A recent online petition on Case2 Petition Called "Disney Not to White Wash Mulan" This is after Sony announced that they are planning to shoot a live action version of the film featuring a "mainly chinese" cast, which drove fans to wonder what exactly that meant.
Recently there has a been several movies with asian characters have been accused of white washing, like Ghost in the Shell featuring Scarlet Johansson, the Great Wall staring Matt Damon and Doctor Strange featuring Tilda Swinton. We're hoping Sony and Disney has learned from these previous production and won't do the same to Mulan.
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Hey guys welcome back it's Felicia and Alan. How are you doing? Nice to have you here again.
Good to be back. So today we're going to be talking about Mulan. I'm sure all of you guys
know the story of Mulan popularized by Disney. The only movie that us Chinese people have.
Oh true. So if you guys don't know the story of Mulan, first of all I don't know where you've
been this whole time. But just to sum up, Mulan was remade by Disney into the cartoon
it was first transcribed in the 6th century in the Northern Wei Dynasty. And it was actually
from a play, Shu Wei's play. And it was called the Heroine Mulan Joins the Army blah blah blah
or something like that. Very literal. Yeah very literal. Like joins our army instead of her dad
or something like that. Yeah. So you didn't know what you're getting into. Exactly. And there are
a lot of differences that obviously Disney dramatized. The pleasurable indestructible
Eddie Murphy as a talking dragon. Yeah. Was that in the original one or did they have a talking
dragon? No but you know her little dog friend? Little brother. She's like little brother.
Little brother. She actually had a little brother in the play that they made into a dog. Oh my god.
I didn't know that because I was actually saying Disney did a pretty good job because
they mainly casted Asian actors for the roles. Like we're talking about mainly Japanese Chinese
actors and Lea Salonga. In the in the cartoon right? In the cartoon yeah. And Lea Salonga I
think she did the singing. Yeah Lea Salonga sang you know in Aladdin she also sang for.
Like basically we looked at the cast and every Asian actor that was around was in this. Yeah.
There just was there weren't a lot I guess. Yeah. Yeah so The Voice of Mulan was by Ming-Na Wen.
Yeah. Who's in a lot of American TV shows. She's in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. And I remember her in ER.
Oh okay yeah cool. Well so the news that's got everyone a little angry I guess is that they
basically said that they're partnering with the Chinese company and the cast will be mainly Chinese
so the keyword there is mainly Chinese. So there's been a petition on a website called Care2 and
it's basically saying please don't whitewash Mulan Disney. And it's got 100,000 subscribers.
Please subscribe to us. It's got 100,000 signatures so far so it's a lot. All right so it's picking up.
Yeah but like the question is do you actually think Disney and Sony are gonna cast a white
actress to play Mulan? I just don't think that anyone in their right mind would cast anyone but
a Chinese as Mulan. Like it just you can't get away with anything but that I feel like because
it's so ingrained you know the story of Mulan. Exactly it's just like a classic and again with
how recent films that haven't even come out yet have been getting backlash. It's just like I don't
see any other outcome. Yeah. I think again this is just a word thing and the internet's gone a little
too crazy over it a little bit because I think when they're saying mostly Chinese they mean
maybe there's gonna be Eddie Murphy in a dragon suit. Wouldn't that be so awesome? He makes his
comeback like that. That'd be awesome. So whitewashing is basically you're having you know
Asian roles or not even Asian but just minority roles being taken by white actors and actresses.
You know some examples would be like Avatar. That was that was a pretty bad example where
the main character basically all the good guys were turned into white actors and the bad guys
were like made into Indians. The last airbender by the way. The last airbender. Not Avatar.
I'm sorry yeah. Avatar the last airbender. I always get those confused. But yeah like
movies like that there was that Aloha movie with Emma Stone. She played a half Hawaiian,
half Asian. And I don't know why they did that because there are a lot of half Asian girls that
are gorgeous. Very gorgeous. Like it could have been anyone but actually like you know the whole
whitewashing. I think there's a lot of people currently trying to step up and really like
extend our Asian-American reach like Master of None, Aziz. Like they just won an award at the
Emmy. And Ali Wong. Like these comedians they're not just telling our story to us. They're telling
our story to like everyone. You see the crowds and it's wide appeal. So like the age-old argument
it's well Asian minority actors are not bankable. But Aziz Ansari he's gaining a lot of traction.
