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Elon Musk is battling against foreign censorship amid pressure from Brazil and Australia, both of which are trying to extend their censorship laws internationally. Meanwhile, a bill that will ban TikTok unless its parent company sells it before Jan. 19, 2025, has now been enacted. President Joe Biden signed the bill on April 24 after the Senate passed it in a 70 to 18 vote. Former President Donald Trump had warned that banning TikTok could create a tech monopoly for other social networks like Facebook, and other concerns were raised that the language of the legislation could give a president the ability to go after other platforms.
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First off, Elon Musk right now is
having an international battle for censorship
because he had different countries trying
to force their censorship laws beyond their own borders.
Now, on this, let me show you first
what Modernity has to say about Australia
trying to do this right now.
It says an Australian senator has called for ex-owner Elon
Musk to be jailed for life for refusing
to adhere to the Australian government's demands
to remove a video of the brutal attack
on a Christian bishop in Sydney last week
by an apparent Muslim extremist.
It notes that after Bishop Marmari Emanuel
was attacked at his church in Sydney,
the video taken from a live stream
quickly went viral on X.
You might have seen it.
Australian officials and politicians
from both sides of the spectrum immediately
called for the footage to be removed in Australia.
But Elon Musk has refused to do so,
saying that X is a platform for freedom of expression
and it will not censor content that is not illegal,
especially beyond the borders of Australia.
Australia's so-called e-safety commissioner,
Julie Inman Grant, an elected official,
notably by the conservatives there,
has ordered both X and Meta to remove footage
of the stabbing under the Online Safety Act passed in 2021,
which empowers the e-safety department
to demand the removal of so-called class one material.
In other words, news they don't like.
X was ordered by the Australian federal court on Monday
to block all users from viewing the footage.
And the important thing with it
is that actually X blocked it in Australia.
The Australian government wants it blocked everywhere.
They want to censor it even right here in the United States.
And they're threatening to jail Elon Musk
and then fine him and so on
because he's not censoring the content for like Americans.
Now, the video of the Christian bishop, again Marmari,
went viral after an Islamist man
walked towards him during a sermon
and then began repeatedly stabbing him with a knife.
Witnesses say the man repeatedly shouted Allah Akbar
as he attacked the bishop
and the Islamist man was shown afterwards
smiling as people restrained him.
Now, the video is somewhat graphic, so be warned,
but I think it's necessary to show it.
The lesson, my brothers and sisters, is as follows.
You might expect many people were enraged by this.
There were people outside the church afterwards
wanting to get to the man
and the police, of course, prevented that from happening.
Afterwards, though, as tensions were kind of running high,
the bishop, who was stabbed, released a statement.
This is what he had to say.
I'm doing fine, recovering very quickly,
we thank the Lord Jesus.
So there is no need to be worried or concerned.
And a piece of advice to our beloved faithfuls,
I need you to act Christ-like.
The Lord Jesus never taught us to fight.
The Lord Jesus never taught us to retaliate.
The Lord Jesus never said to us,
an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
The Lord Jesus said, never return evil with evil,
but return evil with good.
Now, the bishop goes on to mention
that he forgives the man who stabbed him
and frankly, good on him,
because that takes some good spiritual strength.
It's a good reminder for myself as well, to be honest,
the nature of forgiveness.
But back to the takedown request
from the Australian government.
Elon Musk noted that they've already censored
the video in Australia.
They've already done it.
They've already abided by the standards of Australian law
within Australia's jurisdiction.
The problem is that he has, again, issues with it
because Australia, the government there,
they're demanding this video to be censored
in every part of the world, including in the United States.
And Elon Musk said, our concern is that
if any countries lie to censor content for all countries,
which is what the Australian E-Safety Commissioner
is demanding, then what is it to,
then what is to stop any country
from controlling the entire internet?
He said, we have already censored the content
in question for Australia pending legal appeal
and it is stored only on servers in the USA.
And that's a good point, in my opinion,
because frankly, if you let a country anywhere in the world
censor content for all countries on earth,
then does that not mean that that country
is able to dictate the internet freedom of the entire world?
Now, Elon Musk also notes the Australian
censorship commissar is demanding global content bans.
