going to resonate with some people. But, you know, there are people who are maybe undecided. And there's a lot more than we may think that are undecided on this, who would want to see a debate and that would look bad for her. And it would give Minogue the opportunity to say, well, you know, she's only just covering up all of her numerous scandals and her lack of accomplishments here. That's what I think. All right. Tim Dunn, Boston Herald, appreciate your time every Friday afternoon, my friend. Good work. Keep it up. And we all appreciate it. Thanks, Barry. Appreciate it. All right. Thank you, sir. Tim Dunn, Boston Herald. And we'll hook up with him again next week. Right now, though, I got to get a break and we're going to come back on the other side Save on summer favorites at Raley's Bel Air and Nov Hill. You'll always find weekly sales on the fresh peak season fruits and veggies in our produce department. 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The grant went to STEAM, S-T-E-A-M, all capital letters, STEAM the Streets, a Boston youth nonprofit to launch a statewide campaign to increase public understanding of offshore wind and clean energy careers. The Environmental League of Massachusetts is listed as a partner on the project. So this group gets a contract for two hundred nine thousand dollars plus. It just so happens they endorsed Healey's reelection effort four months ago. Another another Maura Healey coincidence. Isn't that amazing? ELM's affiliated C-4, the Elm Action Fund, endorsed Healey and Lieutenant Governor Kim Driscoll for reelection on May 12. Casey Bowers, the Elm Action Fund's executive director, called Healey's climate record bold leadership in the endorsement statement. Bold leadership. We're no man or Maura Healey has ever gone before. Massachusetts Fiscal Alliance flagged the arrangement on X. Taxpayer money is now funding a project involving an organization affiliated with one of Healey's political endorsers. Paul Craney, who is a mass fiscal alliance spokesperson, told the mass daily news the timing is only part of the problem. Governor Healey is gambling with taxpayer money that he's in a hurry to gamble with, he said. The latest offshore wind contract procurement is on its sixth delay. They just missed the last deadline in July. And before that, two major wind developers actually paid us back out of the paid us back to back out of their power purchase agreement so they wouldn't have to build here. It's a failing industry. It should have never happened in the first place. And we need an investigation into how it happened or why it even happened. The rest of the four point two million dollars was distributed across 20 projects through two mass CEC programs, 1.7 million through the Offshore Wind Works Program, 2.4 million through the Offshore Wind Science Research and Analysis Program. Recipients include Massachusetts Maritime Academy, UMass Dartmouth, UMass Boston, Tufts, New England Aquarium and multiple private firms. Steam the Streets is the only recipient tagged for public outreach and science communication and the only project on the list that lists the Environmental League of Massachusetts as a partner. Another coinkydink. Oh, isn't that funny? Didn't know that, huh? 508-996-0500. You're up next on WBSM. Thanks for hanging on. Hey, Barry. Hey. How you doing? Good. How are you? Got a question for you. Yeah. This follows with your theme in the last couple of weeks about Mike Minogue. So my question is, why wasn't Mike Minogue at the Republican convention this week in Texas? I went through the speakers list. There was a two day convention and it was all about the first convention connecting with the midterms. It was all about the midterms. It was all about attention to detail in the voting in the local communities. They actually had on the speakers list over two days, they had the mayor of Dallas, not a super big speaker. They had a lieutenant governor. I kept thinking, why wasn't Mike Minogue there with the Massachusetts delegation talking about what he has to talk about? I mean, I don't think they would have turned him down. Well, he was he was welcome to go. And so was John Deaton. If you notice, John Deaton wasn't there either. And there are states where this was actually addressed by the by the Republican Party. There are states where Republicans are fighting against opponents or are in states where Trump is not that popular. And they figured that an appearance at the two day convention in Dallas would hurt them rather than help them. So a bunch of Republicans in those states stayed home. They didn't go, including some incumbents. But see, that's why Massachusetts wasn't represented there in that way. Trump's got a twenty nine percent approval rating in Massachusetts, according to the latest poll that I've seen. And I don't think an appearance by Deaton or an appearance by Minogue would help them at all. As a matter of fact, I think it would give more campaign material for Maura Healy. She's already calling him Maga Mike, right? Well, that's already out there. So what does it matter? But, you know, the point is, is that you're on the national stage and, you know, the press is there that can pull down comments and quotes. And he had a great opportunity to to lambaste the governor of