Megyn Kelly Announces "Huge" Interview With Former President Donald Trump - Ric Grenell Reacts

I want to start today with a big announcement. Huge, huge, you might say. Here at the Megyn Kelly Show, we've welcomed many of the 2024 contenders. Vivek Ramaswamy has been on a bunch of times, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Chris Christie. You may remember my lengthy sit down just last month or late July with Governor Ron DeSantis. Even RFKJ has been here since his announcement as well as before. But next week, I'll be interviewing former President Donald Trump. It will be my first interview with the former president in seven years. And there is so much to get to. I'm really looking forward to this. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be spicy and it's gonna be tough, but it's gonna be good. And hopefully we're both gonna enjoy it. I think you're all gonna enjoy it a lot too. We're gonna have a lot of time to get into a variety of topics in person, sitting down with him in person. And then we will air it in full on SiriusXM Thursday, September 14th. Okay, mark your calendars if you wanna listen to it live, Thursday at noon, September 14th. It will of course then also become available a little later in the day on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook and all podcast platforms, including Apple and Spotify, Pandora, Stitcher, et cetera. I'm really looking forward to bringing you this one and many more to come. I'm very glad that he agreed to do it. He's not saying yes to everyone. And to his credit, Donald Trump knows that I'm not somebody who suffers from Trump derangement syndrome, like the vast majority of people in the media, but I'm also not a sycophant. So I'm not gonna go in there and be a bootlicker. It's gonna be fun and he can handle it perfectly well. So looking forward to it. Hope you are too. Mark your calendar. And now Rick Grinnell, who was a key part of Donald Trump's administration. He joins me live. Rick, great to see you. So I'm excited for this. I think this is gonna go great. What do you think? Wow, September 14th, I just wrote it down. I think it will be fantastic. So many people are gonna be thinking about the last time you interviewed him. I had a flashback while you were talking about being in your studio in Fox when we both worked at Fox. And that was during the presidential. And we had so many times where we talked about different issues with Trump. And I think it's true. I think you were tough. And I think the way that you just said it is that you're not a never Trumper and you're not a sycophant. And that's, I think, great. And credit to Donald Trump. He's been doing interviews where he mixes it up and isn't afraid to get in there. He went on CNN for God's sake. I mean, he's definitely not afraid to mix it up. With Caitlyn, the whole town hall, like, come on. I'll tell you, it's been nuts because I saw Trump at the Charlie Kirk turning point event in July. And we hit it off. We had a nice sort of glad-handing moment. And I talked about it on the show. So it was great to see him. And I talked about his, I mean, there's no question he has a natural magnetism. Whether you love him or hate him, that is indisputable. I'm sorry, it's just a fact. He walks into the room, even before he was president, but especially post. And there's an air that must be paid attention to. He's just, that's just who he is. It's a lifetime of celebrity and now becoming really the most famous man in the world. So I talked about it on the show and said, I'm very glad that all that nonsense between us is water under the bridge. And we're just in a normal journalist covering, you know, president or former president situation. The left freaked out at those comments. Entire podcasts were devoted to those comments, Rick. Like, oh my God, what's happened to Megyn Kelly? She's bent the knee. They need me to hate him for some reason. They need as many sort of foils to Donald Trump as they can get. And if they think you're one and you turn out not to be, they become apoplectic. It's just like a robotic chip has malfunctioned. Look, I think they're apoplectic about everything you do. They're always watching, you know, your time at Fox or time at NBC. They're just, you know, I always, I was going to say something that I would regret actually, so I'm not going to say it. Let me just say it this way. You, you're smart. You know, I know you from a time personally when I worked at Fox and I know your heart and how kind you are. But that's not always what comes through in the media. They like to have a one-dimensional Megyn Kelly. They also like to have a one-dimensional Donald Trump. I've worked for some big name politicians, Mitt Romney, John Bolton, people who are never Trumpers now. And I know the dimensions of all of these people. I try as somebody who was on the inside with people to not trash former bosses. Even if I disagree with them, I try to, you know, be more positive about it. And that means giving them more than a one-dimensional look, right? The people who really know people try to give you stories and make it more than just black and white. But I always think with you, with Trump, there's a lot of people that they just try to make one-dimensional. And I think it's really disingenuous. I will say this though. I think social media has really busted that ability of the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN to be able to define somebody just with one dimension. Now you've got this long podcast. You've got the ability to have a whole bunch of conversations and to show who you are besides just a one dimension. Not everybody is that lucky to be able to have that long conversation. But I think people who have been in the media realize that it's really disingenuous what the media tries to do. And I put Trump in both that category. For sure with Trump, I mean, it's insane. I'll say this, somebody I really like down at the Jersey Shore, a woman I don't know well, but I see her in the store every year. And I love this woman. She's a Democrat. She came over to me and she was upset after I said that thing on my show about having seen Trump and it went so well and I was glad to see him. She was upset. She said, I don't understand. You know, after the way he came after you, what happened with your family, like I don't understand how you can be okay with him. And I said to her, in my business, if you hold against people, especially politicians who don't, who justifiably don't like the media, that's my role. If you hold that against all those people, you're not gonna have any connections, any sources, or anyone with whom you have a decent relationship. You know, you can't be fighting all the time over big slights or small slights. And I think, if I may, it's to my credit that I'm able to put that shit behind me and move right on. Like that's a life coping skill that more people should have, but especially journalists, who too often can't stop making it about themselves. Well, here's my problem. And I'll put you in the journalist category for this. You know, you all build a career out of criticizing people. And then the first time you get criticized, they freak out. And that's my problem, is that don't put yourself into the public sphere of criticizing everybody else if you can't take it yourself, including myself, people who run for office, people who get politically appointed to office, people who are leading the public, journalists who are on TV. I mean, gone is the day that journalists just get to sit behind a desk and their name is on a little print report and nobody knows who they are. Now they all want Newsmax contracts or MSNBC contracts or Fox contracts. And so if you're gonna put yourself out there and you're gonna be somebody who publicly criticizes people, you better be able to take it. And I love to see reporters who write criticism and then when you criticize them on Twitter, they block you. Just like, I can't take one little criticism. After I just wrote a whole- I don't think I've ever blocked anybody on Twitter. I don't think, unless Abigail Finan got on there and did it. I do not block people. They may annoy me, but I'm fine hearing dissenting points of view. Now, if you're like sexistly trolling me, that kind of crap, you'll get muted. You'll get muted. I would never give somebody the satisfaction of blocking them. Why would I? It was Ray Kelly, former police chief in New York, whose son, Greg Kelly, is a friend of mine, probably yours too, over at Newsmax. And Ray always said, why would you do somebody the courtesy of telling them what you really think about them? Someone you really don't like. Why would you do them the courtesy of showing that they have this power over you? I love that advice. Junk science. 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