Why Did These Girls Say This About Asian Men?

What is so triggering about this podcast clip? Let's break it down. Yeah, we got to talk about this viral clip from the whatever podcast it's titled. These Asian girls do not like Asian men. Let's run the clip. What's one race you laddies wouldn't date? Asian. Huh? Oh. Wait, but aren't you like half Asian though? Yeah. But like why? What? I've never found an Asian guy attractive. It's just preference. Me too. I just never have. Like I'm not like opposed to it. What? It's just like it's like it just came up in my head. Like, oh, like it's kind of weird that I've like never been attracted to an Asian guy. Like me personally. But I would date. I used to not find Asians attractive. But like now I do. I think it's more so like they can relate to me more with like culture and everything like that. So like me personally, I really like I like dating Asian guys. Stop it. Type now. Get some help. Andrew, are you surprised that there's 3,000 comments and growing from non-Asian guys as well as Asian guys chiming in? And some of these comments that people are leaving are like a page long. Yeah, I don't know. I think this really hit a hit a chord with a lot of Asian guys because it's very nostalgic in a bad way. So I do think that the crowd that is sending this around because I got we got sent this video before but it was by like maybe older like 30 and up guys who had experienced this growing up and are still kind of like man is still pains me to see this. Even the young girls do it. I don't know how many Gen Z guys are mad about this. Maybe they saw it. Maybe they're not mad. Whatever. How about this for the older millennial guys Andrew? It's a negative retro but for the Gen Z guys, it's almost like a peek into the past because you know nowadays there's so many like Asian bodybuilders. There's so many like there's so much more Asian representation people are talking about how k-pop is blowing up and there's like sex tourism from like non-Asian women going to Seoul Korea to you know what I mean? Like there's a lot of dynamics that have flipped or seemingly flipped in a media sense. This is almost like rewinding the clock the clock back to 20 years ago. Yeah, but I think these women who said this are fairly young. I would say they're probably under the age of 23. I'm does it go to show you that as much as some pie slices of society change some of the other pie slices maybe bigger ones that people are not paying as much to because they don't change as much stay the same. Yeah. Well guys, we're going to break down this clip. We were going to break down what a lot of people are saying and we know we'll give you our own takeaways and maybe a little bit of advice too. So please hit that like button right now and check out other episodes of the hot pop boys hit that like button Andrew. Let's break it down like ESPN detailed, you know, Kobe Bryant's, you know, his offensive possessions. What's happening here? Like just play by play. I mean listen the probably very attractive hop a girl who's half Asian hint says that she would never date an Asian guy. And she says it kind of like she's proud of she's quick with it. She's not an Asian. I would never date that and then you know, but I'm also not surprised. I think I'm more disappointed that some full non-Asian girls say this then the half ones because oftentimes they have white fathers. So it's like, you know, the man in their life is why anyways guys different dynamics and then the one girl called the V girls calls her out. Oh, aren't you half Asian? He goes. Oh, yeah, I don't care and then the Thai girl says, oh, yeah for the first time in my life. I can't believe I just thought about how I have never dated an Asian guy. Yeah, in fact, and she essentially says I've never thought about Asian guys until now, right? So she sounds like be moderately against Asian men, but in a nice way, but it's also dismissive trying to say like I just omitted them from my life. I didn't negative negatively turn them down and we're going to get into the reasons why I think she did that. And then of course Andrew there's this weird kind of like hot but like Asperger's white girl in the corner who basically in my opinion. Implies that she would rather date an Asian woman than date an Asian man. Obviously, there may be some orientation aspects that come right and then the full via girls repping. She says no I date Asian guys now, but for cultural reasons and then Rhino from live love serve. You might have seen some of his videos. He kind of like he's kind of sitting there listening. I'm sure he's heard this dynamic before and he just says Matt of rural matter of fact. Yeah. Well, it's because Asian guys have like more feminine features like the females except it plays worse for men. Anyways, we understand that dynamic. We talked about on the channel Brian the host of the whatever podcast comes in tries to defend Asian guys even throws in. Hey, you know if I swung that way, I don't know. I think I'd go for Asian guys to thanks Brian and ally real quick. And we got to just address the macro here. When you get a microphone you get about a get a bunch of hot young girls. You ask them a hot take question and they just give you a incredibly real but I guess to the internet and