In this episode, Dr. Douglas Lucas discusses the importance of eating meat and highlights the top 10 nutrients found in meat that are often lacking in plant-based diets. He emphasizes the significance of these nutrients for brain function, DNA synthesis, red blood cell formation, energy production, muscle strength, hydration, immune function, and overall health. Dr. Lucas also addresses common misconceptions about meat consumption and encourages better practices in animal agriculture.
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00:00 Introduction 00:58 The Importance of Eating Meat 04:05 Nutrient #2: Iron 05:31 Nutrient #3: Omega-3s 06:30 Nutrient #4: Creatine 07:00 Nutrient #5: Vitamin D 08:25 The Potential Negative Impact of Vitamin D Supplementation 09:42 Nutrient #6: Carnosine 11:24 Nutrient #7: Taurine 12:45 Nutrient #8: Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA) 14:05 Nutrient #9: Retinol 15:25 Nutrient #10: Zinc
Welcome back to the Dr. Doug show your resource for bone health hormone optimization and health span
So meat has been villainized for let's call it the last several decades
There have been claims that meat consumption will increase your risk of cancer type 2 diabetes
Heart disease strokes gi disorders kidney disease obesity high blood pressure and on and on and on
You guys have probably heard me talk about meat and how I feel about it
And it's fun to refute these claims
And honestly, I love digging into the evidence that kind of goes back and forth, but we're not doing that today
today I want to have a conversation around what isn't talked about enough because we get stuck in this back and forth of
You know the agriculture and the environment, you know, does it cause cancer does it not diabetes or not?
One of the things we don't talk about a lot is really why we should be eating meat in the first place
What are the top nutrients that you find in meat?
That you don't find in any significant amount anywhere else
so I want to talk about the top 10 nutrients that fit into that category and
Really pay attention to this if you're not consuming a lot of animal products
Not because I want to change your mind
but because I want you to understand the things that you're potentially not getting so that you can add them in your diet elsewhere because
Let's face it. You can't eat a plant-based diet that is well formed
But you have to be very very intentional about it
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All right, so the number one nutrient that is commonly left out of a plant-based diet is b12
B12 is critical for brain function dna synthesis red blood cell formation. All of those things are critically important
Deficiencies will leave you feeling tired
And foggy if you develop anemia and you have neurological issues
Those typically occur after about you know, three years ish of being b12 deficient in diet
So it can take a lot of time. In fact, I commonly see people that aren't eating a well-rounded plant-based diet
This is around that kind of three to five year time span that a lot of people will peter out
Of eating a plant-based diet because they don't feel good. The anemia is
Commonly mistreated and confused with iron deficiency. So this is a really really important thing
Uh, a lot of doctors are not getting the appropriate labs serum b12
Mma or methyl malonic acid to look at actual functional b12 deficiency
Your iron level is very well may look low because you're also not consuming iron from red meat if you're not eating b12
Sources like red meat, but it's generally not an iron deficiency. Although it could be but more commonly it's a b12 deficiency
So if you're adding iron in this is an important point, too
If you're adding iron in it can actually be adding oxidative stress. It can make you feel worse
It can cause immune dysfunction so many different things. So
Recognize that b12 is found exclusively in animal meat
There is no way to get this through plant products only through supplementation
If you're not eating red meat red meat is the best source of b12. One of the best reasons to eat red meat
All right. So number two is iron specifically heme iron
So iron as I just mentioned has the potential to do bad things
But we do need to consume some and we need to consume some that comes in a digestible and usable form
So heme iron is found in high concentrations, particularly in red meat, but also in poultry and fish
Heme iron is better absorbed and utilized than non-heme iron
particularly in the the reacted iron that is present in a lot of
Foods where it's added as a as an additive
Those are essentially iron filings literally like chunks of metal that are added into
Things like cereal and grains and other things when it's fortified with iron, so we don't want to eat fortified iron
We want to eat real iron real iron and the heme form comes from particularly red meat
But some other meats too so this concept of iron deficiency versus overload like I mentioned before is really really
Complex, but again the better forms of iron you consume like heme iron. It's going to be better utilized
It's going to be better metabolized. It's also going to come with other things that you need to metabolize iron like vitamin a and copper again