Massachusetts for some of the worst policies in the country in front of the national crowd. Oh, I agree. I agree with you a hundred percent. Yeah. If I were Minogue, I would have been there. But that's that's why he was in there. Yeah, I think it's the opposite. I think that, you know, if if if you you got up, you got to punch up. And I don't I don't think that that that, you know, I guess if you can't hide from being labeled, right, if I label you something and I say it on the air, you know, you can't really hide from it. It's out there and either people say it or they, you know, you ignore it. It goes away. But, you know, his his issue is definitely visibility. And and, you know, maybe he wants to have, you know, outside of being the governor, maybe down the road, there's some other positions for him in the Republican Party or in more of a national stage. But, you know, you look at guys like, you know, Tim Scott or you look at the Texas senator there, Rubio and John Cruz. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. So I got it wrong. But or even even Rubio. But I mean, they raise themselves up to a point where they're visible nationally. And that would be good for Massachusetts because we don't have any Republicans that are visibly nationally. Right. So, again, I kind of would be fighting the opposite that the visibility is better than none, you know. Well, you know, here's a two day. Yeah. No, here's a two day convention that is, you know, laying out all of the good things that has happened during Trump, too, and so on and so forth. And certainly you would think that, you know, Mike Mnook's already going to fight. You're right. You got a punch up. He's already going to fight the Trump albatross at home anyway. And so does John Deaton. So go out and fight for it and say, look, these are the things that benefited Massachusetts. Fetterman, John Fetterman, Democrat from Pennsylvania, actually did a video and had it shown there. That's exactly right. Fetterman is willing to risk it by his entire video was I'm I'm a reach across the aisle person. I have plenty of friends that are Republicans because we're all Americans first. That was his entire message, which, you know, I can't believe Democrats came out and lambasted him. And it's like, no, the message is communication, not not, you know, paint yourself in a corner like half you idiots have done already. You know, anyway, I agree 100 percent. If I were Minogue, I don't think Deaton's got a chance in hell, but, you know, Minogue still got a chance. And, you know, if I Minogue, I would have taken advantage of that and I would have been there and I would have been selling Massachusetts, you know, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell. See all of these policies, you know, no taxes on Social Security. This helped you seniors in Massachusetts. And here's what I'm going to do to help you more. You know, the you know, no taxes on tips. No. You know, all of these policies are have helped you. And I'm going to help you more. You know, the policies of the last two years have created an economic boom for blue collar workers. And I'm going to do more with that in Massachusetts. And you get to draw the contrast there with more healing. You got people that can help you to do that there. And I think you missed the golden opportunity. He wouldn't even debate here in Massachusetts. So it doesn't shock me. Yeah, no, I well, you know, I yeah, there's two strategies. And, you know, I the debate, you know, I kind of knew more. Healy wasn't going to debate, you know, if he got became the candidate. And I think that with I think he missed an opportunity with short sleeve debating, because I don't think short sleeve had all the that, you know, I think he had a better presentation, but just didn't do it. But, you know, you this this is a totally different opportunity, because it gets that you can rally the Massachusetts delegation that's there. You can rally the Massachusetts press. I mean, you know, your buddy, Tim, there probably would have covered it, you know, massively. And it gets him to put stuff on the national stage that maybe people don't understand, because every community play or every area, every state is different. I mean, South Carolina has far different needs than Massachusetts. And you got to point those things out, you know, get, you know, and get support. Also, it could be getting some more money by doing that. But I think, yeah, we'll see what happens. But, you know, I don't know if you saw the Patriots game on Monday night. No, Wednesday night, right? Yeah, but yeah, a lot of bad decisions about the window. Yeah. Yeah. Drake may had a lousy game, a lot of bad decisions and so on and so forth. And, you know, Drake may did not get one second of playing time during the preseason, three games. He didn't get in one game. And then he put him out there and a in a in a real game situation on Wednesday night, and, you know, he made some good decisions. He made some bad decisions. Granted, he didn't lose the game on his own. There was, you know, the offensive line was questionable at times. You know, there were some other issues as well. But that's what happens. And this is what I feared is going to happen with Mike Minogue. We don't know his ability debate to debate. You