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This interview was originally published on American Thought Leaders on EpochTV on March 16, 2023.
“Small fiber neuropathy feels like you’re on fire … It was in my ribcage and all the way down my spine,” says Jessica Sutta, a former Pussycat Dolls member.
“It spread through my whole body. I remember staring at the ceiling and thinking, ‘Oh my God, this is it. I’m dying,’” Sutta says.
In this episode, she shares for the first time what she experienced, and why she has decided to speak out.
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Jessica Sutta, Former Pussycat Dolls Member: ‘I Was Severely Injured’ by the Shot [FULL EPISODE]
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I started developing a Tremor and then
the next couple nights I started getting
involuntary head jerks and leg jerks
today I sit down with former Pussycat
Dolls member Jessica SAA a singer and
Dancer with two multiplatinum albums and
several top 10 singles in a repertoire
when the neuropathy came it spread
through my whole body I remember staring
at the ceiling and thinking oh my God
this is it I'm dying today she shares
for the first time what happened to her
after getting a second madna covid
vaccine shot in why she chose to speak
out one death is enough one one child on
the football
field is
enough you know they I just read that
FDA pulled a an ey drop because it
killed one person why is it so different
with this this is American thought
leaders and I'm Yan
Kell Jessica SAA such a pleasure to have
you on American thought leaders thank
you Yan thank you so much for having me
well it's kind of amazing to have you
here on the American thought leader set
you know you're we a member of The
Pussycat Dolls one of the most
successful I guess girl bands of all
time um multiplatinum winner you've had
a solo
career maybe just let's start by you
just sort of summarizing for me what
brings you
here well um I was severely injured by
the madna
vaccine and
um I found that your show is the safest
place to
be um to speak my truth because I know
there's a lot of people suffering out
there and
um I know it's brave for me to do this
which I think is crazy um but now I have
the strength to do
it um and that's why I'm here well thank
you for having me I very I'm very happy
to have have you here and uh I think we
should kind of start from the beginning
because there might be a few people out
there that aren't familiar with with
your uh dance and singing days so maybe
maybe just start us off you know how did
you even kind of get into the whole
world of music and wow well I'm a dancer
since I was three um I love dance I love
performing so much um I went to a
performing art school called New World
School of the Arts where I focused on
dance and then later on after knee
injury I switched to theater and um got
into acting and in Miami I um once I
graduated from high school um I danced
for the Miami Heat did music videos I
danced with Will Smith um and then I was
lucky enough to be on a soap Abra called
Ocean Avenue uh it was really fun I
enjoyed it so much I loved being on set
but um I'll let you in on a little
secret um I'm a terrible actress so I
moved to Los Angeles to act and it
wasn't really going so well for me and
um My First Love obviously dance um I
was asked to do
um
a public service announcement for Smoky
the Bear it was my first job in Los
Angeles and uh it happened to be uh
Robin Anton who's the creator of the
cat dolls was a choreographer for
this public service announcement uh for
Smokey the Bear and we were putting out
for forest fires with our top hats um
and Tuxedo leotards in the middle of the
forest um it got cut out of course you
know it got cut out of the actual PSA
which was very sad but uh that's when I
established little relationship with
Robin Anton and about a on set she said
you know I really love you I want you to
do me a favor I want you to cut your
bangs and I want you to be in the
Pussycat BTS I was like what is that
okay sounds good um and that's kind of
how I started in the Pussycat Dolls it
was a cast of about 50
girls um the lead was Carmen Electra um
we had a lot of celebrity guests that
came on um which gave a lot of notoriety
in Hollywood it was a very cool
underground show um where Christina
Applegate was an MC uh Christina AG
Galera perform Gwen Stefani um and when
Gwen Stefani came in uh she actually got
the attention of uh her label which was
inner scope records and they were very
interested to do something with the
group but they had no idea what to do
with it cuz it was just so wild um and
uh it went from 20 girls to six girls
and I I stayed at the six and I was part
of the pop group The Pussycat Dolls and
uh it AB absolutely changed my life
forever it was incredible and then after
the Pussycat Dolls I I did some solo
work um I did some uh singing and dance
music I have five number one hits on the
dance club uh Billboard Chart I love
performing and uh it's been a really
amazing fun
career uh recently actually in uh 2019
we decided to have a
reunion um which was really fun um but
unfortunately Co stopped that so it's no
longer happening well in Co you you know
really changed all sorts of things and I
suppose it indeed brought you here
ultimately yeah so what happened to you
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um
