38 Video Views·Aug 17, 2024 #nscale #ModelRailroad #diorama *The Unexpected Disaster That Led to a Complete Rebuild*
*Here’s what I’m going to cover in this video:*
- Issues that are forcing me to tear down and start over.
- Lessons Learned from this experience
- Early stages of planning smarter, more reliable model railroad.
*Longer Description:*
In this video, I share the unexpected challenges that have led me to make the difficult decision to completely tear down and rebuild my model railroad layout. Despite months of hard work and dedication, unreliable trackwork, faulty wiring, and compromised materials have made the layout unsustainable. Join me as I walk through the problems I've encountered, the lessons I've learned, and my plans for the new and improved layout.
Whether you're a seasoned model railroader or just curious about the process, there's much to take away from this experience. I invite you to follow along as I begin the journey of starting from scratch, focusing on smarter design, more reliable construction methods, and plenty of exciting new features.
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so there is a very strong chance that I
will be tearing out this entire layout
and starting again and the principal
reason for that is this right here let's
get started
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so what's going on and why such a
drastic change I haven't been running
this layout an awful lot in the past few
months um I've been picking away at some
projects I've been making some updates
and doing a bit of research but I
haven't actually been running a lot of
trains so when I was making this past
July update video I had my new um CP
consist that I wanted to present and so
I lashed up all of the cars and tried to
run the engine around the track so first
the train wouldn't even run there was no
power to the tracks I hadn't been under
the layout messing with the wiring in
fact I hadn't even touched it and
suddenly the layout didn't work and at
the main power distribution block I
discovered that the wires were detached
not that they had come out of the power
block it was that their ends were
missing and this was true for all of the
wires going into that power block so I
had to take out all of the wires I had
to trim the ends I had to restrip them
and I reined them for those maybe not
aware tinning is the process of taking
stranded or braided wire and soldering
them so that they become solid it's the
process of charging up any surface with
solder so that it's easier to solder
down the road so now I just simply want
to do a few Loops of the train around
the track and I'm having lots of
problems because it continues to derail
at the turnouts two turnouts in
particular so I inspect the turnout and
the point rails have detached from the
throw bar so if I think back over the
last four or five months I have made the
same repair to at least eight or 10
turnouts where the points have released
from the throw bar and they are sprung
so as I consider the topic more and more
I suddenly realize it likely has
everything to do with this this is acid
based flux and flux is something you put
on surfaces that you're going to solder
helps clean them help prepare them when
you apply heat in the solder the solder
Wicks beautifully into the connecting
surfaces or the joint no nobody
recommends that you ever use acidbase
flux for this sort of work because it
deteriorates uh the solder joints over
time and can damage electronics so now
it suddenly makes a lot of sense why I'm
having all of this failed track work and
electronics and when I take a better
look there is a hidden staging area in
front of me that area does have access
hatches with panels that I can remove
from the surface and when I take a look
down there the turnouts half of them
have failed the the access was designed
to be able to access the cars in case
they derail or there's a coupling
problem but the access hatch was not
designed for me to get in there and
repair a hand laid turnout so now what I
have is a layout that is no longer
reliable and I can't repair it so I
don't think that I have any other choice
than to start again now I want to be
clear I'm not happy about this this is
very frustrating but at the same time it
is really good opportunity for me to
address a number of issues that I've had
with this Railroad and a lot of the
challenges on this layout are
correctable so I want to be clear that I
am very frustrated with this but at the
same time I'm a little bit relieved
because it gives me an opportunity to
make changes to a series of problems
that I've had on this layout and in
truth haven't really talked about so I
am going to go over a list of all of the
challenges that this layout has
presented how they have taken some of
the enjoyment out of this layout and how
I want to correct them in the future so
with regards to track and turnout there
are a number of things that I want to
change and or upgrade if I rebuild this
layout so number One never again will I
use acid flux using a fast tracks jig I
created over 38 turnouts for this entire
layout I enjoyed the process it was
incredibly satisfying and handling
turnouts was something on my bucket list
that I've now completed and I will never
do it again no matter how precise I
wasn't creating those turnouts they just
haven't been reliable as other types of
turnouts in addition to this when I was
designing this layout I tried to put too
much track in too small a space so I
opted to use number five turno I know
that there are people in the comments
that'll immediately say oh my goodness
number five turnouts with passenger
equipment what were you thinking and I
feel the same way what was I thinking
and the truth is I was just too obsessed
with trying to fit as much layout as I
could into the space and number five was
a compromise that I made moving forward
I will be doing something with a much
larger radius probably a number eight
turnout minimum I also chose to use code
55 track on the layout it's very
prototypical I think it looks beautiful
it's really nice to work with and it is
far less reliable than a greater gauge
when I took my same trains to my friend
Darren's layout and we spent a couple
hours doing some operations with my
equipment on his layout he had a layout
built using Pico turnouts and code 80
rail those trains never derailed on my