metal shavings and grains metal shavings and cereal not going to have the same impact and can have a really
Inflammatory and negative effect on your body
So better to get iron from animal sources than from foods that are fortified with iron or potentially even plant sources
Which are non-heme forms of iron
All right, number three omega threes. That wasn't coincidental. Sorry for the pun
omega-3 fatty acids like dha and epa are polyunsaturated fats that come from
Specifically animal products like fatty fish like salmon and mackerel and sardines
They can be supplemented and even in people that eat animal products often have to be supplemented
But always better to get them naturally if possible
So consuming again fish like salmon mackerel sardines the smaller the fish the less likely to be contaminated
But the benefits of epa and dha are significant. They have found to be very helpful in heart health inflammation reduction
Neurosupport and cognitive function there is an omega-3 available in plants and this is an important point
So I hear often that ala
Is a substitute for dha and epa and i'm just going to use the acronyms because the full
Word is really long but ala is an omega-3 that is available in plants
But like all things that are available in plants that have to be converted into the active form or the animal form
You have to convert ala into dha and epa for them to be utilized
The absorption of ala the conversion of ala is quite variable across the population
So it's really hard to say how much ala you would need to get adequate dha and epa
So better to get it from food if possible, which again only comes from animals
All right number four
creatine
So creatine is a powerhouse nutrient
It is something that again is often supplemented because if we can really maximize creatine
We can see tremendous benefit in energy production muscle strength hydration neuro function
It is a really cool supplement and something i've been taking myself for years
Again, always better to get through whole foods if possible. The only source of creatine comes from muscle meat. So creatine
Present in muscle meat. You can get a lot of creatine if you're consuming animal products number five vitamin d
Now most people are thinking that we need to take vitamin d in supplement form and sometimes that's true
But there has been a push over the last several decades to really encourage people to consume a lot of what we call in
supplementation form d3
It's not really d3
It is uh, one of many many forms of vitamin d that exist
Uh, cholecalciferol is what we're supplementing widely across the board as vitamin d and it's not natural
So we've been led to believe that this super physiologic dosing, you know, two thousand five thousand ten thousand
I know people that are taking fifty thousand iu of cholecalciferol a day and I know doctors that recommend that much
It'll drive your blood levels of 25 hydroxy d which is what most doctors measure 25 hydroxy d in blood
Through the roof I used to do this, too
But what we're finding in our practice is that when you get high levels of 25 hydroxy d which I would consider to be anything
over 50
Potentially even anything over 30. You're going to start having a negative impact on some other things if you go back a couple decades
Nobody cared if your vitamin d was anywhere near 30, you know 30 to 40 40 to 50
You weren't deficient until you were less than 30
In fact, you really weren't deficient until you were less than 20
We have over the past couple decades for reasons. I won't get into today
That expectation has been pushed to be greater than 50. Now. It's greater than 80. I see people pushing for 80 to 100
The truth is that when you look at the literature supporting this concept that we need vitamin d supplementation and we need these super high
Super physiologic doses the evidence isn't there
Show me one study outside of osteoporosis
One study that shows benefit clinically of vitamin d3 supplementation in the form of cholecalciferol for anything
And you're going to struggle to find it. There is lots of conversation that it improves the immune system. It reduces cancer risk
It has all these potential things but show me a study that proves it and proves that we need levels that high to do it
So it's a really interesting space. So i'm not saying that we should encourage people to be vitamin d deficient
We shouldn't but we should encourage people to get it naturally whenever possible because when you supplement with cholecalciferol
You have a negative impact on vitamin a specifically retinol and we see this in labs now all the time
It can have a negative impact on magnesium levels because we have to then
Sulfate that cholecalciferol to convert it into the active form which your body doesn't have to do with natural vitamin d
And you can also have a negative impact on iron metabolism and copper levels
And so cholecalciferol supplementation is not without potential negatives
We don't want people to be vitamin d deficient, especially people with osteoporosis
But driving levels through the roof might have negative consequences that people aren't talking about
So what do we do?
