PSA M110-ish [Sabre-10] to 1,000yds: Practical Accuracy and the "AR10 training rifle" concept

This video is brought to you by Slate Black Industries. For grips and accessories, visit slateblackindustries.com Let's do the things my dude. It's time for the PSA M110 we have at home to shine, to show its quality. Quality you say? The best, Henry, the best. Come on. Right? Yeah, I'm on at 150. Yes, sir. Okay, 200. All right, 200. Impact and impact just right of center. Okay. Gotta say, this is definitely not a pleasant recoiling rifle, but it has not jammed. All right. These are, these are measures of success, Henry. Yes. All right, 250. 250. Dead center chest. All right. No, I'm honestly not sure about that second shot. I mean, obviously it was a hit. Yeah. I don't know where it was. I mean, 175 grains of fury going down range. All right. 300. 300. Impact. Impact. I mean, is this distance really necessary for 308? Uh, I mean, official answer, no. Hitting something with a large frame gas gun, like inside of 300 is pretty ruthless. Yep. All right. I'm at 350. All right. Impact. Did you know what the elevation looked like? I think it was just like really good. Just over center. Yep. Okay. Solid hits. Basically center. Just high. Just highest center by, you know, whatever the answer to. 1.5. All righty, sir. Things are going smooth so far. Yes. I'm on it for. Okay. Yep. Yep. Just as good as Josh's $5,000 AR-10. Stop it, Henry. Stop it. I'm on it for 450. Okay. Let's see. So that one was about 1.8, I think. Yeah. Okay. I think you're probably in the low, like you were below center. Ah, so that's 2.0 then. I think 2.0 is a good call for that. Yeah. Okay. Probably about 2.5 here, you think? Yeah. I'm going to put the, basically I'm going to put the two on the head. Okay. Sounds good. I'm there for it. Hold. Yep. That was in the upper chest, almost at the neckline. I would go neck hold here for your second shot. Oh no. Oh no. Windage. Flash off the right. Press left half target. Impact. We did get it. That was tough because your windage on the shot right before it. It was on, right? I mean, it was an inch right of center. I shouldn't have been blade running and sticking the two at the head, to be honest. All right. 500. Let's see. All right. 3.0, a little bit left. Press to the left edge. That impact was on the right edge. Impact. Solid hit, upper chest. All right. So we're at 500 for the next cartridge, for the next ones we have. These are single shot hits, right? That's right. DMR course, dial, sir. Okay. The next target is at 625. 4.5 is what I have. Oh, 4.5. Got it. Yep. Okay. I'm actually going to dial this one now. All right. Yeah. 4.5. Dial up 4.5. And I'm going to hold what? 0.5 to the left. I'm ready. Fire when ready. Impact. Nine o'clock on the plate. All right. Do you want another one? I mean, I'm good. Okay. We're doing DMR course, right? Yes. I have it dialed in at five mils. Hold off 0.5 to the left. Ready? Yeah. I'd ease your hold. Okay. Hold, hold, hold, hold, hold. Wind shift. Okay. Right to left now. Okay. I'm going to hold dead on. I'm trying to see if there's anything like a wind channel further out. I mean, okay. It looks like a headwind. Oh no, you're right. Hold dead on. Engage. Low? No. Impact, sir. Impact. Okay. There's no flex on that plate. No, that bird is a stout old girl. Very stoic. Stoic. Gets drilled with 175 grains and just takes it. Yeah. As they say, the trad bird. Ben Franklin was onto something. Okay. All right. I have us on at 835. Okay. Um, what do we think for mil call on this? Around eight? Eight. Sounds good. I'll drop eight. Oh, just over the top. Oh, I see. I see it. Ready? Yep. Impact. Solid hit. Very nice. Very bad. Sir, the PSA 110. How does it come? Little tight. Well, A, first of all, I'm not sure why you're unloading because we know that if we had a run like that, I'm going to force you to shoot a further target even if you don't have the dope for it yet. Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. But to be honest, like, dude, pretty solid work there. Yeah. Honestly. Okay. So the more I shoot the PSA 110, the more I think it's actually a really good training rifle for the gas guns. Yep. I would agree, especially at the price point. That's something we should talk about a bit more here. I will say that if you use it as a training rifle and you don't need to clone anything, the stock, my, the first thing I would get rid of is a stock. This is basically, this is basically a, I mean, it's even a plastic butt plate too. So it's not even like the, the top shelf M 16 stocks. It's super lightweight. So you feel everything. There's no cheek adjustment. Feel the pain, Henry. Yeah. Well, with that said, I'm going to make you shoot again. See that white glowing square for the backs furthest to the left behind the eight 35 target. Yep. That's nine 11. What about about a nine and a half holes? You think? Okay. Let's try nine half. Cause you were what? Just under eight at the last one. Yep. No, just eight. You were at eight. Yep. But it's splashed high, right? Yes. Yeah. So maybe just an eight basehold. So maybe this is nine and a half basehold ish. Okay. Let me try it. Ready? Yeah. I'm there. Nine half basehold, zero hold off on good elevation. Splash