Mullin doesn't rule out cyberattack in FAA ground stop, Duffy claims new AI system not responsible

Secretary Duffy, what you're describing is overloaded with data that then starts to show instability. That sounds like something that could be caused by a cyber attack. Can you say with 100% certainty that this was not caused by a cyber attack or a rogue AI? I'm going to give this to Mark Wayne. All right, we are, there's nothing completely certain right now, it doesn't appear that way we are, we've activated our teams, this is what Department of Homeland Security is all about this is why we're stood up to have a continuity of government to bring all the resources together in an emergency like this, this is exactly what this is, this is a national emergency we have all of our assets, be it from DOW to CISA to all of our NOCs Uh, then all the other components we have inside of DHS, uh, NSA is working with us. There is nothing that indicates it yet. Now, when we start looking at cyber threats, cyber attacks, typically some people is going to raise their hand up and say, Hey, we did that. There's no chatter. Um, we haven't seen any, any footprints as you would say, or, or, or, or, uh, uh, identifications of people that got into the system. It appears that this was mechanically driven, however, We're still looking, so we're not going to rule that out. What it appears to be right now is, as Secretary Duffy and FAA was going in and putting patches into the system, they were putting new equipment and new technology, and that new equipment, new technology just wasn't, it was overwhelming the older system, which is why Secretary Duffy made it very clear, the patchwork doesn't work. We need one complete System. We need someone to come in and build the whole system. Doing it nickel and diming it together does not work. This is what happens when it takes place. That's why the president has made it very clear. We can't do this. It has to be a complete overhaul of the system, which we estimate to be about $50 billion. However, out of abundance of caution, we are still going to do everything we can to rule it out. If that changes, we will let you know. But it doesn't appear right now that this was anything to do with technology. During the AI program, you guys just introduced the SMART program from the FAA. So, as I mentioned, this is all the old legacy equipment. Thank you very much for your equipment. All of the new equipment that's been deployed did not go down. Our smart system, which is a system that we have a feed for the whole airspace, that's going to help us better manage trajectories of airplanes and better manage weather so we can, one, drive safety in the airspace and drive efficiency in the airspace. But that smart system isn't plugged in to STARS and E-RAMP. This is completely disconnected. And I love that some people have said this would be the root cause. By the way, if it was, I would tell you that. But this is not even plugged in. What this does is gives information from the airspace to a human being and gives them a prompt on how they could better navigate weather or trajectories. Then the human being will actually decide to accept or deny that prompt. So we're not even. So there's no possible way SMART would have impacted what happened today. Thank you very much.