We get it from natural sources if possible natural sources of vitamin d do exist
They exist in animal products more specifically dairy and some other again fatty fish will have small amounts of vitamin d
Mostly you're going to get it from the sun conversion of uvb from vitamin d precursors in the skin
That get converted into vitamin d and then gets converted into the active form of vitamin d
That natural process is much much better and it's not going to have negative impact on those other things that I just mentioned
To be complete here. I also wanted to mention that in addition to fatty fish
You can also get vitamin d from liver from egg yolks
And again, I mentioned cheeses before particularly, you know, the more age the cheese the better
We need vitamin d especially in the osteoporosis population to support calcium absorption, but it has to be done in context
You also need other things like vitamin k which you can get from those same foods
Vitamin d does have benefits
So i'm starting to hear more and more people talking about this potential toxicity of cholecalciferol and I like that
But I don't think we should throw the baby out with the bath water vitamin d deficiency is real
And particularly for people that have osteoporosis. We do need vitamin d
I just don't think we need really high levels of 25 hydroxy d because of the negative consequences of having
A high precursor from an artificial form of that vitamin
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All right. So number six
Carnicine so carnicine is something that I actually used to give people in supplementation
The literature behind using it as a supplement just isn't strong enough for me to continue to do that
But I love the idea of it because carnicine is really a combination of two amino acids. It is alanine and histidine put together
Carnicine is available in muscle meat as well like creatine and everything else i'm talking about for the most part
But carnicine acts as an antioxidant it acts as a buffering agent
And if you're not sure what a buffering agent is
It is something that can have an impact on ph and you might be thinking but wait, I thought meat causes acidity
No, it doesn't and this is another reason why
carnicine acts to prevent glycation and you may have heard about people talking about
ages or advanced glycation in products and how if you consume meat you're going to have all these ages and you're going to get
diabetes and die early
Nonsense, it's garbage. We've been consuming meat for thousands of years
This is not you know new our body knows what to do with this and even
The dipeptide carnicine is going to help prevent glycation. So meat knows what it's doing
Your body knows what it's doing. It's been adapted to this for a long time ages are not new to us
That's why we actually have the receptors for ages
That's why we call them rages and people love that acronym, but don't listen to that. It's garbage
Carnicine is also neuroprotective carnicine is anti-inflammatory. You might be thinking man. I thought the meat was inflammatory
It's not it is anti-inflammatory carnicine also has anti-cancer properties, but wait, I thought meat causes cancer it doesn't please pay attention
Carnicine in addition to all the other things can help to reduce inflammation reduce oxidative stress reduce ages
All of those things and remember carnicine doesn't exist in plants
All right. Let's talk about number seven
Taurine so taurine is another awesome amino acid now. It is not considered essential
That's why it's not in the eaa or bcaa list
But it's often discussed because taurine has some really unique properties and there's some really great research behind taurine
So taurine is a sulfur containing amino acid
It's found naturally in the body and it's widely distributed in animal tissues
And that's why we can get it when we eat meat. It's unique because it's not used to build proteins like other amino acids
Instead it plays a lot of really interesting and critical roles in the body
So let's just go through a couple of those
So taurine helps to regulate the volume of cells by controlling the movement of water in and out you want to talk about hydration
Taurine can help you to stay hydrated on a cellular level
It's a key component of bile acids
So if you're wondering what bile acids are they're what our body produces to help us to absorb and break apart fats
Um, you need them for absorption of vitamins in the intestine and then it gets conjugated in the formation of bile salts
Uh bile salts again are what we use to make
To break down fats and to use fats that we consume through diet
Taurine is also an antioxidant taurine has been shown to be cardio protective
again, it is
Remarkable all the things that you can put together from this one amino acid i'll continue on here
So taurine can play a role in the development and function of the brain and the nervous system
It's thought to have neuroprotective effects particularly
With neuro injuries so people that have traumatic brain injury do well do they do better with taurine?