I mean like who knows maybe it's now become the time. And it's like still staying true to
our actual story. So the other thing we have is the white savior complex. Now this is something
I learned in like film school. Like I always thought this was kind of eh because like I
understand that you know when you when you're doing a production you gotta you gotta look at
your demographics. Yes. And in America it's white people. That's just what it is. I think like 70%
The end of the day in movies, in all media, in entertainment, they come in swoop you off
your feet and save the day. That's ultimately what the white savior complex is. Yeah so we're
talking about like Tom Cruise in Last Samurai. There's The Last of the Mohicans. That's another
movie. Avatar. You know I mean but they're saving blue aliens. I don't know. It's kind of like a
white savior. It's still the same kind. Yeah but basically it's a white guy coming in to save the
day and like to be honest I don't have too much of a problem with that because I kind of grew up
with these movies and I enjoyed the stories for what they were. And actually for the longest time
I just never really thought about it. But the thing is and I'm seeing this more and more now
Asian men and women are being casted in movies as normal everyday roles. Like you take Wolf of
Wall Street. I don't know if you saw that movie. I love it. One of Leonardo DiCaprio's best friends
is like this degenerate Asian guy who's a whole lot of fun but it's like he's not there because
he's good at math. He's there because he's an Asian guy who's in the story and I think that's a
big step. I wonder if that was actually true to the actual story. It might have been but I think
I think maybe 20-30 years ago that role might not have went to an actor like that. So I think
I think we are moving in a positive direction. In the United States right now the Asian Americans
they make up I think 5.6 close to 6% of the population. Yeah it's huge. It's the fastest
growing minority. We've surpassed Hispanics so like we're a growing minority and we have some of the
highest household incomes and purchasing power. Because I mean if you think about the people that
are actually coming you know they're from they're like businessmen in China or businessmen from like
Asian regions and they're coming here to you know do business or whatever. So the medium income is
definitely higher. There's as many Asian Americans as Italian Americans and we know that Italian
Americans you know you got the Godfather series. I mean there's a lot of cool like interesting
media out there about Italians you know and like I think it's time now that we've grown into a larger
group that we're able to you know have our own shows and it is happening. I mean yeah like fresh
off the boat and you have a whole TV series. I mean there are some controversies about it a little
bit but I mean it's a whole Asian family. It is exactly. It's kind of nice I think. It gives Asian
actors work and I think that's what's important. Like I'll tell you I saw a Broadway play like last
year it's called Allegiance and they literally got every Asian stage actor like they had Japanese,
Filipino, Chinese like everyone just filling in the roles and the thing was not a lot of people
came and saw the show you know and it was kind of sad because like. So I mean that's the risk I think
that a lot of directors keep in mind. Right. That because you know if you're going to
invest so much money into making a film. Exactly. There's like a balancing point between
staying true but also making money because at the end of the day it's all about money.
It's all about money. George Takei actually he funded that personally. Okay. I mean no one was
going to pick up a show about Japanese people unfortunately. Yeah. But more and more like
again we're going on this trend like you look at box office numbers. America's still number one in
box office numbers but number two is China. Number four is Japan. Japan right and then India
and South Korea follows that. So we're seeing a shift basically towards Asia as far as who's
watching films and if you're going to be making these huge investments in films you better put
some Chinese or Asian faces in there. Yeah. Because you got to show what the audience wants and that's
it's all about at the end of the day. Yeah so kind of like leading off that there is a lot of
politics involved especially when you're trying to enter the Chinese market like the American
films. There's like a quota right? There's a quota. And they better be pro-China. Yeah they better be
pro-China. I mean there's so many scripts of well-known movies that have been altered and
changed. In Red Dawn originally the story was Chinese soldiers invading America. Obviously
not cool in China so they changed. They have to be China friendly yeah. They changed Chinese
soldiers to North Koreans in post. It looked horrible. Wasn't it in Iron Man 3? It was in
Shanghai. Tony Stark has to get like his heart fixed. Yeah and they go to these doctors. Yeah I
mean like again they're working with it. It's a little unnatural right now because it's like
tacked on afterwards. It's not like oh this is how it goes they're supposed to go to China. Now
it's more like just go to China so we can get like millions of dollars. Yeah. But I think what we're
going to see is like when Asian writers, when Asian intellectual property goes out you know
this be these big Hollywood studios and a lot of these big Chinese studios which are taking over
a lot of these Hollywood studios are going to be open to you know hiring Asian screenplays.
Yeah because a lot of Chinese companies actually own like AMC and things like that. Yeah yeah
exactly. So it's all there. I mean of course there's political ramifications about that. Yes.
You can watch China Uncensored if you want to hear about that. But we're not going into that.
All right so just kind of wrap it up. I really hope that Sony does Mulan justice. Yes Sony. Because
I don't know. It's the only Chinese Disney thing we have. You have one big opportunity.
Yeah I mean like Mulan's already been remade. Rise of the Warrior. I think it was like
2000. The Chinese version. Yes. But that's like more based off of the actual original content.
Right. It was more gritty. It definitely wasn't following the storyline. There's no like talking
dragons played by Eddie Murphy. So yeah there has been a remake. You guys should watch that. It's
got Jackie Chan's son in it. Yeah. In case this one is horrible. And he does play semi-minor role
but it is pretty good. So yeah. What do you guys think? What do you think will happen with this
whole Mulan thing? I hope they. Yeah. Who do you think should play Mulan? Who do you think should
play Mulan actually? Should it be her? Could it be me? Grow out. Anyway leave your comments and
your thoughts below. We'll comment. I mean we'll reply back. Yeah and don't forget to like and
subscribe. We're going to read all the comments. Yeah. About who you think should be Mulan. Yes.
We shall be waiting. Goodbye for now. What does live action even mean? It means people. It's not
going to be like. It's going to be a dude in a dragon suit. It's going to be Eddie Murphy in a
dragon suit. Dude that would be amazing. That would be his epic comeback. It would be like Chinese
New Year in those. Hey man. Dragon. Mulan.