Hank Green from SciShow @SciShow shows new evidence that the famous study that said 8% of people living in the boundaries of the former Mongol Empire are direct descendants of Genghis Khan, is WRONG. Really? Mr. Terry is an avid Mongol history enjoyer, and is known as the "Mongol Guy" in the history department at his school. What does he think about this earthshattering news?
hey there I'm Mr Terry I'm a high school
history teacher welcome back to another
history teacher reacts video all right
this video has been blowing up and it
crushed me so this is by a channel I
have not seen before called sa show and
the video is titled everyone was wrong
about gangas KH now the school that I
teach at in the history Department I'm
known as the Mongol teacher cuz I'm
interested in them way more than the
other teachers and I argue their
importance to them all the time now
selfishly I'm a little bit upset at
potentially at this video because I
don't want something that I have been
preaching about jenas Khan to be false
so I'm going to go hardcore copium mode
here as we check this out wait this is
Hank Green okay if he's going to be
dogging on Jenis Khan he's got to have
beef with Jon Jon and crash course world
history big influence on me as a teacher
obviously gets me and the students going
because of the whole running meme you
know what I'm talking about with them
being the exception in fact I would be
wearing my were the exception uh crash
course shirt but I lost at my last move
so I want to know if they have beef but
all right time to turn on the copium I'm
going to be huffing it here what have
they been lying about my boy Jenis by
all accounts genas Khan got around not
just around Eurasia which he conquered
and ruled for decades he got around come
on come on like around we don't know for
sure how many children he had but
historians suggest it was a lot so many
in fact that some studies and pretty
much all of the internet have claimed
that a huge number of in Central and
East Asia today are his direct
descendants 1 in 200 in the world one
and eight within the former Mongol
Empire yeah that's insane is he going to
crash that bubble I'm a little bit okay
copium mode I got to turn it
up but before you go around telling
everybody you know who your great great
great great add like 25 more great great
grandfather let's do a deeper dive into
how this idea came about and How likely
it really
is see the nerd science nerds are ruin
in a gentic change within a population
typically happens a few ways natural
selection and random change
both juggle the frequency of Gene
variance and How likely they are to show
up in a given individual certain genes
could also turn up more frequently
thanks to a prolific breeder passing on
their DNA at a high rate much like
genghiskhan was suspected to be doing so
if we want to know how many of his
descendants are running around today we
have to trace the source of genetic
changes the Y chromosome would be a
great place to start with this because
it's passed on by a single parent and
does not swap its DNA with its paired X
chromosome that makes it an exception
compared to autosomes or he said the
word exception Q
it nonsex chromosomes which like to
trade bits of genetic material with
their matching counterparts just to keep
when those genes are passed on to
offspring so unlike others the Y
chromosome stays intact over many
generations making it relatively easy to
use to trace its ancestral origin a 2003
paper looked at the DNA variation chos
of thousands of individuals from Central
Asia to the Pacific and their results
show that about 8% of their participants
have the same Y chromosome hype this
means they belong to the same broad
group their Y chromosomes might not be
totally identical but they all come from
the same ancestor okay is this where
he's going to say that that common
ancestor was not the mongal largest
contiguous Empire in history you better
have something to back this up here 8%
is a lot especially across such a large
area it's something the researchers
would be more likely to see if they were
working with a small isolated population
but instead it was like most of Asia and
their findings suggested a single
lineage was responsible for those 8% of
people from there the team used models
to consider population Dynamics and
genetic mutation and long story short
they traced this hype to a probable
common ancestor about a thousand years
ago likely in Mongolia case closed we
did it Spirit of changus is in us well
8% of us well that are from there and
then they ask themselves who's a person
who lived around then who was incredibly
reproductively successful and they came
up with genghiskhan after all reigning
from Eastern Europe to the Sea of Japan
is bound to have some lasting influence
on civilization not just culturally but
also genetically he is known to have had
many wives and many many concubines over
the years which some Scholars say may
have numbered in the hundreds that said
we don't know how many children he
actually had as only four of his sons
with his first wife the the European
style of the writings or the the
drawings of Asians always makes them
look like Europeans like look at that
look at that thing that doesn't look
anything like the Mongols if you
actually look at them I mean okay this
is also pre uh you could tell this pre-
Renaissance as well because there is
very very little in terms of perspective
look up big the bed is compared to the
tent yeah they did have Yurts and moved
around like that but come on also what
they're just holding the arrow do they
know anything about Mongol culture as
his heirs and the thing is we don't have
any way of knowing if this Y chromosome
haa group is actually connected to
genghiskhan because we don't have access
to his DNA since his remains were buried
in secret and have never been found yeah
the story is they did it was one of
