Fireside Chat with Dennis Prager: Ep. 38 | Fireside Chat

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Mar 11, 2025
Dennis talks about values, crime, and the wisdom of the bible.
hi everybody welcome to my home and this
is my home as I tell you every week this
is my study and this is my fireside chat
I'm Dennis Prager it's an honor to be
with you this is completely unscripted
completely spontaneous and it's just a
way for you to know me a little better
and to have a sense of what I stand for
on the assumption which it may be a big
one that you're interested but if you're
not interested I don't know why you'd be
watching so I think it's a fair
statement that you might be interested
and I get to know you a little better
because I get your questions so what I
do is each week I begin with a some
thoughts on some subject and then I take
your questions
so I'd like to offer you a theory of
mine that will be very helpful to you in
life whatever your age whether you're 10
or 90 this is a it's a very helpful
insight I have a three mirrors theory of
life the first mirror is the mirror of
the body or the face that's the physical
mirror everybody knows that if you want
to know what you look like
you look in the mirror right very simple
but I want to give you two other mirrors
that exist in life that are not nearly
as obvious one is how do you know what's
in your mind what's the mirror of your
mind
we know the mirror of your body and face
the physical mirror so how do you know
what's in your mind how do you get to
look at it how can I have it I look at
it you can look at your at your face and
body looking forward how could you look
at your mind and the answer is by
writing writing is what tells you what's
in your mind it's a very tricky thing
though or not tricky as much as risky
because what you might find out if you
write is
it's not too clear I came to realize
this very early because I was I always
wrote starting in high school I loved
writing and I wrote and I remember when
I would look at a first or second draft
of what I wrote and it wasn't clear and
I realized I know why it's not clear
what I wrote because it's not clear what
I thought but I wouldn't have known that
I wasn't clear in my thinking if I
didn't write it down
that's the beauty of writing that's also
what I realized it in another way when I
was in college and I read some textbooks
written by some college professors in
what we call what is the academia that's
right that's the language and I realized
this was a very important insight for me
I came to the following conclusion
sometime in college if I read something
that any writer whether it's a professor
or not if somebody wrote something and I
read it twice and after the second time
I still didn't understand it I never
assumed that the reason I didn't
understand it is that I'm not bright
enough not because I thought I was very
bright but because I realized nananana
it's because the writer is either not
bright enough or more probably or more
probable because the writer is not clear
and that's exactly what happened so let
me just tell you if you're in college I
assure you you have ample intelligence
to read something that's clear and
understand it so if you are reading
something and it doesn't make heads or
tails you can't make heads or tails of
it in the very first or second read then
there's something wrong with the writer
what they do though a lot of professors
not all by any means but a lot of
professors what they do is they write in
very complex English or French or German
whatever the language they write of in
very complex prose and they hide the
fact that they don't know what they're
talking about that way it's a great
gimmick I mean I could read to you and I
have I've read
my radio show examples of things from
textbooks and they're long and they have
they almost always have the word matrix
in them for some reason this is a very
popular word in academia how was the
last time other than referring to the
movie that you've used the word Matrix
when they start using words that you
never use
that's a beginning tip-off to I'm trying
to hide something from the reader to
sound very bright but anyway back to my
original thought if you write something
now I'm not talking about a well
actually I am I'm talking I guess I am
talking even if you write a nonfiction
you know a history of the Luxemburg in
the nineteenth century you know in a
paper for a history class but whatever
it might be especially if your to your
thoughts though that's what I was
getting at if you write what you think
about a subject this is what I think
about let's say gun control this is what
I think about war this is what I think
about capital punishment and it's it's
not clear that's because you're not
clear and by the way that's not a sin
not to be clear it's a sin to think
you're clear when you're not but it's
not a sin not to be clear that is why it
is imperative that somebody honest read
your works and what we have in the last
twenty five years in America is teachers
are increasingly not honest and talking
about now elementary and high school
because they don't want to hurt the
feelings of the student so they they
won't say as teacher said to me thank
God I thank them they would circle a
sentence in red they were not afraid of
triggering trauma in me they would
circle it in red and they would say
doesn't make sense my parents would do
that if we talked for example at the
dinner table
they had no compunctions about when I
was 10 forget when I was 18 when I was
10 Dennis excuse me doesn't make any
sense and I would think and I
yeah it doesn't make any sense it