it you know I'm I'm a law-abiding
citizen I want to do what's right for
the community I wanted to stop this
pandemic um I'm not antia in anyway
so I went and I I went to protect my
community
and unfortunately um my reaction
wasn't what I thought it would be and it
um it changed my life um and it's been
almost two years and it's something that
um not really allowed to speak publicly
about because it's so
taboo and maybe it's rare but it's real
and um I live it every single day but uh
I think my point of of being here
Yan um since I'm also a fan of your show
um I would like to speak to the vacine
jur and let them know that they're not
alone um this is real
uh your voice matters um you are loved
it's time to take off your tin foil hat
that has been so graciously graciously
given to you by other people um because
you're not crazy
um it's happening and I think it's time
to get the researchers and the doctors
um involved to to heal us because I know
we will
heal um and I think it's important to
speak out now
truly well thank you for doing that
and and well so it can be really
difficult especi because the number of
these vaccine injuries that I'm familiar
with indeed uh you know Brian dressen
who I've had on the show is a kind of a
similar situation to you where it's not
obvious on the surface when you look at
someone that anything's different and it
might be very easy for someone to say
well it's all in your head or or there's
some other reason or anyway there's
there's a whole lot of um it's it's not
obvious No No in fact so I can tell you
my journey so um three days after of the
madna vaccine
I woke up in the most
excruciating um muscle spasm and um as
an athlete and a professional
dancer it just felt so different it felt
like uh I'd broken my rib I'd broken my
rib before on tour so I I I know pain
very well I've danced about three shows
after I broke my rib so I'm familiar
with pain um so I went and did all the
therapies that I would normally do the
chiropractor acupuncture massage rest
and nothing would get this muscle spasm
out so uh it was September 15th 2021 I I
admitted myself to the hospital
um and uh they ran all these tests all
this blood work I did a CAT scan and
come to find out I'm in perfect health
like there was absolutely nothing wrong
with me um so they sent me home with
antibiotics saying that you know there
was a kidney infection or whatever they
had to wait to get the test and they
said okay so I just kind of went on and
tried the same therapies and uh nothing
was working and I was getting to a point
where it was really hard to breathe it
just felt like burning and um just like
knives just knives in my side um and it
was incredibly debilitating I couldn't
even lift my son I just had my son and
that was really hard cuz just even
holding him was like a struggle so um
our trainer mentioned to us that uh a
friend of his in Boston had an adverse
reaction
to um the covid vaccine and that I need
to take a look at something so um my
husband that night showed me a video of
um like a thousand women um having these
horrific um side effects from this
vaccine and um I just remember telling
my husband like can you turn it off I
don't want to see this
come on you know no way this is just a
muscle spasm I'm it's going to go away I
mean you
know um and then
eventually it got so bad I remember I
think it was like December 7th around
that time it had spread through my whole
body where I was just so heavy and my
eyelids and my legs and my feet
everything hurt and I just couldn't
move and I was I lost about so I was
about 50 60 pounds overweight um in
August still from post pregnancy I had
lost that weight by December I was
already back to like you know
underweight which was about
like5 so it was um it was crazy because
you know I live in Hollywood and I was
getting compliments I was like wow you
look great what are you doing and I was
like I'm not doing anything different I
just I don't know what's going on with
my body but it just it feels like um my
body's eating itself so
um
yeah yeah it's even hard to talk about
you know just speaking here right now
it's like wow I'm actually I actually
have a voice to speak out on this as
scary as it is you know so I eventually
found a a massage therapist that was
working on my back and she finally got
the muscle spasm out and once I got the
muscle spasm out I was lay laying in bed
all of a sudden I started developing a
Tremor and then the next couple nights I
started getting involuntary head jerks
and leg
jerks and it scared me because it felt
like oh my God this is not my body
anymore what is going
on and
um so when I went to a
rheumatologist she said you know you you
have fiber in my Alia I did a whole
another blood test um a whole line of
blood tests um everything you can
imagine nothing nothing indicated any
type of um autoimmune disease nothing
was
abnormal so she said you you have to
work out it's fibromyalgia you'll work
through this so when I would do that it
actually made things worse um and I was
in a yoga
pose and as I was twisting my spine I
came back and that's when the neuropathy
started and um just very briefly you
know for those that might not know what
does that mean exactly so um small fiber
neuropathy um feels like you're on fire
uh it feels like it's burning all
throughout your your rib cage from in my
