Steyr AUG LMG [HBAR] to 700yds: Practical Accuracy (Austrian Army Stg77 A1 Mod / A3SF)

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A Stendo.
With a Stendo.
Let's do it, Henry.
We go, we go.
Oh no, I need to Stendo the Stendo with a Stendo in it.
What's your initial thought, are you gonna have a,
are you gonna have flex from the barrel
causing dispersion with the barrel on that?
Okay, so couple things that we're trying to see here.
With this barrel, with this 24 inch barrel,
we've been seeing, I think it was 3,400 feet per second.
Is it spicy?
Very spicy.
I didn't know Austrians cooked spicy food,
but this obviously does, at 3,400 feet per second.
So that's the first thing,
because we want to see if we can maintain
a point of aim, point of impact as far as we can get,
so there's minimal guesswork by using the optic.
Number two, is the barrel going to flex?
We'll find out.
All right, man.
150.
Ready?
150.
Impact, dead center.
Nice.
Okay, so those were belt buckle hold,
it looks like it's dead center on the chest,
so maybe I could afford to hold it
a little bit higher than belt buckle.
Right?
Right.
Okay, so at 200, going just slightly up over
into the belly-ish area?
Yep.
Just up just a touch?
Yep.
All right, we're there at two.
Impact.
That is right edge, good elevation.
Impact.
So speed, we're clocking in at 33, 45 right there.
Wow.
So yeah.
Zipping.
33, 45, yep.
Zipping, baby.
All right, I'm at 250.
I'll just center hold it,
because it looks like it's flexing center to right.
Okay.
Dead center.
Wow, dude, stacked.
Okay, so yeah, I mean,
that's not much of a change in elevation so far.
Still maintaining the same hold at the sort of like,
right above the navel belly button area.
And again, these are C zones.
They're not full torsos.
Right, correct.
So like, on an actual torso, I would basically,
I'm just below the xiphoid process.
Right underneath the solar plex.
Yeah.
And then it's hitting right here.
Yep.
Center chest.
All right.
We're at three, my dude.
We're at three.
You're actually getting pretty close
to point of aim, point of impact here.
So I should just point of aim, point of impact at three?
I would say if, yeah, or maybe just, just below center.
Okay.
Impact.
Center chest, impact was just right of center.
Yep, nice.
Upper chest.
Yeah, so you're still getting, you're still,
your point of aim is still slightly below
the point of impact.
Okay, so let me try to just maintain that point of aim,
because we have a little bit of drop from here on going out
to see how far it drops at 350.
Okay, we're there at 350.
Okay.
Impact, right half, good elevation.
You can press left quarter target.
Okay.
Splash off the right, press left full,
press left half target.
I'd be on the left edge based on impact.
Okay.
So I feel like this one's probably a little,
I need to press it a little higher than,
just to get a little bit more plate to work on.
Got it, so you think you're gonna go toward like the neck?
Yeah, shoulder level on the left side.
Yep, all right, I'm there, 400.
Impact, left edge, good elevation.
Nice, that impact was just left of center.
All right.
Good elevation again.
Yeah, so still, I mean, I'm still targeting somewhere
on the torso and hitting the torso area though.
Okay, so we're at 450.
Okay, so why don't I maintain that
to see how far it drops on this one?
Okay, yeah, sounds good.
Okay.
Yep.
Let me know when you're ready.
Yeah, I'm there, 450.
Impact, just right of center, good elevation.
Cut it right across the center line.
Splash just low right.
That was off the left edge.
Ease it back, elevation was good on that one.
Impact.
All right, so that was.
Good elevation, left edge impact.
Okay, that was right on top of the head.
So if that's the case.
Just gonna give him a hat at five?
No, I'm actually, I'm going for one mil elevation at five.
Okay.
Which is absolutely insane.
That is pretty wild.
Because what would five normally be, about three mils?
Yeah, about three mils if I'm using a 200 or 300,
200 meter zero, it would be at three mils.
Got it.
Whereas this is like a 300, 350, zero.
Okay, so that makes more sense.
Yeah, okay.
Impact bottom right quadrant.