those things you probably heard this a
few rulers have done this in history
like the uh founder of China Shong
Shamong D had the had his uh he was
buried okay somewhere and then there's a
couple rumors there's a couple rumors
that have come out of this one is that
they ordered that everyone that was
there that was part of like and would
have known where he was buried so like
Engineers whatever people that worked
there had them killed so they couldn't
tell where it was and then also like had
those people have them killed to get it
like two tiers away from the original
part of it and then also there's a rumor
that they may have like diverted a river
to cover over it so they uh messed with
the geography to hide it even further
but yeah we don't know where he is
basically the researchers were guessing
it was a decent guess and credit where
it's due it got their work plenty of
attention but still a guess still their
resarch been continually referenced over
the years as proof of the great K's
genetic Legacy and the likelihood that
you may be related to there's not much
in the way of engineering left from the
Mongols cuz they are no mtic but the
stuff that people have made is just
awesome look at that that's so cool but
a study challenged this link to genas
Khan they set out to take a closer look
at the Y chromosome group described in
the earlier study and compare it to
closely related y group lineages they
also ramped up the sample size to over
18,000 from 292 populations collecting
new samples from thousands of
individuals on top of using previously
published Y chromosome sequences their
results told a different story they
determined this hype was older than
previously thought originating nearly
2600 years ago long before genghiskhan
was around they also showed that people
most likely to be the true descendants
of genas Khan belong to a different
haplotype they did this not just using
DNA evidence but historical records that
describe where genghiskhan sent his
troops including his kids but also
people he was not related to and the 8%
Hao group corresponded with the not
related folks They concluded that the
Big Y Hao group instead represents the
ancestral expansion of the mongolic
speaking peoples so just ancestors of
the Mongols so they're like cousins of
him rather than in relation to him I
mean that's basically how genetics work
but it all came through that same tree
now those people there there's a huge
family tree that goes before uh genas
Khan the whole like turkic in a way
family family tree is massive it goes
all the way across EUR Asia um it's huge
and basically all those nomadic peoples
that have lived for thousands of years
All In Central Northern Asia um and then
expand out and then they create their
own Empires I mean that's like how
history has been if you anything about
your Asian history so okay so he himself
would have also been a part of that line
I mean it's true it's not like he would
have created that that chromosone right
so as one of the founder ofes in Mongol
peoples its success is do more to
overall expansion of Mongol populations
than one guy having a lot of kids but
also while the Y chromosome can help us
determine direct lineage it does have
its drawbacks why chromosome studies
only Trace ancestry via a single parent
lineage leaving out the other genetic
half completely so it can paint an
incomplete picture of relatedness that
said when we're not focused solely on
sex chromosomes our genetic material can
be harder to track because chromosomes
recombine all over the place but there
is a workaround we can also Trace
ancestry by looking at identical by
descent or IBD regions IBD regions are
any single piece of DNA that is passed
down from a common ancestor without
being fully genetically reshuffled these
IBD fragments get smaller and more mixed
up over Generations as they get split up
and combined back together in Offspring
in the end we are all made up of a
patchwork of ibds and they can tell a
tale of common distant ancestors as we
look for shared patterns at 20 seems
like it's still it's going to come down
to this idea that it's more complex than
we thought and it's always easy to say
that 20 study rather ambitiously
attempted to trace the interrelatedness
of all humankind using this technique
good on you take on the big tasks they
compared about is this similar by the
way to the Human Genome Project that was
also around that same time was this was
the the findings that they found around
jingus Khan um part of that I'm trying
to remember that original group because
it was around that turn of the
Millennium right 15 million IBD
fragments tracing common ancestors
across 200,000 years and with a found
were nine distinct human genetics
regions East and West Africa northern
Europe the Arctic East Asia Oceania
South Asia the Middle East and South
America and these populations shared way
more IBD bits with each other than with
neighbors from other regions they also
found that the center of Eurasia is the
most genetically mixed geographic region
in the world and this makes a it's
because it's nomatic it's nomatic people
didn't the the geography there is not
really well suitable for a lot of uh
persistent Agriculture and and and
building like in Mongol in Mongolia the
vegetation is great for there's not the
Great Rivers climate wise not great
that's why historically those groups
that do survive there often and usually
eventually migrate south into the gray
river valleys that are around EUR Asia
so it makes sense there because they're
they're they're always nomadic sense for
thousands of years this central region
was a hot spot for extensive trading and
migration as well as Conquest between
otherwise regions so even thoughe flow
is relatively limited by geography we
still interbreed wherever we cross paths
and our genes move around okay back to
genghiskhan these researchers did