was a full target length to the left, which makes sense. We just got a full right to left wind here. Press right. One full target re-engage. Oh, that's the curse of the AR 10. No, did it? Yeah. Jam fest. Yes. Schmuckers. The ham in French, by the way, back in the fight, back in the fight. That's all it took. Ready? Yep. So you're, you're pressing right here. Yeah. So the wind calls completely fucking off now. Thanks. Yeah. When, when's a little bit slower, I'd go at least off the right a bit here. Okay. Half a target off the right. So 0.5 mils to the right basehold engage. Oh no. Is that right about where you held? No. Well, uh, the windage is basically now zeroed out. Splash just low on the left edge. Impact, impact, impact, impact. All right. You want a confirmation on that or you want to just move to the thousand? No, we're just going to go right to a thousand, my boy. Okay. Right side target. Yep. Right side target. 11.5 right edge. Ready? Fire when ready. That was way high. Do you think it splashed and skipped up there? That was like way high. I didn't do another one. See what it is. Yeah. Way high. Way high. Okay. So almost see how it does. Ready? Yeah. Oh, splash low on the right. Impact. Nice. Dude, the PSA. Out to a thousand. It's a, it is a thousand yard gun. Yeah. Pretty much just as good. I mean the misses, the misses that we had on those right there are really just us figuring out the dope on it, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's just figuring out the dope. So let's not count those just as good. So Henry, you were talking about how this is a probably like a quote unquote trainer when it comes to the large frame gas gun platform. I would agree wholeheartedly like for the price point that these come in at when you compare them to how much a full fledged actual gas gun goes for. Now granted there were a bunch of different, there were a bunch of different manufacturers at varying price points. Yes. But this is, this is on the very low end of that spectrum. 15. Yeah. So the, I think one hilarious thing that I was talking to Josh about was the prospect of, ah, should I use this barrel? Should I put this barrel on it? Should I put the suppressor on it? And Josh brought up that if the barrel does get shot out, it's actually cheaper to just buy another one. Well, it wasn't just if the barrel got shot out, it was like, yeah, I'm not sure about the durability of the platform. Like I'm not sure about all these other factors. Yeah. I mean, if it, if it 5,000 rounds of match ammo later, if it dies and because the gas system gets blown out or something like has a catastrophic failure of some sort, like you can just get a different one. Like if you've shot several thousand rounds of match ammo, like, I mean, that's where the real money is. Yeah. So, I mean, I think, I think a lot of times we get sucked into this idea of I'm going to build this into the ultimate that, but the concept of a training rifle is not necessarily a disposable rifle, but a rifle that you wouldn't, it wouldn't break your heart if you wore it down. And the real value you get from that is the experience gathered from shooting it. That's right. Now, again, the thing that I dislike about this is how it's, it's a little bit too light in my opinion, feeling a little bit, and, and it's not that I can't, yes, I can shoot heavy recoiling rifles. That's not the point. Just, just isn't enjoyable to do so. Whether it's enjoyable or more importantly, the, the, you know, being able to get back on target for either re-engagement or observe your, your own, spot your own hits or misses. And that's important. So it depends. I mean, the, the one, the thing that it kind of, it falls in the bucket on is that it's also kind of a clone-ish, like it's, it's cloning the form factor of a, an M110, which we have shot on the channel, but it's been a long time ago. And I believe this actually outperformed the M110. I mean, I mean, Henry, I think we could probably shoot anything we shot back in the day when we first started shooting together on the show and probably do materially better. So Josh, what I'm trying to say is that must mean that it is just as good. Yes, just as good. Let's talk more about the concept of the training rifle over in the debrief. I am trying to deliberately hurt Josh. Well, hello there. You must have caught us at the Battalion Field Headquarters as we were about to break for lunch. We're trying to not have the MREs. I hear the boys in the field are quite fond of them. I hope you're enjoying the show thus far. Shows like this, they're brought to you by Slicked Black Industries. And more importantly, we have the support from the patrons of Patreon and Utreon. That's true. This group of men and women, they support us intellectually, financially, but most importantly, emotionally. So today, I'd like to invite you. Come, join us, become one of us. Together, we could plan to conquer the world of firearms technology. But if you cannot, that's all right. We completely understand. We'd be just as happy to hear from you in the comments section below. Well, without further ado, we'll leave you back to it. That's right. It is the PSA. Great value. Just as good. M110. Obviously, it cleared the course with only