case it was in my rib cage and all the
way down my spine and it would come in
kind of like contractions it would come
in
waves and it was so debilitating and I
just didn't know what to
do um and at the time I had switched
insurances um and uh I begged my general
practitioner can I please see an
neologist I I really feel like
something's very wrong um and she said
okay she finally let me see him and then
the first thing he said was when did you
get the vaccine I said you know he goes
oh I I think you had an adverse reaction
and that was the first time that I
acknowledged the fact that that was
actually happening to me when you saw
that video earlier of the many many
women that were having the Tremors and
the adverse
reactions I'm sorry to put you through
that that's okay but um but for for some
reason you just weren't ready to accept
that this could be a possibility even
though you had mentioned earlier that
there was a that you had taken the
vaccine and they were kind of ignoring
that so you in the back of your mind you
knew just trying to sort of chart your
thinking through this because I didn't
want it to be real you know especially
as I was just trying to do the right
thing I couldn't imagine that this could
ever happen this wasn't um something
that was warned I didn't get a heads up
that this could be a reaction kind of an
autoimmune response
and um to this day I still get gaslit to
think that it's not real so that's a com
having spoken to many people who have
been injured now this is a very common
situation whether it's doctors you know
there was even this you know video that
went around of a woman who had very
severe Tremors and she wanted to show
people this is what can happen right but
never mind people not believing it but
people sort of you know making fun of it
this is a reality in our society today
what what is your reaction to that oh
it's it's so painful but you know what
I've been gastate a lot in my life so I
studied how to kind of navigate through
it
so as hard as it is when people are
gaslighting me and just trying to make
it seem like what's happening is not
happening um I think you got have to go
back to your truth and know
exactly um how you feel and also my
fellow
vaxed injured friends you know their
experiences are very real and I've seen
it firsthand as to other people have not
seen that they don't have friends that
have mitoch carditis from this they
don't have friends that have you know
similar symptoms like I do um cuz when I
went to the hospital so F when when the
neuropathy came um and spread through my
whole body um I remember staring at the
ceiling and thinking oh my God this is
it I'm dying I'm dying this is it I mean
I have everything I've ever wanted in my
entire life and um it's almost over like
I didn't know so I I went to the
hospital you know for the second time
and that was in May it was May
3rd and
uh I talk about being gaslit that was
probably one of the worst experiences of
my life and I unless my arm is falling
off I won't step foot in another
hospital again it was um they didn't
want to believe it even though I had
been diagnosed from the neurologist from
that
hospital and somehow through like my
therapies and all of that I had
developed a um a lesion on my spine on
my C5
C6 um so you know they were like okay so
this is what we think um you have
symptoms of of Ms but you don't have MS
so that's good right and and I was like
I don't know if that's good you know at
least you can treat them as what do you
do with me here you know well in 3
months you'll be fine and this is just
going to leave your body and just don't
get the booster you'll be
okay um yeah it's been 2 years so it's
it's not getting any better if anything
it's getting progressively worse and um
that's when I started really searching
for answers and and and doing as much
research as I possibly can and opening
my mind and
broadening making my uh my mind more
Broad in the sense of like learning
about everything and listening to
everything everyone has to say like I
want to hear it all I want to hear the
scientist I was really drawn to Dr
Robert Malone I I believe he's a hero I
I'm I'm so grateful for that man when he
speaks it's just so I just did a lot of
research and then I came across react
19 and
um I I saw uh Brienne dren speak on
Congress and she was talking about her
uh experience it was so similar to mine
but what scared me the most was that she
was in a
wheelchair and
um as a dancer and as a new mom that's
terrifying and
uh I'm a fighter I'm not going to get it
to there you know hopefully not but um
yeah so she gave me a lot of um strength
without even knowing it and that's when
I reached out to react 19 on Instagram
and I said thank you so much for the
work you're doing I'm I'm actually VX
injured I'm terrified to speak out
um but God bless you and and God bless
you know you guys being on the front
line and I know that they're getting so
much hate and all of these things but
thank you because it means so much
you're you're saving me you're saving me
because I feel like I'm going
crazy you
know you know in those early days um and
even now frankly there was a lot of
pressure
to get vaccinated there was all these
influence saying this is what you need
to do you had doctors saying things like
what you just described without really
