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So, right now I I'm I'm considering
taking money out of my 401k to pay off
my total debt. Right now, I have a total
of $35,020
in in total debt. And it's really the
credit card that I have that's killing
me. It's a 25 It had a 27.8% APR on it,
which is ridiculous. And it's just and
it's, you know,
what is the 35? Give me the breakdown on
the 35,000 I debt.
Okay. I have um 13,323
owed to the federal government from
taxes. Um I have $13,250
owed to Chase. Um that's the credit
card. I have $4,99
owed to my car. And then I have an
additional 1,138
owed to a T to um another TD credit
card.
Okay. And what do you make, sir?
I make um my household income is
205,000.
Wow.
It's a great income. Why do you owe
taxes?
So, when my wife and I were my wife and
I have been married for 9 years, we went
through a really rough cash for probably
like two to three years. Um, at some
point we were separated and we were just
not on the same page. We used to be
really um uh really intense about our uh
budget meetings and we would meet every
day. We we actually paid we actually
were graduates from FPU.
Honey, why do you owe taxes?
Oh, the tax because um
it was I I changed my tax I changed my
tax to having um to having to being
single on my on my taxes and then when I
tried to change it back we don't have a
formal uh HR department. So they I was
making changes but there was a glitch in
the system. They kept reverting back to
my to a single state.
So they was not being enough withheld.
How long have you owed the IRS?
um like a year and a half.
Okay. That interest rate makes a credit
card look cheap.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. The great
news is you only owe you you make
$25,000.
So, you can clean this up real quickly
on your own, but you're you're telling
us you want to go borrow more money to
pay off the other debt
at the tune of 30 40% interest, which is
effectively what you're doing from
robbing the 401k early.
Oh, I don't think they were saying that
the interest rate was only like 5%.
Oh, you're talking about borrowing on
your 401k, not
Yeah, borrowing it.
Okay, borrowing. Yeah, borrowing on it.
So, you're gonna try to borrow your way
out of debt. make $25,000. Dude, why
don't you just get on a budget and cut
it and pay off 35,000 in like 8 months?
You make $200,000.
So, the thing is I'm like talking to my
wife and she still wants to keep like
putting money aside for our daughter and
then her life insurance is also pretty
very high. She has um a uh pre-existing
condition that we didn't find out until
we until she was giving birth. So, her
life insurance is like around $200 a
month and then, you know, the rent we
pay is like is uh $3,50 a month.
Okay. You're not doing math. Well, you
make $205,000
and you said she pays $200 for life
insurance as if that was a problem.
That's 2,400. That's 1% of your income.
That is not the problem, honey. The
problem is you guys are not on a plan.
and you're not working together and
you're spending like you're in freaking
Congress.
You got to stop all investments
temporarily and that includes saving for
the kids temporarily and I want you to
clean this up in under a year.
You make 205,000.
That's true. Yeah, you're absolutely
right.
Yeah. I mean, let's do let me do let me
help you. 205US
35 is 170.
Yeah,
you still got 170,000 minus taxes to
live on. Cry me a river.
Seriously,
clean this mess up. Quit trying to find
a hack. The hack is in your mirror,
dude.
You fix the guy in your mirror and that
woman standing beside him and the two of
us are working together because we want
to get out of debt so we can build an
emergency fund so we can build our
retirement so we can save for our kids
and we can become wealthy and change our
family tree. Now we got something to
live for. It's time to get dialed in and
focused. Y'all just been disorganized
and lazy and and distracted by the rough
patch that you went through. Now it's
time to get on the game, man.
And um the good news is is that you
called the right people that loved you
enough to tell you the truth.
And the math on this is real simple when
you make this kind of money. I mean, if
you guys are bringing home 11 or 12,000,
could you throw 4,300 bucks a month of
debt? Cuz that's 8 months. You're all
the debt's gone. You can still live on,
you know, 78 grand.
3,000 bucks a month is 12 months and
you're done, man.
So, I think you can do this even sooner.
But you and your wife got to get on the
same page, get on a written budget, and
go, "All right, spit shake. we're going
to make this work. We're only going to
cover the necessary expenses. Every
other dollar is going to go towards this
debt. And I would start with that IRS
debt
for a short period of time. You start
with the IRS and then list the rest of
the debt, smallest to largest. Pay
minimum payments on everything but the
little one and attack the little one.
And let me help you with this. The
interest rate on $13,000 worth of credit
cards when you pay it off in eight or
nine months is irrelevant.
The amount of math on that, the actual
dollars that math creates is irrelevant.
It's not the problem. If you're going to
keep the credit card for 15 years, the
27% interest rate's a problem. But we're
going to keep it for 15 minutes. You
need to cut them all up. A TV credit
card. Come on.
Was that T? I don't know. TD. Maybe TD
Bank. Maybe that was it. I couldn't hear
it.
Oh, I thought he bought something off
the television.
Oh gosh. I hope not.
Yeah, like like shopping channel.
People still doing that?
Yeah, that's what I thought. But yeah, I
maybe I misunderstand. I can't. But
anyway, anyway, the great news is you
have a small amount of debt in ratio to
your income and you can clean this up
really quickly once you guys decide that
that's what you want to do. If you want
to work a different plan, you called the
wrong place cuz we're going to get you
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