Impact, okay.
Nice.
Dude.
All right, this thing is a baller.
How much are you having to.
Now that's one thing I'm kind of curious.
The audience has no idea what we're talking about.
I gave Henry hand gestures about pressure on the barrel.
When you're firing a machine gun,
you have to load the bipod.
Meaning that you have to dig the bipod in
and press the machine gun forward a little bit.
What that does, it locks up the bipod
and it gives you really good stability.
Specifically on the MG3s or MG42s type of machine guns,
you really want to lock that bipod in.
Otherwise it just flops.
This also has a floppy bipod,
but I'm also shooting not eight millimeter, not 308.
I'm shooting 55 grain ball, not full auto.
So there is precedence where Steyr was turning these
into target, sorry, DMRs with the AUG H-Bar T.
What the T does, it actually relocates
the bipod to this area.
And it's like a little flip forward bipod,
but it supports it where this pistol grip is.
Now, typically with RPKs,
when you have a bipod mounted on the barrel,
typically that affects the accuracy.
However, I didn't load the bipod.
And frankly, I mean, what did you,
I didn't see much of a,
too much of a deviation with the accuracy.
The only wild shot that like didn't make sense
was the one 450 miss low.
Yeah.
Because the other shots were all like perfectly in line.
So that was the only,
and generally speaking for the audience,
when you're loading up the bipod like that
and you're putting pressure on the barrel,
we tend to see that materialize in vertical dispersion,
depending upon the different level of pressure.
So that would have been the only one where I saw
a round go like in a weird place
from a vertical perspective.
But what might be interesting is,
does the Garmin actually record the string of fire
or is it just one?
Yeah, it does.
I could actually.
We could see if it was a standard deviation problem
in post production.
Splash just low right.
We'll see if there was a velocity problem with that round
where maybe it didn't have as much powder.
So it came in low.
Okay.
Or we can check and see if it was,
maybe had something to do with loading the bipod
or pressure on the barrel.
Let me stop this session right now.
If you want to, we could,
or we could continue to see how far we can stretch it.
So the only really other target out there
that's visible right now, is it seven?
Oh, that's too bad.
It's almost like I need a long barrel precision rifle
to hit.
I have no idea if I'm gonna be able to see it.
It's in the tall grass, Henry.
And you know what they say about the tall grass?
Don't go in.
Yeah.
Don't go in.
Do you see the turkey out there on the left?
Yeah, I see.
I see the turkey.
All right.
Go ahead and give us a shot.
I'll see if I can even see the arc on this
and where it's flying.
I'm going to put it on the very base of the ring.
Say that again?
I'll put it on the base of the ring.
So I'll give it three mils.
Okay.
Sounds good.
Okay.
That came in to the right and it came in short.
I would give us another target high
and press us left another half a target.
Okay.
I'm gonna tell you right now,
this is gonna be nearly impossible for me to get you on
in the grass out there.
Okay.
But I believe that that came in on the left
and just slightly high.
So maybe split the difference on what we just did.
Give us, you know, like,
what did we say a half a target higher?
Yeah.
Give us a quarter target.
Yeah, windage looked good, but.
Yeah, dude, I can't tell.
I'm sorry.
It's just the grass is all,
it's high grass in front of it and behind it
and it's all wavy in the wind.
So I can't tell.
Okay.
So, all right, we couldn't spot it,
but why don't I put some fire down on the 500?
Okay.
Let me get a re-situated here.
All right.
I'm on at five.
Fire on ready.
Impact low right corner.
Low belly.
Impact center.
Low right.
Short.
These are in the belly.
Got to give it just a little bit more.
I mean, I heard, I heard at least that last one.
Yes, there were many tanks.
Huh?
There were many tanks.
Many tanks?
There were many tanks, yes.
Oh, cool.
There were a couple of non-tanks,
but there were many tanks.
So what I'll do next,
I'll actually load the bipod a little bit more.
This is not a great surface to load the bipod,
but still I'll do my best to load it
and I'll use a shorter mag and drop it a little lower
so I get a better center of gravity.
We'll see if we can put some suppressive fire
on the 300 yard target.