understanding you know the the cost
benefit analysis right which I think
every doctor should and you mentioned
you wanted to do the right thing there
was this sort of sense that this is the
right thing to do for the community
right um but what did you ever feel
pressure like oh yes I felt a ton of
pressure you know um from the media
people in the industry speaking out and
kind of bullying people and saying
you're a bad person if you don't get
this vaccine like I don't want to talk
to you don't listen to my music looking
back I think it was so incredibly
irresponsible for them to do that um
especially some of them that I know
personally that know about my condition
uh is still I think they just didn't
want to believe me um but me staying
silent um I believe is irresponsible of
me to do so that's why I I was like okay
eventually when I feel better I'm going
to speak
out and um when I saw your interview
with Bri and and just and I really am a
fan of your show um I was like yeah I
want to do it with Yan I think Yan's the
best to to do this so thank you for
having
me cuz I don't want to talk to anyone
else I'm glad to have you here yeah
thank you um you know what does it mean
for you as a in your career
to go public like this like you are
today it's probably one of the worst
things I could ever
do I mean it's it's very frowned upon
still in the
industry I think people you
know get treated so poorly for speaking
their truth you know um but here's the
thing I'm not angry I'm I'm definitely
like sad when I think about it and um
but I'm not angry I'm not pointing any
finger
I I what's done is done it is what it
is um I live in a solution based life
now you know I I have a son I want to I
want to have another baby eventually if
I can
um I think it's just I think it's just
time to heal the community so I'm okay
with the repercussions that come along
with it because I'm coming from my heart
I'm not
angry not anymore at
least
you know I remember when we were talking
offline um that you mentioned to me that
early on you had a while you were
pregnant you even had a doctor recommend
that you take the vaccine during
pregnancy but something told you not to
do that but tell tell me about this yeah
she so it was about gosh it was like 32
weeks pregnant and um she had mentioned
that there she was giving her patients
uh the covid vaccine and that it was
fine and the babies are healthy and
they're actually immune to co if they
come when they come to the world and
it's actually a very good thing um you
know next time you come let's do it and
you know I loved my doctor of course I
was like okay well you know let me think
about it so I got home and I I told my
husband and my husband's like no no no
no no no you didn't want to do it before
cuz I didn't I I I truly was
apprehensive because I was already
scared in pregnancy it just it was a
stressful time for me because I just
wanted to protect my baby so much and we
were we you know I was pregnant during a
pandemic so I mean I was so paranoid and
just kind of stayed in my bubble and
just stayed away from people as much as
I could you know and um I was like okay
yeah you know what you're right you're
right you know um cuz I was kind of
easily influenced back then cuz I just
wanted to do the right thing but looking
back I don't talk to her anymore um and
uh I have a lot of resentment towards
that situation because I I truly could
have lost my son with the reaction that
I had um and that that is absolutely a
devastating thought for me you know
censorship is really strong right this
is what these the Twitter files revealed
right
um but the other thing that they
revealed is how you can kind of craft
the illusion of
consensus right when social media media
government all these different entities
ostensibly independent actually are all
United around the same talking points
you know the little box on in stagram
that says you know for the facts of Co
you know go here that really started
hurting me cuz I would kind of start
trying to speak out and I would post
funny things from like Russell Brandt
because I he's really funny with this
whole thing um I'd get the box you know
for the real truth go here and then I
post it again I said you know it just
kept them going and it was just the
censorship was just unbelievable but you
know they've had a funny way of just
kind of making it one narrative and
everyone just falling through so I think
that is why it's so hard for people to
wrap their head around because social
media is a big muscle it's a big way of
like mind control and thank God for Elon
Musk you know thank God for him you know
unveiling all of the things that were
hidden all the censorships and all the
things that I needed to I needed to read
I needed to see those these protocols
that these doctors were giving to people
that had adverse reaction with MS
symptoms you know there was all these
protocols and things I just didn't have
access to so it just became a very
isolating world where I was like okay I
guess I'm just dying this is in my head
and I just got to suck it up and take
Gaba pen because that's you know what
they give
you you know and it that was the thing
when I went to the hospital they they
gave me so much medicine and I'm in
recovery
so
um it's a hard thing you know and a lot
of
the medications that they gave me that
didn't help were the most mind altering