to the thinking person stupid answer, right? Yeah, man. I don't know for a lot of the guys on the internet. I'm not sure why they watch these like male-centric podcast that only have a panel of like did see kind of dumb hot girls. Like I know that that's what gets clicks, but honestly, they don't ever really give you that much vital information. I feel like you got to have like more women that the guys on the internet are actually going to date like on the panel. Anyways, some real personal points that we want to make before we get into the comment section David. I have seen with my own eyes Asian women say that. Oh, I don't date Asian guys to a group of Asians full of men and women and nobody really called them out. And I just think that it's at that point. I'm not saying you got to like cuss people out and be super emotional. But I do think it's at that point where you can call people out in public for this, right? In 2023 after like, let's just say this been happening for 30 years that the Asian American community can begin to say, hey, why'd you say that? How long are Asian guys going to take the slander? We've been slandered everywhere from light to heavy. There is no Asian guy who has not been slandered a little bit. Yeah, I don't care if you're from the hood or you're from the good which is like a really good neighborhood. You have felt it at some level. I'm not saying some people haven't felt it way more or less. So circles they've inhabited or their own personal stats. What I'm saying is I think people need to figure out a way how they're going to word and voice that out in a civil band. I think that this is a really good point Andrew because I do feel that some Asian guys have almost gotten to the point where they don't like to hear it, but they just accept it because they're around this attitude so much depending on if they're like Asians in Hollywood mainstream spaces, you know, sometimes when you hear stuff like this, especially growing up when you're younger, it's almost like a slow knife getting pushed into your chest and you're just like feeling it and you're like, I'll take it. Yeah. All right, sure. It doesn't hurt. And then you're just like, I remember the first time I heard this was from the like the pretty hot girl group at youth camp because we obviously went to a Chinese church and they had youth camp and I remember they said that out loud, you know what I mean? Like you said, but you're a kid. You don't really know how to handle it, you know, but you know, I would say a lot of like, you know, like you're saying like in sort of these group context, a lot of people, they don't know how to handle it, right? They don't know how to bring it up and be like, hey, why are you being self-hating? Yeah. No, I'm going to just make it a joke. Yeah. Hey, you're why are you self-hating? Hey, you're self-hating. What's up with that? And then at least make them think it's kind of funny. But anyways guys, uh, yeah, we can get into the comment section. I'm sure there's a lot to talk about. There's a multitude of reactions to it. Yeah, this first comment was basically from a guy who said I'm on my I'm like 25 now, but when I was like 15 16 or 17, this used to really hurt me. But now like I've learned to like not really care and like I just don't let these these people who feel this way. These women, even if they're really attractive on the outside, you know, shallow side impact how I feel. Yeah, I think it's important to not let especially random people affect how you feel and control your feelings, especially, you know, honestly, generally like women who say this that are Asian or like, I don't know. I've never dated Asian guy. It's like yo, what's your reasoning? Yeah, you got to have a good reason and usually to be honest, they're bought into like a very white or just a very non-Asian subculture and they feel like that their attachment to the Asian world may hold them back from rising that ladder. Yeah, so they're like trying to cut the ties, you know, and it's almost like Asian guys are like the top, you know, and we're like the climber that's that's a goner for on Mount Everest or whatever and they're just like, yeah. Yeah, you know what it is again? Like probably they're probably age like 22 23 or 21 and it's just funny because you think that we have all this representation, but there's some women who are still part Asian that full Asian cannot imagine dating an Asian guy or I've never met or been exposed to a datable one, which is interesting. Yeah. I mean, I think it goes to show you that some of the dynamics from 20 30 years ago. They could still exist in 2023 as much as the internet has all these pro-Asian movements or pro-Asian male movements enter this some Asian women were firing back in the comments section of the whatever podcast saying I forgot to add I'd like any guy as long as he's not problematic sexist racist and has male entitlement. However, Asian culture checks so many of those boxes. So forgive me. I mean, I think it does apply to some portion of Asian guys, but I feel like not the majority is she almost more is this a sins of a father type situation? I'm not saying for sure but like I generally feel like sometimes girls and I'm not blaming them. They might have a downside experience with like their