Could the AI Rebound Go Much Higher? | Rob Spivey
Markets are near record highs, AI spending is accelerating, and many investors are asking the same question: Are we late in the cycle, or is the real boom still ahead?
In this interview, Rob Spivey, Director of Research at Valens Research, explains why he believes many investors are looking at the wrong data. Using Uniform Accounting, a framework designed to remove distortions in traditional financial statements, Rob shares how he measures earnings, valuation, and credit conditions differently from conventional Wall Street analysis. He discusses why traditional metrics can be misleading and how his approach helps identify what is really happening beneath the surface of the market.
Drawing on this framework, Rob outlines why improving credit conditions, rising corporate investment, and AI related infrastructure spending could support earnings growth for years to come. He also shares his views on industrials, power infrastructure, natural gas, healthcare, the consumer outlook, and where he sees the biggest opportunities and risks in today's market.
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01:14 – Why Credit Drives Bull Markets
03:55 – The Signal That Flashed in 2022
05:30 – Why GAAP Gets Earnings Wrong
08:27 – AI's Profit Boom and Buildout
09:26 – Who Wins and Loses From AI
12:12 – The Credit Signal Turning Bullish
14:43 – Why This Cycle May Last Longer
17:57 – The Fed, AI, and Inflation
20:36 – Are Stocks Actually Expensive?
24:51 – AI's Biggest Bottleneck: Power
26:17 – Natural Gas and Energy Opportunities
28:30 – The Double Tailwind for Nat Gas
30:59 – Why Consumers Are Struggling
34:21 – Will AI Replace Software Engineers?
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