drugs that I think need to have blackbox
labels on and I also think that the
madna vaccine should also have a black
box are you able to dance now even you
know uh my friend um actually introduced
me to this um documentary called get to
the root okay it's about uh root canals
and um how infections could cause like
autoimmune problems and all of these
things and uh because there'll be like
infections underneath the old um like uh
root canal um dentist like the the post
and the tooth and whatnot um that like
regular x-ray couldn't pick up you'd
have to get a CAT scan so um I got
myself to the best biodentist and I had
some I had a tooth removed and um about
6 days later after having it removed I
felt like completely normal um and I had
all my energy back my put thoughts
together it was incredible and that's
when I started dancing ballet again and
it was a good two months um where I had
an amazing time I had my ballet teacher
come to the house and I was strength
training that way and it was such a
spiritual um experience for me um
especially as an adult doing ball cuz
when I was younger I was like GH as an
adult it was just so wonderful and it
just felt like I was connecting to you
know my archangels and I would you know
um and then uh unfortunately the
neuropathy the burning through my rib
cage uh came back um worse than ever and
um yeah I had to stop doing
bellet what is what is your root canal
abscess have to do with your vaccine
injury I'm not super clear on this so
from my
experience it just feels like my body is
in full Attack Mode like my immune
system just fights everything
so um you know when I stumbled across
that documentary get to the root in that
documentary they talk about that some
infections could be hidden in like old
work like a root canal or fillings or
whatnot that are not picked up by um
just a 2d x-ray they need a CAT scan and
that um that my body could be fight
trying to fight what's going on in my
teeth but can't get to it so leaving my
my body in an autoimmune
response um so I was willing to try
anything I was like just take them all
out you
know um and it and it it worked it
actually worked for about 2 months but
um and then it came back unfortunately I
guess that that wasn't the rote I'm glad
I have the infections out and I'm glad I
I was introduced to biod denistry and
and maybe it will alleviate some
problems for other people it did for me
um but unfortunately other things caused
the neuropathy do you know anyone else
in the industry that is experiencing the
same things as you are similar things I
I know of a lot of people you know a lot
of people a lot of people actually
Bethany Frankle I don't know her
personally but she just was on page six
um talking about that she has an
autoimmune response and she's very angry
um so I hope I can reach out to her and
you know bring her to react 19 so she
can get the help she needs but you know
it's very scary because that was one of
the reasons I wanted to speak out cu a
lot of these people are a lot bigger
than me or you know I don't even
consider myself a celebrity um but it's
like I was kind of angered by the fact
that they're not speaking out like why
aren't you why aren't they speaking out
you know
it's they want to work they have
endorsement deals they have you know
like well I don't have an endorsement
deal so I guess I should just go and
speak you know um because uh it's time
to heal that's it what kind of numbers
are we talking about here that you're
aware of I mean I know about 10 people
which is a lot but like personally but
um in the industry I think they're just
kind of uh categorized in some weird
neurological
disorder it just happens to be happening
at much higher frequency than ever
before or I think that I think that
finally people are coming out of the
gasl light right and they're they're
seeing truth and thinking for themselves
and real realizing that oh my God this
is a possibility and yeah a lot of
people in the
industry and obviously I gave them my my
word I would never say anything but I
hope that this interview will inspire
them to come out um because it could
really change lives and even save lives
um I know it's
scary but um it it's a lot more than
people think um cuz a lot of people
don't talk about it at all it's kind of
that taboo thing to to even speak upon
you know especially in Hollywood um and
a lot of people in the industry who
don't believe me they kind of mess with
me in a sense well I just got my booster
I just this and I'm fine you know um
which I think is so dangerous
because a lot of my very very close
friends aunts father
um just recently
died uh
um it's a
god it makes me so sick and
sad and
um I know that everyone's body is their
body um and everyone has the choice but
I would recommend maybe halting the VX
just to kind of reconfigure because I
mean one death is enough one one child
on the football
field is enough
you know they I just read that FDA
pulled a an eye drop because it killed
one person just one person it was pulled
off you know and I'm why why is it
different with
this why is it so different with this
all these young beautiful beautiful kids
and athletes and and in in superb Health
why isn't it completely pulled off the
shelf
immediately um
it's so confusing to me and I I just
think that maybe they needed to tell us
the truth of what what this really