dad or something like that and then project that on to you know, other second-generation immigrants that listen man. I think that there are reasons and excuses that are better than others. That's right. There's a range right? There's a ranking of excuses, right? This guy said as an Asian man myself who grew up in New Jersey and New York. It's 100% a masculinity issue. A lot of us are perceived as more feminine. But if you increase your height by wearing lifts are muscular going to the gym and in general just be more Alpha you can dispel the stereotypes. I know it worked for me. So basically Andrew he was almost saying it's a masculinity. I mean, this is kind of like the gym bro testosterone thing, right? Yeah. Yeah, but I think like I don't know what the when people say Joe just be more Alpha. It's not just that I mean, I feel like there's so many layers to that. You got to be more outspoken. You also have to have a personality. You have to have passions and interests and you actually have to like build this guy up and then you can kind of be more confident and Alpha. Isn't this kind of also I'm not saying that first of all, this is good advice. It's fair. Yeah, if you go up to a bunch of people have been like eating and I'm not saying this is the 100% great comparison, but they like if you go up to a bunch of people have been having bad diets their entire life and then you just are like yo, here's this salad. Here's this lean protein pop and just like slap it out of their hands. They're just like is that really going to work to you know, because it is if it is cultural. How do you rewind? It's like telling people coaching to quit smoking cold turkey. Yeah, just quit smoking put the cigarette down. What do you mean? What's so easy? Yeah, just put it down just throw it out. Don't throw them in the trash and then you're done. You're done smoking. Yeah online bullying just block that person. Yeah, that's it. This person said actually I think it's a lack of game issue. It's not even a physical thing culturally Asians are coached to be beta passive and being shy is harmful for men in the US dating scene. This was the observations of a non-Asian guys. I think coaching and training is the right word. I don't like the whole thing about like, oh, it's just game. Oh guys need to develop their game guys. It starts way before that you need to be trained and coached properly from a young age. And this is where a lot of Asian guys are missing it because we focus so much on school and academics and our community is unbalanced and maybe there's not a lot of mentorship. Maybe you're the only Asian kid. You don't have anybody who's looking over you. Your dad's not home. Your dad can't mentor you or your mom. Can't whatever it is. They lack training and you got to get that training in for years to fully develop that as part of it's crazy because the stem books they will give you 0% training for this for this particular Lane. This guy blamed it on Confucius, of course saying that Confucianism all Asians have it, but it happens to suck really for the men more than it sucks for the women. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. That's interesting. Yeah, man people just blame it on neoteny and Confucius. I guess there's definitely some blame. This Asian guy said I'm a proud Asian guy who's married to a white woman. I know that for example, a lot of my peers that are also married to white women or non-Asian women are not going to have sellout kids like that. I just feel like a lot of women who marry a white guy are more likely to have that type of kid as an outcome who's like hates one of their sides or thinks one of their sides that makes them up is like the weak side or the uncool side. Yeah, generally obviously like man, if the dad is Asian you would assume that the kid is probably going to be more likely to be proud. I've definitely met proud hapas and children who have an Asian mother and white dad, but I will say generally in a family if a woman especially a immigrant woman or foreign or woman marries into an American family, which culture are they going to buy more into probably the American. Take the fan duel odds guys. I'm betting they're going to buy into the American system and the American standards and everything. This guy said I will never understand why people of different groups are repulsed by people from their same ethnic group. This guy said self-loathing psychologically and naturally a person is most attracted to somebody closest to them. So therefore it's safe to say there is some deep trauma that had to have to occur for someone to go out of the way to exclude someone who looks closest to them and prefer somebody greatly who does not look like them. Yeah, I think the whole attitude of like writing off Asian guys and being disgusted by them is the is the real offensive part, you know, I think the girl who said well, you know come to think about it. I've never really dated Asian guy and I've never really found any attractive that is bad as well, but almost not as bad as just being like, yeah, I just won't date him. I just won't right and then I'm going to tell all my friends to not do it. Yeah, it's like holy crap your anti-Asian do what happened to you? Yeah, I mean, I think we're all subject to our upbringings, right? I