Alleged Lindsay Clancy Copycat Killer's Sinister Plan | The TMZ Podcast

Hey, good morning. Welcome to the TMZ podcast. I'm Branson Quirk. And I'm Tony Smith. We're back at it again for day number two. Back at it again. You know, this story, we're leading with this, Lindsay Clancy, copycat, alleged copycat, killer, and this thing, all everything around this is just sinister. Yeah, the details are pretty, they're, it's just really hard to read. I was reading through before this and it's just, I was just in shock and her former high school friend is apparently speaking out now. Now we're getting more context as to like the things she had said beforehand. We know that there was text messages, but just to give you context. So if you don't know about this whatsoever, well, Lindsay Clancy, obviously there was a mistrial and she was accused of killing three of her children. But a lot of people have been following this case. It's been global. Honestly, it's one of the big, one of the biggest cases in the country currently, and now there's this alleged copycat killer named Corey Walsh in Illinois. So prosecutors allege that Corey Walsh planned to kill her husband after killing her two-year-old son, Barrett Bear Walsh. So what had happened was prosecutors say that two other children who lived at the home, they arrived and saw the scene and immediately ran to contact a neighbor. The scene they saw again, very disturbing. The neighbor then allegedly entered the home and found her two-year-old son, Barrett, hanging from a rafter in the basement. The neighbor cut Barrett down and performed CPR in an attempt to save him. He was subsequently rushed to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. They then found Walsh. They discovered her sitting in a bloody bathtub. It was full of water. So there was bloody water with cuts on her wrists and her thighs. Authorities allege that Walsh admitted killing Barrett and made disturbing statements about why she did it. Prosecutors say Walsh told authorities she killed her son because he was quote, he was the devil and quote Antichrist and so on. So apparently too, she allegedly planned to poison her husband and prosecutors are further alleging that she made statements indicating that Barrett was not intended to be her only target or victim. According to prosecutors, Walsh said she planned to poison her husband when he returned home from work later that evening and the defense is saying that she was in a severe mental health crisis apparently too. You want to get into those details? But the focus of this case and I mean, there's horrible things that happen all over the country every single day. But the focus here is that she had allegedly been texting her friends about following the Lindsay Clancy case. She was actively following that according to alleged text messages that she sent her friends. The connection led people online to accuse Walsh of taking inspiration from Clancy's case in order to create a similar defense. Yeah, I don't know. It's like you see it's disturbing and she's texting her friends. She's following this case and then you see what she did and they claim that she was in a psychosis of her own and then it's like, okay, if she was in a psychosis of her own then this probably came to her mind, you know, like that was in her brain. She knew about it. My point here is that there's a lot of danger when we publicize things like this, right? There's a lot of danger when there's these cases that get blown up and everybody's watching them and talking about them and there's arguments over who did it and if she was innocent or guilty and I'm not saying it shouldn't be publicized to, you know, prevent things like this from happening. Maybe people can see but there's always that one bad egg out there and this has happened before in other cases. There's a lot of copycat killer cases just like this and they're sinister. This one is just another level of disturbing, you know, we do want to say though that her attorney Andrea Leon is denied like the connection that people are connecting from Walsh to Clancy about her taking inspiration from that case. Her attorney strongly denying that and she's calling the allegation sickening. Apparently, this is her former high school friend is speaking out. She told us she knew Walsh for years and apparently, according to her, she was beautiful, kind, intelligent, talented, and giving. So apparently, according to her former friends or at least this one, this is completely off character for her and that's just going to raise a ton more questions and I just, this is just a really disturbing details and yeah, we'll definitely find out more about it, especially with Lindsay Clancy and just that the whole mistrial being declared and are they going to retry it again and there's just a whole bunch of stuff going on with these two cases. And we talked to this woman and she told us that Walsh attended a small Catholic high school. The two had not been in contact since their school years. She said every interaction she had. Yeah, it was very positive. They were, she was reportedly very active in several school activities, Walsh, including the palms team, helping hands club, senior power, powder puff games, and liturgy. I can't say that correctly. Liturgy? Yeah, through mass. Her former classmate says Walsh seemed to know everyone and was friendly with students from different social groups. The former friend also said that she was completely shocked when she learned that this had happened. The quote was, never in a million years could I have imagined something so tragic. Another allegation she finds particularly difficult to reconcile with was that Walsh, with Walsh, is that she knew, is that the claim that Walsh told investigators she believed her son was the quote devil and antichrist, saying that the two didn't like go to church, you know, hardcore or anything like that. So, I mean, I've seen similar cases where a parent like thinks that their kid is, you know, like the devil, things like that. And usually it doesn't end well, but this is, this is horrible. Yeah, it's nothing more to say other than, you know, they're going to keep investigating. Lindsay Clancy, that case, this case, there is just, just the world in general. It just feels like we just are seeing it go to good places. Yeah, and I mean, I'm not trying to say, you know, that this is like something that is new because the world has always been horrible. Yes, horrible things happened in the 60s, the 50s, the 40s, horrible things, you know, serial killers, all these horrible things, but everything's