sounded good but it didn't make any
sense
you need a critic of your writing to
realize what's happening
otherwise you'll write you'll read it
and since it's totally what you think
you'll think oh this is great
but in fact doesn't make sense so the
mirror of the mind is writing and the
clearer you write the more obvious it is
that you think clearly my third of my
final mirrors what is the mirror of your
character so I could see my my physical
body and in a physical mirror I could
see my mind in writing how do I see my
character want I guess think about it
for a moment
well what is a great mirror of your
character all right here's the answer
the people you attract into your life
bad people do not attract good people
into their lives it's just the way it
works that's why we always speak about
who people hang out with it's a big deal
who you hang out with a because they
influence you and B because it may say
something about you if you repeatedly
are with people that are just not decent
not good not kind then there's something
about you that is attracting them
something you'd have to look into and I
tell you it's it's I I have tried to
live by what I am talking to you about I
have I have obviously tried to use
writing as a mirror and I the thing I
work hardest on and I write a lot and
the thing I work hardest on in in every
column and in every book is clarity and
I have a very simple theory I do all the
work so that the reader does no work
that's how I look at my the writing that
takes a long time and then I how do I
know how how would I or anybody know do
I have a drive a good character am I
good person now everybody's flawed I'm
not I didn't say are you perfect I said
are you good well not everybody's good
obviously if everybody were good there'd
be nobody in jail I mean people do bad
things as you know so I was very very
moved early in life and even more so
later in life that the people I seem to
attract were pretty kind and that that
meant a lot to me I I the richest part
of my life is the people in my life and
I think that a lot of people would would
say the same thing it's it's not only
true about character who you attract
into your life it's it's true about a
whole host of things for example most
most people like happy people in their
lives if you tend to find that you have
unhappy people in your life
it's also worth trying to figure out why
why am i attracted all these unhappy
people though these are very tough by
the way it's tough to look at your
writing honestly and it's tough to look
and make an assessment of the type of
people you draw into your life these
could be very painful exercises but so
what could be a painful exercise to look
in the mirror in the physical mirror and
then what do you do you try to look
better trying to lose weight or you try
to take care of yourself try to stay
clean I mean their whole host of things
fix your teeth right it's up to you so
those are my three mirrors theory of
life and it's worth we're thinking about
the tough
thank you for indulging me I can't do
this while I speak from a podium I can't
do this when I do my radio show but I
can do it in my house all right up to
your questions
Rachel twenty-seven Davis California
with the suicides of Anthony Bourdain
and Kate Spade bringing mental health
back to public awareness what is your
perspective of what needs to be done to
deal with the rising rates of depression
and general mental health look I don't
have any any unique answer that others
may not have and I'm not sure anybody
has a nobody has a complete answer there
but they're not the same questions
mental health and suicide they're
they're related obviously happy people
don't commit suicide so they're
obviously related but the vast majority
of the press people don't commit suicide
clearly and it's it's it's a the suicide
question is is its own issue and then
the depression issue is its own issue so
let me deal with this the second which
were you asked about by the way I am an
advocate of telling people who are
thinking of suicide that with with one
exception which I'll deal with in a
moment with a couple of exceptions that
I'll deal with in a moment I am so mad
ending up dealing with suicide for a
moment I would appeal to those thinking
of suicide to understand how they're
hurting people they love it's it's it's
it's clearly not a victimless crime and
I think people need to think about that
some people delude themselves into
thinking their family will be better off
if they kill themselves and their
friends will be better off but that's
that's not the case it's it's it's very
painful
someone you love commit suicide it's a
real kick in the teeth even though you
may not want to do that I I do recognize
some exceptions my my my stepsons father
committed suicide I wrote about this in
fact it's one of my columns from last
year or two years ago why my stepsons
father killed himself he killed himself
for a legitimate reason and I very
rarely say that and the legitimate
reason was he was denied painkillers for
excruciating pain he had endured as a
result of falling off a ladder and
smashing his ribs and his abdomen and
you know we're rightly very concerned
with people who are addicted to opioids
and a lot of people died from that but
we're not getting the opioids that are
legitimately needed by a lot of people
who are totally innocent victims of pain
they're there they're not even like on
the radar when we talk about opioid
addiction and this man just couldn't
take it anymore and no doctor would give
it to him they didn't know you know was
he for real of course he was for real I