Than without it's involved in the flow of calcium in and out of cells, which is not so much for osteoporosis
But more for like muscle function enzyme activity neurotransmitter release neurotransmitter function
It can have an impact on exercise performance by reducing fatigue increasing fat burning decreasing muscle damage
It can potentially reduce homocysteine, which is a biomarker we use
Again, the list just goes on and on and on
So taurine is actually kind of become our replacement for carnosine because taurine has better research behind it
And it can really do some amazing stuff
All right. So let's talk about this next one. So conjugated linoleic acid cla
Cla is another type of polyunsaturated fat. So it's a pufa
It's an omega-6 and you might be thinking but wait, I thought omega-6s were bad and they can be they can be inflammatory
but they just need to be balanced and we need to get them again from food rather than
Big chunks of them in highly processed food and then they're going to be processed better
Cla is found naturally again in meat
In dairy particularly of ruminants like cows and goats and sheep the bacteria in their stomachs stomachs plural
That aid in the digestion of grass also produce cla
So studies show that cla can help reduce body fat by increasing the rate of fat oxidation and increasing energy expenditure
Some evidence does suggest that cla can actually help increase muscle strength and lean body mass
There's research that shows that cla might have a protective effect against certain types of cancer including breast prostate colorectal
It does this by inhibiting cancer cell growth and inducing apoptosis
That's cell death of cells that we don't want to live anymore
Cla has also been studied for its potential to improve heart health by reducing risk factors for cardiovascular disease
Like ldl cholesterol and triglycerides. That's a concept for another day
Um, but we'll take it for what it is
Um cla might also be anti-inflammatory and there's some animal studies showing that cla can actually enhance immune response
so again, like
All of these potential things and you can see how these things overlap and then adding them
And if you were to try to add all these things through supplementation, you'd have like a massive stack
But you get them through your food and you don't have to worry about that
Number nine is retinol. I mentioned retinol before when we're talking about vitamin d
Retinol is really important because retinol is responsible for actually the function of vitamin d
It's responsible for the cellular action of vitamin d
So vitamin d has to go in and actually go not only into the cell but into the nucleus and you have these nuclear receptors
And you can't utilize vitamin d appropriately without vitamin a cholecalciferol blocks vitamin a so vitamin a is really important
That's another reason why we shouldn't have too much vitamin d and we should do as much natural vitamin d production as possible
Vitamin a is also responsible for optimal vision immune function skin health a lot of things that vitamin a does
Important point about vitamin a you might be saying but wait, there's vitamin a beta carotene in plants true
Beta carotene is a precursor of vitamin a it has to be absorbed and converted just like all plant things that can become animal things
It has to be absorbed that's going to be variable based on genetics
And then it has to be converted also variable based on genetics
So the amount of beta carotene that you would need to get an optimal amount of vitamin a
It might be not too much, but it might be
Ridiculously high and you just don't know you can measure vitamin a in blood
You can measure vitamin a in functional tests or you can just get vitamin a through meat and through liver
And you can get it through natural forms like that. Cod liver oil is a great way to get it through supplementation as well
And finally number 10
Zinc so a lot of talk about zinc over the last couple decades
Especially since the pandemic zinc does have benefit for immune function copper metabolism wound healing and more
Zinc comes from animals and plants, but it's more bioavailable when it comes from animals
You can get a little bit from plants, but if you're gonna have a hard time absorbing it
Um, and again, you'll see that consistently over and over and over. All right, so in conclusion
Animal products get a bad rap and i'm the first to admit
animal husbandry
Agriculture needs a massive overhaul, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water
Animal based foods are what propelled our species to dominance. It's what put us at the top of the food chain
They are what made us who we are. We need to understand that eating what we are designed to eat is not wrong
We should encourage better practices like regenerative agriculture. We should
Stand up for that. We should be vocal about that
But in order to make change you have to be healthy yourself. You have to be energetic. You have to be powerful
Let's stop looking at highly processed foods as a rational alternative to meat
They're not they're a marketing strategy for food companies disguising garbage as health food
Don't be fooled by these well-funded sickness provoking maleficent companies disguised as green industries and health food saviors
There is no substitute for meat. Let's work together to create a better world around animals and around meat production
All right, that's it. I'll step off my soapbox
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