mean we are growing up in Western society. Not everybody grows up in an Asian enclave. Not everybody even goes to a high school or middle school. That's like 20% Asian, you know, right? So I guess that all those things would have a huge impact on your brain. What you like what you like to eat how you speak the all these things are environmental and America is a very diverse country, right? Somebody said Asian dudes are actually very good men hardworking intelligent humble and loyal. However, they were usually viewed as good nice guys and that is considered uncool in 2023 unless you are looking for a husband that is also a church leader. Yeah, so I have heard from multiple Asian women that I have gone out with or talked with or met that they said that they do they are attracted to Asian guys, but they literally have never been hit on by Asian guys or it's never really like just happen, you know because a lot of people will kind of date who's around them or who's coming after them and if no guys approach them and are constantly like, you know being suitors for them, then that's almost those are a lot of their options. They're just gonna their options are who's coming for them, right? I guess simplistically if you were to not in a simple manner. So I'm saying in a simple matter almost like your average person making average reads and taking the incoming versus sending out go and I doubted this but I thought about it for a while and I was like, no, it's definitely possible that some girls are actually open to Asian guys, but I've just never been exposed or been approached by it. Yeah, no, it's possible. I think there's a lot of sides to this coin. It's not just a coin eight-sided die and you know what it is. I hate using the word aggressive, but guys Asian guys do need to be more like assertive and I guess aggressive when they go out and meet women, right and probably you know, like there's other people are way more aggressive dude, like how you know, like everybody says like white people hit on every the girls but the girls like never get Asian dude. Yeah, and it is different for every type of Asian guy, right? Like I would say like, you know V. It's 50-50 but Filipino guys tend to hit on women. Yeah, I mean Chinese guys definitely hit on women less. Somebody said this is a small sample size, but I'm pretty sure if there was five girls of their race and three of them only willing to date one of them and they were like black or Latino they would probably flip out and at least point it out to their face. Um, how come it seems like Asian guys are the only guys that would never point out this type of stuff even if it was right in front of their eyes. No, I think Asian dudes got to call it out and I will say this Asian guys have been overall overall across the board generally fairly chill about taking in all the slander that we get. Oh, you're talking about the emasculation. Yeah, I feel like that Asian guys have maybe handled it. Well, maybe too well, and I'll tell you this. I'll be honest about this and I got to keep it real emasculation. I think a lot of people like to use that word, but they don't really know what it means. It means that even though you are a man you're not treated with the respect that a man commands. You're not treated like the stalwart of your community. You're basically treated like a role player on your own squad, right? Which are whereas to me, I'm not saying that I haven't heard because I we have a lot a lot of diverse friend groups, you know what I mean? Like, um, like I've heard black or Latina women voice, you know, some, you know, everybody got pros and cons, right? Everybody's got pros and cons about how they view their significant others or their others in their community, but it's like they would never air it out on a podcast like that because that's so emasculating because they would be like, I can't do that to my uncle. I can't do that to my father. I got like too much respect for OG, you know, yeah, I mean it does it is a family thing. If that family didn't build in that respect then that's kind of their fault too, right? Somebody said as an Asian man take these women, please. I mean, yes and no. I think that that's a great way to handle it. But trust me. They're already taken. Yeah, they're already taken. They've been or I don't want to say they've been taken. They've been they've given themselves away. Somebody said these are the type of women. I always thought I wanted to meet in my 20s. Then I became really successful in my mid 30s and those same girls would hit me up but I was already with a young wife that was much younger hotter and much more traditional than them. Yeah, I don't know if this is fully true. But yes, I understand what you're saying that these definitely are the type of girls. You really want to date when you're like 18 19 20 21 22. You're like all about these girls these like blonde acting Asian girls that are not like hood you a lot of guys like I mean, are these girls not the 2023 version of Mean Girls like that? No, they're essentially less of you know, the kind of like Asian Barbies. And I don't mean the ABG ones. I'm saying these girls are like not ABG, right? And we're not talking about the meta movie. That's like real thoughtful. They just came out Barbie. We're