is I've had to stop a lot of mainstream
media especially like KTLA um it was the
issue about the
military and um that they want to stop
the mandated vaccines for our military
and I was like oh thank God and then the
reporter then says can you believe they
think it's still not safe or effective
like
as I'm feeling the you know small fiber
neuropathy throughout my whole body and
I just looked at my husband I was like
shut it off can't watch the show anymore
like because that that hit me really
hard because I um I'm a big supporter of
the troops I performed in Afghanistan um
in Jordan um at the bases there uh my
heart they have my heart so um if anyone
any of our our soldiers are that are are
going that would go through this that
would be that are protecting our country
I think it's vital that they do not get
the VAC I think it is so imperative that
we protect our military that are
protecting our country you know keeping
the the freedom alive so what has been
the impact
of this injury on your family's
life thank you for asking
that you
know it's been really hard for my
husband um because he doesn't want to
see me suffer and he he watches he's
watched this whole journey he's been my
Champion he's the one
that kind of like steered me into
knowing exactly what it is um and it's a
lot and it's a lot for the families that
have to deal with with having family
members that are suffering like this
um but I I want to speak out on that and
say how important and vital they are and
um
and how grateful I am to my husband
because it is not easy and you know he
told me the other day you know cuz he's
been staying strong strong and like how
you doing how you doing and finally he
you know and tears the other day he's
like you know I just I want to take this
away from you Babe I just like don't
want to see you suffering I said honey
I'm just glad it was me and not you or
our son I was like I don't want to
inflict this on anyone that I love I'm
glad that it's me not you and I know
that's hard for him
but
um I know I'm going to get through this
and and I and to the the my fellow
injured I will say this with confidence
we will
heal I pray for us every single day we
will heal there's two things that that
come to my mind when I when I hear you
speaking on the one hand you know I
think there's Pro there might be people
who have been injured that are watching
this and I think that they may get some
inspiration right there's also kind of
inner strength that you need to find to
deal with being as you call it gaset so
I guess what I want to ask you is what
would what would you say to people that
are that are in this sort of
situation I just want to say um first of
all your voice
matters you know um you are worthy of
your
feelings um I think it's it's an
opportunity to really meet who you truly
are inside you know um I know there's a
lot of people that have taken their life
over
this um and I understand that um that's
not an option for me I'm a mom so you
know I think I was just always in fear
of that this was just going to kill me
you know um things have gotten better
but
um a week that's good or whatever right
now I'm I'm in pretty bad pain but what
I would say to them is you know stay
strong um I would say go to react 19
join the community there's all these
beautiful protocols that they're finding
all these new tests all these things
that will help us heal and you will be
heard and you will be seen and you will
be loved and accepted they've just been
so phenomenal um all the VAC inured
doctors that are working with react 19
have taken me under their wing and are
helping me get into the neurologist
getting because it's very difficult
doctors are very very busy right now so
I mean appointments take about 6 months
to get into um but you know they're
getting me into doctors that are not
even seeing new clients and and they're
getting me in to get me well they
actually care they hear me um Bri
dressen um she's my hero she has been
truly a beacon of light for me and for
so many other people that I know and I'm
just so grateful for warrior like her
kind of paved the way for us to make us
feel seen and heard and loved um she
takes time out of the day when I'm just
not feeling good and and she explains to
me what's going on because no doctors
really explained to me anything the
whole
Community uh is is really has been a god
a godsend because you we can speak to
each other with such a knowingness and
there's no biased um confusion or any of
that you're it's like my voice matters
and it hasn't mattered for so long and
it's been stifled for so long and I've
had so much shame with this like oh my
God why is this happening to me but
maybe it happened to me for a reason and
um if I can just give any inspiration
and hope to your viewers um that would
mean the world to
me that's
beautiful thank you well Jessica s it's
such a pleasure to have you on the show
thank you on thank you so much and I
just want to commend you for um Epoch
and your show uh for True journalism we
we need this in our world so badly and I
just I'm so grateful for all of you and
um and this is coming from all the truth
seekers in the world we love you
guys thank you you're
welcome thank you all for joining
Jessica seta and me on this episode of
American thought leaders I'm your host
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