I mean.
Oh, you're going to suppress the fire.
Suppress it, yeah.
We're going to suppress it.
We're going to keep its head down.
Okay.
Yeah, nice.
The first few came in just high
and then the, you were able to get it,
get it all like very much centered up right back on.
I think too, like once I got a little bit farther behind it
and lowered it in my, in the little pocket of my shoulder,
it was able to return straight back into the,
into the target a little bit.
It's definitely different
from shooting a machine gun though.
Like when you're shooting a machine gun,
you're certainly not looking at the crosshair.
This is a really interesting, weird hybrid experience
shooting a semi-auto LMG barrel, H-bar in the front,
but still 300 meter, 300 yards.
That was fairly effective on, I would say suppressive fire.
Like I wasn't just suppressive fire.
I mean, that was effective fire on a, on a sub torso.
Yeah, so on that note,
we definitely gave you guys more than 40.
Money's worth in this video.
A little bit more shooting for your enjoyment,
but shall we take it to the debrief?
Let's do it.
We'll see you guys at the debrief.
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Welcome into the debrief.
For Henry, it's always a good day
when there's a bullpup on the range, okay?
Especially when it is
an H-bar-style barrel bullpup
that's the size, right?
The size of an M4, but ripping rounds
effectively over that of,
in terms of velocity, over that of an M16-length gun.
Absolutely wild.
What was the velocities you were clocking on these?
Like 3,400 feet per second?
Yes.
So essentially, we gamed this a little bit
with the max point-blank range.
This is a fancy talk for, like, what's your zero range
to have the least amount of variation for elevation.
I had one MOA, or one mil of holdover
for the 500-yard target
with a 300-meter zero.
Imagine that.
So essentially, what that means for people is
if you have a belt buckle hold or a belly hold,
that one hold brings you out to 500.
So walk us through that, Henry,
in case people aren't following.
So basically, you're holding low of center
at the belly button area, or in our case,
it's like the lower quadrant of the plate, right?
At the bottom edge of the plate, even.
150, 200, 250, 300, gradually coming up
to 300 being a dead-on hold,
and then going upper chest 350,
sort of neck area 400, head shot 450,
and hat at 500, right?
Is that effectively what you were doing?
Yes, if you're looking for point targets.
But if you're looking for fire support,
the big thing that you want to do
is when you're in that lizard brain mode,
you just want to find a place to put that crosshair
and squeeze the trigger.
That's it.
That's all you're trying to do
to drop rounds into that vicinity.
So by running a 300-yard zero with this type of velocity,
with only basically like a mil's worth of drop at 500,
it really isn't a hat hold then at 500, right?
Because that would be if it were a full-size torso.
Right.
For our, you know, miniaturized versions,
it might be right over his head,
but that's really still like,
just basically put the crosshair on the target.
And squeeze.
And start pressing the trigger.
Correct. Right, yes.
Because your goal right here isn't like,
oh, I just want one shot to take someone down.
No, you're trying to put,
you're trying to pin someone down with this fire.
And so you're trying to go fast
because as it's recoiling, as it's coming back,
you're trying to get back on target,
get back on target, back on target.
I mean, it works better on automatic, obviously.
Also the Austrian layout of the Sturmgewehr A1 mod,
which is the A3SFA2, the upgraded Gen 2 version
to include the Steyr cartridge deflector.
This is the original Austrian layout
with an exception of this using the older pistol grip.
The newer one has a slot of pick rail up here.
We'll talk about the utility of that in a bit.
And this is just with the front end switched out
for the H-bar.
That's really it.
If it comes to it, you can even pop up to your red dot
and roll with non-magnified red dot.
And what's really cool about this
is how easy it is to interchange the barrel
because it's not like this is an entirely different system
a la, like, I don't know, a la SAW, right?
SAW versus M4, right?
It's not like it's a totally different system.
It's literally just a barrel swap, right?
So this is a really good point for us
to jump back into the Austrian doctrine, doctrinal side.
You know, like, why, how did this come about
with Steyr making this thing
with interchangeable barrels, right?