know, he sat the preseason out. You know, he didn't he didn't he didn't play during the preseason. So we have no idea what he's got, what kind of talent he's got, you know, what he sounds like, what his issues are. And now he's going to go out there and debate if he gets a chance to debate with more. We have no idea what to expect from that. And, you know, it's just like he's not going to debate him. She's not going to debate him. You don't think she's going to debate at all? No, I don't think so. I think she's going to try to run out the clock because she's got nothing to do. I mean, she can point her finger at him and say, mega, mega, mega. But, you know, that doesn't resonate with coffee table issues. You know, you clearly ruined the state based on how you handle the utilities. Everyone's going to agree with that. So if she's smart, she's going to stay out of the debate. I don't think she has any position. I mean, she can call a mega Mike all day long, but he can always say, I never ever met President Trump. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, you know, it's going to be an interesting 53 days to go. Fifty three or fifty four days is going to be a very interesting time period. I'm looking forward to it playing out and seeing what happens. Thanks, Steve. Appreciate it. 508-996-0500 is the number. I mean, you know, I'm not always one for using sports metaphors, but I think that was perfect. And we're just talking to my boss out in the hallway before I came in about last night's game, too. I fell asleep before the game came on. It was an 830 game. Long day yesterday for me. I saw a whole bunch of stuff, fell asleep and didn't get to see any of the game. I think I mentioned that earlier. I woke up like one o'clock in the morning or whatever. But my boss was saying the same thing. He said it was so sloppy and it was. And the same thing was true that a lot of the star players, you know, they don't see the any action in the preseason and they put him in a real games and they're just not ready for you. This is NFL quality. And so the games so far have been only been two, but they've been kind of sloppy and messy. So I hope we get through that. But the same can be said in a campaign. Mike Monogue has never been on television before debating an incoming governor, especially Amora Healy. So we have no idea what he's got. He may surprise us. I hope he does. 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And as always, please tell them that Barry sent you. All right, I've been teasing this, and after the news, I'm going to, I promise, I've got it right here in front of me, the big ICE arrests here in New England for the month of August, and some of the ones, you're just going to blow your socks off. You know where you've got the New England and New York governor and legislators and mayors and everything yelling and screaming and bitching and moaning about ICE and their rogue agency. They're untrained. They don't know what they're doing. Well, it sounds like they know pretty well what they're doing, and they're doing a good job at it. And some of the biggies, just in August, just August alone will make your head spin, that these people are running around in your communities, and that the politicians that you elect, that you trust to do what's right, are fighting ICE and trying to keep ICE from, you know, many of these politicians had their way, the Democrats, they would dismantle ICE. They would unfund ICE. You know if the Democrats win in the midterms, one of the first things they're going to do is defund ICE, okay? And you think that's wonderful because, you know, you watch all this idiocy on social media, but wait till I tell you who got busted just this month alone and for what reasons. And, you know, maybe you ought to rethink and use some common sense about dismantling ICE. It makes no more sense than defunding the police. So, you know, there's that. And we're going to tell you more about that, so stick around. Let me get the last break in for the hour. We'll come right back after this. All righty, welcome back here to the program. It is 1.58. News is coming up in just a couple of moments. And so Governor Maura Healey is declining to say yesterday whether she would stave off an effort by anti-abortion activists to suspend a new law that removes barriers to the procedure after 24 weeks gestation. I've been telling you there's a signature drive to try to force this onto the ballot, and if they can get enough signatures by October 23rd, they can suspend the law while it goes through the ballot process. Healey is refusing to say whether she would step in and try to prevent that from happening. The Compassionate Care Coalition is collecting the signatures. Healey has the authority to sign an emergency preamble to make the law take effect immediately, thwarting any suspension effort. She took that approach, of course, to uphold the 2024 gun safety reform law, which is on the ballot this fall. Question nine, you got to vote no. But the governor would not disclose her abortion law strategy during a campaign event in Dorchester. I'm not going to comment on anything that hasn't happened yet in the sense that I think they are still collecting signatures, Healey told reporters. 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