Will Witt Interviews Douglas Murray | Interviews

hello everyone this is will wear with Praeger you today we are joined by Douglas Murray who is the author of the strange death of Europe how are you doing today very good thank you and you are filming a video today yes that's right filming a video for Prager you yeah could you give us a little rundown about what that's about it's um it's a it's busy about my most recent book the strange death of Europe immigration identity and Islam and about the massive events that are going on across the continent that I'm from mm-hmm and so how do you see America parallel to what's going on in Europe right now one thing most interesting is I keep on getting American readers writing to me saying this is about us as well isn't it and you know it is it's it's Europe is going through a massive crisis at the moment but the debates we are sort of having to live through are very similar to the ones that you're having to to go through here a lot of questions that we all need to be thinking about and addressing and we just in my view a further down the road in Europe on some of these questions and you are here how do you go about stopping this mass immigration well it's not easy the first thing is though is that you have to make a clear distinction between things that are legal and things that are illegal there is a massive attempt to raise that matter as if there's a border line there that should be blurred and you know the difference between what is legal and what is illegal is about the biggest difference you can get in you know nation's life and so that's that's just one thing but there's a whole set of practical suggestions I given the book of how to slow it down at the very least government by the way always say things like you know there's nothing we can do it's what I described is the fatalistic final stage they say you know this is globalization there's nothing you can do people come and I think this is a terrible terrible mistake as well as being untrue and don't forget by the way these are the same government's very often that that claim that they can they can arrange what the temperature is gonna be in the year 2100 okay so don't believe people when they say that yeah well there's always something that you can do immigration more border security do you believe in a wall do you think that could be something that could work look if it's necessary then then yes if there's no other way then yes people by the way there's this constant theme at the moment particularly the left does this thing of saying the anti borders movement on the Left says you know they were saying bike build build bridges not walls is the dumbest line I've heard against some really stiff competition in recent years and and that that line yes it sorry the bridges or walls I invite those people to come to London where after three massive terrorist attacks last year all of our bridges are now covered in walls so it's not an either/or thing yeah well they want open borders but then they also want a welfare state as well yeah and somebody made the point recently that we've got bollards around every major public building these days in Britain France and elsewhere in Europe as I think Mark Steyn said well how about just making a really big set of bollards ie a border around the outside instead of just keeping on ball adding in everything inside the country you know there's an idea yeah speaking of walls though and uh you know our current administration in America they want to build a wall do people in Europe take so kindly to administration we have here gosh I don't think your current president is a absolute favorite of European publics well all sorts of reasons but you know I by the way I mean it's not entirely new I mean although I think you know the European public voted Obama for life pretty much his predecessor was was I think at least equally hated I remember the protests against George W Bush when he came to London I think it's it's it's a real shame this because there are all sorts of criticisms you can make of President rumbas or of any administration but to be in the situation that for instance we're now in in Britain where you know you know the state visit has been postponed the state visit of Donald Trump to London has been postponed because of pressure from the Mayor of London Sadiq Khan and a very vocal lobbie of leftists who say you know he's not welcome in our country with his views you know we had the Chinese leadership a couple of years ago and by the way President Trump has made visits to France to Germany to Poland Belgium perfectly you know Peverley unmolested by a rampaging mob of a public so I have any weight him very embarrassed that we've got this stage where a state visit by the President of our closest the most important ally the United States of America feels that he shouldn't come to London why is it that the UK is much more progressive and leftist than these other European countries well I'm not sure it is that I mean everyone's sort of equally you know on that continuum I think is all sorts of things we we're sort of vulnerable to that virtue signaling class these days my own view maybe this sounds kind of francophone ik but the French are very cynical about these sorts of things you know I mean they might not like Donald Trump all that much but you know they want to do business in Britain we're sort of we're stuck in this like we'd like to do business we'd like business as normal but these really loud harridans of the sort of you know virtue signalling left who seem to have as a full-time job in the desire to be on the streets every day of the week protesting against anything that they don't like where they get their income well Trump is still getting business done regardless that's going on I'd like to thank you for joining me today speaking Mandarin I look forward to his Prager you video coming out very soon thank you everyone this is will win Douglas Murray thank you