Next Steps: • 💵 Start eliminating debt for free with EveryDollar - https://ter.li/vpelc3 • 🏘️ Find a Ramsey Trusted Real Estate Agent - https://ramsey.solutions/khasg8 • 📞 Have a question for the show? Call 888-825-5225 weekdays from 2–5 p.m. ET or send us an email.
[music]
Brought to you by the Every Dollar app.
Start budgeting for free today.
>> Just um stressed about bills and
thinking about bankruptcy.
>> Uhoh.
>> Oh man. How much debt do you have?
>> Uh a little over 25,000.
>> What kind of debt is that?
>> Closer to 30. um car, personal loan,
hospital bills,
um gas bill,
>> and what's left on the car?
>> The car is 10. The personal loan is 11.
And that's that's just, you know, like
personal loan just cuz I'm trying I'm
trying to get myself out of a jam. So, I
go back into it.
>> Mhm. You're in a cycle. What do you
make,
>> right? uh 126 um base salary,
>> dude. And
>> I think last year I pulled in about 180
for overtime.
>> America just lost all empathy here. You
make $130,000
and you're calling in trying to file
bankruptcy over 20.
>> Yeah. What else is going on?
>> What else is eating your lunch? Cuz it's
not it's not $25,000 of debt.
>> You could pay off this debt in less than
six months.
>> Time. I mean, I I do have other things.
I mean, I take care of my kids.
>> Okay. tell us about that because right
now we're we're trying to understand
where's the problem.
>> Yeah. Well, so I don't have a court
order on the kids. I just, you know,
whatever they need and and whatever
their mom needs, I just take care of.
>> That's true. But again, if you were if
you were
>> I'm not going to lie, misspending.
>> Okay, that's what it is. Because even if
you were married with the kids in the
house taking care of them,und you know,
$125,000
income would still be a great income. So
it's not the kids. It sounds like you're
overspending in other areas. Do you have
any kind of budget that you're on?
>> No, not really.
>> Okay, there's there's the problem. So, I
guarantee you today if you were to just
do a an old school budget on a piece of
paper, if you just said, "All right,
here's the money I take home my my net
amount when I when I take home my check,
and now I write down what I'm spending
money on, and I'm just going to go back
through my bank statement." I think you
would see the problem. Are you dating
anybody?
No.
>> Okay. So, then you're just spending
money on yourself. Is it food? Are you
doing a lot of
>> Door Dash?
>> If I looked at your bank statement, what
would I see as the number one thing that
you're overspending on?
>> Um, [snorts]
I don't know, maybe fast food.
>> Mhm.
>> Um,
uh, go Yeah, I guess going out fast
food.
>> Uh-huh. You go out with your buddies,
you guys go have some drinks. Anything
like that?
>> I don't have time for that. I work too
much for work. Okay, so here's what
George and I are saying. If you make a
hundred and I mean we could talk about
taxes and nickel and [clears throat]
dime, but essentially if you made
$100,000 a year, 126, you could live on
a hundred and pay this debt off, right?
At the basic level in less than a year.
Can you live on $100,000 a year?
>> I think so.
>> I think so, too. You're a single guy. I
mean, yes, you've got your kids to take
care of. How many? Two?
>> Three.
>> Three. Okay. How old are they?
16,
20, and nine.
>> Okay. And the 20-year-old, is she in
college?
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah.
>> What do you put towards that every
month?
>> Um about 600.
>> Okay.
>> And what are you taking home? Like what
ends up in your paycheck? Is it like
$8,000?
>> Oh, that's right. I also have a pension
loan out.
>> A pension loan?
>> Tell us about that.
>> Yeah. Oh, that I didn't even I totally
forgot about that cuz that comes out of
my check automatically. So that I think
I have about probably about 24,000 left
to pay on that.
>> Okay. How much comes out of your check?
>> Is 463 a um every two weeks.
>> What caused you to take that pension
loan?
>> Oh, that's a long story.
>> Okay. Uh what about credit cards? Are
you using those?
>> No. Oh. Oh, glad you said that. So,
there's a I got about 6,000 on uh
>> Okay.
>> Capital One.
>> Okay. Now, now it's starting to come to
view.