A lot of it comes down to,
or rather non-interchangeable barrels.
So why did they come up with a barrel
with a bipod affixed to it that ran 42-round magazines?
Specifically, it's because if you're looking
at the Austrian conscript type of service,
so everyone serves, it's a neutral country,
you have to have as many people with rifles
in the same clothing item there
in case of something happening
that a neighbor tries to take over your country
and conscript your people to fight foreign wars.
What would you do, right?
How would you quickly arm those people?
You know, first of all, like Switzerland,
they run a similar doctrine
and they want to have their rifles
fully manufactured in Austria
to include the sighting solution.
And that insulates them from using any external,
external, you know,
manufacturing capacity to hinder them.
It's a maximization of logistics, right?
You can be completely self-sufficient
in the creation of your small arm.
Right. Okay.
And let's put that to a second level effect.
Now, their soldiers use a variant
of the MG3 general purpose machine gun,
which is a derivation of the MG42
that they may or may not have used in a past life.
That said, the idea of an H-bar
is then you can manufacture these barrels
and by taking just the barrel off,
you can issue just this part to your troops.
And all of a sudden,
if you have five of these to issue within a platoon,
you have five substitute automatic riflemen.
Specifically, I'm not saying machine gunner,
but automatic riflemen,
because then you hit them up also with a longer stendo mags
and you've got 42 rounds on the progressive trigger
to drop machine gun fire if you need to.
And for the cost versus,
so the cost versus what you get is phenomenal
because you're using the same platforms.
You're not switching any of these
general issue rifles out,
but you're getting more out of the rifle.
And on top of that,
if you burn a machine gun barrel because of that,
okay, get a new one.
Yeah, just throw in a new one, right?
Yeah.
Yep, but what people typically don't really look at
is they look at the H-bar AUG and they think,
oh, that's a machine gun.
That's an automatic rifleman.
What we started looking at was that's a 24 inch barrel.
How fast does that projectile go?
And this was a perfect time for us to show
that little Garmin that we got from Midway earlier.
We bought it, that is.
And see that to our shock,
this thing was turning regular 55 grain ball
into rail gun projectiles.
Is it, it's basically the equivalent of the old school
like DPMS varminter barrels, right?
Yes.
Well, I think it's better, I think,
because like-
Well, in terms of,
I'm thinking in terms of the length of the barrel,
that's the closest thing we have in the AR world.
But even those, like to your point,
I don't remember necessarily being able to clock those
at that type of velocity.
Maybe it's because we were shooting 223
out of those back in the day and not 556.
Now that's another point.
These are one nine twist,
a la every like Austrian issued thing.
So it is using the older twist.
So you are locked into using older types of ammunition.
That said, 700, we did place shots on target.
Now we didn't notice at the time
because 55 grain projectile,
even though it was going really fast,
we didn't realize that it was actually hitting
until afterwards I was doing post-production, right?
And even Steve,
when he was looking at some of the footage with me,
he didn't even notice at first.
I was pointing it out.
I was like, that target is slightly rocking
and that's a clear impact when we saw it afterwards.
So the first shot at the 700 was off.
Clearly it was off.
You were able to spot the trace
and place me onto the correct windage.
But then the second shot,
it just wasn't moving the stiff target.
That was a good adjustment call.
So imagine now, imagine, right?
Like that same platoon we were talking about.
You drop five of these barrels with five, you know,
sets of magazines that have Stendos on them
onto that platoon.
All of a sudden, each squad,
plus a squad has a plus one,
has not only automatic rifleman capability,
but potentially you could take your ball ammunition
and juice it up and shoot it at longer distances.
Yeah, it's like a combination between,
basically because we don't have
the full auto variant of this,
it wasn't a automatic rifleman for us.
It was ultimately, we were gonna see,
could we use this like it was a sort of
designated marksman role or an SPR style role?
Well, I think the answer is yes.
Very yes.
Yeah.
I would say, you know, the more we explore the show
and we see what is and isn't feasible
and how possible distances with different setups.
All too often, I see people commenting about how like,
oh, like 700 is really easy for five, five, six.
With 77 grains.
