The Failures of "Harm Reduction" on Drugs, and "Housing First" on Homelessness, with Jason Rantz

Megyn Kelly
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Let's talk about the drug problem a bit,
because you write about Oregon,
not far from where you're living,
and how they tried drug decriminalization.
This is all the rage in the progressive communities.
Like, let's just make it all legal.
Heroin, whatever you want, it's fine,
and we're actually gonna help you.
We're gonna help you do it safer.
That's what they want, like a more safe alternative
for people who are addicted to drugs.
So how did that work out?
Oh, it didn't.
And they're still doing it, of course.
So this is one of those terms, again,
that I think sounds great on paper,
and it's called harm reduction.
Now, if I went outside and I asked just 10 random people
if they ever heard of the term, could define the term,
10 out of 10 would tell me no.
They would have no idea.
And yet, this is the policy that is in place,
not just in Oregon, but all across the country.
It's been adopted by the Biden administration as well.
It's a form of drug treatment, they claim,
in which they make it safer to consume an illicit substance.
And their argument is, if we can keep the addict alive
long enough to get treatment, he or she will finally do so.
So let's give them a clean needle
so they're not spreading blood-borne disease.
We'll give them a crack pipe or a booty-bumping kit,
which I get to in the book.
I love saying that in front of 3 million Americans
on Twitter. It is dark.
I did not know about this thing.
I know. It is dark.
It's exactly what it sounds like, and it's internal.
Let's just talk about, let's just say that.
Don't Google any photos or videos of that.
But they're saying, let's give away these tools,
and then eventually we'll be able to treat these people.
On paper, that sounds great.
In reality, they don't do any treatment.
They don't put money into treatment or detox at all.
There's never any pressure to push people
into treatment or detox because they believe
that any kind of judgment is stigmatizing against the user,
and so they don't want to do anything.
As a result of that, we have seen record high numbers
of dead addicts all across the country.
We've seen, just today, there was a report came out
that I believe it was 31 states saw an increase
in fentanyl overdoses year over year,
and keep in mind, the last two and three years,
we've seen record highs.
Oregon is going in the complete wrong direction.
This was passed by voters, Measure 110.
I get through some of the data in the book,
but essentially, you're given the opportunity
as someone who ends up getting ticketed
for an illicit substance abuse.
You can avoid paying the ticket
so long as you call this number on the back of it
to get some sort of treatment.
Well, guess what?
They didn't show up to court
and they didn't call up the number,
and it's been a total failure.
Washington State did virtually the same thing.
It went about it a little bit different way.
They finally just walked it back
because in Seattle and King County,
we've seen an historic rise of overdoses.
A lot of it is driven by fentanyl.
Some of it also is meth.
To give you a sense of how bad it is
in the Pacific Northwest, there was a study
by the University of Washington
that came out about three or so weeks ago,
and they tested the surfaces and the air
of our metro systems, our transit.
100% of the air had meth in it.
Oh my God. Had meth smoke detected.
98% on surfaces.
It was a little bit less on fentanyl.
I think that's a little bit having to do
with the way that fentanyl is consumed.
But 100%, I mean, just think about that for a second.
100%, and by the way, they have the gall to tell us,
oh, it's totally safe to continue to take transit.
Don't worry, stop complaining.
But the fact of the matter is,
that obviously indicates a problem with drug abuse.
And you can track the data so clearly,
because back in 2018, our prosecutor in King County,
which is where Seattle is located at the time,
said, we're no longer going to charge
for personal possession.
We're no longer going to consider
that a criminal justice issue.
Well, guess what happened?
Number one, the drug dealers stopped carrying
as much product on them.
They were carrying personal possession amounts.
So in case they were stopped by a cop,
they can get out of it.
Number two, the cops no longer had any leverage
over an addict to turn on the drug dealer,
because before they could say,
look, I'm going to throw you in jail.
You're going to detox over the weekend in jail
unless you give me information on your drug dealer.
Well, they no longer had to do that.
And all of a sudden, you've got open-air drug use
all over the place,
and people are dying in record numbers.
Every single year since 2018,
we've seen a historic high overdose rate,
every single year.
When you look at Philadelphia, same thing.
You read about this in the book.
In Oregon, after this, fatal overdoses,
you just alluded to it, surged 76% from 2011 to 21
with fentanyl driving the numbers.
Just between 2020 and 2021,
fentanyl-related fatal overdoses rose 83%.
I mean, that is shocking.
What an F, a total failure.
Just to remind our audience,
my guest is Jason Rantz, R-A-N-T-Z,
and the book is,
What's Killing America Inside the Radical Left's
Tragic Destruction of Our Cities.
And you lay it all out.
The other thing you get into,
and we touched on it,
but like the homelessness problem,
how they think the solution is housing.
Let's just get housing, and everything will be better.
Yeah, it turns out that that's actually not how it works
because they were not born homeless.
They had a home at one point,
and then they ended up on the streets.
And it's very similar in the way
that harm reduction is being used.
There's another policy out there,
a strategy called Housing First.
And again, I can ask anyone what it is,
no one would be able to define it.
And yet, that is why we have a crisis
of homelessness in this country.
Housing First says we're going to put people
without any conditions into subsidized housing.
And usually they're waiting for either,
now they do homeless hotels,
but also just your standard studio apartment.
And that's been one of the reasons
why we don't see a lot of sweeps in Democrat-run cities.
They don't want to sweep these homeless encampments,
all these tents, until you have a home for them,
because apparently it lacks compassion
to let people live surrounded by human waste
and use needles and trash.
And so you would at least on paper say,
okay, maybe that does work.
And we often hear people say Salt Lake City did this,
and they got to functional zero homeless population.
Well, that's not true.
And I did the research.
I ended up committing an entire chapter
just to Salt Lake and the Housing First myth,
because it was a total failure.
They did not look at the right numbers.
They, I think, intentionally misled the public
as to the impact of their policy.
And it's gotten worse, homelessness, ever since.
But the biggest issue with Housing First
is there's never any kind of mandate
that the individual get treatment for whatever it is
was the underlying cause of their homelessness.
So let's say it was drug addiction,
which is leading a lot of it.
Well, you can just continue to use drugs
while in the subsidized housing.
That doesn't help them.
It doesn't help them at all.
And of course, they're not just staying in their home.
They're still going out into the community.
They're still committing crimes
in order to pay for their drug of choice.
But the only people who end up benefiting
are the ones who run these programs,
the homeless industrial complex.
And it sounds kind of like conspiratorial
when I put things in that phrasing,
but these are people who get paid to care for the homeless
who never go on their own,
who never get onto their own path.
And so they're incentivized.
Whether or not they're doing this intentionally,
I don't generally think that,
but it's gotta be a subconscious bias there.
The longer they're in subsidized housing,
the longer these people are employed,
the more money they get.
And despite showing very few success stories,
they keep getting larger budgets
because behind the scenes,
they're cozying up to politicians
at the local or state level,
and they're just getting more funds
funneled into their programs.
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