two misses. So shall we say it was AI-generated and obviously fake news? Because we had 1.5 to 2 MOA groupings on the potential accuracy episode that we published. And the comments section seemed to indicate that it is impossible for this rifle to shoot a torso-sized target out at distance. And yet, shoot it. Subtorsos, dude. Subtorsos most of the way. So shall we go to Vegas? Because we're very lucky. I just want to reiterate. There's going to be some feelings, I think, that we heard a little bit here, Henry. This is going to be a squashing of some misperceptions throughout this session. And I might come on a little strong here because, frankly, I'm sort of sick of seeing the same stuff parroted over and over and just taken as standard when, frankly, we look at this type of stuff and we're going, we're just not seeing this to be the case at all. And when we try to say that gently, people don't quite get the memo. Yeah, so Josh and I grew up in the gun forum world. Like you on Enos, reading a lot about 3Gun and competition stuff. I was on the surplus forums and stuff like that. The gun world is very good at perpetuating ideas and recycling them over and over and over again. And the downside is if you are in an environment where it is not easily vetted, it is not easily tested by people, then that continues to cycle. Now, we are blessed with an environment to shoot really long distances in a pretty secluded range. We get to see all of these theories played out actually in the field. And the trope of your rifle should be one MOA or you need to return it or somebody did something wrong. It's just, that is just the wrong, that's the wrong narrative. That is the wrong, wrong theory to perpetuate around. Even for AR-15s, I would say that, but even more so for large frame ARs. Now, I would say in the past, when we first started and we first started doing a lot of long range, barring the bolt actions, we all thought that, yeah, it should be better than one MOA. But the more we shot, the more we realized that this is just, that's just a really bad rule of thumb to follow. And you know what? I think we have to emphasize that point, Henry. Like, I thought a lot of that stuff too, which is why it's when we're actually doing it now and showing the data and being like, look, yeah, this gun, no, this gun isn't capable of shooting sub-inch, sorry. I mean, ours isn't, right? Like maybe another one is, but ours isn't. But you know what? It doesn't matter because an inch and a half group size, two inch group size, can clear C-zones out to like 700 and then sub-torso-ish targets out to like a thousand without too much issue. And that's where I just, the perception of how accurate these things should be or are is just, I think it's really, people have got it very wrong in many of these areas. But the downside is they can't test it. And us as testers, that puts us in a frustrating environment because we have to face people telling us these things, even though we're clearly seeing two MOA rifles can clear the targets out at distance easily. Because stand by for math here, and those out there who know what I'm talking about, your two MOA versus one MOA at 500 yards is five versus 10 inches, which is five inches versus 10 inches on a torso. Well within the strike area, the biggest thing is, are you getting your wind correct? Because if you're not getting your wind correct, it doesn't matter if it's a one MOA or two MOA rifle, right? And even if people say that it's torso is too big of a target, you should be aiming at something much smaller than that. It's like, that's fine. Like the C zones we're shooting at, I think are 12 inches wide. Yep. So smaller. Yeah. Okay. It's still within the bracketing of the target zone. It's deceptive. It looks a lot larger than it actually is. Look, if your goal is to have a gas gun that's shooting like actual legit one inch target or one MOA or two MOA targets at distance, because you're in some sort of a real precision gas gun environment or game, or you're playing the sport or a match or whatever, like, yeah, that's, that is different. But also then the type of gun and the price tag of the gun you're talking about in those areas is radically different. So that's an area where we can't confuse these things either. This thing all in Henry is what? 14-ish? 14, 15? Well, no, no, no. Like 14, but it comes with like a bunch of stuff that you end up selling off. So it's, the core rifle is actually less than that. If I go and I pick up like a JP for as a match gun or my TX10 or a Noveske or whatever else, some of these guns that we've actually, that we've actually shot that are actually printing large frame gassers actually printing one inch groups repeatedly or even better repeatedly. What's the price tag of these? I mean, I don't know about your Noveske, but the SR25 is like five to eight K and then the M1, the actual M110 is north of 10. I think it's close to like 15-ish. And shoot. Yeah. I mean the Noveske, which that one's like four, 45. So you're, you're looking at this, right? It's a price of the barrel of one of those things for the whole thing, all put together. In the past, I think, and this is something that we talked about in the past when we're looking at different rifles, one