Do We Joke On White People Too Much?

how many white jokes are allowed in 2024 a debate rages on after this year's Golden Globes here are the two clips in question from the Golden Globes let's run them good evening everyone Issa and I recently had the privilege of playing Barbie and Ken in the Barbie movie which is pretty impactful for people who look like us yeah we may not have been what first popped up in people's minds when they thought of Barbie or Ken but that's changed and we're hoping to continue to push the boundaries of the roles we can play by that of course we mean white people roles oh my God I'd love to play white people roles no me too white people roles are the best I mean I uh alcoholic divorc single father fighting for custody oh yeah um an alcoholic housewife whose husband's Affair drives her deeper into alcohol how about this an alcoholic school teacher who must put their love of alcohol aside to inspire their class of inner C the youth white people roll oh yeah killers of the flower moon is so great killers of the flower Moon the cat is here the one thing I learned about that movie is that white people stole everything you guys stole everything not like 97% you guys stole 100% of everything you took the land you took the oil you took the premise of the movie what that was your premise that's hilarious I don't care it's just that the room is really white all right so you guys saw him one from Joe Koy um he basically says white people stole everything yeah he keeps saying it though he says not 97% he doubles down on he goes 100% I think it was a tone thing this actually went viral in Oklahoma cuz some people didn't like the way what he said it then the other joke I actually don't think it's actually as crazy the one that uh simu and Isa re said but maybe tonally the way it came across I think maybe maybe dragged out the joke a little bit but that's on the writing side of the people who were writing those jokes but anyways guys we're going to talk about because I think there was a question at this point in time when white people jokes are abundant like a lot of people are making white people jokes I like white people jokes I like making jokes about everybody but I've definitely made white people jokes but I guess how is is there a point where it's too much white people jokes we're going to ask a question we're going to break it down please hit that like button check out other episodes of the hop hop boys but you know what man if you're white non-white anything you just like spicy flavored dust from half Sichuan half Sicilian check out SMA at sauce.com make sure you shake it when it's upside down though yeah yeah yeah I'll say this man uh Andrew some people on Twitter and like we said it's not that all white people are mad at these jokes right but there was a contingent on the internet that that was like keep pushing our buttons I'm sick of every oh guess we can't make fun of other minorities but other minorities can just keep poking at us but is it that actually not only white people are cringing at this but some other minorities are cringing at this because not all minorities even Loved These jokes either you know what I mean I agree with that so so anyways I guess David what is your overall like uh quick thought before we get into the uh comment section listen there's always these cultural tides and moments and time and openings and windows right now is a window where you can make bad white people jokes like it's acceptable to make bad jokes about white people I think good jokes about white people are always acceptable because theoretically white people won The Hunger Games of the past 400 years it's always like punching up if you're in the western Society right and if it's a good well-crafted joke it's a good joke but we're in a moment right now where even a very clunky joke about white people still works but maybe we should lean back into the nuance and still making it a good joke okay I mean does that make sense like yeah yeah but okay on the other side some people are going to say Well they're they're so far ahead and like we should just still be able to make fun of white people cuz 95% of that Golden Globes room is rich white people that are right right um but yeah I guess it seems like the window for cheap shots at white people are still open now I is it closing though and do we feel even as minority you know I've made my fair share of white jokes for sure I still make I mean I'll still make white jokes as I want to make jokes about everybody but I do understand that there is a a tactfulness you know I mean the joke craft right yeah the joke craft and and how you deliver it is Big also the context who you're speaking to like when Chris Rock hosted the Oscar s years ago and it was coming up after Oscars so white so there was this whole controversy Chris Rock made some pretty militant jokes he talked about like he's like you know like I'll play the clip like he made some pretty hard-hitting jokes but here's the thing about Chris Rock he's known for those hard-hitting race jokes he's a he's a 10 out of 10 in that sector he he is a master at delivering those and he's been doing it for decades now here's the thing Joe Koy that's not necessarily his Forte he makes a lot of like Asian Filipino jokes not only that he himself is half white yeah so it's kind of weird he should have I felt like that could have been an extra good joke when he's like white people stole everything my dad's white yeah half of me half of my bloodline stole the you know everything or something like that that could have been a funny joke to tie in people would have got to know him I feel like it's this I feel like it's kind of like people who where it's not their Forte they don't have those same muscles that Chris Rock is having and they want to appease this like new audience of like gen Z crowd and then it's like not being executed right so it's making me cringe I'm not mad about it in the same way the white guy's mad about it like quit talking about us but like I'm just like hey guys can we just be smoother about this yeah do it cooler and here's my thing I think that if you are an actor or you're in Hollywood and you're like functionally prowhite in your life because those are pro those are still white systems you have to report to a lot of white people maybe your agent's white your check is being written by right your checks are being written by white people or whatever you know people who that you want to make fun of but then you go on stage and you just make fun of them and it's like well are you really proud in your own life and I think it varies for different actors I think some of the actors are very proud some of the actors are not as proud and just use it as as an opportunity to take a jab but what about