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>> My question comes to my wife and I have
made very poor financial decisions in
the past and we're we're trying to take
care of that now. Um but my question is
how do we get rid of vehicles when we
are so upside down on them? Um because
that's our biggest hurdle right now.
>> Okay. Well, walk us through the exact
details of the vehicles. uh what you owe
and uh what you could get for them uh in
private sale.
>> Okay. So, uh we'll start off with the
most expensive. Um it would be uh my
wife's Jeep. Um we owe 47,000.
Um on a good day, uh high Kelly Blue
Book value is 35,000. Um and then my
car, uh it's a Civic. Um we owe 21,000.
On a good day, it would be 18,000 that
we could get. Um, and then we have a
motorcycle as well. Um, and motorcycles
are weird. Um, it's hard to find a like
direct value with those. Um, but we owe
10,000 on that. And, you know, I would
be lucky. I'd like to think I could get
8,000 out of it.
>> So, we're about, if I did quick math,
George, 17,000 in the hole on all three.
Okay.
Is that all of your debt? You guys have
other types?
>> Oh, no. We have we have a lot of other
debt and that's that's what we're trying
to get on top of, you know.
>> What are the total payments for these
cars
>> and motorcycle?
>> Uh so the Jeep is 960. Uh the Civic is
455 and the motorcycle is 305.
>> Oh my god.
>> Goodness gracious.
>> I literally have a stomach ache like
right now.
>> I got to get Ken some Tums after this.
Some Tums.
>> What's your household income?
>> Uh about 67 a month after taxes.
>> Okay. Are you guys doing any investing
right now?
>> No.
>> 6700?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. And you got over $1,700 in
payments on these vehicles.
>> Yes. Unfortunately.
>> What's your rent or mortgage?
>> Um, our mortgage is $468 a month.
>> 468?
>> Yes.
>> Do you live in a trailer?
>> I do. Yes.
>> Goodness gracious, man. Your Jeep is
nicer than your house.
It is uh we've like I said we've made
really poor financial decisions and
we're just trying our best to get out of
it at this point.
>> Okay. What other debt do you have?
What's the total balance? Break.
>> So total debt of everything is 29,000.
>> That's just consumer debt.
>> Uh well, yeah. So that includes the
vehicles, the house, and then uh credit
cards um uh would be 41,000.
>> Okay. Y'all are just living like you're
in Beverly Hills, not West Virginia in
the hills.
>> That's That's for sure.
>> What made you guys want to turn this
thing around?
>> Um well, so um I had a security
clearance and um I had again we've made
super poor financial decisions, but I
had a vehicle years ago get repossessed.
Um and that repossession come back up on
my security clearance. and with the
security clearance concern. Um,
obviously that was like a slap in the
face like, okay, we need to get our our
life together here. Um, and uh, so
debt's been trying to or sorry, our
extra income's been trying to go towards
taking care of that. Um, and yeah, so
>> okay. Well, I I'll give you the advice
on the cars. You're 17 grand underwater.
So that's your magic number of how much
money you need to come up with to get
out of these payments. So, either you
need to save up that amount or you need
to get a loan from your your local
credit union to cover that amount. I
don't know that they're going to give it
to you. My guess is your credit shot.
>> It is. It is. And we've tried to do that
and they won't they won't work with us.
>> How much can you put away each month?
You know, if you cover all the bills,
minimum debt payments, how much can you
set aside?
>> So, right now, we're working with around
$600 a month. Um, and and like I said,
we've been trying to use that towards
our other debts and stuff like that in
the last year. Um, but then like I said,
that that repossession from years ago
kind of came up and that's what we've
been trying to tackle at this moment.
>> All right. Um,
>> I'm going to ask a question here. Uh,
what would what would it cost you to
rent? Uh, I know you're in a trailer.
Did you have a mortgage on, but what
would it cost you to rent in your area?
>> Um, so that's tough. Like the cheap
because we've been looking at that. Um
the cheapest that we found is like 1,200
a month. Um and of course we've been
looking at other areas. We've been
looking at outside of our county and
stuff like that, but uh yeah, it's not
really found anything.
>> Well, what do you mean? You looked
outside your county. You didn't find
anything to rent?
>> No, we found plenty of stuff to rent,
but like $1,200 a month is far more than
we can afford.
>> I get that. But I mean, what about like
somebody has got a a a bedroom over a
garage? Have you looked at that kind of
stuff? the non-traditional rentals.
>> Well, we we have two children, so
>> I know, but you're in a trailer that's
losing value. And where I'm going with
this, George, is I don't know if you
have any equity in that trailer.
>> So, we owe about 40,000 on the trailer.
It's a It's a 2017. I bought it brand
new in 2017. Um, and I don't Yeah, I
don't think that it would be worth much
more than that. I don't know. I don't
know how I would even go about selling a
trailer. You know what I mean?
>> I don't know either, dude. But I
>> You got the credit card debt and the
cars. Anything else? And of course the
trailer. Do you have any other debt?
>> Uh well, student loans. Um but that I
included that in my credit card debt.
It's uh 11,000 in student loans.
>> Okay. Well, here's the the hard truth.
At this rate, if you put 600 bucks away
to get to that 17,000 amount you're
underwater on, which by the way just
lets you sell them. That means you have
no vehicle. You have no money to put
towards another vehicle. it would take
you 28 months
>> and by then those cars have dropped even
more in value. So we don't have time to
play that game. You guys are both about
to be working 80 90 hour weeks to climb
out of this. There are no good solutions
here.
>> Uh that's I mean my wife has picked up a
second job. Um because of my career now
I'm not allowed to pick up a second job.
Uh so you know we're we're doing what we
can with
>> what do you make?
Uh, so I bring home um about five grand,
a little over five grand a month.
>> Can you switch careers and go work three
jobs?
>> I I can, but uh my you know, I've been
in this career now for 12 years and
retirement is only eight years away. So
>> retirement, dude, you can't even eat.
You're broke.
I I understand that. But with I mean I'm
eligible for retirement at 20 years and
you know obviously I can stay in it
longer than that. But I mean let me tell
you something young man. You called and
your response to what we're telling you
is just a heartbeat away from being
stuck in this cycle the rest of your
life. And I I was born in a small town
in West Virginia. I know that state.
>> Yes sir. I know the economic situation
that you're in. You don't want to do
this to yourself. So, your response of,
well, I'm I'm in this. This is where I'm
at. And then, but eight. I mean, you you
have a full-blown crisis on your hands.
>> I agree.
>> How old are those kids?
>> Uh, nine. And the other one's about to
turn two.
>> My goodness, man. If you do it for
nothing else, do it for those kids. You
got to bring in some more income. This
is an income issue right now to fix.
>> I don't care what the benefits are cuz
you're going to be stuck in the cycle
the rest of your life if we don't make
severe changes.
>> Well, so my career, let me just clarify
that. My career, I'm in the military and
so
it, you know, I can I can get out of the
military, but obviously I'm in a
contract and I got to wait and all that
kind of stuff.
>> Well, your wife's going to have to take
the brunt of it for now.
>> All right. So, we get that. So, now
she's got to work like crazy.
and and she is
>> income is your only way out of this cuz
we can't even get rid of these cars
because of the dumpster fire situation
with them being underwater. Maybe your
credit gets decent enough over time that
you can get a loan from the credit union
to cover the difference plus a little
bit extra, but man, this is a no-win
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