And he adds as well in another post,
that is exactly the issue.
Should the E-Safety Commissar,
he says an unelected official,
in Australia have authority over all countries on earth?
He's making it sound like Australia
is basically trying to be the world dictator
when it comes to freedom of speech.
Now, and frankly, we saw Australia
during the COVID-19 pandemic,
they were one of the most totalitarian countries
next to the Chinese Communist Party
when it came to their lockdowns and mandates and so on.
And of course, free speech as well.
Of course, even talking about vaccine safety and so on,
when Australia was borderline a crime under the government,
they went very far with it.
And so what happens if they can express
that beyond their own borders?
What does it mean if they can censor content here?
They have very extreme censorship laws in Australia.
But look, this is what I have personally
been warning about as well.
If U.S. tech companies or news outlets or anyone else
begin censoring based on the demands of other countries,
then the global censorship laws everywhere
are gonna be limited to the lowest common denominator.
The worst abusers of censorship will be able to dictate
the limits on free speech in the entire world.
It means that the most totalitarian countries
will set the standards.
Because again, the people who want to censor the most,
if it applies everywhere,
then what does that mean for freedom of speech?
It means that, look, right now it's Australia.
What if it's the Chinese Communist Party tomorrow?
Will these websites also bow down to them?
And also in the United States,
I would note, we have legal protections
on the freedom of speech and the freedom of press
enshrined in our constitution.
And I would question, would it also violate our laws
to allow foreign governments to censor our speech?
In other words, in the enforcement of international law,
would we allow American law to be violated?
Now, in response to the demands,
X issued a statement on why the company
is not going to honor the demands
from Australia's censorship authorities.
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Hey, welcome back.
The Australian government is pressuring X,
formerly known as Twitter,
to censor a video of a Christian bishop being attacked.
And in response to the demands,
X issued a statement on why the company
will not honor the demands
from Australia's censorship authorities,
arguing, again, that such a demand
is not within the scope of Australian law.
They don't have the jurisdiction.
Now, ex-Global Government Affairs
said this in an official post.
They say, the recent attacks in Australia
are a horrific assault on our free society.
Our condolences go out to those who have been affected,
and we stand with the Australian people
in calling for those responsible to be brought to justice.
And notes that following these events,
the Australian e-safety commissioner ordered X
to remove certain posts in Australia
that publicly commented on the recent attacks
against a Christian bishop.
These posts did not violate X's rules on violent speech,
which is basically limited to calling for it,
not showing acts that have taken place as news incidents.
They state, X believes that e-safety's order,
again, that's the Australian commission, right,
was not within the scope of Australian law,
and we complied with the directive
pending a legal challenge.
They say that X has now received a demand
from the e-safety commissioner
that X globally withhold these posts
or face a daily fine of 785,000 Australian dollars,
which is about 500,000 USD.
Now, this was a tragic event, they say,
and we do not allow people to praise it
or call for further violence.
There is a public conversation happening about the event
on X and across Australia,
as is often the case when events
of major public concern occur.
They note that while X respects the rights of a country
to enforce its laws within its jurisdiction,
that's the important part because there's jurisdiction,
the e-safety commissioner does not have the authority
to dictate what content X's users can see globally.
They say we will robustly challenge this unlawful
and dangerous approach in court.
Global takedown orders go against the very principles
of a free and open internet
and threaten free speech everywhere.
And again, I would go even further than that.
I'd say that the attempt
by the Australian censorship authorities
to censor the free speech of Americans
is a violation of American law under the constitution,
and frankly, I would say
that them violating American law
through their ridiculous order is terrible.
And in my opinion, honoring a demand like this
would mean violating the law of the United States,
of our constitution, on behalf of a foreign government
that is trying to go far, far beyond its jurisdiction,
in my opinion, right?
Now, on another note, events like this are crucial
for public debate, in my opinion.
Again, in this one in particular,
it enraged a lot of Christians.
A lot of people were very angry about this.
I would say, actually, the internet conversation
was pretty rough for a bit,
but remember, other events that were deemed newsworthy,
like police shootings used for race protests
in the United States, they don't seem to be treated
with that same standard.
When the events benefit the interests of the left,
oftentimes they publish it everywhere.