specifically look for genetic evidence
of the Mongol Empire through this middle
Eurasia region as well as other areas
they occupied at length they compared
the DNA of tatars who they describe as
the likely descendants of Mongols to
people living in the Middle East Russia
and Europe and despite these regions
having been bordered in fact they they
you'll when you read Marco Polo's book
he refers to them as the tatars and that
that region kind of like Western Asia
tatars directly occupied by the Mongols
at some point or another modern tatars
were more closely related to European
populations than those in East Asia Now
using modern tatars as their Mongol DNA
s there was imperialism also especially
that came from Russia down into those
regions like uh in like Crimea for
example which has the indigenous peoples
of that are like tatars and so yeah
there was a lot of imperialism from
Eastern Europe coming that way gets
complicated because even though the term
Tatar has historically been linked
directly with the Mongol Empire this may
not be an accurate account of complex
history and ancest but what the study
did find present day Central Asia was
comparatively very tightly related to
East Asian populations given the trading
along the silk route had connected
Eastern Asia with the West since the
second century it makes sense that g
well okay so look so I was telling you
about Tatar populations if you see I
don't if you can see my cursor very well
but if you know where Crimea is you can
see that there's these trade routes
these Caravan routes that that mix there
across the Black Sea the land routes and
then the one coming from the
Mediterranean into the Black Sea you see
there's like a city there it says pacum
anyway so you can see all of the um the
mixture there of peoples in fact
Southern Crimea again you're talking
about tatars later too was a also a
Colony so multiple groups have come and
gone there for those trade purposes so
it makes sense that an area like that
would have a lot of genetic diversity
Angus Khan's Empire wasn't Lally I mean
it's literally where Europe and Asia me
main genetic influence between these
regions they were pretty connected
already that said for a Time the Mongol
Empire controlled 16% of the total land
mass of Earth so their expansion did
play a major role in Expediting trade
exchanges between these regions so they
certainly still get credit where credit
is is due what the study was able to
show is that many groups of humans share
IBD regions with many other groups of
humans no matter where they're from that
means even if your ancestors have
largely stayed put generation after
generation there's still a great chance
that you share at least some IBD
fragments with folks from distant
corners of the globe of course I mean we
didn't Sprout out of the ground
dispersed across the planet right we
have common Origins I think everyone
understands that right dude look at
thisy guys drip this see this is how you
do nomadic lifestyle we're a sick purple
uh jacket here you got varied functional
boots a sweet like yellow belt and then
that like almost Fedora kind of hat dude
that's the life it is especially likely
that you share DNA with someone living
in Central Asia since they're the most
likely to be carrying jeans from you
know basically everywhere whether that's
South America or the Arctic Circle we
are all related and we are all
especially related to Central Asia in
the end none of these techniques can
tell you if you are directly descended
from genghiskhan given that we don't
even have his DNA but they can so okay
tell you a lot about the wide range of
populations you share ancestry with no
matter where in the world you are from
and at the end of the day I guess there
is still a chance that your DNA does in
fact Harbor some deep tie to G gasan but
that's not simply because he had a lot
of kids it's because his Empire existed
in a time and in a place where people
traveled to and fro for centuries all
that is to say humans are humans there's
nothing that can truly wall us off into
separate distinct groups because we have
such a rich genetic history wo together
across the globe over hundreds of
thousands of
years yes my brother final thoughts okay
good I can turn down the copium levels a
little bit because basically just what
he it sounds like he said is that uh not
that not ancestry that comes out of
there I mean it's going to become from
there's a lot of Mongols there were a
lot of Mongols right and a lot of them
uh practice the same type of progyny
that genas Khan did it was part of the
culture there but um what it did say
though is that we still have a common an
history through that region so through
like the Mongol Empire because our
Empire is going to spread and also the
Mongols did a lot of inter uh marriage
and allot of inter breeding themselves I
mean in fact even in their western part
of their empire basically what was
Persia they Blended so thoroughly that
they just pretty much just blended into
Oblivion almost um when they they even
converted to Islam and again inter Mar
and all that little bit of a different
story in eastern Asia there's a little
bit more separation between the uh the
the ruling Mongol Elite and and that's
during the Yuan Dynasty when the Mongols
ruled China for about a 100 years or so
but nevertheless nevertheless they were
an Empire that was built upon exchanging
of culture and ideas and technologies
that is why that's often called the
Mongols bring in the first
Global age minus the Americas but you
know what I mean a first real Eurasian
age and built that because they
conquered so much and then connected so
much so okay maybe you're not going
through the jenus Khan specifically but
it sounds like we still got all that
Mongol in us all right thanks for
watching today we'll see youall next
time bye
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