>> We went from 25 up to 50. Now we're at
56. Anything else you want to tell us
about? Like, hand on the Bible. What
else do you have going on?
>> Student loans.
>> That's I forgot about the Capital One
card.
>> Did you forget about student loans?
>> A year ago.
>> No, I don't have any.
>> Thank God.
>> Is any of this in collections?
>> Uh the Capital One card.
>> Okay.
>> And the gas bill.
>> All right. Are you ready to like take
control of this as a grown man with
three about grown kids and you're like,
"Dude, I'm ready to clean up my life."
Cuz if you're ready, we can help you. If
not, call us back when you are.
>> I got to Yeah, I am.
>> Okay.
>> I'm just too stressed out.
>> Mhm.
>> Starting tonight, you're going to make
this budget and it's going to give you
so much peace just to have the numbers
laid out in front of you. Even if it's
scary, even to go, I don't like what I
see. At least it's not the boogeyman and
all the unknowns. I'd rather you be
scared of the facts than the unknowns.
So, we're going to gift you every dollar
to actually make the budget. It's a
digital app you can download. And you're
going to list out your income for the
month. And if that's 7,500, you list
that in the income section. Below that,
you're going to list every expense you
can think of, including your minimum
debt payments. And what you're going to
see very quickly is if you're going over
budget every month or under budget, and
you should have wiggle room to use that
money to throw with the debt. And I I
want you um to use your bank statement
as a guide when you do this because I
kind of feel like you have something
that's living in your head of what you
spend versus what's actual reality. So
if you don't use that bank statement,
you're going to say that you spend $400
on food, right? When the reality is you
might spend like $1,100 on on food,
right? So go back, get the bank
statement for September and use that as
a guide when you make this budget going
into November. Okay? That's going to let
you see, okay, now, now you're going to
see, oh yeah, this pinchion thing came
out. Now you're going to see, oh yeah,
this what I spend on gas. And it's going
to take you, you know, you could do a,
if I felt like you had an accurate
picture, you could probably do it in 30
minutes. But I really think you need to
look at these numbers. It's going to
take you an hour or so to get this done.
But it's going to give you, like George
said, so so much peace. And the other
question is, are you investing at all?
>> No, nothing serious. Just pennies on
Robin Hood.
>> Oh boy. Okay,
>> let's delete Robin Hood for now. Can you
promise me that?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. We're not really building any
wealth over here. We're just wasting
time.
>> And what do you get every year when you
do your taxes? Uh, what kind of refund
do you get?
>> I don't Last year was the first time I
owed.
>> Okay.
>> Okay, good. Yeah, the budget, I mean,
it's the blood work. It It tells all. It
tells everything that's wrong with you.
>> Okay.
>> So, once you do this budget, you're
going to figure out your main expenses.
Here's like food, utilities, housing,
transportation, insurance, minimum debt
payments. Anything beyond that, you're
going to get real judicious and cut out.
And that means eating out, that's got to
go cuz we got we got to clean this mess
up. And we don't want it to take 10
years. Let's do this in 18 months.
>> Mhm.
>> Does that sound better?
>> Yeah.
>> Well, think about this. You got 56,000
in debt, let's say, just using ballpark
numbers, and you throw 2500 a month at
this. You're done in 22 months, less
than two years.
That sounds great, right?
>> Yeah.
>> And we avoid bankruptcy, which is going
to implode our life for the next seven
years and hurt your ability to get jobs,
to rent apartments. It's going to hurt
you in a huge way to file bankruptcy,
especially over a over debts these
small.
>> Yeah.
>> And so, I don't think bankruptcy is your
answer. I think you are the answer,
Peter. So, hang on the line. We're going
to gift you Every Dollar. Make that
budget tonight. It's going to give you a
whole lot of clarity. And the new every
dollar in that onboarding, that first 15
minutes, it's going to show you how much
margin you will create if you decide to
commit. And so, it's like we're going to
be in your pocket guiding you along the
way on this journey. And we are rooting
for you, man.
>> We think you're worth it. We think those
kids are worth it. And you're very
capable. If someone's willing to pay you
$130,000 a year, you are smart enough to
make a budget and get out of this debt
once and for all. But first, you got to
stop going into it. Debt is not a
shortcut. It's not the answer, man. You
are. Create your free every dollar
budget today.