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>> I guess I have a weird situation. I make
$20,000 a year and I work at a bar and
restaurant. My boyfriend and I, well, he
owns it, but uh my rent is connected to
that salary that I make. My vehicle is
connected to that salary that I make. I
feel like I'm kind of a hostage in this
situation.
>> Sweetheart, I'm glad you said it so I
didn't have to. This sounds like scary
manipulation.
$20,000 first of all is below the
poverty line.
Let's start there.
>> That's Yeah, that's kind of what I
thought.
>> And then after your rent is coming out
of that and after your car payment is
coming out of that. Is that right? He's
paying for those two things.
He bought my car and uh I drive it. He
maintains it within reason. I suppose I
still have to do like the major stuff on
it.
>> What kind of car did he buy you?
>> It's a 2014 Honda CRV.
>> So, not not you know, not a real luxury
item here.
>> How much did he spend on it?
>> Expect that.
>> No, I know. I'm just trying to do the
math here. How much did he spend for
that?
>> He bought it He bought it for $8,000.
>> Exactly. So, he bought you an $8,000
car. That comes out of the 20,000. So,
he goes, "Now all I have to do is pay
her 12."
>> No. Um I I still make my my salary is
20,000. He bought me the car and um my
rent is kind of included without having
to pay for that salary of $20,000 a
year.
>> Okay. The way you worded it, I thought
it was coming out of the 20. So, you're
making 20 period.
>> But why?
>> That's it. Why are you Why would you
stay at How old are you?
>> I'm 28.
>> Why would you stay at December?
>> What's causing you to stay at a job
that's paying you 20,000? That's not a
living wage.
>> Uh I feel like I'm barely making it by.
I
>> Yes. But what's causing you to stay
there?
>> Of course you're barely making it by,
but what's causing you to stay there and
not go for another job? Because you
could, my point is, you could go to
Target and make more
>> or Walmart and make more.
>> I don't have a Target around me. Uh,
>> uh,
>> oh, now Isabelle, don't start making
excuses.
Answer the question. What is keeping you
Well, let me ask a back another
backstory question. Are you living with
him?
>> Sure.
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> Uh,
>> okay.
>> Yeah, we we've been dating for three
years.
>> Okay. When did the bar When did the
>> Okay, hold on. When did the bar job
happen? When did you start working for
him?
>> About four and a half years ago.
>> What were you doing before that for
work?
>> I've I've always been a kitchen person
and I now I'm kitchen manager and I
>> for his bar. And is his bar is it
struggling? Is he just scraping by as
well or is it doing okay? Is it doing
well? What do you know?
Uh he makes $7,000 in a weekend.
>> Okay.
>> We we don't talk about finances to be
honest.
>> Okay. And does he pay for all of your He
pays for everything except for a little
bit of spending money that you have from
the 20. Is he covering all your bills or
are you covering other things?
>> No, I'm covering other things. I'm in
debt $3,500
because I was trying to help my mom
because she was a single mother.
>> Okay.
>> And uh
so complicated, but
>> Okay. Well, your whole situation is
complicated. How old is he?
>> Uh he just turned 40.
>> I had a sense of that.
>> I'm not I'm not a relationship expert,
nor am I going to try one, but I think
this is a manipulative relationship at
best. And I think that you think you
can't do any better. You've been making
$20,000 a year for 4 and a2 years, I'm
guessing.
>> Three.
>> For three years.
>> What would happen if I tell me honestly
what would happen if today you said to
him, "Hey, I'm not going to work at the
bar anymore. I'm not making enough
money. I found another job and I'm going
to take that job instead." What would
happen?
>> Well, we've had that talk before and he
would kick me out. I would no longer
work there and I would have to find
another job.
>> Okay. So, there it is.
>> Yeah. We got a weird
>> This is that right there. Isabelle, I
knew that that was the answer and I just
wanted you to say it. Do you think that
you can stay with somebody like that
that doesn't want you to get ahead
>> and and be able to stand on your own two
feet? Do you think it's healthy or safe
for you to be with someone like that?
>> I mean, not entirely. Um, I guess what I
really am trying to do is work my way
out of my debt. And
>> but how can you? He won't let you earn
any money. He's controlling you.
Yeah.
>> Okay. Now, here's the answer, Isabelle.
Here's the answer. The only way you work
your out way you're out of debt and stay
in this abusive relationship because
that's what this is
>> 100%.
>> Um, is you're working a part-time job
based on what you've told us.
>> No, I I don't work a part-time job. On
salary, I'm I'm 90 hours a week.
>> It doesn't matter. You're working 90
hours a week to make $20,000.
>> That's what I'm saying, Isabelle. I'm
trying to help you understand. There is
no way to work out of this. And and Jade
and I and anybody on the Ramsey Show is
going to tell you there's always a way
to work yourself out of it, but there's
no way to work yourself out of it in
this situation where you're working 90
hours a week. You are an indentured
servant. Look it up.
That's what this guy's got you turned
into. You're basically working for your
livelihood. Meaning, uh, he's just going
to give me rent. He got me the $8,000
car. He's got you underneath his thumb.
And there's no way for you to get out of
this other than you break up with this
guy.
>> You have to. and you go work, you go get
a good job and you start over.
>> Well, I I want to I want to flip the
script on you in in a couple of ways.
What did you think we were going to tell
you if if if because you said, "You know
what? I really need something. I'm going
to call these folks on the radio." What
were you hoping we might tell you?
>> I guess I really didn't know.
>> Yeah.
>> We're on your side. I've been thinking
it for a while and uh I I guess I maybe
just needed some reassur reassurance or
>> something. And then
>> listen, I'm I'm going to tell you right
now. Um we we love you. We do. Uh we
want the best for you. You can't stay
with this guy.
>> No,
>> you cannot. He's not going to let you
get ahead. He's controlling you. And
it's tough because he's 40 and you're 28
and you've been with him for 3 years and
it seems like he holds all the power and
all the cards because right now he does,
but that doesn't mean that you can't go
out and get yourself a job and get get
ahead. I think that this it's like
you're under a glass.
>> I got to I got to say this, Isabelle,
you you've been with him four and a half
years. Did I hear that right?
>> Well, I've been working with him four
and a half, but we've been dating for
three. I'm sorry. But that puts you at
about 25 years of age and you've had to
help your mom. You went into debt three
grand to help your mom because she's a
single mom. And my guess there's this
abuse that runs in your past
>> and I think you're terrified of becoming
your mom. So this guy at 40 years of
age, as manipulative as he is,
>> um he represents safety for you. That's
what I think's going on. And I'm going
to recommend that you
>> maybe Yeah.
>> No, it is. It's exactly what's going on.
And I I want you to go to some friends
and family that that love you and ask
them if you can stay with them. You get
yourself a new job. Let's get on our
feet financially. Go see a therapist.
That's your homework assignment. But I
think you got to you got to break up
with this guy or I need to take a break.
And you need to see yourself. You don't
have to do a full breakup, but take a
break. Let's let's leave. Go spend some
time somewhere else and and maybe find a
job. Not maybe, find a job where you can
make some money. Let's see what life
feels like on the other side of this cuz
I think you've gotten pulled down. And
if you've got any money that you can get
a therapist with, go see a therapist and
get a real professional opinion on this.
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