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Start budgeting for free today. I'm 22
years old. Uh I'm currently making about
$30 to $90,000 a month and I am trying
to figure out when to make the jump into
real estate. Uh because that's kind of
where I want to take my end goal. Wow.
Wow. Zach, we just talked to a caller
who makes $850 a month. Yeah. Can you
spare some change for our friends? Yeah,
I did hear that. What are you doing to
make 30 to 90,000 a month? What? So, um,
primarily day trading, uh, the
specifically the futures market. Okay.
How did you learn about this? And are
you using a platform? How does this all
work?
Yes. So, um, I've been like practicing
uh for about three or four years now.
And then I decided to uh my initial
investment of $3,000 into an evaluation
for a few prop firms. Yep. And
essentially, you use their capital and
then you normally get to keep anywhere
from 70 to 90% of the profits that you
make. And so I did that back in October
and I was able to pay my student loans
off by doing it. And I got a major in
finance from Lipkcom and I graduated in
December. And so I kind of decided that
if I'm going to go all in on this, I'm
might as well do it now and see where it
took me. And how long have you been
doing this? So with the live funded
accounts uh since February or March.
Okay. Which is using your own money? Uh
no. So it's just the firms primarily at
this point in time. So here's the
question. If you're so good at this, why
not use your own money?
Uh yes. So a lot of the times right now,
um I don't have $150,000 that I want to
invest in it. Um and I'm well aware of
the risks and if someone else is going
to take on the risk for me. Um, I was
raised a Ramsy kid, so you know, the
less risk and the more success then
that's kind of where I was going with
it. Okay. So, what happens if you make a
bad trade, you get kicked out of these
prop firms, right? Yes. So there are
systems in place to where um essentially
um I have certain like draw downs that I
can hit and a lot of times with every
single trade I take I normally try and
move um the stop loss which
automatically sells me out of the market
to break
even. And so at that point it's um I
don't want to say it's impossible to
lose money by any means whatsoever. Um
but like a bad day would be me breaking
even or only losing about a thousand or
two. Okay. How much money do you have
now that is liquid?
Um, about $50,000.
What are you doing with the rest of this
money?
So, uh, I had to pay off my student
loans cuz I paid for my own college.
Okay. Um, and then I'm, uh, been in the
process of trying to move, um, just
somewhere else in Nashville. Um, so
that's taken up a little bit, a little
portion of it, um, because it was like
the first months, last months, and that
whole thing. Um, and then, um, I tried
to put away some for taxes because I
have to do it. Obviously, I get taxed
after.
You're going to get hammered with taxes
if you're making 30 to 90,000 a month.
Yes. Set aside 40%.
I have been. My godfather is a CPA, so
he's been trying to inspire me with some
words of wisdom and he was he's been big
on like the 40 or 42%. Yes. So, and do
you have any debt left? I do not. No.
Good. And that 50k, let's call that your
emergency fund plus some.
Yeah. So that'll be like my emergency
fund. Um and then you know like
something else happens like with family
or you know I like to take care of the
people around me. So Okay. And what's
your question today?
I am trying to figure out so I've always
wanted to get into real estate. Um and
so I'm trying to figure out when the
best time would be to make that move and
to start investing in real estate as
well because the trading only takes me
about maybe 3 or four hours a day. And
so that's kind of where I'm missing out,
I think. And by real estate, for you to
own properties, for investment, for you
to flip and make um make a spread,
investing, and then I would try and do
fix and flips when I could when I have
the time. Okay. So, you're wanting to
buy and hold and put renters in is what
you're thinking. Oh, absolutely. Yes.
Okay. And obviously Middle Tennessee,
it's not cheap right now. So, I was kind
of wondering the best way to go with
that. Yeah, for sure. Um, yeah. Well,
well, with real estate, we always say if
you're going to go beyond your primary
residence, you want to do it with cash.
And so, being able to buy to own a home
first. Well, ideally, yes. To have a
primary residence before you go and
start doing um investment real estate.
Yes. So, that would be um that would
probably be the that would be my goal
for you, Zach, honestly, would to be to
move out of your parents and get a place
of your own. Um and and start renting.
Oh, you're not living with parents.
Yeah. No, so I I moved down here from
college. My family is in uh another
state. Oh, I got Okay. Um so, I've been
renting and then I just sign another
year-long lease u by myself. I gota What
are your monthly expenses right now? all
in. Uh probably only about three or four
at most. That's probably an expensive
month. Okay. So, let's call it four
grand. So, you're telling me if you make
30 grand, you set aside, let's say, 40%
of that,
right? So, you'd still have about 15
grand left to just throw into savings
accounts every single year. I mean,
every single month. Yes, sir. So, that
you could save up a whole lot of money
in a year. I mean, you could have a down
payment ready in six months
ideally. Yes. Yeah. So the real estate
side of the investment portion is it is
great but it does it's not for income
producing right it's more to hold like
you make money on that at the buy and
then when you end up selling with all
the equity because you're holding it for
so long right I mean decades for more of
a longterm instead of short-term right
yes that's right that's right so um so
yeah I mean I think it's a great goal
but I think I think the first step for
you Zach would be to get your to own
property yourself right you know um for
your primary residence before going and
investing and getting a rental home and
all of that because a lot of people do
it the opposite way. But what you'll end
up finding is you're not really going to
make a I mean the depending on the the
home obviously in the situation when you
do that kind of investing you're not
making a ton of money. I think a lot of
people have in their mind I'm sure
you've run the numbers. you're a smart
guy. But I think a lot of people in
their minds have this like, oh my gosh,
I'm making so much passive income. But
by the time, especially if you go take a
loan out, um, which a lot of people do
for investment real estate, you're
having to pay the mortgage, you're
having to pay, you know, fees on top of
that. You're having to pay, um, you
know, everything it is to be a landlord
for upkeep, all of it. And you're you
end up um, from a from a net to gross
standpoint with not a ton of cash. It's
not like a big cash cow to have all of
this like in a residential market having
one or two of these. So, um I just want
you going in eyes wide open just knowing
what you're getting yourself into and
that it's not I don't know. I just feel
like I see stuff like this all the time
on social media and my husband and I'm
like and it's not a bad thing. You know,
I like diversification. I like having
money in the market. I like having some
real estate. Like I think all of that's
really good, but it's not this thing
that's like, oh my gosh, it's going to
be making me a ton of money. if anything
flips will like that's where we've
actually seen, you know, from a
short-term perspective, actually see
some pretty great um returns because
you're not needing to wait on the market
to appreciate cuz it's been a little
stagnant the last few years and you can
get some really crappy houses and fill
and gut them if you know what you're
doing. I mean, that's a whole other
business that you have a buddy that's
willing to help me out to a certain
extent. And so um but then I would I
mean as of right now depending on even
even in like Annioch I might still have
to take out a loan for the initial part
but then I could pay it off by the time
I flip it. So that was the other right.
That's the that's that's the that would
be the wrong way to do it from Ramsay's
standpoint because that's what ends up
that's how Dave actually ended up going
broke is he borrowed on all these homes
and go out and then you get stuck and
you're having to sell it quickly because
you're like oh my gosh you know we have
to it's a flip and so we're needing to
make a profit and you end up selling it
for not as much as you want and then you
end up not making the spread that you
want and then it ends up going backwards
and it's not good. So cash is everything
and I would not count on this gravy
train of day trading for too long. I
would get out while you can when the
getting's good, but just know this may
not be a fiveyear career. So I'd find
something you can sink your teeth into
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