knew the guy totally well he loved life
and there are other times where I
understand a suicide but by and large
it's a terrible thing as to the
depression
look-the there are two types of
depression at least one is physiological
there's something malfunctioning in the
chemistry of your brain and that can
only be handled or overwhelmingly be
handled I think by a proper drug and
proper medicine if you're you know if
your stomach is broken you we give you
medicine if your brain is are broken
then or your psyche is broken similarly
but I would argue this I think there's
another factor in in Western
Society and having acknowledged the
physiological the thing that brings a
lot of people to a sad semi depressed or
fully depressed state is lack of meaning
in life and I'm not the first to point
this out Viktor Frankl in his seminal
book man's search for meaning which was
one of the 10 books that most influenced
me that's on Dennis Prager economy could
see though the list of the books and he
he was a psychoanalyst an Austrian who
would after the war to America and he
his theory was among as many theories
his theory was that the greatest need
humans have is for meaning so Marx said
that our greatest need is economics is
in the realm of economics Freud said in
the realm of sex and Frankel said in the
realm of meaning but if you are take a
Freud I think even Freud would
acknowledge it is possible not to have
sex and and be happy if you have meaning
but if you had all the sex you could
imagine you ever would want and have no
meaning you will not be happy now
frankly I'm for sex and meaning but
nevertheless between the two there's
really no comparison meaning and what we
have we have a very great problem this
is for the first time in human history
Western Europe has created a godless
society now whether you're an atheist a
believer an agnostic I don't care I just
care that you intellectually honest and
recognize that this is a radical
experiment in human history that people
can find meaning without God so by the
way sometimes they do a lot of times
that meaning
is pretty dangerous Christianity died in
Europe so we got Nazism and communism
that's pretty dangerous stuff but they
both gave people meaning so there's good
meaning and there's bad beating make all
of these things are factors in the in
the in the problem of depression and
sadness in modern society also one other
reason you know a lot of people are
alone loneliness is a national epidemic
in the United States and that too is
related to of the death of religion most
religious people have friends not all
but most do they meet them at church
they meet them at synagogue if nothing
else they meet him at Bible class but we
don't have substitutes for that in
secular life you're gonna meet them at
at Yoga
maybe yes by the way I have no problem
if you meet a good friend of yoga but my
experience at my workout place in
Southern California where I go three
times a week I don't see any nobody's
talking to anybody
half of them have earphones on while
they work out you can't even say hello I
don't care I my cup runneth over with
friends I'm not looking to make friends
at the my workout gym but that was a
place where people did meet and even now
they don't because everybody's tuned
into his little or her little world so
there are there are a lot of factors of
modern life loneliness religion Les Mis
and so on okay I was a long answer to a
short question how are we on time
gentlemen good christena 20 Westwood
California do you think that AI
artificial intelligence is a danger to
humanity why or why not careful they
might take your answer into
consideration that's very funny any
robots listening I don't care about you
I'm afraid the as I get most of my
wisdom from a book that there's no
longer widely read called the Bible
where America's founders got their
wisdom and so many other brilliant
people there's a great story there about
the Tower of Babel where it's in book of
Genesis where these people they were
enamored of their technological
abilities and they built a tower that
whose in the words of the Bible whose
top reached into the heavens and they
said let's make a name for ourselves so
we're making a name for ourselves with
artificial intelligence some of it some
of which is very good and very helpful I
acknowledge but some of it may not be
eventually and I fear that it may
substitute for people for real human
contact I fear that it will also perhaps
they like they could be programmed to be
very destructive and that's that's very
scary to think about I mean then you
literally have monsters but I'm telling
you the the substitute for humans with
virtual reality and with artificial
intelligence already I because I follow
this stuff avidly there's a booming or
burgeoning maybe it's not booming yet I
hope it isn't of artificial intelligence
sex dolls and and men are I mean it's in
Japan it's somewhat booming in America
it's developing and elsewhere where men
won't even seek real female
companionship bill they'll have their
artificial intelligence female doll and
that's that's not a healthy development
that's one of many examples
what would you say brandon 17 memphis
tennessee why would you say to someone
that says the political party switched i
would say huh that's what i would say i
don't know what they're talking about
you'd have to eat you'd have to give me
an example of where the party switched i
I can't think of any offhand basically
Republicans have been for smaller
government than Democrats have been for
bigger government they haven't switched
there are Republicans also for bigger