layout I always experienced little
problems specifically things like the
diamond crossovers they are code 55
they're made by Atlas and they're
terrible so if my train manages to make
it through the points and they haven't
released themselves as soon as it hits
the diamond Crossing it shakes the
trains and the wheels come up bottom
line is they're not reliable the track
isn't reliable and code 55 is just
simply too fine scale for me and it
compromises operation for realism so the
reason for choosing handl turnouts was
that I started building this layout in
the heart of the pandemic and there was
a track shortage and certainly a turnout
shortage so I decided that for a very
small investment I could build all the
turnouts I wanted using a fastracks jig
and it was true I was able to get the
jig in two business days and I made 38
turnouts for a fraction of the cost of
store-bought turn Nots and in the spirit
of trying to manage costs I also decided
that I wanted to use Arduino serval
controlled turn Nots I enjoyed the
process of creating a mounting brackets
and using piano wire to control the turn
notes and I really enjoyed programming
each the controller boards the way that
I've got it set up is pretty slick I
just need to plug my laptop into any one
of the Arduino controllers and I can
fine-tune the turnout that said the
servos have certainly not lived up to
their expectations for some reason of
every 10 servos that I buy one or two of
them simply don't work the servos also
don't have a really high track record
for reliability I have a series of
servos on this layout that continually
hum despite the fact that they've got a
dedicated power source and secondly some
of them just quit working you almost
need to loosen they up before they'll
start to work again I've lubricated them
I've tried replacing them and really
they just aren't as reliable when I was
building the layout it was important for
me to use electronic control turnouts I
thought that that was slick and I like
the idea about moving across um a false
CC panel and being able to hit buttons
and watch the turnouts change
particularly that I had wired multiple
turnouts to work with one another that's
turned out to be a bit of a headache and
when I added the Via maintenance yard I
decided to go all manual controls and I
much prefer it so if I'm going to redo
this layout I will use manual turnout
controls wherever it makes sense and
Reserve electronic turnout control for
those areas where turnouts have to
either move sequentially or there's a
challenge reaching them so moving away
from having an abundance of electronic
control turnouts also corrects another
issue which I have which is over
complicated wiring I had very Grand
ideas about illuminated LED control
panels along the front of the layout
maybe even like a signaling system along
the rails at some point and Arduino
would be the Hub of all of that logic
the wiring has now become overwhelming I
spend more time figuring out what I did
under the layout than being able to
enjoy the trains on the top of the
layout it is taking away from part of
the hobby that I want to be enjoying
which is modeling and running some
trains and speaking of running trains
you've probably noticed this year that I
have had some challenges with my bench
workk I've had a series of states where
the track is buckled and warped as the
benchwork seems to settle in now this
basement room is climate controlled
there are four stair vents in here a
dehumidifier in the Next Room and a
humidifier if needed and despite all of
those things the bench work has been
unrelenting with the way that it's
warped the hidden staging tracks zigzag
all over the place tracks on the visible
parts of the layout have popped up
you've seen me Gap them and repair them
and glue them back down the point is is
that this entire layout continues to
shift and now that causes unreliability
now in combination with this I may also
have exasperated the problem because I
soldered every single joint on every
single rail so there is no give so as
the bench workor shifts over time
expands and contracts it warps the track
and because the track has no give it
pops so early this year I installed my
Masonite backdrop around the two sides
of the train room I used Masonite
because it's inexpensive and I didn't
want to paint directly on the walls
backdrop was secured against the wall
every second studed and secured using
drywall screws since being installed the
backdrop in some places Has Come away
from the wall at least 2 in so either
the Masonite has expanded or the wall is
shrinking either way the backdrop now
waves across the perimeter of the room
and now pushes against the buildings and
the retaining walls so keeping in mind
all the things that I've just mentioned
you can see that there's a problem with
the materials and the construction
methods that I've used and it's just
wrecking havoc on the layout and that's
the principal reasons I feel like I need
to start again and correct all those
problems and as I said that is
frustrating however I made a series of
design choices with this layout that I'm
unhappy with and so now this gives me an
opportunity to correct them and here's
five major things I'm excited to change
number one I would reconsider hidden
staging when I designed the layout it
was really attractive that I could stage
four or five full length trains
underneath the city and I could have
them emerge and disappear as I wanted to
it made a lot of sense because I had
Union state station over here I could
have trains arrive and depart and they
could wind up in the staging yard and
disappear until the next visit so not
being able to see the trains and hearing
the occasional and now very frequent
derailment removes all of the joy of the
Hidden staging I want to be able to see
the trains I want to see them run and I
want to see them parked if I don't want
to run them on the layout I will take
them off the layout and put them on a
display shelf hidden staging is great
for operations it's great for storage
but when that hidden staging doesn't
work it becomes a massive headache and I
don't want that number two when I
designed this layout I over complicated
it I think that everybody is guilty of
that and I'll the first to admit that I
did it as well I spent a lot of hours
trying to fit in a lot of different
locations a lot of different track