They want it to be seen by everybody.
They'll say, say her name, say his name.
They'll make you repeat it, they'll make you chant it,
they'll make you say it out loud,
and they will not let you forget it.
That's allowed to stand.
So why is it that when a Christian is attacked,
for example, suddenly they want that to be silenced?
Should events be censored only if they get
the wrong groups of people angry?
Should only select incidents be publicized
depending on who the victims are
and depending on which side of the political spectrum
the anger is on.
Now look, this is part of the debate
now taking place in Australia,
and they're suggesting that the government head
on censorship, the E-Safety Commission,
is an activist, not a politician,
and they allege that her interest in censorship
is based on her activist views.
They're alleging this isn't about, say,
just harmful content.
It's about content she doesn't want
because it goes against her political views.
Here's a piece from Sky News in Australia
after an appeal that was issued
for this E-Safety Commission
over a different takedown order
that she issued because somebody was accused
of misgendering a trans activist.
Watch.
You would think the E-Safety Commissioner
would have bigger priorities, I don't know,
child exploitation for one,
than to bring down posts on X.
Yeah, that's right.
Look, there is a serious issue
with the exposure of children
to graphic and obscene content,
and it needs to be dealt with.
The problem that you've got here
with this E-Safety Commissioner,
she's an activist.
She will continue to expand her role
to police the internet, to censor debate
in a way that's consistent with her own ideological views.
We're just talking about the EPA.
It's the exact same problem.
You have these unelected bureaucrats
that have vague powers,
and they will fill it with their views.
And she has a track record of censorship,
and it only ever targets one side.
And unfortunately, we're seeing that happen again.
Now, Musk has, for the most part,
agreed to honour the laws of each nation
when it comes to censorship,
but has recently started taking
a much stronger stance on this.
The request for global censorship,
one of the big ones,
started getting attention in January
after the government in India
began demanding that he censor
a BBC documentary on X
that was critical of Indian Prime Minister Modi.
Hollywood Reporter said this,
they said,
the first half of the two-part documentary in India,
The Modi Question, aired on BBC2 on January 17th,
and it says the series investigates the,
quote, persistent allegations against Modi
of fanning the flames of Hindu nationalism
and prejudice against India's largest Muslim minority.
They say in particular, the DOC,
sorry, the Doc, I think,
explores his role in the 2002 riots
in the Western Indian state of Gujarat,
where Modi was chief minister at the time,
and it says that it left over 1,000 people dead,
and the majority of them Muslims.
Further, it states that although the doc,
the documentary, has not been aired within India,
Kanchan Gupta, a senior advisor
in the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting,
said Tuesday that Musk's Twitter and Alphabet YouTube
were ordered by the Indian government
to block all links to the film within the country,
and he later said that both platforms
have complied with the directions.
Now, of course, that was a censorship request
that was applied within India,
and for the most part, again,
that's been Musk's stance on this.
While he will openly oppose it,
while he'll speak about it,
he tends to not want to censor,
he tends to follow domestic law.
If a country has laws,
he will honor it within the boundaries
of their jurisdiction,
but if they try to go beyond their borders,
that's where he seems to be drawing the line, right?
It's not like a global request
like Australia's trying to do, for example.
Although even in India, this was very controversial
because this was a BBC documentary.
Yes, it was critical of the Indian prime minister,
but again, it's news,
and should news be censored,
and should American companies be forced
to censor news in foreign countries
because they don't like what it says?
Musk had also said he would make requests
like this public when he receives them,
which he did in India, by the way,
which also put some additional pressure on governments
when they try to get content pulled offline.
If they try to do it, Musk exposes it,
and interestingly, it brings more attention to the issue
than if they had just let it go anyways.
Now, Musk's push against this, though, goes a bit further.
He's pushing against the global censorship authorities,
and it really started gaining steam
when he got a request to censor users
issued by the radical communist, I would say,
Supreme Court in Brazil.
They have a very radical, rogue Supreme Court
that is using law as if they just write it on the fly,
basically, they do whatever they want,
and rather than censor on behalf
of this radical judge in Brazil,
Elon Musk said that he would expose
what is taking place in that country.
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