government I'll admit that but they were
note and there were no Democrats for
smaller government but I don't know
where they switched so I can't with it
this is a good example by the way and
this is really helpful in general you
are much clearer when you give an
example of something of some
generalization you make if you read
anything I've written I give this is the
way I write the generalization followed
by example after example after example
without examples I'm a big believer in
generalization so generalizations help
mess help us understand the world
because it means that we see patterns
and that's that's intelligence but
you've got to give substance to your
generalization if you say seatbelts save
lives and you need to give some data the
following percentage of people who died
in car crashes did not wear seatbelts
that would be that would be a perfect
example of substantiating the
generalization but in this case I don't
know how the parties have have switched
sides so I would need to I would need to
have some examples and then I would be
able to answer I guess go to a final
question is that what we're up to
yeah Nathan in England have you Oh
Schiphol but who cares you don't care
what so why should I care
have you ever abstained from voting and
do you think it is ever okay to abstain
from voting I'm gonna sound I vote every
election I mean I'm sure I may have
missed something of the country or
whatever but an aye vote in virtually
every election however I don't I don't
have the belief that we have to insist
that everybody votes or that if if oh if
only let's say 60% of the country any
country votes it's a bad sign I don't
know why it's a bad sign that means but
how do we know that the other 40% just
don't think it matters that much maybe
they're just happy and you know they
they they don't feel this great
compulsion to vote I don't want to push
somebody to vote unless they have they
stand for something now I think there's
so much at stake at elections right now
in America that I can't imagine meeting
someone who says that it doesn't matter
I mean I can imagine meeting there but I
can't imagine not responding to them it
matters great deal but I don't see it as
a flaw in a society if a chunk of the
society doesn't vote that's why I would
never make voting compulsory all you're
doing is compelling people who may not
have a clue as to what they're voting
for to vote I rather have informed
people and for informed people are only
50% of the society then fine I can
handle that it's a cliche that you have
to get everybody out to vote
are we good there you want to do another
one what do you think they're debating
and I'm on a roll I'm always on a roll
otherwise I get boring and then if I get
boring nobody's gonna tune in one more
what are your views this is from Brendan
maybe it's Brendan I never heard of a
Brendan Jujubee there is a Brendan oh I
know Brendan 22 in Tennessee what are
your views on America's high
incarceration rate
okay fugly contrary to a lot of what you
read most people were in prison for
violent crime or or for or or for
white-collar crime but but not for drugs
not for or at least not for it's simply
owning a drug okay the Americas high
incarceration rate is a sad is a sad
fact because it means that a lot of
Americans commit crime that's very sad
but my biggest reaction to the high
incarceration rate is not whoa we have a
mixed up criminal justice system my
reaction is we have a mixed up
population means a lot of people are
committing crimes
you know why the crime rate has gone
down since the 1980s because we put more
people in prison that's the reason you
can't go out and rob a store or mug a
person or a rape or murder if you if
you're in prison
that's the sad fact of life now why do
we have a lot of people in prison oh why
are a lot of Americans committing crimes
that's another subject but everything in
my view everything ultimately comes down
to values that's it how good values been
passed on to the next generation
which leads me to a final thought here's
a question for you what is the single
most important question society needs to
answer answer how do you make good
people because if we don't answer that
we won't make good people and then we'll
have a lot of murder and corruption and
theft and all bad things
however it's never asked today almost
never I should say I shouldn't say never
almost never people ask how they can
make good students how do I get my kid
to have good grades
they say how do I get my kid socially
active for the environment let's say and
that's really nice but there's no
correlation between being a good person
and being a good activist they're not
the same thing
when a lot of people think they are the
same thing but they're not you can March
for every cause you like but you still
may be a bad person in in daily life so
that's the question we need to ask how
do you make good people and I know that
because I accepted the biblical view of
humans from a very early age
we're not basically good it's easy to
cheat it's not easy to be fully honest
right it's easier to be ungrateful than
to be grateful you any example you want
to give how do you raise a grateful
person that's a good example of
something a parent should be preoccupied
with well those are some of today's
thoughts from my home to yours thank you
for watching I'll see you next week
I'm definite what I'm did Ematic Linda
Bowman candy Baba how did I stumble on
I'm Dennis Prager I mean that is really
hilarious
it's not like a new name I've had the
same name since birth I'm Dennis Prager
thanks for watching
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