configurations and try to make
everything work and truthfully I'm very
happy and almost proud of the design I
have but as I said I used number five
turnouts to make that happen the track
became unreliable and really now what I
have is a collection of too many things
in too small a space number three and
it's an extension of of the Hidden
staging I want to reduce the amount of
hidden track not just hidden staging
Hidden Track the layout as it stands
today has a double track Main Line the
consist can double back on itself and go
through both main lines as a continuous
run this means that the train can have a
long run time and it moves back and
forth twice between the East and West
ends of the layout but as I have a
hidden staging yard and hidden return
Loops the train is spending 40% of its
time out of view and I don't like that I
want to be able to see the train run
this is probably the reason I will never
add a helix as a helix likely has five
times six times 10 times the trackage
that the actual visible layout has I
certainly don't mind if a train Works
its way through a small tunnel or goes
through an underpass but the idea that
30 or 40% of the mainline is hidden from
view is not attractive to me number four
grades designing the lout I was well
aware that the ideal grade height is
around 2% and so when I began assembling
the L my calculations estimated that my
grade should be around 2 and a half%
maybe a little bit more than that that
said I miscalculated the grades because
I forgot that there was roaded height
and track height and that changes the
spacing between the upper and lower deck
enough that it changed the grade you
might recall that I had to use a router
to make the upper deck paper thin where
it crossed over the lower deck track and
if I really want to be honest and go
back and measure again my grades are
probably closer to 3 and 1/2% the fact
that I want to be able to run long
consists of Passenger cars on four axle
diesels means that I either have to
double head every thing or I simply
can't run them grades are currently too
steep to enjoy the trains I want to run
so on the next version of this layout 2%
is the maximum grade no questions asked
and the fifth and final takeaway from
this layout is that I need it to be more
modular now I don't mean modular in
terms of being able to pick the entire
layout and move it what I mean is that
each of the scenes that are on the
layout need to be able to be done at the
workbench I really enjoy building
structures and this is an urban layout
and I want to have a lot of buildings
I've collected a lot of inexpensive kits
and really one of my big joys is being
able to sit at my workbench and create
sort of a distopic structure and then
install it on the layout in order to add
some visual interest to this layout I
have a curved City area here along the
backdrop with roads that sort of arch
their way along and the city bases are
made with Plywood And they're screw
nailed onto the baseboard this means
that when I want to change a city or
model it I have to get on a stool and
reach across and install it in the next
iteration of this layout I want to be
able to have all of those retaining
walls and all those areas as 18in or 2T
modules then I can lift up from the
layout and go to my workbench and super
detail and when I'm done I can return
them to the layout that way I'm not
leaning over the layout to work on it so
what's next well unfortunately I'm not
going to be able to save any of this
track no matter what I do I can't remove
it without damaging it and I have no use
for any of these number five turnup I
will save every detail from the layout
all of the bridges the retaining walls
the backdrop structures all of it's
going to be saved certainly there is a
cost associated with starting over and I
have made the decision that I will be
selling some of my Rolling Stock to help
Finance the new layout I am very
fortunate and I have collected a lot of
desirable equipment over the past couple
of years and the truth is I simply don't
run some of it and so I will happily
trade that equipment for building
materials to start over again I have
already started the process of planning
a new layout this layout will once again
focus on Toronto's Union Station
although I am considering changing it
from a through station to a stubend
station station in an attempt to save
space the main topographical feature I
want to maintain is the Bath's fly under
but now I assume that fly under will
actually span the entire length of the
layout I will still have two principal
staging yards one will probably
represent Union Station and the second
yard will probably represent a
maintenance facility and finally I think
I want to add a little bit more natural
topography this entire layout was built
to be Urban and I think I want to
integrate just a small green space so
there you have it a huge learning
experience for me I think it's safe to
say that every decision I made with this
layout was done with the best intentions
I have no problem admitting that I made
some mistakes in terms of the design as
well as some mistakes in terms of the
construction and the combination of all
of those mistakes has a greater weight
to it than the effort it would take to
repair them so it would seem that in the
coming months I will likely be
restarting this layout over again and so
you can join me on the journey again to
rebuild this layout now while I'm
working on the layout I do want to
introduce a bit more balance so that
while I'm in ining bench work and track
I might at the same time be working on
buildings and other structures so that
when the layout is installed I can hit
the ground running and get a lot of
Scenic details put back up so never a
dull moment in closing yeah I'm
frustrated that I made a series of
mistakes but I'm not unhappy with the
opportunity to fix them I think no
matter what I do in terms of design and
execution the next version of this
layout I will enjoy a lot more than the
one I currently have and I think it will
go quite quickly by no means is the
dystopia gone it will be resurrected as
quickly as possible and I am very
confident that a lot of you will had
something you want to add to the
discussion and I invite you to do so as
always I appreciate the support thank
you for stopping by and I'll see you
next time
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