Do you ‘die before you die’ only once? In other words, is the dissolution of the ego or separate self a single occurrence, or is it an ongoing process?
Rupert says: ‘Very occasionally, this happens just once. But for most of us, it’s a series of near-death experiences. We get a glimpse of our true nature and if, for the sake of this conversation, we credit the separate self with an existence of its own, we can say that it dies as a result of this glimpse.
‘But in almost all cases, through force of habit, the separate self reconfigures itself again. We find something that brings us back to our being and then the separate self reconfigures itself again. So, for some time there is this back and forth. But every time we go back to our true nature, we weaken the power that objective experience has to take us away from our self. In other words, we become established in our true nature.’
*This video is from one of Rupert’s in-person retreats at Castello di Titignano, 20–29 August 2023. For more information on upcoming retreats (many of which can be attended online via livestream) go to:
I was wondering about today's meditation, it's again about dying, but it's now about
this dying before dying, and I'm wondering if this is something that just like happens
once and then there's this experience that you keep for the rest of your life or if it's
something that like has to happen more often or like the question is could this also like
turn into a kind of practice I can watch my mind like already trying to to find like okay
how can I do that yes it very occasionally this this dying before we die happens just
once but for most of us it's a series of near-death experiences you go through the process
of of dying but then you come back again you get a glimpse of your true nature that is we taste our
being our being tastes itself as it essentially is that is divested of all the qualities that it
borrows from the content of experience but that is the death of the separate self
it's not really a death of the separate self there was no separate self there to die
but let's for the sake of this conversation credit the separate self with an existence of its own and
say that that separate self dies in this glimpse or taste recognition of our true nature
but in almost all cases through force of habit the separate self reconfigures
itself again but it's never quite the same it's been mortally wounded by this
glimpse of our true nature and that one who has had this glimpse is haunted by it
for the rest of their life and that and and as a result there is this
it keeps nagging them they can't quite go back to their old life and even if they do
there's something in the background that keeps knocking on the door and sooner or later
we pay attention to that and we find a book or a friend or a youtube clip or something
that gives us a pathway whereby we can
retrace our steps back to our being and taste or know ourselves again recognize ourselves again
again through force of habit the separate self reconfigures so that for some time there's
this back and forth so it's not one death it's a series of near-death experiences
where our being is temporarily divested of its limitations we have that
recognition of the pure I am and then we go back so there's this back and forth but
every time every time we return through our effort or practice or conscious intention
every time we go back to our true nature we are weakening the power that
objective experience has to take us away from ourself that pull of experience that to take
us away from ourself it gets weaker and weaker every time we counteract it and go back to
ourself and as it becomes weaker and weaker we notice that we don't just visit so to speak our
true nature for brief moments we spend longer periods of time there less and less experiences
have the capacity to take us away from ourself in other words we begin to be established in
our true nature and it could be that there are always just one or two experiences that retain
the capacity to take us away from ourself but that takes place less and less often
and when it does take place it lasts for less and less time and so in that sense like the
meditation we did this morning to me it almost felt like a near-death experience so everything
vanished yes i i hope that this morning's meditation would precipitate a near-death experience in in all
of us yes if not permanent death but a near-death experience would be would be sufficient yeah
oh that's great