Right, that may be true
when you're looking at maximizing the capabilities.
Like you're shooting 77s,
you don't have a high wind today
or the wind is very consistent.
And yeah, in certain instances like that,
yeah, you can definitely get repeatable hits.
But what we know is that under a variety of conditions,
when we try to do that with 55 ball,
like just the loose pack ball ammunition,
I would not say that it's easily repeatable stuff in wind.
But when you start looking at this configuration,
where again, you're shooting a 24 inch barrel,
it does not feel like a 24 inch barrel.
Like this feels like, again,
more of an SPR style configuration
than it does like the old barman style configuration, right?
It still feels wieldable.
It still feels like something you could move
and operate with in terms of like in confined spaces
and whatnot, not optimally,
but it still feels like you could do it.
I mean, better than an SPR, I would say.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like if we're saying we could do it with a precision,
sort of like precision gasser 556 gun
with like a 14 and a half inch barrel with a suppressor
or with like a 16 or an 18 inch barrel,
especially with a can like,
yeah, this is definitely still doable.
Like easily still doable in that role
where I don't think you could say the same thing
with a 24 inch barometer set up on an AR.
Like it just, it's not the same.
And we're able to utilize the velocity
that this barrel is pushing to basically overcome
some of the issues with the standard M193 round,
which is that it just loses its butt
as it goes out there pretty rapidly.
So let's talk about like this,
this how this kind of ties into
our current deployment kit concept
of packing two uppers, right?
I typically have this in two barrels.
One is the 14.5 perm muzzle device barrel,
which puts it this long,
which is like an MP5 length
when you're running around with it.
I took the light off of the side rail.
This is an aftermarket rail from Silver Shooting Sports.
But typically, you know,
I would then have the, like a light on the side.
And then if I wanted to,
I just clipped this barrel on
if I wanted a little bit more juice to punch out.
Now, the downside, unlike the AR-15s,
like you could slave your optic to the barrel swap
where you can't do with this.
That being said,
if you want to melt body armor with ball ammunition,
this bad boy is your baby.
Yeah.
So that's an interesting point, Henry.
I know one of the things that maybe not everybody knows
what the deployment kit sort of strategy is.
So let's just go into it for two seconds.
I think it makes sense to cover it.
Basically what Henry and I have sort of settled on
as an optimum configuration,
because obviously we're doing the nine hole show.
We have tons of different firearms for use on the show,
for collectability reasons, all the rest.
But if we really had to boil down our setups
or our configurations for real use,
what would make most sense?
And we've had this debate amongst ourselves
and it really comes down to one in AR
with a shorter upper and a longer upper.
And that shorter upper could be an 11 1⁄2,
it could be a 12 1⁄2, it could be a 14 1⁄2.
But then my longer upper would grow accordingly.
So if I'm on a 10 1⁄2 inch shorty,
I might be on a 14 1⁄2 inch like longer upper
and that might stagger out
to say an 18 inch SPR style configuration.
The idea being you can swap out the uppers,
that's gonna change out your enablers
and your front end configurations
to be optimized for whatever role you ultimately need.
And between those two different uppers,
you're probably gonna be able to cover 99%
of what you could ever need to be doing with them.
And that's sort of the idea that we've approached.
You know, off of a single lower,
you can kind of, as a consumer,
you can not spend insane amounts of money
on a bunch of different guns
and you can sort of have a total capability
in one package that fits in one case
that can rock and roll with you.
I mean, did I leave anything out there?
Yeah, except you tied it saying it must be an AR-15.
Whereas, Joshua, excuse me.
Look, I said our ideal.
Okay, fine.
My ideal.
All right.
But the idea here would be same same
with a couple different, with a couple adjustments.
It being predominantly the main thing
you'd be swapping is the barrel.
You already referenced that you're not necessarily
changing out your enablers or your optic.
So you have to make some adjustments
maybe on the fly with those devices.
But it's a similar concept
and it's scalable to an entire population.
In fact, even if you wanna pull it back
into the idea of a purely US CONUS
sort of like civilian perspective,
if you're working with a group of people
and you want varied capability,
like these are some of the things
that allow you to achieve that type of varied capability
even within a small group of individuals
where you can easily flex into one role or another.