being more Pro yourself versus anti-white I think there's a way to do that you know what I mean right because you're still centering white people when you're making jokes about their white like why why didn't like I saw a Filipino guy who was mad that uh Joe Koy didn't say Mahal at the end of the you know what I mean like just speak some toala just be revolutionary he could thrown it in yeah I think the truth is a lot of the Asians in Hollywood they're not the most militant or even like close to the first generation immigrant struggle people you know what I mean so that that's the reality of it but they need to use it in a way because like that's what makes them different too than the white people I but I I think so many people out there do have a lot of pro Asian material a lot of like the Asian celebs The Comedians whether it be Ali Wong goes up and does this they all have so much content I feel like there was a missed opportunity they could have made some more jokes some tactful jokes yeah at that time when I think when the Access Hollywood guy was like Hey you know they got Sushi here and then Ally kind of pulls out like oh what why are you saying that to me and he's like no no no I mean I'm serious no no Bo's catering she could have been like yeah yeah yeah we're taking over we took over the Oscars we're taking over the Golden Globes yeah but that would have been so un Asian say that too that would have been more like anyways let's get into the comments section then you guys let us know in your comments down below somebody said the left wing is sick man I'm so sick of this diversity man I just want to see uh people fight that's why I watch The W shows I want to see Will Smith slap Chris Rock um do you think the ratings were up because joeoy brought in an outside audience or because people are just like dude crazy things happens at these Awards nowadays I have no idea but I would I would assume that the audience viewing from on TV is only getting less and less white because there's less and less white people in the world so if the audience of viewing on the TV watching Golden Globes on TV is more mixed and ethnic but the people sitting in the room at the actual Golden Globes are more white and Rich you mean Rich Elite whites then you I guess there's just going to be this balance of you got to make jokes for the TV audience or you make jokes for the inperson audience so you saiding there's going to be some more middle of the road like less Elite roasting of white people as the so the Golden Globes is like yes we'll get all the rich white people we give them Awards because they still make the best movies for the most part but then the minorities they'll turn in but will periodically roast the rich white people in the room and make them feel uncomfortable and it'll be a WWE like spectacle yeah I don't know um somebody said judging by race is stupid to begin with this is my opinion as an Asian somebody was like man I wish they would just leave race completely out of it I I think that there are some portion of Asians that see that too I'm kind of like more like I'm for the racial jokes but I'm more for propping like putting Asians on and then just being more tactful and more sophisticated about it um somebody said that white people are so insecure they're used to dominating the world for so long that that's why anytime people roast them they get sensitive about it I do think that that's a portion of the Twitter crowd you know what I mean but that's not everybody I think no I don't know if any white person love those jokes unless they probably have like blue hair or something like that but like they just could have been better jokes it's hard it's hard to go off Twitter too because Twitter's just a storm like it's like a lot of people didn't even watch the Golden Globes probably yeah Twitter is a lot of people twisting any sort of major viral event to fit their agenda their their wild Fringe agenda I didn't like these jokes did you watch it no hak says the ironic part is everybody makes jokes about how much they wait hate white people while they move into a city or a neighborhood that is all white and they date a white person dude it's true and that's that's not the only thing that matters by the way but that is that is you're going to be judged on that part dude it's true for a lot of minority celebs and a lot of the Asian celebs fall into this you're going to be judged on that P par hey hey be in a movie that wins an award that had a lot of white jokes your whole life just super white anyway um like that I just think we got to be more Pro Asian I get it because it's like when you make the white jokes you're still centering them and you're dedicating all your brain power I'm not saying don't show that you haven't thought about the nominees because their experience and their skill sets are valid but don't like what are we doing you know what I mean like are we just fitting into cheap shots of the moment are and are cheap shots just cheap shots regardless of whether it's punching up or punching down um I guess they'll accept them if it's punching up but it's not great work you know so I think my thing is like you know what white jokes and Asian jokes and black jokes are allowed in 2024 they got to be crafted carefully but yes a cheap shot at white people will be more acceptable than the other ones and we understand why I'm not saying it will always be like that but I and and I guess there will just be always like this constant Gran of some white people who are like yo man are the are they done with the white jokes are we done I get it I'm tapping my foot all right man like it's when you talking about white people it's not me type of white people it's them white people would like to see more jokes like that maybe maybe white people coming up and being like hey hey hey make all the white jokes you want but just so you know you're not making fun of me you're making fun of them hey for everybody watching from the Appalachians we're talking about the whites in the room that run the Illuminati not you guys in rural Mississippi over and out I I would have liked to see Joe Koy mention something like we genas Khan the Oscars and the Golden Globes that would been deep cut everybody historical tribal non-tribal David dcoy you should let us write for you next year if you ever do it if you need some you know people who are really close to the Immigrant experience but still understand the ASN World let us know uh let us know what you guys think in the comments section below I think there's a lot of valid perspectives man I just think we just go to we Asians is new to be in allowed to be in militant so we just got to get past the Sammy Davis Jr part anyway guys let us know until next time we The Hop po boys we out peace