talking about the actual, you know, Malibu bar. Let's go Barbie. Let's go party. This guy said as a black guy, this doesn't really affect me but I feel for my Asian brothers out there. I've always been of the belief that Asian women have white fever far more than white guys have yellow fever. Stay strong boys. Really interesting empathy. I mean Rhino. I wouldn't say he was this empathetic, but he I definitely when he said it she would I remember Rhino in the podcast was like, ah this again. Yeah, you you hear this from black and to a lesser extent Latino guys. So they said that Asian women have white fever more than white guys have yellow fever. It's tough to put on a percentage on it. So I guess I guess that's an interesting idea. Yeah, I think it's on a case-by-case basis. It definitely takes two to tango, but I don't know which it is. Which pie? Andrew, I always say man, usually people can agree on the pie slices on the on the pie chart. No, you mean what but they always disagree over distribution. Um, somebody just said this guy said as an Asian guy, I can tell you that being an Asian guy. I think he was speaking to the non-Asian guys in the comments that being an Asian guy in Western countries is the worst personally. I was open to all ethnicities, but then I realized that white black Middle Eastern all types of women from the Western Hemisphere basically see Asian men as inferior and weak and I was always going to take a huge fractionation or tax on my value. Yeah. Yeah, I would say this I will say this in the mainstream Western Anglo society for any English-speaking countries. There is a tax for sure. I'm being an Asian guy now. How big is that tax could vary person to person in fishbowl to fishbowl. It really depends on what type of person from that community you're meeting because if you're only meeting like Shahs of Sunset Middle Eastern girls, they are not going to be into Asian guys. Like they're not the hot Arab girls. I've rarely seen it but but there are I've also seen guys get with Middle East like, you know what I mean? Right, right, right. Just yeah, if you're talking about the hottest person of each group, it is tough, but you know what it is to man. Not everybody. Like we said Andrew is going to be like a tall good-looking charismatic guy who works as a bartender or a nightlife. You got to think how many more reps that somebody who works in that particular field with, you know, certain particular prerequisite stats. They're almost going to see like maybe at some point 10,000 percent or 10,000 X more reps than a regular guy, right with without those stats too. So it could shift so much guys. We need to have a life is infinitely complex. Somebody said has to do with Eurocentric beauty standards. You know what I mean? Everything from changing the shape of your eyes to the shape of your nose to skin bleaching Etc. Etc. This is just a fact of the Asian world. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean that's an interesting perspective to I think that you know, like we said, it's a whole pie thing. Somebody's just said, you know, it all comes down to exposure now that we get more media exposure just like k-pop that's got its own little wave even though that's not a mainstream wave. It's a growing niche Andrew. How much is it about just representation? I always say man, the most important representation is in real life face-to-face. That is the most important representation in changing. This is that Asian dudes got to meet and talk to people in real life or at least on the apps or something. You know what I mean? Like but you cannot rely on the movies and k-pop the they it does something a hundred percent. It does something but most important is in real life and exposure in real life. And this is the issue. A lot of Asian guys are into STEM fields, right? So you spend a lot of time studying engineering medical and to be honest. Those are primarily male as well. Those are primarily male heavily Asian not very like Blonde female II so you're not going to get a lot in FaceTime talking to blonde girls or not just blonde girls or even different types of girls, you know, just fun girls and just fun people just but they're not fun, you know, they can be great people but they're just not necessarily fun. Don't develop your like social skills on that level Andrew. This was a really interesting comment. This guy was a said as a gay Asian. It's depressing on this side of the spectrum to what is this comment trying to say? Yeah. Well, it's just trying to say that that as a gay Asian guy this person has been attracted to Asian men, but some of those Asian men are just only attracted to white guys. So so some Asian dudes in the in the LGBT world are also self-paced. So they're just pulling the same thing that these pretty girls did on the whatever podcast. Yeah, they would just just in a different world. They would say the same thing. Yeah, like I would never date Asian dude, you know, like that's and then they all and then this guy also pointed out that he has rarely ever been hit on by another Asian only by white dudes in his world. So it's like it also goes back to even in the LGBT world Asian guys are still not hitting on other Asian does this almost serve as a control for the science experiment? Just the