just more publicized now. So you see more. Yeah. All right, on to our next story and final story, this AI story I've been extremely invested in. You talked all about this all day yesterday. So I'm assuming you're tired of hearing about AI, but we do have an update. Jacob Coxson, the guy who tweeted out yesterday about the dangers of AI, he spoke to Anderson Cooper and gave us a little bit of insight. This is the guy that said that it was, humanity was going to be killed off by the end of the decade. Yes. Yeah. So we talked with Anderson Cooper. We'll play you the clip now. Well, I initially just decided to leave. I thought I can't be part of this anymore. But then I realized I could probably make some use of it. I did not expect it to go this viral. So what I did is I wrote a Twitter thread out. I wrote it in a Google Doc. I drafted it with a friend. We collaborated. Yeah, I had a few. There are a few friends I discussed the best way of expressing myself with after I decided to leave. And then I also got some friends to retweet the thing. I was like, let's probably make this a bit viral. But clearly there was latent demand for this thing to absolutely explode. Do you agree with him that the current models, the risk is low, but it's just the speed with which this is now improving? Exactly. I completely agree. It's right now. There's no risk of extinction. The current models, the worst they can do is maybe hack into something, potentially cause a lot of damages in infrastructure, but there's no, they're not intelligent enough to outsmart us at the level that would lead to extinction. I think what's just crazy is to look at the rate of progress and there is a very real possibility that in the immediate future, these are years that like next year, the year after recursive self-improvement will happen and will enter the phase of Evan's post where he argues that there's a chance we could all die like that. That is coming soon. So the most interesting part, he sort of clarified what he was saying yesterday about he doesn't believe AI where it's currently at. He doesn't believe it's going to wipe us out right now, but the rate at which it's progressing is very concerning. And I think that is absolutely spot on. And this is something from somebody who worked at Anthropic and I believe OpenAI as well. This is just, we need more transparency like that. And we just need to say, hey, AI, there's a lot of benefits to it, but this is a brand new technology that the world has never seen before or something that is completely brand new and I appreciate his transparency and just for saying stuff like that. I mean, there should be more policy put in place to prevent anything like this from happening. I will say that it's like he came out with this bombshell resignation thread on social media and fear-mongered the crap out of everybody and then he goes on Anderson Cooper and then he just says he backtracked a little bit, you know, there's no danger right now, but it could happen and I'm like, of course it could happen. Of course it could happen and you look at the 1200 AI models that that's what I think it's fear-mongering to each other. So yes, that's definitely like a possibility, but I highly doubt his timeline is anywhere near what it would be. I don't buy 2030. I can agree with you there. Like Skynet type level stuff is what he's saying. He's saying Skynet. Have you seen Terminator? Yes, like he's he's saying like nuclear extinction essentially that 2030 they would have to figure out a whole reason as to why a humanity has to be destroyed. We did talk to AI ethicist Tristan or Tristan Harris yesterday on TMZ live and he brought up a really good point with nukes and how the Trump administration and honestly, it wouldn't shock me future administration's putting more money into nuclear technology and making them more advanced more digital and he touched on that in the interview and when you include AI in the risk of that and everything going digital now, I don't think it's fear-mongering to at least point out. Hey AI is there's benefits to this but it's right steadily and rapidly regret progressing to just you know, crazy levels of technology. I don't know. It's just good to hear from him. I should say let's say okay AI hacks into every nuke goes up in the air. The whole world's cooked. What do you do like in? What's your like last? There's not my last couple hours pray 15 minutes. I pray and just hope for the best. But I mean right snack from the fridge you last meal everything but we're not doomers here. We don't know what Sam would do what Sam would turn on like Arrested Development and watch like the first step and he'd be like, oh man like Balboa Island. Yeah, that's what you do. Right Sam. Yeah, Sam Sam is is a materialist. I'm just kidding. No, no, Sam is not a materialist. Good man. All right, everybody got any comments today? We got time. We do. All right. Let's see here. Courtney makeup sin says and he allegedly worked for an AI company who was part of evolution. He's talking about he's voicing his risk. However, there's an older film there. She's just talking about the the risk and Terminator and all that stuff. Like I just said, I think it's I we need more researchers and whistle. I'm not going to call a whistleblower but per se but more so like we need more transparency about the risk of it. I feel like everything now. It's just all glitz and glam and all a ice cool. We can do all these things with you know, just you instantly you can get it to write or take whatever you want to do. You can just get it. It's hard when though when you know, we're competing though with like countries like China. I don't think we don't we don't want China to have the best that we just don't we don't want trying to have the best anything so and I think vice versa to you know, that's the problem is like we have to like we have to also compete and make it better and and then so we're kind of like stuck in this mode, which I don't think it's going to ever come down to be honest with you, unfortunately and all right. I got time for one more comment. AI seems good and bad at the same time says Kelly Smith want to it does help us a lot here. We use it for note-taking like look at all these notes. These are all taken by AI right here. You like transparency. There you go, but it helps us. It really does like that like that's great. But like, you know, as long as it's not going to launch a nuclear weapon, let's hope it doesn't all right. That's all the time we have. Thank you Branson. Thank you, Tony. We'll see you back here in the afternoon guys.