Right, and that's essentially what I'm talking about.
Like back in the 70s and the 80s,
the Austrian already came out with their solution
to substitute fire support as they needed
at a very economical scale.
I mean, these barrels are not cheap
compared to AR-15 barrels,
but for what you get, the QD,
the quick employment of it
and the performance that you get,
this run shocked me.
Like I thought it was gonna do fine,
but especially when we started pressing
on like multiple hits on targets,
you know, like after we clear the course
and we're just jamming rounds down range,
man, that is scary watching the three and the five
just essentially, yeah.
So what's interesting,
and I wanna bring this up before we go into that
because I think that will have some implications
to talk about how the barrel is set up with a bipod.
One of the pieces that was interesting
is when we were shooting,
you had that miss at 450 that was kind of like,
cause you had a hit and then you had a miss
that was like, wow, that was not a great shot.
But we went back with the chronograph,
with that Garmin and you were able to identify
that you actually lost like, what was it?
Like almost 50 feet per second on that round.
Yeah, it was really weird.
Like we've never had this capability
to where like real time we're able to see and analyze,
you know, what was the feet per second
for that particular shot.
And again, this is ball bulk packaged ammunition.
This is not match grade ammunition.
And we saw that that particular round
was around 46, 47 feet per second slower
than the mean of other cartridges.
And the previous round right before that
was actually a higher velocity than the mean.
So you're talking about the Delta between the two
was more than 50 feet per second.
And so-
That's why the standard deviation,
and when you start looking at that,
it's such an important factor to consider
when you're looking at your ammo,
especially if you're looking at it
from a precision perspective, right?
Yep.
But if we're looking, I mean,
one thing we did on a disservice on this is
we haven't talked about sort of the historical employment
of this in militaries,
because this is not a common look when you look for AUGs.
And in fact, these LMG barrels used to be
upwards in the 3000 range on the street market price.
Whoa.
Yeah, yeah.
This is a recent recreation that Steyr USA made
that's at the 900-ish, I believe, mark.
Still not cheap,
but remember this whole thing is a Steyr blank
that they used to make this.
And it has a gas tube and bipod included.
So it's more than just a barrel.
The interesting thing is in the past,
obviously the initial primary employment of this
was to substitute the automatic rifleman role.
We've seen that in photos,
you know, even Austrians evaluating it.
Ultimately it was not commonly used
in the Austrian military,
but it still existed in the Steyr catalog.
And the interesting thing about this is they started,
especially with the A2s,
they had flat tops that had a slightly raised rail section.
They started using telescopic optics on them.
And so they started developing what became the HBAR-T.
So the heavy barrel hyphen T as in telescope.
And that was a lot of,
only Steyr nerds probably know this,
but that was a very, you know,
that was shown actually on one of the 1980s catalogs,
I believe,
but nobody really gave that a lot of thought
because your bipods mounted on the barrel,
like everybody is just looks at that and is ridiculous.
The Peruvians are some of the only people I know of
who actually took that concept seriously.
And you'll see that they have an HBAR-T that's different
where their bipod is actually mounted
right here near the gas block.
Now, this as close to the A3SF Gen 2 as it is,
it's lacking one component that I don't have.
There's a pick rail section that goes right here
that extends a little bit.
And then their vert grip is a vert grip
that attaches to the pick rail.
And so this accessory rail allows them to use
really more so lights and stuff, not bipods.
But that opens the conversation
on us using a traditional HBAR barrel.
And what if we had one without the bipod attached
and then substituted the bipod with a true SF Gen 2
and had that pick rail section right up here
and use the bipod down there instead.
You lose all the interference on the barrel,
which I had to be cognizant about when we were shooting it.
And especially when I think this was your theory
that when I was firing at the close succession stuff,
at the 500, a lot of them,
you said they were hitting high and then low
and high and low, right?
The 300, when you were really like,
I think, again, our brains,
you go lizard brain on it, right?
And it's like, I need to go fast here.
So I'm gonna control the recoil.