fact that it's like mirrored in a different orientation I think like man white dudes. They really get after it man, and it's maybe it's because it's their country. I don't know. They did take over the world for the last 400 years. Anyway, somebody said I'm a white guy and I'm married to an Asian woman. I know lots of other of my friends who did the same because most American women just aren't traditional anymore. They can sure drink like their father, but they sure can't cook like their mother. But these Asian women they still got all the skill sets. That's a funny bar. Yeah, I do think a lot of white women. I don't know. I don't want to stereotype them. Can they not cook nowadays? You let me know in the comments down below. Yeah, but they could they know all the rap lyrics to the rap songs that I don't know either. To the country songs. They be rapping their whole songs at their weddings. I don't like it. I try to be down with it, but I know it don't somebody said as an Asian guy. I know that life isn't fair, but you got to make do with what you got somebody. There was a lot of arguing back and forth. Some guys were like dude, why are you giving up? I mean, I think this guy wasn't like super good-looking or anything like that or tall or anything and then this guy was like saying no man, it's smart. I'm a doctor now and I'll tell you this. This is why Asian men tend to have long-term relationships and successful careers because we have way too many life challenges, especially socially. So we have no choice but to hustle and be consistent. So basically I do think by the way, there are Asian F boys, you know, obviously especially in Gen Z, but still I would say come in comparison probably if you made me guess in comparison to every other group, maybe still the lowest amount of F boys, right? Yeah, maybe percentage wise. Yeah. Anyway, Andrew, let's just get into the takeaways and some suggestions. I mean, I would say to that last comment man. There's so many different ways you can approach like feeling like you're at a disadvantage, right? You can either accept it. You can have a monk like mindset. You can either be set on fire to get in the gym and get super ripped super low body fat to try to you know what I mean to fight it or like I guess what I'm saying is there's a lot of different ways to attack it mentally and emotionally right? Yes. And I hope that any guy who's feeling down is seeking advice on the internet from on YouTube by the dozens and hundreds of channels about male self-improvement. Some that are ran by Asians. Yeah, some that are ran with Asians move to the Enclave, especially nowadays. Everybody's work from home. You can move anywhere you want you can avoid this type of woman, but this type of woman is actually still always going to exist, you know for a while, but I do think the numbers are going down. Thank God. They didn't all want to do podcast like 20 years ago. It was it was worse. Oh man, it would have been crazy. I mean, that's why because then there would have been no like yeah, that's why in a way the women who said it back then were it was even worse because it took so much more work to get on a microphone and get those words published. You got to want to see it. I thought about it a lot because there wasn't a lot of media back. Yeah, but now media people things just fly out of people's mouths. I would say this the first the truth is as much as people see this the whatever podcast is filmed in Santa Barbara Andrew. It's probably very white there. Like you said Santa Barbara Barbie. That's very much that Ken Barbie culture. We just move somewhere. I always tell people this don't go to UCSB. Don't go to University California, Santa Barbara. I always told people that's a mistake bro. You don't fit in with the beach bros and a beach blonde babes like go to UCI go to UCLA, you know, and then you more fun tribe, right? Like I'm saying I'm saying different people are tapped into different things. Like if you see if you meet an Asian girl who's like really into basketball or like a rapper or something like that. She might date like black guys. These girls were clearly tapped into white culture. They're looking for for blonde dudes. Yeah. Also, if you're not one of these Asian guys that you don't feel like, you know, just don't get emotional about this. Like why let what random people say on a podcast dictate how you feel that's like the worst thing you could do, you know, but again man seek improvements and you know, it's a long it's a long road ahead boys. Yeah. I mean, I guess ultimately Andrew, what do you think because this is probably not the last time we're going to see this exact dynamic pop-up, right? Because this is like people, you know, have been sending the street interview clips. Now, it's the whatever podcast who knows what it'll be like three months from now. Yeah, who knows why like even these pot are these podcasts helpful where they gather a bunch of like above average looking women, but like that they like kind of ditzy and then like one clever host and then the women always look stupid. I don't understand why they go on the podcast. I don't get it. But anyways, you guys let me know in the comments down below what you think about sure. 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