of the indications, and this is just an indication, like, like a hunch on whether a barrel is a good premium barrel or like a run-of-the-mill barrel, is to see the consistency of how it does across different types of ammunition. I have, we have shot, AI is probably the best example to see some of the most consistent barrels to be, to be shot on the course. And classic AIs, you could run it between five different types of match ammunition and the group size is almost the same. And then you run it with ball ammunition. In fact, my AW outshot this thing with match ammunition with ball ammunition. But it's crazy. It's inconceivable, right? But yeah, it's crazy. But then you think about that again, you know, the barrel for those things itself is what, like 800-ish? That's a grand. That's almost the price. It is the price of the gun. Yeah. So, if we're to be honest here, right, we need a little bit of expectation management. Relative to other large frame gas rifles, relative to premium bolt action rifles, this is a small fraction of it. However, however, does that mean that this thing cannot perform? Does that mean that this thing cannot shoot at those distances? No, not at all. And again, I think this is an important callout. You referenced the inconsistency. I think something that a lot of people noted was how bad this shot the ball group in our primer episode for this. Yeah, that sucked. That was not acceptable. It was not good. Yeah. And yes, are people going to probably buy this and want to be able to shoot ball out of it? Yes. That was disappointing. But if you look through any number of other videos of this rifle being shot, like a lot of them shot better with ball ammunition than this one did. So is it, like, again, it's inconsistent. It's not to say that all of these 110s can't shoot ball. In fact, some of the feedback we had was that, like, 150 grain hunting ammo shoots the best groups that certain people have tried out of it. So, yeah, the point here being, yes, there's going to be inconsistencies in these, for sure. But, on the balance, if you get one that is ultimately shooting 1.5 to 2-ish with match ammo, that is good to go for the purpose of actually being able to shoot at range with the gun. And that sort of transitions us, Henry, in my mind, into a next sort of viable talking point here, which is, what is this? What is this gun? What is it actually for? Is it a clone? Is it a lookalike? Is it, what is it? It's, I think the best way I've heard someone describe this is a tribute rifle. Because if you're looking for a clone, as it comes out of the box, no, just no. However, as you see, what I've done is put, like, an actual FDE A2 grip. I switched out the safety. I, same, the original trigger, some people thought it was changed out, but it's not. I fitted, like, CAC rail grips on it. Recently, I put a PRS stock on it, but it could be made to resemble an M110, in a sense that one thing that I pushed myself in doing when I was first starting in Precision Rifles is build out a trainer rifle. So, get a just-as-good copy, get a great-value copy, get a hill-country copy of the particular rifle that I, you, very much want to get into. And instead of spending the 8k, the 5k for an SR-25, spend PSA money to get into it, to figure out if this is something you like or not. Now, let's put this into perspective. How much does it cost for a case of 1,000 rounds of .175 grain Sierra Match King? It's like $1.50-ish a round, right? It's about $1.50 a round. Yeah. So, your SR-25, and then that case of ammunition that you'll get next, the 1,000 rounds that come in cases of 200 or 500, that 1,000 rounds that you use to shoot is worth the same thing here. You can get the experience, you can get some time on a trainer that duplicates some of those functions without putting down mortgage, down-payment money onto it. That right there is a good point, Henry, that needs to be highlighted. Within the space of guns and shooting, there were really capable, acceptable rifles in the... I mean, across all sorts of price spectrums, but specifically, I'm talking like when you hear $1,500 for a rifle, a lot of people, myself included, go, that must be a pretty nice rifle, right? That must be either in the middle of the band or approaching the high end of the band in terms of performance and status of that particular gun. It's certainly that way within the world of, I would say, the AR-15, which is what most of us attribute our market knowledge to performance versus cost and overall value. $1,500 on an AR, that's considered a nice AR here in 2024, or at least better than average. When you look at large frame gas guns, especially anything that falls into the precision variety, we're not talking like the basic AR-10 battle rifle setup, right? We're talking precision rifle stuff, which this is cloned into or this is set up as. Where's the general average? And we talked about this a minute ago, but it's like, you really can't start for somewhere less than the mid twos most of the time. Maybe low twos, maybe? And that's not even like low twos, mid twos isn't even something that is like, oh, that's nice. That's like baseline. Yeah, right, right, right, right, right. And then you go from there into the threes, fours, fives, and