Whereas on the slow fire, you were more relaxed
and you were cognitively remembering
not to load into the bipod.
And so you were just sort of resting on it
for most of the shooting.
But on the rapid fire up close,
you're like, I'm gonna rip on this.
And so you implicitly,
you're like digging into the gun
and pressing and loading into the bipod.
And all your rounds were up at the head level.
Yeah, all of them were.
Even the misses were right over the head
or right around the head.
And then your impacts were like in the face
or in the neck area.
Or again, these are C zone.
So they're smaller than an actual torso,
but it's like, that's where they were landing on the plate.
Yeah, it goes back to what I was trained on
with belt feds, you know, and loading bipods.
You dig it and you jam it.
I was trying not to do that,
but still I think there was a little bit.
That said, let's reference this back
to what I was saying, a belly hold
for this particular rifle though.
Like I think when you're running this type of thing
with a barrel mounted bipod,
specifically for something like this,
if you're really trying to run support fire,
I would just do belly hold and just dress off of that,
which is, we saw success towards the end
whenever we were running that.
And then it's also important to reference, Henry,
like we really haven't done any like AR style,
like automatic rifle style configurations on this course
with the exception of like one or two.
And they did not go well.
Yeah.
The biggest one I can think of was what, it was the RPK.
We didn't even publish that one.
Right, it's never come to light
because we needed to like probably do more work on it
because what we've noticed
is that there was such massive deflection
when running it with the bipod deployed,
putting pressure on the barrel,
that the rounds weren't even, like on that one,
we couldn't even hit stuff up close with it.
There was so much deflection going on,
which this did not have that.
It had what appeared to be a more predictable,
like, yeah, well the rounds are gonna come in a bit higher
because you're pressing down
and the barrel would be getting the nose raised.
It makes sense.
That's the biggest thing to it.
You know, this one's predictable.
Like, yes, during the actual step out,
I think some of them was me actually
putting a little bit of pressure on it.
So you see a little bit of left and right.
I was conscious about the up and down,
but I think you still see a little bit of left and right.
And that may be me like pressing up on it a little bit.
Unlike belt feds that I've run in the past,
it's just a different way of shooting it.
You're addressing off of bursts.
You're addressing off of group size,
like, you know, an area target.
Area fire, right, yeah.
And then you're just working off of that with belt feds.
Whereas this, you're using something
that in your mind tells you is a belt fed,
but you're shooting it as a semi-auto DMR.
And strangely enough, it freaking works.
Yeah.
Well, dude, I mean, the fact that we were able
to get you on at 700 within two shots,
granted, God, that stunk
because I wish I could have called them better,
but with the Mirage, with the wavy grass,
with 55 grains, with the target basically having no report,
it's just so hard to call those out
at that distance on certain days.
But we were able to get rounds on target at 700
within one correction.
Like, that's pretty sick
because this is also not like a precision optic either.
Right, like that's what people have to remember.
This is not a precision optic.
It's bomb proof, but it's not precision.
Right, right.
You don't have the magnification.
You don't have the holdover at the same level
or degree that you have on precision scopes.
And so when we look at all of this combined,
it's like, this is a really impressive bit of kit.
And in my mind, I'm like, I want to see this configuration
with that bipod off the barrel
and on a rail system beneath it.
Because I think that that one adjustment
would be a major adjustment in the positive direction.
And now as far as you've shared, as I understand it,
that's what's being done going forward.
You notice there's been some improvements
on the next generation.
Now this is the sacrilege of NATO mags.
Yes, that's true.
But we're looking at the next generation.
Now this is a 20 inch barrel on this particular,
let's see, A3M2.
This is the M2.
So this is the next generation past that.
But Steyr did something really interesting.
By removing this little portion,
you have full access to the barrel.
So you could still switch the barrel real quick.
And again, for those who don't know,
this is actually the next generation
for the Steyr AUG A3 model.
For it to progress.
And so it's really interesting.
Initially, I was looking at,
what if we had the actual SF model A2 under rail?
But now for us to test stuff like that,
we could just drop it onto the M2 and test it.
Very cool.
And we'll find out for you guys.
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