that's where you're hitting like the real, the premium stuff. So when I think about that in context, it's like, yeah, this is on like the way cheap end of that spectrum when you look at the spectrum in a vacuum. And that's important. You have to look at the performance spectrum of this particular category in the value spectrum of what you get for large frame gas guns. All right, Editor Josh here from the future. I do think it's worth pausing here quickly to say, we're talking about the concept of this budget trainer with the PSA 110 as the vehicle, because it's the rifle we just shot. This isn't to say that you can't replicate the concept with the large frame gas gun of your choice, whether it be a Ruger, an SNW, a Sig, an Arrow, whatever. If the accuracy is acceptable, any of these can be configured to work in this function. This isn't something the PSA is uniquely suited to do over all others, but it is ultimately where we see the PSA best fitting in a shooter's lineup. Okay, back to the debrief. So, I mean, it all comes down to being honest with yourself, right? What are you trying to do with it? Like, are you trying to go to war with it? I would highly, I would strongly suggest you not take this into war. Are you trying to get some experience on the rifle? Yeah. Like, are you trying to clone the M110? You would probably be disappointed because there are certain things on it that are just passionately different. Like, one of the biggest things that people gripe about is this trigger guard. From afar away, you can see that it looks clearly different, right? So, I don't, it's difficult to say that it's a clone rifle from form factor, but also from the performance factor. Like, some of the things that the M110 has, you outright just don't need. You don't need the sand cutter bolt, you don't need the the double plunger to push the cartridges out easier. Like, do you need, if you're a suburban person, right? Would you buy a Forerunner or would you try to find an MRAP and make it street legal? Both of them can transport people. You could very well put a child seat in the back of an MRAP. But do you need the fire suppression system? Do you need the ballistic windows? Do you need the crow turret system on top? Probably not. But would you, I mean, maybe a Forerunner you can take to do recon stuff, but a minivan, would you take that into a war zone? I mean, somebody would. You could, you could. There's a lot of Toyota, there's a lot of Toyota Hiluxes that have been driven around in wars. I think Ukraine and Africa have proven that a lot of people will do that. But do they do that because that's what they prefer, right? Sure. Do they do that because that's, that's the ideal. Duly noted, duly noted that again, if you're putting this in the perspective of a trainer rifle, the thing you really need to be able to see is will the rifle respond to your inputs when you, when you shoot it, right? Is it accurate enough that you can be engaging certain size targets, like targets that are identified in terms of size and practicing your marksmanship, practicing the battery of arms, manual of arms, practicing, let's say, managing the recoil of a, of a gas gun, a large frame gas gun. Can you do all of those things with this? And is it responsive enough if we say, come off half a mil because your call was, your call was wrong at 800. Come off half a mil. Yep. And that worked. It sure is. You missed it for windage, 450 windage, press left half target, like press left, click, bang, hit. Like, yes, it is responsive enough to do those things. And I think that's ultimately where, you know, where we have to draw that distinction. So there is something here, but if I may have, there is something here that I want to hit on, which is we had a jam on camera, on course. Yep. Reliability is a thing. And longevity is a thing. These are two different categories. In my mind, there's like, or you could call it long-term reliability and where and how the, how the gun performs with wear over time. And then in the immediacy of reliability, we have shot a lot of AR-10s and large frame guns now, pretty much across the board. Like we we've seen this to be true on these, on these AR-10 pattern rifles at some point. And it's not like, oh, it's so dirty. It's so ill taken care of. It's like, no, just like generally overshooting them. Guns are relatively well-maintained and relatively decent environment. We're not torture testing anything. All of them at some point or another have choked on ammunition. That's the curse of the AR-10. No. Disagree? No, I completely agree. I mean, that's, that's, I, look, I've seen that in Josh's frustrated face when I'm out there shooting my G3 based systems and it just eats everything that I put into it. I mean, granted it mangles the brass, but Josh is there like just hating life, dealing with suppressors, dealing with swapping ammunition and having some of these issues. Like we switch in, we switch an ammo. Yep. We put on a can, we take the can off, we shoot ball, we, you know, whatever, any of these things can result in, again, AR-10s just being generally finicky sons of guns. So the fact that this choked and had a malfunction, I don't know that I look at that and go, oh my gosh, this is the end of the world. I go, yeah, well, I kind of expect it to happen at this point. Like now maybe that's not good and it's not acceptable. You guys can extrapolate that. No, look at, you know, as you see, as you see fit. Look, so, so one of the cool things, one of the cool features that PS and I think this is cool because we've experienced jams and stoppages for AR-10s in the past. They put this five position field adjustable gas valve on top. Now, granted, I don't think it's like the optimum design. It's a pretty field expedient design. It's not like it would not probably go through a mil-spec trial, but it's a field expedient design to where it's usable. You can tune the gas for five settings on how much gas you put into it. Now, yes, if you run suppressors, that's good. It's also good if you're swapping between hotter, like 175 loads to 150 loads, you know, and pushing in between. Maybe our rifle, you don't want to shoot ball ammunition, but regardless, I think this is a pretty cool field expedient feature that's kind of like how the FALs work. The reason why FALs had that huge gas adjustment valve is because during the development of the FN FAL, they realized that the 308, the 7.62 cartridge was actually really difficult to gas for all these different countries they're selling to. So their solution is, let's just make gas adjustment valves on all of the FALs so they don't run into this issue. Now, the G3s, the little unknown fact that people don't throw around is that locking piece that's inside, they have a lot of different angles, and specifically when they sell to a country, they sell them the G3s with a data pack with that angle that matches the ball ammunition they issue. So I think with the tendency of 308 is that it's a little bit more difficult for semi-autos to handle than 5.56. Now, this is just a field observation. We don't know for certain. We'd like to delve into this with a little bit more time. A side effect, and Josh has laughed at me for this in the past, with his gas adjustment valve, I think it is actually really interesting to dial it to where it is like on the edge of jamming. And as you're shooting, as you're doing stuff, every now and then it'll jam and you have to work on your clearance technique and getting rid of the round and doing stuff like that. Henry has such little trust in the AR-10 platform, he has to practice malfunction clearances routinely with it. I actually, I personally do that. Now, I don't think, I highly doubt this is a thing, this is a feature that PSA put in there for that, but it's something that I do. This is a me thing. This is a me thing. And if you do that, you can maybe put yourself in a position to be able to clear those things a little easier in the future. But, and look, ultimately, this is what I'll draw back to. There's going to be numerous comments. I have a $1,000 S&W, it shoots sub MOA routinely and regularly, and it's never malfunctioned. Show us. Awesome, man. Like, that's great. If that is the case, and that's your experience, like, that's fantastic. I don't know how many of these you've shot, what the, what your, your overall experience is, like shooting at distance, whatever, like, that's awesome. If that's the case, it is not the norm, not the norm at all. And we can say that having now shot a bunch of stuff over the last seven or eight years, where, where we just had the, the opportunity to do it. And it's just sharing the experience across these things. If you have an outlier or an anomaly, that's awesome. Like, that's good. Shoot it. Don't sell that gun. Like, don't get rid of it, if that is the case. So, but also be very, let's be, again, to Henry's original point here, let's be realistic with ourselves about what it is we're looking at, and what acceptable performance factors are in terms of things like accuracy, groupings, and how that translates at range. The idea that all of these guns are inch, sub-inch, everything should be sub-inch, to your original point, Henry, it's just nonsense at this point. Like, it just, it isn't, I mean, maybe they should be, and that's what we should strive towards, but believing that that is the standard by which a gun is either good or not good, is nonsense. I will close it with this question. On the initial video that we posted on the, the core accuracy of this rifle, there were a lot of people who said that they would just buy this and switch the barrel out to like a proof or whatever, like a nicer barrel onto it. But then at that point, you've already crested the 2G range, and you voided the warranty. Is this something that you would do? Would you rather use this as that core training rifle, knowing that it has a lower accuracy threshold, or would you rather buy this to swap it out to keep the M110-ish look with a better barrel? Or would you outright just buy something that is ready-made? So, I'd be curious on what the audience prefers. All right, gang, as always, we appreciate you tuning in. We know that this was a little spicy, a little reality check maybe. Maybe you still think we just got it totally wrong. I'm sure we did. We're just two dudes. Let us know in the comments. Let us know, do we still have it totally wrong? 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